The Belief That Life Was the Result of an Accident Is Unscientific

[miketx]

The people who believe we are an accident believe that a tornado can blow through a wrecking yard and leave a fully functional 747 in its wake.

People who write statements like this really don't understand what they are talking about. No one has ever said we are an accident.

Sure they have.

 

[Weatherman2020]

No one has ever said we are an accident.

Hilarious and outlandish lie. Every child is forced to learn that BS is public school.

Then you should have no problem providing a link to a textbook or a school district's curriculum.

Dufus needs proof the Big Bang theory is taught in schools.

 

[alang1216]

The people who believe we are an accident believe that a tornado can blow through a wrecking yard and leave a fully functional 747 in its wake.

People who write statements like this really don't understand what they are talking about. No one has ever said we are an accident.

Sure they have.

Not a very convincing argument as such. Can you supply a link?

 

[alang1216]

No one has ever said we are an accident.

Hilarious and outlandish lie. Every child is forced to learn that BS is public school.

Then you should have no problem providing a link to a textbook or a school district's curriculum.

Dufus needs proof the Big Bang theory is taught in schools.

The big bang was an accident? News to me, I never heard that, can you provide a link?

 

[miketx]

The people who believe we are an accident believe that a tornado can blow through a wrecking yard and leave a fully functional 747 in its wake.

People who write statements like this really don't understand what they are talking about. No one has ever said we are an accident.

Sure they have.

Not a very convincing argument as such. Can you supply a link?

Why? You'll just deny it like libs always do.

 

[PoliticalChic]

a. For reference, Genesis 1, verses 1-4: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Did God create heaven and earth before the light (big bang)?

Isn't that clear from what you just quoted?

Have someone with a greater acuity than you have, explain that to you.

Any third grader will do.

 

[alang1216]

The people who believe we are an accident believe that a tornado can blow through a wrecking yard and leave a fully functional 747 in its wake.

People who write statements like this really don't understand what they are talking about. No one has ever said we are an accident.

Sure they have.

Not a very convincing argument as such. Can you supply a link?

Why? You'll just deny it like libs always do.

Not a very convincing rational. You'd almost think you don't have any source except your butt.

I have plenty of evidence that you're wrong, I'm just not going to tell you what it is. So there.

 

[alang1216]

a. For reference, Genesis 1, verses 1-4: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Did God create heaven and earth before the light (big bang)?

Isn't that clear from what you just quoted?

Have someone with a greater acuity than you have, explain that to you.

Any third grader will do.

I'm hoping you will explain. If God created the light on the first day and the sun on the 4th day, what was the source of the light?

 

[Weatherman2020]

This all humans are. Why does it stare at sunsets?

 

[Weatherman2020]

a. For reference, Genesis 1, verses 1-4: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Did God create heaven and earth before the light (big bang)?

Isn't that clear from what you just quoted?

Have someone with a greater acuity than you have, explain that to you.

Any third grader will do.

I'm hoping you will explain. If God created the light on the first day and the sun on the 4th day, what was the source of the light?

Stars, dufus.
And since you likely never go far from your 400 sq ft apartment, you can read by starlight.

 

[Weatherman2020]

No one has ever said we are an accident.

Hilarious and outlandish lie. Every child is forced to learn that BS is public school.

Then you should have no problem providing a link to a textbook or a school district's curriculum.

Dufus needs proof the Big Bang theory is taught in schools.

The big bang was an accident? News to me, I never heard that, can you provide a link?

The big bang was an accident? News to me, I never heard that, can you provide a link?

Ah, so dufus is trying to play both games and claim the universe was created by design while denying a creator exists.
Total moron.

 

[alang1216]

If God created the light on the first day and the sun on the 4th day, what was the source of the light?

Stars, dufus.
And since you likely never go far from your 400 sq ft apartment, you can read by starlight.

You mean the stars that were created on the 4th day?

 

[alang1216]

The big bang was an accident? News to me, I never heard that, can you provide a link?

Ah, so dufus is trying to play both games and claim the universe was created by design while denying a creator exists.
Total moron.

Accident is not the word I'd use but it has a wide variety of definitions. So how are crystals created, accident or design?

 

[Weatherman2020]

The big bang was an accident? News to me, I never heard that, can you provide a link?

Ah, so dufus is trying to play both games and claim the universe was created by design while denying a creator exists.
Total moron.

Accident is not the word I'd use but it has a wide variety of definitions. So how are crystals created, accident or design?

Design, dufus.
Only an unscientific denier can attempt to claim you are an accidental byproduct of an explosion.

 

[PoliticalChic]

a. For reference, Genesis 1, verses 1-4: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Did God create heaven and earth before the light (big bang)?

Isn't that clear from what you just quoted?

Have someone with a greater acuity than you have, explain that to you.

Any third grader will do.

I'm hoping you will explain. If God created the light on the first day and the sun on the 4th day, what was the source of the light?

1. Probably anyone writing a creation account should have begun with the idea of the formation of the sun and the planets….shouldn’t they? Without the sun…how could Genesis refer to the ‘days’ of creation? So…“Let there be light” doesn’t really entail much….does it? It makes intuitive sense.
   1. Even the pagan world figured this out: most tended to worship the sun as the source of all life. But Genesis doesn’t speak of the sun…..only of light, until verses 14-19.
2. Big Bang…explosion….energy….light. But no atoms to form the sun for some time. Light…but no sun? So says science. And so says Genesis. Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” chapter two.
3. There are numerous chemical reaction that produce light...
   Exothermic chemical reactions also occur in living things. Some of these reactions release energy as heat, and others release energy as light. Fireflies light up due to areaction that takes place between oxygen and a chemical called luciferin. This is a type of exothermic reaction.
   Exothermic Reactions - ClassZone
   www.classzone.com/vpg_ebooks/ml_sci_gr8/accessibility/ml_sci.../page_290.pdf

4. Beyond that, your understanding of the idea, the meaning of "God" suffers from shortsightedness.
The concept entails the ability to do anything....including separating 'the sun' and 'light.'

 

[Weatherman2020]

a. For reference, Genesis 1, verses 1-4: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Did God create heaven and earth before the light (big bang)?

Isn't that clear from what you just quoted?

Have someone with a greater acuity than you have, explain that to you.

Any third grader will do.

I'm hoping you will explain. If God created the light on the first day and the sun on the 4th day, what was the source of the light?

1. Probably anyone writing a creation account should have begun with the idea of the formation of the sun and the planets….shouldn’t they? Without the sun…how could Genesis refer to the ‘days’ of creation? So…“Let there be light” doesn’t really entail much….does it? It makes intuitive sense.
   1. Even the pagan world figured this out: most tended to worship the sun as the source of all life. But Genesis doesn’t speak of the sun…..only of light, until verses 14-19.
2. Big Bang…explosion….energy….light. But no atoms to form the sun for some time. Light…but no sun? So says science. And so says Genesis. Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” chapter two.

3. Beyond that, your understanding of the idea, the meaning of "God" suffers from shortsightedness.
The concept entails the ability to do anything....including separating 'the sun' and 'light.'

Plenty of light from the stars. Lots and lots and lots......

 

[alang1216]

Only an unscientific denier can attempt to claim you are an accidental byproduct of an explosion.

Science can provide theories that use natural laws that could reasonably lead from the big bang to poetry.

Creationists can provide no mechanisms for anything: how did God create the heavens and earth? Everything they say about their creator comes from their creator. He says he is timeless, he says he is omniscient, he says he created everything. Yet he has never offered any proof of his existence or capabilities. And you have the gall to call me unscientific. Sorry, I'm not convinced.

 

[alang1216]

4. Beyond that, your understanding of the idea, the meaning of "God" suffers from shortsightedness.
The concept entails the ability to do anything....including separating 'the sun' and 'light.'

Please don't hurt yourself doing the contortions needed to read Genesis literally.

My idea of "God" is based on the same knowledge as yours. You just accept as fact the fantastic power attributed to "God" whereas I demand some kind of evidence. Maybe God is lying or just ignorant? Maybe there are other, even more powerful gods that our God is unaware of or doesn't believe in? Maybe our God is evil but tells us he is the definition of good. Plenty of evil things have been done in his name.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sure, light and the day and night cycle formed on day one and vegetation formed on day three BEFORE the sun was formed on day four.

So glad you'd slithered in for the education you so sorely require.....and not a minute too soon!

Let's go over the events:

1. God’s first command in Genesis is “Let there be light.” Nor is this the only introduction of light in the Genesis creation account, but it is the first, it represents the beginning of the formation of our solar system. And that was ‘The Big Bang’…some 13,700 million years ago. Quite an event…it lasted just 10 to the minus 35th seconds, beginning the universe, generating time and space, as well as all the matter and energy that the universe would ever, ever, contain! Big Bang…explosion….energy….light. But no atoms to form the sun for some time. Light…but no sun? So says science. And so says Genesis. Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” chapter two.

a. For reference, Genesis 1, verses 1-4: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Your own quote continues showing day and night without the sun, “And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.”

So you continue to ignore the astounding similarity between the modern version of evolution and the Biblical recounting of same?

I've got the new symbol for your party right here:

There is no Biblical recounting of evolution. the Bible was written by barely literate people who were writing down the legends handed down by even less literate goat herders. they didn't even know the freaking Earth was round. Give me a break.

Wrong, you dunce.


1. God’s first command in Genesis is “Let there be light.” Nor is this the only introduction of light in the Genesis creation account, but it is the first, it represents the beginning of the formation of our solar system. And that was ‘The Big Bang’…some 13,700 million years ago. Quite an event…it lasted just 10 to the minus 35th seconds, beginning the universe, generating time and space, as well as all the matter and energy that the universe would ever, ever, contain! Big Bang…explosion….energy….light. But no atoms to form the sun for some time. Light…but no sun? So says science. And so says Genesis. Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” chapter two.

a. For reference, Genesis 1, verses 1-4: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.



2. Modern science has largely revealed the earth’s history with respect to the land and the seas. Coincidently, the first chapter of the Bible relates a formation, a creation narrative, strangely similar to scientific understanding.


a. Genesis 1: 6-10…”And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dryland appear: and it was so. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.


b. “The formation of the sea as well as the land is chosen as the second stage in the creation on the Bible’s first page. Modern science reveals that land and sea certainly were in place before the next stage in the scientific account of the history of the universe.” Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” p.54. What a coincidence….or confluence.


Curious, the author of Genesis lived in a landlocked region; and Moses wandered in the desert, not along the coast. Yet…sea and land appear in this prominent position in Genesis. Must be a coincidence….



3. The opening page of Genesis asserts that plant life appeared after the seas were formed, and names specifically, grass, herbs and fruit trees. According to the author of Genesis, this is the stage where life actually begins: this is the first mention life of any kind. Plant life. Yet, the simple forms of life that are considered plant life were not discovered until a couple of millennia after Genesis was completed. So…how come Genesis mentions grass, herbs, and fruit trees at precisely this moment on the creation narrative? Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” chapter four.


a. Genesis 1: 11-12 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.


b. “ From about 400 million years back to 600 million years, all kinds of complex multicellular life would have been confined to the waters of the earth….Our world's ecosystems depend upon photosynthesis to construct the fuel that all life runs on; in an ancient world with conditions similar to today's, you would need plants (as organisms that can make complex "fuel" molecules using simple building blocks and energy available from the environment, plants are known as one type of autotrophs, or "self-feeders") to evolve first, or there would be no bottom link to the food chain.” Biology of Animals & Plants - Origins & History of Life on Earth



4. Track the events in the creation account of Genesis and it’s amazing how closely the events conform to the current view of modern science. An explosion- the universe – oceans/land - plants- …And next, in verse 20, we find: And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.


Kind of unusual…since the author of Genesis, and, if we are to believe that the first one to speak those words, Moses, didn’t really live in a habitat that one might call ‘sea side.’


Would have been understandable if this space in the Bible had, instead, have focused on the numbers of land mammals, birds, or insects found in ancient Israel, wouldn’t it? But, instead, marine organisms are specifically named: ‘Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life,…’


Wouldn’t it be interesting if science find lots and lots of marine organisms extant at this point? Imagine if Genesis actually parallels the history of life on earth as expounded by science. Be a heck of a coincidence.

a. A truly important development took place some 521 million years ago, in the geological period known as the Cambrian. “The most abundant and diverse animals of Cambrian time were the trilobites. Trilobites had long antennae, compound eyes, many jointed legs, and a hard exoskeleton like many of their modern arthropod relatives, such as lobsters, crabs, and insects. The Cambrian is sometimes called the "Age of Trilobites"…” Redirect


b. No earlier fossils were found during Darwin’s lifetime: “If the theory [evolution] be true it is indisputable that before the lowest Cambrian stratum was deposited ... the world swarmed with living creatures. [Yet] to the question why we do not find rich fossiliferous deposits belonging to these earliest periods. . . I can give no satisfactory answer. The case at present must remain inexplicable.” http://www.paleosoc.org/Oldest_Fossil.pdf

....life at this stage, about 500 million years ago, was entirely marine.

How could the Genesis writer have gotten this right?

That writer…he’s landlocked, knows little of diversity….what are the odds that ‘chance’ is the answer?


What are the odds?



5. The sequence of events from the creation of the universe, to the present, begin with great explosion that produces the universe, including the earth. The earth cools enough for oceans to form. The first life is plant life, able to photosynthesize, and add oxygen to the atmosphere. All sorts of simple non-plants fill the seas, most wormlike, with soft bodies. Along come the trilobites, hugely advanced, with hard bodies…and most amazingly, with true eyes! This makes them the primary predators….but, imposes enormous evolutionary pressure on the other organisms. The result is the Cambrian explosion, lots of small organisms with defensive armor and hard exoskeletons, some 521 million years ago. So says modern science.


a. “…Genesis shows remarkable accuracy when compared to the scientific story of life’s evolutionary journey. Here, the Genesis writer envisioned great creatures evolving from those tiny Cambrian forms, eventually making their way out of the sea….Genesis seems to have picked out all the events of the highest order of importance, and put them in the right order….I don’t know the odds against such a parallel- against making a successful guess at the scientific orthodoxy of three thousand year into the future from a knowledge base of nothing- but they must be extraordinarily long.” Parker, Op. Cit., p.163-164.


b. An interesting sidelight is the ‘evolution of the Bible’ itself. Christians have incorporated a great deal of science’s process. Early in the 20th century, the Scofield Reference Bible was published. This was a new version of the King James Bible with which added a note to Genesis, suggesting what is called the “gap theory.’ It allows that millions of years could have passed between God’s creation of the heavens and the earth, thereby freeing Genesis from the literal six-day process. “What it left was a series- the same series- of timeless events; and it is these that match the scientific account of life’s history.” Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” p. 160.


6. Unavoidable is the recognition that, once the restrictions due to the ‘six-day’ view are removed, the order of events established by modern science conform to the sequence in the first chapter of Genesis, written millennia earlier: light from an explosion (the Big Bang), universe/earth formed, the seas from the cooling earth, plants as the first life forms; abundant sea life (the Cambrian explosion), the (evolution) of the flora and fauna we see today. Neat, eh?

Lucky guess by the author of the creation account of Genesis?


7. If it is not evidence for the God, then the author of Genesis 1, or Moses, perhaps, must have understood that the universe formed first, then the seas appeared on earth, and that life forms were photosynthetic. Following that, he had to have realized that an eye evolved in an early animal in the geological past, which triggered the evolution of all the major groups of animals that exist today. Still further, he must have felt that all of this occurred in the seas, before animals moved onto land, and only when they did move out of the water did mammals and birds evolve.


The Old Testament was written, although not compiled, almost three millennia ago. It is extraordinary that the writer of the creation account in Genesis, chapter one, got it right in his exposition of the series of events: his sequence turns out to be scientifically accurate in terms of contemporary knowledge.


Wow! What an incredibly lucky guess! What a considerable stroke of good fortune!


The alternative explanation is divine intervention.

1. “ a majority of scientists (51%) say they believe in God or a higher power, while 41% say they do not.” What do scientists think about religion?

What a laughable, steaming pile of shit that copy/paste job was. No, the Bible does not 'recount evolution".

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The people who believe we are an accident believe that a tornado can blow through a wrecking yard and leave a fully functional 747 in its wake.

People who write statements like this really don't understand what they are talking about. No one has ever said we are an accident.

Sure they have.

Well you and they have been corrected, so don't say it again.