Rigby5
Diamond Member
Really? The Republicans who had a majority in both houses looked to Clinton and Kerry? Again, most Democrats voted against the war. Also Clinton and Kerry did not execute the early parts of the war. Basically not taking care of Afghanistan early on because we had a new shiny toy in Iraq and then they weren't SOS when we clearly fucked that up from the get go.
Getting out of Iraq happened while Obama was the president. Not Bush. We got out of Afghanistan under Biden, Not Bush, Obama or Trump. That means Democrats ended both wars.
What did we need OBL alive for?
Without the Hillary and Kerry speeches, the joint resolution likely would have failed.
Iraq told Obama to get out, Obama did not get out, and he kept troops there against the wishes of Iraq.
One can not really say Biden got out of Afghanistan, but that he just totally screwed it up.
Getting out would have been to arrange a coalition new government.
Just leaving a mess unfinished accomplishes nothing.
We needed Osama live to tell what really happened?
I doubt OBL was the leader.
KSM was the organizer.
But the FBI and CIA are both implicated.
I also doubt OBL is dead even.