The 1st and 2nd amendments had the same purpose

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What does that have to do with an armed insurrection?

Are you of the Soros army planning an armed insurrection?

Given that you serve a foreign power, isn't what you are doing actually an invasion?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Failure to follow a lawful order is a court martiable offense

Putting down an armed insurrection is a lawful order

Oh? who gave that order? Your Fuhrer, George Soros?

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Why are gun nuts shooting at our soldiers?

Why are democrats raping children in the streets?

Are you defending those who will take up arms against the American Flag?

Are you defending the wholesale abuse of children?

 

[rightwinger]

Failure to follow a lawful order is a court martiable offense

Putting down an armed insurrection is a lawful order

Oh? who gave that order? Your Fuhrer, George Soros?

Our soldiers would have no issues protecting us from the Tim McVeighs and Cliven Bundys of the world

 

[WhyPluto]

The 1st and 2nd amendments had the same purpose: protections against a tyrannical government.
Donald Trump is trying to take away the 1st amendment.
Most Trump supporters are sticklers on the 2nd amendment.
If you are a true believer in the constitution you should protect the 1st amendment as much as the 2nd amendment.

In today's world the 1st amendment is a realistic tool against a tyrannical government.
I do not feel owning all the guns in the world will protect you from an oppressive government today. Our government has many more weapons than guns.

You forget the military is filled with the rank and file of the general population. Far more of them would not attack their fellow citizens than robots who mindlessly follow orders.

 

[rightwinger]

The 1st and 2nd amendments had the same purpose: protections against a tyrannical government.
Donald Trump is trying to take away the 1st amendment.
Most Trump supporters are sticklers on the 2nd amendment.
If you are a true believer in the constitution you should protect the 1st amendment as much as the 2nd amendment.

In today's world the 1st amendment is a realistic tool against a tyrannical government.
I do not feel owning all the guns in the world will protect you from an oppressive government today. Our government has many more weapons than guns.

You forget the military is filled with the rank and file of the general population. Far more of them would not attack their fellow citizens than robots who mindlessly follow orders.

We are talking about armed citizens attacking their own country
What makes you think our police and armed forces will not protect us?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

You sound, well, brain washed. Reduce your consumption of radical left talking points immediately.

Please explain the flaw in my argument.

You have made no argument.

Do you think the 1st amendment is as important as the 2nd amendment. I am sure your answer is yes.
Trump is trying undermine the freedom of the press.

Pretty simple.

It's the FIRST amendment in the Bill of rights.....the founders chose it to be even .MORE important than the second......it's why they chose it to be first.

Indeed, and they chose the 2nd to defend it.

 

[rightwinger]

Truth is...We have NEVER needed our second amendment to defend our rights or freedoms or to keep government in check

We DO need our first amendment to defend us and keep government in check

 

[Doc1]

A free press, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and a right to vote have kept government in check for over 200 years. We have never needed a second amendment to keep the government in check

The second amendment is no longer needed. We have the most powerful military in history. We no longer need "Well Regulated Militias"
Civilians using arms against a tyrannical government may have been an option in 1776 but it is no longer an option today

The right to bear arms should be relegated to individual states as they see fit

Call a Convention and try to get it removed.

 

[rightwinger]

A free press, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and a right to vote have kept government in check for over 200 years. We have never needed a second amendment to keep the government in check

The second amendment is no longer needed. We have the most powerful military in history. We no longer need "Well Regulated Militias"
Civilians using arms against a tyrannical government may have been an option in 1776 but it is no longer an option today

The right to bear arms should be relegated to individual states as they see fit

Without the second admendment any sort of freedom is dead...

The Second Amendment has never been used to defend our freedom

Free press, Freedom of Assembly and the right to vote has protected our freedom for over 200 years

The very makeup of the federal government now is opposite of what the founders envisioned....

The founders did not envision a lot of things

Our government is in full compliance with the Constitution

The federal government wants to destroy the constitution… The country and federal government are not one in the same

We the People of the United States created the federal government in something we like to call The Constitution

They are us

 

[martybegan]

The 1st and 2nd amendments had the same purpose: protections against a tyrannical government.
Donald Trump is trying to take away the 1st amendment.
Most Trump supporters are sticklers on the 2nd amendment.
If you are a true believer in the constitution you should protect the 1st amendment as much as the 2nd amendment.

In today's world the 1st amendment is a realistic tool against a tyrannical government.
I do not feel owning all the guns in the world will protect you from an oppressive government today. Our government has many more weapons than guns.

how is he trying to take away the 1st amendment? Has he silenced any reporter from saying whatever they want to the people via their media? He spent a whole hour taking questions from them during his press conference.

Telling someone what they don't want to hear or can't comprehend is not squashing 1st amendment rights.

The progressive left, on the other hand, is far more selective about what 1st amendment rights they choose to support:

Florist discriminated against same-sex couple - CNN.com

In addition to first amendment protections, Stutzman argued that no real harm came from her refusal because other florists were available and willing to serve the couple.
The judges rejected both claims. They sided with Ingersoll and Freed's argument that their case was about more than access to flowers, just as civil rights cases of the 1960s were about more than access to sandwiches.

Trump is not trying to take away the first amendment....he is trying to delegitimize it with the American public
Don't trust what the press is saying about me.....Fake news, fake news, fake news
The press hates me....that is why you hear bad things about me

A free press is the biggest challenge to Trumps agenda. Get the American public to not trust what is being said is the easiest way for Trump to do what he wants without media oversight

The actions of most of the press, and their blatant partisanship is to blame for it, not Trump. People have been saying this for the past two decades, or longer. All Trump did was show it to the less politically astute people out there.

The press mostly DOES hate him, at least the ones that are merely Democrats with bylines.

A free, independent press is actually the greatest threat to progressives, who have shown recently they cannot deal with opinions outside of their comfort zone. Some classic liberals, like Maher understand this (even if he is a fucking asshole, he's a principled asshole), but the rest of the progressive umbrella is all about suppression of speech and ideas they disagree with.

We are talking the ENTIRE Press Corps that Trump is calling fake
If you feel a story is fake, then provide REAL FACTS proving a story is fake. That is the way it works. Simply chanting Fake News, Fake News, Fake News ...does not make it so
It has gotten so bad that Trumps is only calling on the Christian News Service and Breitbart as trusted news services

The Press is asking questions for the American people. That is what the first amendment intended
Trump ignoring the media he does not like is not the solution

Even Fox News has turned against Trump

Another empty statement.

 

[rightwinger]

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Citizens militias could not even win the Revolutionary war

Against today's army they would be obliterated

Oh, and you think the army will stand with you treasonous fucks?

We are not the ones planning an armed takeover of the government

 

[martybegan]

how is he trying to take away the 1st amendment? Has he silenced any reporter from saying whatever they want to the people via their media? He spent a whole hour taking questions from them during his press conference.

Telling someone what they don't want to hear or can't comprehend is not squashing 1st amendment rights.

The progressive left, on the other hand, is far more selective about what 1st amendment rights they choose to support:

Florist discriminated against same-sex couple - CNN.com

Trump is not trying to take away the first amendment....he is trying to delegitimize it with the American public
Don't trust what the press is saying about me.....Fake news, fake news, fake news
The press hates me....that is why you hear bad things about me

A free press is the biggest challenge to Trumps agenda. Get the American public to not trust what is being said is the easiest way for Trump to do what he wants without media oversight

What the Left considers a free press is the public relations firms that CNN, MSNBC and Democrat Underground were for President obama. Sorry, guy, but the Left lost and you're bitching because President Trump is treating CNN like obama did FOX News early in his administration.

GET OVER IT.

We have a freeer press than at any time in our history

Trumps enemy list gets longer by the day. Blocking out questions does not make them go away. The press has a job to do. Trump sneering.....
You better be nice to me
Is not a solution

A hyper-partisan press is a free press. Your statement is nothing but fluff. What we don't have is an impartial press, despite the exhortations of the progressive leaning media.

And he did answer questions, you just didn't like the answers.

We have a more open press than any time in history. I have access to hundreds of press reports at my finger tips. Some may be partisan one way or the other but most will be somewhere in the middle. Trump is at war with any press that is not far right

Almost all of it is partisan, the issue is some of them either don't realize they are, or do realize, and outright lie about it.

And as for the "rest are in the middle"....

 

[martybegan]

Trump is not trying to take away the first amendment....he is trying to delegitimize it with the American public
Don't trust what the press is saying about me.....Fake news, fake news, fake news
The press hates me....that is why you hear bad things about me

A free press is the biggest challenge to Trumps agenda. Get the American public to not trust what is being said is the easiest way for Trump to do what he wants without media oversight

What the Left considers a free press is the public relations firms that CNN, MSNBC and Democrat Underground were for President obama. Sorry, guy, but the Left lost and you're bitching because President Trump is treating CNN like obama did FOX News early in his administration.

GET OVER IT.

We have a freeer press than at any time in our history

Trumps enemy list gets longer by the day. Blocking out questions does not make them go away. The press has a job to do. Trump sneering.....
You better be nice to me
Is not a solution

A hyper-partisan press is a free press. Your statement is nothing but fluff. What we don't have is an impartial press, despite the exhortations of the progressive leaning media.

And he did answer questions, you just didn't like the answers.

We have a more open press than any time in history. I have access to hundreds of press reports at my finger tips. Some may be partisan one way or the other but most will be somewhere in the middle. Trump is at war with any press that is not far right

Anyone who disagrees with the trumpster is in danger

Unlike the people trying to attend Milo's speech at Berkeley, who were only exposed with pixie dust and unicorn farts.

 

[martybegan]

A free press, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and a right to vote have kept government in check for over 200 years. We have never needed a second amendment to keep the government in check

The second amendment is no longer needed. We have the most powerful military in history. We no longer need "Well Regulated Militias"
Civilians using arms against a tyrannical government may have been an option in 1776 but it is no longer an option today

The right to bear arms should be relegated to individual states as they see fit

The 2nd amendment is about everyone's inherent right to self protection. When the cops give up their guns, I'll consider giving up my right to one as well.

And good luck getting it appealed, until then go pound sand.

 

[martybegan]

The 1st and 2nd amendments had the same purpose: protections against a tyrannical government.
Donald Trump is trying to take away the 1st amendment.
Most Trump supporters are sticklers on the 2nd amendment.
If you are a true believer in the constitution you should protect the 1st amendment as much as the 2nd amendment.

In today's world the 1st amendment is a realistic tool against a tyrannical government.
I do not feel owning all the guns in the world will protect you from an oppressive government today. Our government has many more weapons than guns.

how is he trying to take away the 1st amendment? Has he silenced any reporter from saying whatever they want to the people via their media? He spent a whole hour taking questions from them during his press conference.

Telling someone what they don't want to hear or can't comprehend is not squashing 1st amendment rights.

The progressive left, on the other hand, is far more selective about what 1st amendment rights they choose to support:

Florist discriminated against same-sex couple - CNN.com

In addition to first amendment protections, Stutzman argued that no real harm came from her refusal because other florists were available and willing to serve the couple.
The judges rejected both claims. They sided with Ingersoll and Freed's argument that their case was about more than access to flowers, just as civil rights cases of the 1960s were about more than access to sandwiches.

Trump is not trying to take away the first amendment....he is trying to delegitimize it with the American public
Don't trust what the press is saying about me.....Fake news, fake news, fake news
The press hates me....that is why you hear bad things about me

A free press is the biggest challenge to Trumps agenda. Get the American public to not trust what is being said is the easiest way for Trump to do what he wants without media oversight

A press linked to the Democratic Party ala "The Human Centipede" cannot be defined as "free press" even in your wildest of delusions.

I disagree. It is still a free press and an independent press. What it isn't is a NEUTRAL press, despite it's claims to the contrary. It's free of the government and independent of it, but it is 100% committed to one side of the political argument.

I don't agree. The Carlos Slim NY Times is far from independent. It is owned by, and operated on behalf of the international socialist cabal.

The MS in MSNBC stands for Microsoft; just how independent are these radical left loons?

Connected to companies? Sure. Connected to political parties? definitely, but not directly connected to the government. That is the mark of the independent press.

However, just because it is independent, does not mean in any way that it is impartial.

 

[martybegan]

A free press, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and a right to vote have kept government in check for over 200 years. We have never needed a second amendment to keep the government in check

The second amendment is no longer needed. We have the most powerful military in history. We no longer need "Well Regulated Militias"
Civilians using arms against a tyrannical government may have been an option in 1776 but it is no longer an option today

The right to bear arms should be relegated to individual states as they see fit

Without the second admendment any sort of freedom is dead...

The Second Amendment has never been used to defend our freedom

Free press, Freedom of Assembly and the right to vote has protected our freedom for over 200 years

Moron..without the 2nd Amendment those Rights are just temporary until the Government sends in the troops.....

Show an example where the second amendment was ever necessary to defend our rights or freedoms

I can provide examples of the first amendment doing it

Every day, when someone defends themselves using their right of self protection when being robbed, or mugged, or attacked.

 

[Votto]

You sound, well, brain washed. Reduce your consumption of radical left talking points immediately.

Please explain the flaw in my argument.

You have made no argument.

Do you think the 1st amendment is as important as the 2nd amendment. I am sure your answer is yes.
Trump is trying undermine the freedom of the press.

Pretty simple.

Wait....wut?

Trump is undermining freedom of speech by suggesting that the press is not truthful at times?

How does that work spanky?

The press undermines the President 24/7 by saying he is crazy, not qualified, etc. However, Trump should not be free to speak out against them?

Methinks you are the one who hates freedom of speech.

 

[martybegan]

A free press, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and a right to vote have kept government in check for over 200 years. We have never needed a second amendment to keep the government in check

The second amendment is no longer needed. We have the most powerful military in history. We no longer need "Well Regulated Militias"
Civilians using arms against a tyrannical government may have been an option in 1776 but it is no longer an option today

The right to bear arms should be relegated to individual states as they see fit

Without the second admendment any sort of freedom is dead...

The Second Amendment has never been used to defend our freedom

Free press, Freedom of Assembly and the right to vote has protected our freedom for over 200 years

The very makeup of the federal government now is opposite of what the founders envisioned....

The founders did not envision a lot of things

Our government is in full compliance with the Constitution

When interpreted by callous asshats such as yourself, yes. But you living document nimrods are 100% wrong.

 

[Doc1]

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Citizens militias could not even win the Revolutionary war

Against today's army they would be obliterated

Oh, and you think the army will stand with you treasonous fucks?

We are not the ones planning an armed takeover of the government

Tell us kid, who is?