Thanks Biden, the Terrorists are beheading our allies again.

[struth]

Except you actually know nothing about those you defame, and it is the US that commits most of the crimes.
Beheading is to avoid pain because it is quick.
It is the US that bombs and terrorizes almost always.
The Taliban do not rape.

Of all the war crimes of the last century, the US is by far the greatest criminal.
For example, massacring millions of Moros in the Philippines after they helped us against the Spanish, and we reneged on our promise to get them independence, (1911 Philippine Rebellion).
They only had machetes and we had Maxim machine guns.
But they were in the right, and we were evil imperialists.
Do I need to list all the foreign atrocities we committed again?
Clearly not a one was self defense.

sure i do. The Taliban’s oppression is well documented, their aid and comfort to AQ is well documented. AQ and ISIS terror is well documented.

 

[Rigby5]

I heard once that the real reason we are fighting with the Arabs is they wont Buy into our way of banking. Debt, interest, credit card,

Probably true.
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The concept of charging interest – known as Riba in Islam – is against the religion's principle of ‘fair distribution’ because it increases inequality. When interest is charged, the lender ends up with more and the borrower with less than they both started with – the rich become richer while the poor become poorer.
...}

 

[struth]

Bombs from the air, are the greatest terrorist weapon of all.

not really…they can be, but i think a suicide bomb is a greater terrorist weapon.

 

[struth]

Cutting off heads is a millions times less painful than the electrocutions or suffocations the US uses routinely.

oh the taliban does a lot of torture well before a beheading.

the women get tortured then stoned to death…

but these are the animals you praise and love…

 

[Rigby5]

sure i do. The Taliban’s impression is well documented, their aid and comfort to AQ is well documented. AQ and ISIS terror is well documented.

Totally and completely wrong.
The Taliban always disliked the Arab foreign legion but it was the CIA who force them to accept the Saudis into to the Mujahedeen.
Al Qaeda committed no crimes in Afghanistan, so the Taliban could not do anything about them.
And ISIS was a bunch of Iraqi Sunni the US let out of prison all at once in Iraq, near Syria.
It was the US who created ISIS entirely, and they had nothing to do with Afghanistan at all.

 

[Rigby5]

not really…they can be, but i think a suicide bomb is a greater terrorist weapon.

Wrong.
A suicide bomb requires truth belief and dedication, so can't easily be abused and it almost always then ethical out of dedication.
The US risks nothing when it uses a drone to launch a Hellfire missile on civilians, so requires no moral beliefs at all.
In fact, it requires a lack of moral beliefs of any kind.

From a practical perspective, you can always search people, look for packages, etc. so suicide bombing can be prevented.
There is absolutely no way to prevent a drone strike, and it is almost always totally unethical because it can't pick targets nearly as carefully.

When the perpetrator faces risk, it automatically precludes lots immoral motivations, like greed.

 

[Rigby5]

oh the taliban does a lot of torture well before a beheading.

the women get tortured then stoned to death…

but these are the animals you praise and love…

Wrong.
Taliban never torture.
Only the US does that.
Taliban have never stoned any woman.
Stoning is PROHIBITED in the Quran.
Stoning is done by ignorant tribal people, like in Saudi Arabia, but not by Quran scholars like the Taliban.

 

[surada]

The US did not start the problems, such as with Syria, the Sunni/Shia conflict, the Ottoman occupation, the Sykes-Piccard division of spoils, etc., but US was obviously funding and arming the rebels, who were not good for Syria.
Why else would we have a US CIA annex in Benghazi, with pallets of weapons and money?
Ambassador Stevens had no reason to be in Benghazi except to arm and bribe Syrian rebels.

The Benghazi rebels were not the right people to topple Qaddafi if that were our goal.
But they were the right people to fight Assad.

The ambassador was in Benghazi overnight to dedicate a joint venture emergency response system at Benghazi hospital the next morning.. a joint venture between Benghazi hospital and Mass General.

The CIA annex was a listening operation to try and identify Eastern tribes that would support a return of the Idris Constitution. You might read it. No money or weapons.

Syria was in freefall from 2005 because of drought, the collapse of agriculture and their small oil industry.

 

[surada]

Wrong.
Taliban never torture.
Only the US does that.
Taliban have never stoned any woman.
Stoning is PROHIBITED in the Quran.
Stoning is done by ignorant tribal people, like in Saudi Arabia, but not by Quran scholars like the Taliban.

There is NO stoning in KSA, not even in the most backward, rural areas.

 

[surada]

A good one. Best joke of the year up to now - and it is September. An usual interpretation of the Quran is it that Christians who believe in the triune god - or with other words: all Christians - are defined not as monotheists but as polytheists in the book which made Caliph Osman. And atheists and polytheists have to be murdered. Osman - the author of the Quran - had imprisoned by the way also an important wife from Mohammed, because she said what he said Mohammed never had said.

And if you don't remember: A sword is the symbol of the [political] Islam, because you convert other nations with military power.



The value system of the political Islam is very simple: If Jews would destroy a 200 years old mosque anywhere then everywhere in the world of the Muslims would be riots and terror waves would swap over the whole world. But when the Wahabi in Saudi Arabia - the worst destroyers of buildings of the history of the Muslims in Mekka - do the same or more worse things in Mekka - the most holy place for all Muslims - then no one notices anything about.

You're stupid.. Mecca hosts a million or more pilgrims a year and facilities to provide for food, shelter, transportation and healthcare are essential to their well being.

 

[Rigby5]

The ambassador was in Benghazi overnight to dedicate a joint venture emergency response system at Benghazi hospital the next morning.. a joint venture between Benghazi hospital and Mass General.

The CIA annex was a listening operation to try and identify Eastern tribes that would support a return of the Idris Constitution. You might read it. No money or weapons.

Syria was in freefall from 2005 because of drought, the collapse of agriculture and their small oil industry.

An ambassador is a political figure who would be totally out of place for a hospital dedication.
That obviously was just a cover.

Listening post are done in secret and do not need or want troops.
You use troops only when you have valuables and are divulging your location to those who are suspect.

Sure there were lots of causes for the start of the revolt in Syria, but clearly the rebels were getting money and weapons.
If not the US, then the only other player is Israel.
But both would need a neutral geography like Benghazi.

 

[Rigby5]

There is NO stoning in KSA, not even in the most backward, rural areas.

I have to admit personal ignorance, but the media gives me the impression there is some?
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Saudi Arabia​

Further information: Capital punishment in Saudi Arabia
Legal stoning sentences have been reported in Saudi Arabia.[103][104] There were four cases of execution by stoning reported between 1981 and 1992.[105]
...}

Stoning - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[surada]

An ambassador is a political figure who would be totally out of place for a hospital dedication.
That obviously was just a cover.

Listening post are done in secret and do not need or want troops.
You use troops only when you have valuables and are divulging your location to those who are suspect.

Sure there were lots of causes for the start of the revolt in Syria, but clearly the rebels were getting money and weapons.
If not the US, then the only other player is Israel.
But both would need a neutral geography like Benghazi.

Don't be stupid. Ambassadors do that kind of thing all the time... or maybe you didn't know Mass General is in Boston.

Just quit while you're ahead. You don't know anything about Libya or Gaddafi or Benghazi.

It wasn't about weapons. Libya was awash in weapons. Gaddafi had been on two billion dollar shopping sprees in the 2 years prior.

 

[surada]

I have to admit personal ignorance, but the media gives me the impression there is some?
{...

Saudi Arabia​

Further information: Capital punishment in Saudi Arabia
Legal stoning sentences have been reported in Saudi Arabia.[103][104] There were four cases of execution by stoning reported between 1981 and 1992.[105]
...}

Stoning - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Its an ignorant lie. There is NO stoning in Saudi Arabia. Most jackasses who write about Arabia know nothing about the country.

 

[Captain Caveman]

That's a public call for mass-murder - or with other words: a crime.

And when they kill you, would you consider that a crime? You need to start thinking a bit more.

 

[surada]

You also don’t check out these news sites.
Muslims don’t need non-Muslims as an excuse to murder each other.

Most of the Arab world is quite safe.. moreso than in the US.

 

[Rigby5]

A good one. Best joke of the year up to now - and it is September. An usual interpretation of the Quran is it that Christians who believe in the triune god - or with other words: all Christians - are defined not as monotheists but as polytheists in the book which made Caliph Osman. And atheists and polytheists have to be murdered. Osman - the author of the Quran - had imprisoned by the way also an important wife from Mohammed, because she said what he said Mohammed never had said.

And if you don't remember: A sword is the symbol of the [political] Islam, because you convert other nations with military power.



The value system of the political Islam is very simple: If Jews would destroy a 200 years old mosque anywhere then everywhere in the world of the Muslims would be riots and terror waves would swap over the whole world. But when the Wahabi in Saudi Arabia - the worst destroyers of buildings of the history of the Muslims in Mekka - do the same or more worse things in Mekka - the most holy place for all Muslims - then no one notices anything about.

I do not get your point.
Most Christians do not believe in a triune, only Catholics do, and Christians do not believe the son of God is a god.
Believing in the Holy Ghost is not a belief in multiple gods because anyone who believes in heaven or hell, believes we all have immortal souls.
Immortal souls are not gods.

The sword is a symbol of defense, not conquest.

The Saudis are tribal and are not good Moslems.
Islam got divided by the Mongol Conquest around 1200, so it interpreted by many different tribal factions.
It is not unified under a single leadership.

 

[Indeependent]

Most of the Arab world is quite safe.. moreso than in the US.

No wonder Muslims are protesting their governments.

 

[surada]

No wonder Muslims are protesting their governments.

Some are. Most aren't. What's your issue?

 

[surada]

I do not get your point.
Most Christians do not believe in a triune, only Catholics do, and Christians do not believe the son of God is a god.
Believing in the Holy Ghost is not a belief in multiple gods because anyone who believes in heaven or hell, believes we all have immortal souls.
Immortal souls are not gods.

The sword is a symbol of defense, not conquest.

The Saudis are tribal and are not good Moslems.
Islam got divided by the Mongol Conquest around 1200, so it interpreted by many different tribal factions.
It is not unified under a single leadership.

God, you are full of shit.