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What??? World War II is over-they only want our money now-they hate Americans.They've only died for you as the only country to have called on NATO support. The bastards.Good. Our "allies" have not been good to us.
America first policy is experiencing blowback. Donald Trump is isolating America from its neighbors as well as military allies.
Donald Trump's real motive in America first policy was encouraging higher military spending by allies and more military adventurism by allies and to induce more spending on US manufactured war machines and munitions by allies.
Its not working as the allies are devising their own separate military strategies excluding the US.
"America’s friends are choosing to dissociate themselves, believing their interests are better served without American strength. It seems the rest of the world is losing faith that the U.S. is a reliable partner, sober and taking others’ interests into account as well as its own. The U.S. is ceasing to be a country that its allies come to for help solving problems. On the contrary, America’s allies think the U.S. is the cause of their increasingly tenuous security."
The current Middle East refugee chaos caused by US policy is costing Europe huge amounts of money and social angst.
America's allies are hoping Donald Trump gets run outta town in 2020 elections.
The Bill for America First Is Coming Due
The Bill for America First Is Coming Due
Two of America’s closest treaty allies have announced military efforts explicitly designed to exclude the U.S.
JUL 27, 2019
Kori Schake
In this crowded and enervating week of news, it would have been easy to miss two small but consequential signs of the damage President Donald Trump and his team have done to America’s standing in the world. Two of America’s closest treaty allies have announced military efforts explicitly designed to exclude the United States. Australia is “seeking to cement its status as the security partner of choice for Pacific nations” by establishing an expeditionary training force. And the United Kingdom wants to create a multinational force to ensure freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz.
It’s not a coincidence that allies are striking out on their own. Countries in the Pacific worry that the U.S. is forcing them to choose between their economic connections to China and their security relationships with the U.S. And while forcing this choice, the U.S. is also publicly calling the security guarantees into question—President Trump did so before arriving in Japan for the G20 summit. Meanwhile, European allies blame Trump-administration tactics for Iran’s decision to lash out at shipping in the Gulf. That’s why British Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt stressed that the purpose of the multinational force was to dissociate European governments from U.S. policy toward Iran. Hunt explicitly said, “It will not be part of the U.S. maximum pressure policy on Iran because we remain committed to preserving the Iran nuclear agreement.”
As it happens, these efforts are consistent with Trump’s insistence that allies do more for themselves. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo responded to news of the British initiative by saying, “The responsibility … falls to the United Kingdom to take care of their ships.”
The sad reality, however, is that America’s European allies cannot protect their ships without American help. Even the French Foreign Ministry had to admit that any European effort would “naturally have to be co-ordinated with the US on the operational level.” The International Institute for Strategic Studies estimates that it would cost European countries $110 billion to defend freedom of navigation. That is more than the annual defense budgets of Britain and France combined. It isn’t happening anytime soon, regardless of brave talk about “European strategic autonomy.”
Pacific nations, moreover, may not want Australian military training, for fear of antagonizing China when Australian security guarantees are not on offer, and wouldn’t suffice against a threat of China’s magnitude anyway.
An America Firster might not see much to dislike here. In the past 70 years, the U.S. has allowed more and more of the security burden to migrate from allies onto the U.S. Both of this week’s initiatives would relieve some pressure from U.S. forces as the U.S. tries to prioritize its efforts away from the Gulf to manage the China challenge. Both are undertaken by trusted American allies. They may prove to be the harbinger of a more balanced relationship among strong states of the West.
That would be a good outcome for the U.S.—but only if allies were choosing to do more consistent with American interests. They are not. The U.S. had a proposal for maritime patrols in the Gulf that its European allies declined to join. If the U.S. doesn’t act in concert with others, it will have less absolute power.
To take a financial example, European Union countries did not develop a so-called special-purpose vehicle for funding business with Iran to support American efforts—they are building means to circumvent dollar primacy because they object so strenuously to American policy on Iran. The SPV won’t succeed in the near term, but it shows that America’s European allies are so rattled by Trump’s Iran policy and so exasperated by the profligacy of U.S. sanctions that they’re looking to limit American financial power.
America’s friends are choosing to dissociate themselves, believing their interests are better served without American strength. It seems the rest of the world is losing faith that the U.S. is a reliable partner, sober and taking others’ interests into account as well as its own. The U.S. is ceasing to be a country that its allies come to for help solving problems. On the contrary, America’s allies think the U.S. is the cause of their increasingly tenuous security.
The Australian and British initiatives may not succeed. But the very fact of these proposals is proof that relations with close allies have frayed in systemically significant ways. This is what it looks like when the American-led international order comes to an end.
Yet America was not the only nation that was playing baseball when a neighbor's window was broken.He's talking about Afghanistan. Any of you guys ever hear of it? NATO's Article 5 has only been invoked once since 1949 - after the US was attacked on 9/11/2001. The countries CNM mentioned, and many others, provided troops and suffered casualties in support of the US.
Yet America was not the only nation that was playing baseball when a neighbor's window was broken.He's talking about Afghanistan. Any of you guys ever hear of it? NATO's Article 5 has only been invoked once since 1949 - after the US was attacked on 9/11/2001. The countries CNM mentioned, and many others, provided troops and suffered casualties in support of the US.
But the neighbor came after us, with a vengeance and caused much damage and death.. Do you understand metaphors?
We were representing the interests of many, many nations in Afghanistan. Why should we not receive their support and help? I'm afraid the whiny complaints of "friends" who want all the benefits we can give them but want nothing to do with the risks and penalties incurred have zero moral authority.
Your arguments are hollow.
I love it. The tears of reactionary victim hood are so sweet. Guess which country is the only one to have called on NATO allies and had them die on its behalf.So you believe that we should increase our national debt so that we can send money overseas? You think that we should send more of our young to die on foreign soil?
We "represented" their interestsWe weren't "representing" them - they were there with us. That was the point. If you missed it, no wonder you find the argument hollow.
Good thing for you.BTW, it wasn't intended as an argument.
I didn't do that.You nutters leapt to the erroneous conclusion CNM was talking about WWII. I was just giving a heads-up.
Well done! When asked to get off the gravy train they've been riding since the Cold War fifties these nations scream like stuck pigs and act all indignant.We should help other countries help themselves we have the most advanced military in the Free world. The Problem the other Nato Country's have now is that we're making them Pay for what they've been receiving for free for 75 yrs. Military protection is not a free pass anymore. European country's act like our friends then do business with country's we are paying to protect them from. Wait till Russia shuts off their fuel supply. They sat back while Russia annexed Crimea and took control of the oil fields. They'll be crying when Vlad impales them with energy shortages.
America first policy is experiencing blowback. Donald Trump is isolating America from its neighbors as well as military allies.
Donald Trump's real motive in America first policy was encouraging higher military spending by allies and more military adventurism by allies and to induce more spending on US manufactured war machines and munitions by allies.
Its not working as the allies are devising their own separate military strategies excluding the US.
"America’s friends are choosing to dissociate themselves, believing their interests are better served without American strength. It seems the rest of the world is losing faith that the U.S. is a reliable partner, sober and taking others’ interests into account as well as its own. The U.S. is ceasing to be a country that its allies come to for help solving problems. On the contrary, America’s allies think the U.S. is the cause of their increasingly tenuous security."
The current Middle East refugee chaos caused by US policy is costing Europe huge amounts of money and social angst.
America's allies are hoping Donald Trump gets run outta town in 2020 elections.
The Bill for America First Is Coming Due
The Bill for America First Is Coming Due
Two of America’s closest treaty allies have announced military efforts explicitly designed to exclude the U.S.
JUL 27, 2019
Kori Schake
In this crowded and enervating week of news, it would have been easy to miss two small but consequential signs of the damage President Donald Trump and his team have done to America’s standing in the world. Two of America’s closest treaty allies have announced military efforts explicitly designed to exclude the United States. Australia is “seeking to cement its status as the security partner of choice for Pacific nations” by establishing an expeditionary training force. And the United Kingdom wants to create a multinational force to ensure freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz.
It’s not a coincidence that allies are striking out on their own. Countries in the Pacific worry that the U.S. is forcing them to choose between their economic connections to China and their security relationships with the U.S. And while forcing this choice, the U.S. is also publicly calling the security guarantees into question—President Trump did so before arriving in Japan for the G20 summit. Meanwhile, European allies blame Trump-administration tactics for Iran’s decision to lash out at shipping in the Gulf. That’s why British Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt stressed that the purpose of the multinational force was to dissociate European governments from U.S. policy toward Iran. Hunt explicitly said, “It will not be part of the U.S. maximum pressure policy on Iran because we remain committed to preserving the Iran nuclear agreement.”
As it happens, these efforts are consistent with Trump’s insistence that allies do more for themselves. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo responded to news of the British initiative by saying, “The responsibility … falls to the United Kingdom to take care of their ships.”
The sad reality, however, is that America’s European allies cannot protect their ships without American help. Even the French Foreign Ministry had to admit that any European effort would “naturally have to be co-ordinated with the US on the operational level.” The International Institute for Strategic Studies estimates that it would cost European countries $110 billion to defend freedom of navigation. That is more than the annual defense budgets of Britain and France combined. It isn’t happening anytime soon, regardless of brave talk about “European strategic autonomy.”
Pacific nations, moreover, may not want Australian military training, for fear of antagonizing China when Australian security guarantees are not on offer, and wouldn’t suffice against a threat of China’s magnitude anyway.
An America Firster might not see much to dislike here. In the past 70 years, the U.S. has allowed more and more of the security burden to migrate from allies onto the U.S. Both of this week’s initiatives would relieve some pressure from U.S. forces as the U.S. tries to prioritize its efforts away from the Gulf to manage the China challenge. Both are undertaken by trusted American allies. They may prove to be the harbinger of a more balanced relationship among strong states of the West.
That would be a good outcome for the U.S.—but only if allies were choosing to do more consistent with American interests. They are not. The U.S. had a proposal for maritime patrols in the Gulf that its European allies declined to join. If the U.S. doesn’t act in concert with others, it will have less absolute power.
To take a financial example, European Union countries did not develop a so-called special-purpose vehicle for funding business with Iran to support American efforts—they are building means to circumvent dollar primacy because they object so strenuously to American policy on Iran. The SPV won’t succeed in the near term, but it shows that America’s European allies are so rattled by Trump’s Iran policy and so exasperated by the profligacy of U.S. sanctions that they’re looking to limit American financial power.
America’s friends are choosing to dissociate themselves, believing their interests are better served without American strength. It seems the rest of the world is losing faith that the U.S. is a reliable partner, sober and taking others’ interests into account as well as its own. The U.S. is ceasing to be a country that its allies come to for help solving problems. On the contrary, America’s allies think the U.S. is the cause of their increasingly tenuous security.
The Australian and British initiatives may not succeed. But the very fact of these proposals is proof that relations with close allies have frayed in systemically significant ways. This is what it looks like when the American-led international order comes to an end.
--------------------------- yep , its time to build Fortress America and has been my thinking for years and years . Even the FOUNDERS warned against Foreign Entanglements over 250 years ago .Good, let them do their own shit. Why do we need to be holding their hands all the time?
------------------------------------ if all you say is true , well you 'canooks' aren't very smart DLady .Good, let them do their own shit. Why do we need to be holding their hands all the time?
Europe, and in particular Germany, have long been footing the bill for the continuing refugee crisis resulting from American foreign policy. Germany took in one million Syrian refugees. 5 million fled Syria. Canada took in 25,000 Syrian refugees. The US took none.
The costs of US foreign policy are not just found in military spending. Americans have been waging war and creating refugees the world over since WWII, and then walking away while others take in the victims and take care of them.
The Central American refugees being just the latest group to trust Americans and get screwed over.
Good, let them do their own shit. Why do we need to be holding their hands all the time?
Europe, and in particular Germany, have long been footing the bill for the continuing refugee crisis resulting from American foreign policy. Germany took in one million Syrian refugees. 5 million fled Syria. Canada took in 25,000 Syrian refugees. The US took none.
The costs of US foreign policy are not just found in military spending. Americans have been waging war and creating refugees the world over since WWII, and then walking away while others take in the victims and take care of them.
The Central American refugees being just the latest group to trust Americans and get screwed over.
Good, let them do their own shit. Why do we need to be holding their hands all the time?
Europe, and in particular Germany, have long been footing the bill for the continuing refugee crisis resulting from American foreign policy. Germany took in one million Syrian refugees. 5 million fled Syria. Canada took in 25,000 Syrian refugees. The US took none.
The costs of US foreign policy are not just found in military spending. Americans have been waging war and creating refugees the world over since WWII, and then walking away while others take in the victims and take care of them.
The Central American refugees being just the latest group to trust Americans and get screwed over.
The United States took in over 22,000 refuges in 2018. Less than other years however we are in a debt crisis and continuing to sink. Maybe the UN needs to intervene in Syria.
For Bush-not us. We don't need them and I don't care for them.What??? World War II is over-they only want our money now-they hate Americans.They've only died for you as the only country to have called on NATO support. The bastards.Good. Our "allies" have not been good to us.
He's talking about Afghanistan. Any of you guys ever hear of it? NATO's Article 5 has only been invoked once since 1949 - after the US was attacked on 9/11/2001. The countries CNM mentioned, and many others, provided troops and suffered casualties in support of the US.
For Bush-not us. We don't need them and I don't care for them.What??? World War II is over-they only want our money now-they hate Americans.They've only died for you as the only country to have called on NATO support. The bastards.Good. Our "allies" have not been good to us.
He's talking about Afghanistan. Any of you guys ever hear of it? NATO's Article 5 has only been invoked once since 1949 - after the US was attacked on 9/11/2001. The countries CNM mentioned, and many others, provided troops and suffered casualties in support of the US.
Good, let them do their own shit. Why do we need to be holding their hands all the time?
Europe, and in particular Germany, have long been footing the bill for the continuing refugee crisis resulting from American foreign policy. Germany took in one million Syrian refugees. 5 million fled Syria. Canada took in 25,000 Syrian refugees. The US took none.
The costs of US foreign policy are not just found in military spending. Americans have been waging war and creating refugees the world over since WWII, and then walking away while others take in the victims and take care of them.
The Central American refugees being just the latest group to trust Americans and get screwed over.
The United States took in over 22,000 refuges in 2018. Less than other years however we are in a debt crisis and continuing to sink. Maybe the UN needs to intervene in Syria.
Canada took in 25,000 refugees last year and our population is 1/10 that of the USA, and our economy isn’t anywhere near the size of yours.
Your economy is roaring according to your President yet everyone in the world does more for the poor than you do.
Greedy, selfish and racist. America used to be better than this. .
Hey, dumb ass! America takes in millions of refugees! Educate your stupid biased self. Key facts about refugees to the U.S.Canada took in 25,000 refugees last year and our population is 1/10 that of the USA, and our economy isn’t anywhere near the size of yours.
Your economy is roaring according to your President yet everyone in the world does more for the poor than you do.
Greedy, selfish and racist. America used to be better than this. .
Good, let them do their own shit. Why do we need to be holding their hands all the time?
Europe, and in particular Germany, have long been footing the bill for the continuing refugee crisis resulting from American foreign policy. Germany took in one million Syrian refugees. 5 million fled Syria. Canada took in 25,000 Syrian refugees. The US took none.
The costs of US foreign policy are not just found in military spending. Americans have been waging war and creating refugees the world over since WWII, and then walking away while others take in the victims and take care of them.
The Central American refugees being just the latest group to trust Americans and get screwed over.
The United States took in over 22,000 refuges in 2018. Less than other years however we are in a debt crisis and continuing to sink. Maybe the UN needs to intervene in Syria.
Canada took in 25,000 refugees last year and our population is 1/10 that of the USA, and our economy isn’t anywhere near the size of yours.
Your economy is roaring according to your President yet everyone in the world does more for the poor than you do.
Greedy, selfish and racist. America used to be better than this. .
You can thank your beloved Turdeau, he loves Muslims. He wants to import millions more too.
You don’t sound to happy about taking 25,000 Muslims. That wouldn’t be bigotry I detect, is it?
