the child president

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Trump is the usual spoiled rich boy - there are lots of them today. Wealth seems to create child men with little empathy and even less grasp of reality. Consider he inherited his wealth and was the well heeled draft dodger of the sixties. Bad feet sure. Like his marriages, his business ventures are failures when they are no cons. That anyone still considers him presidential material is a reflection of their lack of observation.

"This ‘illusion of confidence’ extends beyond the classroom and permeates everyday life. In a follow-up study, Dunning and Kruger left the lab and went to a gun range, where they quizzed gun hobbyists about gun safety." Kate Fehlhaber What know-it-alls don’t know, or the illusion of competence | Aeon Ideas

sorry - i got lost looking up obama's military career. what did you say again?

Well at least Obama did not get some doctor to excuse him from being drafted.

Funny when Clinton ( Bill ) ran for office those like you called him a draft dodger but excuse Trump for dodging the same war.

 

[guno]

Excellent articles in: psychology today that fits the situation


Machiavellians: Gulling the Rubes

 

[iceberg]

Trump is the usual spoiled rich boy - there are lots of them today. Wealth seems to create child men with little empathy and even less grasp of reality. Consider he inherited his wealth and was the well heeled draft dodger of the sixties. Bad feet sure. Like his marriages, his business ventures are failures when they are no cons. That anyone still considers him presidential material is a reflection of their lack of observation.

"This ‘illusion of confidence’ extends beyond the classroom and permeates everyday life. In a follow-up study, Dunning and Kruger left the lab and went to a gun range, where they quizzed gun hobbyists about gun safety." Kate Fehlhaber What know-it-alls don’t know, or the illusion of competence | Aeon Ideas

sorry - i got lost looking up obama's military career. what did you say again?

Well at least Obama did not get some doctor to excuse him from being drafted.

Funny when Clinton ( Bill ) ran for office those like you called him a draft dodger but excuse Trump for dodging the same war.

gonna need a bigger bullshit excuse. far as i know we've not had the draft since obama would have been eligible.

this where i go "i know people like you who make shit up and only apply bad things to the other side and never their own..." - does that tell me all i need to know about you or can we stop the stereotyping?

 

[Mac1958]

Books will be written about the psychosocial elements of this man's appeal, and how much his voters had to overlook & ignore.
.

Same could be said of the people that voted for Her Royal Majesty, the 2016 POTUS campaign was a contest in scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Both Republicans and Democrats should be ashamed of themselves.

Both candidates were horrible, but they're not the same. Trump is unique.

I know his supporters will take "unique" in a good way, and that fascinates me, too.
.

The automatic deflection here to Clinton and Obama ought to tell you something. They are at a loss for what to say.

Well, this is where we get into my weird fascination with the power of partisan ideology.

I believe that people afflicted with that condition have literally talked themselves, at least on a conscious level, into really believing what they're saying. In this case, they can look at both the overall body of his ridiculous behavior and each individual behavior and see nothing wrong. They'll just write it all off as being "blunt". They really don't see it, literally.

I've developed a great respect for how much intellectual influence an ideology can have over people.
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[NightFox]

Books will be written about the psychosocial elements of this man's appeal, and how much his voters had to overlook & ignore.
.

Same could be said of the people that voted for Her Royal Majesty, the 2016 POTUS campaign was a contest in scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Both Republicans and Democrats should be ashamed of themselves.

Both candidates were horrible, but they're not the same. Trump is unique.

I know his supporters will take "unique" in a good way, and that fascinates me, too.
.

The automatic deflection here to Clinton and Obama ought to tell you something. .

Yeah, it's a clear indication that the only difference between Democrat apologists and Republican apologists is the letter stamped on their tiny lemming foreheads.

From "but Bush..." to "but Obama..." , a study in the art of partisan cognitive dissonance.

 

[Disir]

It appears Trump has given the Democrats a lot of what they wanted: Faux privatization of the public education system, privatization of the government, working on unification of Korea, overthrowing the government of Venezuela. The Democrats loved that shit. Ate it up. What's the problem?

Vox
Vox’s Undisclosed Conflicts of Interest, Explained

Working for a different set of billionaires?

 

[iceberg]

Books will be written about the psychosocial elements of this man's appeal, and how much his voters had to overlook & ignore.
.

Same could be said of the people that voted for Her Royal Majesty, the 2016 POTUS campaign was a contest in scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Both Republicans and Democrats should be ashamed of themselves.

Both candidates were horrible, but they're not the same. Trump is unique.

I know his supporters will take "unique" in a good way, and that fascinates me, too.
.

The automatic deflection here to Clinton and Obama ought to tell you something. .

Yeah, it's a clear indication that the only difference between Democrat apologists and Republican apologists is the letter stamped on their tiny lemming foreheads.

From "but Bush..." to "but Obama..." , a study in the art of partisan cognitive dissonance.

you find out who the pom pom waving cheerleaders are by their constant blind attacks on the other side and their stupid ass defenses of their own actions.

 

[ChrisL]

At base, Trump is an infantalist. There are three tasks that most mature adults have sort of figured out by the time they hit 25. Trump has mastered none of them. Immaturity is becoming the dominant note of his presidency, lack of self-control his leitmotif.

First, most adults have learned to sit still. But mentally, Trump is still a 7-year-old boy who is bouncing around the classroom. Trump’s answers in these interviews are not very long – 200 words at the high end – but he will typically flit through four or five topics before ending up with how unfair the press is to him.

His inability to focus his attention makes it hard for him to learn and master facts. He is ill informed about his own policies and tramples his own talking points. It makes it hard to control his mouth. On an impulse, he will promise a tax reform when his staff has done little of the actual work.


Second, most people of drinking age have achieved some accurate sense of themselves, some internal criteria to measure their own merits and demerits. But Trump seems to need perpetual outside approval to stabilize his sense of self, so he is perpetually desperate for approval, telling heroic fabulist tales about himself.

“In a short period of time I understood everything there was to know about health care,” he told Time. “A lot of the people have said that, some people said it was the single best speech ever made in that chamber,” he told The Associated Press, referring to his joint session speech.

By Trump’s own account, he knows more about aircraft carrier technology than the Navy. According to his interview with The Economist, he invented the phrase “priming the pump” (even though it was famous by 1933). Trump is not only trying to deceive others. His falsehoods are attempts to build a world in which he can feel good for an instant and comfortably deceive himself.

He is thus the all-time record-holder of the Dunning-Kruger effect, the phenomenon in which the incompetent person is too incompetent to understand his own incompetence. Trump thought he’d be celebrated for firing James Comey. He thought his press coverage would grow wildly positive once he won the nomination. He is perpetually surprised because reality does not comport with his fantasies.

Third, by adulthood most people can perceive how others are thinking. For example, they learn subtle arts such as false modesty so they won’t be perceived as obnoxious.

But Trump seems to have not yet developed a theory of mind. Other people are black boxes that supply either affirmation or disapproval. As a result, he is weirdly transparent. He wants people to love him, so he is constantly telling interviewers that he is widely loved. In Trump’s telling, every meeting was scheduled for 15 minutes but his guests stayed two hours because they liked him so much.

Which brings us to the reports that Trump betrayed an intelligence source and leaked secrets to his Russian visitors. From all we know so far, Trump didn’t do it because he is a Russian agent, or for any malevolent intent. He did it because he is sloppy, because he lacks all impulse control, and above all because he is a 9-year-old boy desperate for the approval of those he admires.

The Russian leak story reveals one other thing, the dangerousness of a hollow man.

Our institutions depend on people who have enough engraved character traits to fulfill their assigned duties. But there is perpetually less to Trump than it appears. When we analyze a president’s utterances we tend to assume that there is some substantive process behind the words, that it’s part of some strategic intent.

But Trump’s statements don’t necessarily come from anywhere, lead anywhere or have a permanent reality beyond his wish to be liked at any given instant.

We’ve got this perverse situation in which the vast analytic powers of the entire world are being spent trying to understand a guy whose thoughts are often just six fireflies beeping randomly in a jar.

“We badly want to understand Trump, to grasp him,” David Roberts writes in Vox. “It might give us some sense of control, or at least an ability to predict what he will do next. But what if there’s nothing to understand? What if there is no there there?”

And out of that void comes a carelessness that quite possibly betrayed an intelligence source, and endangered a country.

This is what happens when the world is led by a child

Well, you may call him incompetent. However, keep in mind that this is the POTUS you are referring to, which is the HIGHEST position anyone can achieve in this country, also a billionaire. If he was so incompetent, he wouldn't be where he is today!

 

[ChrisL]

I don't know, but there was no way I was voting for a criminal, so I chose to vote for the asshole instead.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Trump is the usual spoiled rich boy - there are lots of them today. Wealth seems to create child men with little empathy and even less grasp of reality. Consider he inherited his wealth and was the well heeled draft dodger of the sixties. Bad feet sure. Like his marriages, his business ventures are failures when they are no cons. That anyone still considers him presidential material is a reflection of their lack of observation.

"This ‘illusion of confidence’ extends beyond the classroom and permeates everyday life. In a follow-up study, Dunning and Kruger left the lab and went to a gun range, where they quizzed gun hobbyists about gun safety." Kate Fehlhaber What know-it-alls don’t know, or the illusion of competence | Aeon Ideas

sorry - i got lost looking up obama's military career. what did you say again?

Well at least Obama did not get some doctor to excuse him from being drafted.

Funny when Clinton ( Bill ) ran for office those like you called him a draft dodger but excuse Trump for dodging the same war.

gonna need a bigger bullshit excuse. far as i know we've not had the draft since obama would have been eligible.

this where i go "i know people like you who make shit up and only apply bad things to the other side and never their own..." - does that tell me all i need to know about you or can we stop the stereotyping?

Now we can not fucktard!

You brought up Obama military past or lack of it while brushing off the reality Trump just like Clinton ( Bill ) dodge the damn draft.

Obama was not require to serve and was not issue a draft notice but Trump and Clinton were served with a damn notice and like the cowards they were and still are they let another innocent kid go in their place while one ran and the other was excused because he was too rich to die.

So no I will not stop sterotyping those like you when you try to excuse Trump for being a pathetic coward by using the fact Obama never served a day in the Military!

You're the type of person that most likely believe George W. Bush served during Vietnam without knowing the Guard was where you hid the rich kids while the poor ones went to war!

So if you don't like the fact you were wrong trying to compare Obama lack of being in the Military to Trump being a fucking coward like Clinton, well then don't do it!

 

[TNHarley]

Trump is a loser of epic proportions. He is an idiot, he fails a lot and childish.
However, at this point, I am still glad Clinton LOST.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Books will be written about the psychosocial elements of this man's appeal, and how much his voters had to overlook & ignore.
.

Same could be said of the people that voted for Her Royal Majesty, the 2016 POTUS campaign was a contest in scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Both Republicans and Democrats should be ashamed of themselves.

Both candidates were horrible, but they're not the same. Trump is unique.

I know his supporters will take "unique" in a good way, and that fascinates me, too.
.

The automatic deflection here to Clinton and Obama ought to tell you something. .

Yeah, it's a clear indication that the only difference between Democrat apologists and Republican apologists is the letter stamped on their tiny lemming foreheads.

From "but Bush..." to "but Obama..." , a study in the art of partisan cognitive dissonance.

you find out who the pom pom waving cheerleaders are by their constant blind attacks on the other side and their stupid ass defenses of their own actions.

You sure do and should look in the damn mirror!

 

[TNHarley]

I don't know, but there was no way I was voting for a criminal, so I chose to vote for the asshole instead.

are you still satisfied with that choice?

 

[iceberg]

Now we can not fucktard!

You brought up Obama military past or lack of it while brushing off the reality Trump just like Clinton ( Bill ) dodge the damn draft.

Obama was not require to serve and was not issue a draft notice but Trump and Clinton were served with a damn notice and like the cowards they were and still are they let another innocent kid go in their place while one ran and the other was excused because he was too rich to die.

So no I will not stop sterotyping those like you when you try to excuse Trump for being a pathetic coward by using the fact Obama never served a day in the Military!

You're the type of person that most likely believe George W. Bush served during Vietnam without knowing the Guard was where you hid the rich kids while the poor ones went to war!

So if you don't like the fact you were wrong trying to compare Obama lack of being in the Military to Trump being a fucking coward like Clinton, well then don't do it!

ooo - you threw out a fucktard - you must be right! i mean, that was cool, clever, and will forever be spoken of in the halls of heros in valhalla!

THOR: to bruce - he called someone a fucktard online cause they disagreed!"
Rest of the GODS - OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

with that out of the way - since the rest of what you do is tell me who i am without taking the time to know me - i'm out.

btw - i never said a thing about trump. you had that covered and i didn't need to. yep he did it. yep it was stupid. yep he deserves shit for it. but if you attack something on someone else then don't act like someone nutted you when they use the standard you set against those you support cause in the end, it's the same.

you can get back to your doosh-patrol now.

ignore +1.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

At base, Trump is an infantalist. There are three tasks that most mature adults have sort of figured out by the time they hit 25. Trump has mastered none of them. Immaturity is becoming the dominant note of his presidency, lack of self-control his leitmotif.

First, most adults have learned to sit still. But mentally, Trump is still a 7-year-old boy who is bouncing around the classroom. Trump’s answers in these interviews are not very long – 200 words at the high end – but he will typically flit through four or five topics before ending up with how unfair the press is to him.

His inability to focus his attention makes it hard for him to learn and master facts. He is ill informed about his own policies and tramples his own talking points. It makes it hard to control his mouth. On an impulse, he will promise a tax reform when his staff has done little of the actual work.


Second, most people of drinking age have achieved some accurate sense of themselves, some internal criteria to measure their own merits and demerits. But Trump seems to need perpetual outside approval to stabilize his sense of self, so he is perpetually desperate for approval, telling heroic fabulist tales about himself.

“In a short period of time I understood everything there was to know about health care,” he told Time. “A lot of the people have said that, some people said it was the single best speech ever made in that chamber,” he told The Associated Press, referring to his joint session speech.

By Trump’s own account, he knows more about aircraft carrier technology than the Navy. According to his interview with The Economist, he invented the phrase “priming the pump” (even though it was famous by 1933). Trump is not only trying to deceive others. His falsehoods are attempts to build a world in which he can feel good for an instant and comfortably deceive himself.

He is thus the all-time record-holder of the Dunning-Kruger effect, the phenomenon in which the incompetent person is too incompetent to understand his own incompetence. Trump thought he’d be celebrated for firing James Comey. He thought his press coverage would grow wildly positive once he won the nomination. He is perpetually surprised because reality does not comport with his fantasies.

Third, by adulthood most people can perceive how others are thinking. For example, they learn subtle arts such as false modesty so they won’t be perceived as obnoxious.

But Trump seems to have not yet developed a theory of mind. Other people are black boxes that supply either affirmation or disapproval. As a result, he is weirdly transparent. He wants people to love him, so he is constantly telling interviewers that he is widely loved. In Trump’s telling, every meeting was scheduled for 15 minutes but his guests stayed two hours because they liked him so much.

Which brings us to the reports that Trump betrayed an intelligence source and leaked secrets to his Russian visitors. From all we know so far, Trump didn’t do it because he is a Russian agent, or for any malevolent intent. He did it because he is sloppy, because he lacks all impulse control, and above all because he is a 9-year-old boy desperate for the approval of those he admires.

The Russian leak story reveals one other thing, the dangerousness of a hollow man.

Our institutions depend on people who have enough engraved character traits to fulfill their assigned duties. But there is perpetually less to Trump than it appears. When we analyze a president’s utterances we tend to assume that there is some substantive process behind the words, that it’s part of some strategic intent.

But Trump’s statements don’t necessarily come from anywhere, lead anywhere or have a permanent reality beyond his wish to be liked at any given instant.

We’ve got this perverse situation in which the vast analytic powers of the entire world are being spent trying to understand a guy whose thoughts are often just six fireflies beeping randomly in a jar.

“We badly want to understand Trump, to grasp him,” David Roberts writes in Vox. “It might give us some sense of control, or at least an ability to predict what he will do next. But what if there’s nothing to understand? What if there is no there there?”

And out of that void comes a carelessness that quite possibly betrayed an intelligence source, and endangered a country.

This is what happens when the world is led by a child

You can't be serious.
It's like a bunch of monkeys fucking a football.
Constant piling on.
You people lose an election and this is the best you can come up with.
Can't even give us a reason to want to vote for a Democrat ever again.
We just spent the last 8 years dealing with a child president who had to be pushed to do anything.
Now you have a guy in there that works his ass off every day for you.

All I can say is you people are terrible judges of character.

People of low character generally are.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

I don't know, but there was no way I was voting for a criminal, so I chose to vote for the asshole instead.

are you still satisfied with that choice?

Most of them are and will never admit Trump was a bad choice.

I am glad I voted for Johnson over the two bigger parties whores...

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I don't know, but there was no way I was voting for a criminal, so I chose to vote for the asshole instead.

are you still satisfied with that choice?

Most of them are and will never admit Trump was a bad choice.

I am glad I voted for Johnson over the two bigger parties whores...

Of the two possible winners, Trump was the only choice.

 

[TNHarley]

I don't know, but there was no way I was voting for a criminal, so I chose to vote for the asshole instead.

are you still satisfied with that choice?

Most of them are and will never admit Trump was a bad choice.

I am glad I voted for Johnson over the two bigger parties whores...

I don't blame you. But he is still a borderline retard.

 

[NightFox]

At base, Trump is an infantalist. There are three tasks that most mature adults have sort of figured out by the time they hit 25. Trump has mastered none of them. Immaturity is becoming the dominant note of his presidency, lack of self-control his leitmotif.

First, most adults have learned to sit still. But mentally, Trump is still a 7-year-old boy who is bouncing around the classroom. Trump’s answers in these interviews are not very long – 200 words at the high end – but he will typically flit through four or five topics before ending up with how unfair the press is to him.

His inability to focus his attention makes it hard for him to learn and master facts. He is ill informed about his own policies and tramples his own talking points. It makes it hard to control his mouth. On an impulse, he will promise a tax reform when his staff has done little of the actual work.


Second, most people of drinking age have achieved some accurate sense of themselves, some internal criteria to measure their own merits and demerits. But Trump seems to need perpetual outside approval to stabilize his sense of self, so he is perpetually desperate for approval, telling heroic fabulist tales about himself.

“In a short period of time I understood everything there was to know about health care,” he told Time. “A lot of the people have said that, some people said it was the single best speech ever made in that chamber,” he told The Associated Press, referring to his joint session speech.

By Trump’s own account, he knows more about aircraft carrier technology than the Navy. According to his interview with The Economist, he invented the phrase “priming the pump” (even though it was famous by 1933). Trump is not only trying to deceive others. His falsehoods are attempts to build a world in which he can feel good for an instant and comfortably deceive himself.

He is thus the all-time record-holder of the Dunning-Kruger effect, the phenomenon in which the incompetent person is too incompetent to understand his own incompetence. Trump thought he’d be celebrated for firing James Comey. He thought his press coverage would grow wildly positive once he won the nomination. He is perpetually surprised because reality does not comport with his fantasies.

Third, by adulthood most people can perceive how others are thinking. For example, they learn subtle arts such as false modesty so they won’t be perceived as obnoxious.

But Trump seems to have not yet developed a theory of mind. Other people are black boxes that supply either affirmation or disapproval. As a result, he is weirdly transparent. He wants people to love him, so he is constantly telling interviewers that he is widely loved. In Trump’s telling, every meeting was scheduled for 15 minutes but his guests stayed two hours because they liked him so much.

Which brings us to the reports that Trump betrayed an intelligence source and leaked secrets to his Russian visitors. From all we know so far, Trump didn’t do it because he is a Russian agent, or for any malevolent intent. He did it because he is sloppy, because he lacks all impulse control, and above all because he is a 9-year-old boy desperate for the approval of those he admires.

The Russian leak story reveals one other thing, the dangerousness of a hollow man.

Our institutions depend on people who have enough engraved character traits to fulfill their assigned duties. But there is perpetually less to Trump than it appears. When we analyze a president’s utterances we tend to assume that there is some substantive process behind the words, that it’s part of some strategic intent.

But Trump’s statements don’t necessarily come from anywhere, lead anywhere or have a permanent reality beyond his wish to be liked at any given instant.

We’ve got this perverse situation in which the vast analytic powers of the entire world are being spent trying to understand a guy whose thoughts are often just six fireflies beeping randomly in a jar.

“We badly want to understand Trump, to grasp him,” David Roberts writes in Vox. “It might give us some sense of control, or at least an ability to predict what he will do next. But what if there’s nothing to understand? What if there is no there there?”

And out of that void comes a carelessness that quite possibly betrayed an intelligence source, and endangered a country.

This is what happens when the world is led by a child

Well, you may call him incompetent. However, keep in mind that this is the POTUS you are referring to, which is the HIGHEST position anyone can achieve in this country, also a billionaire. If he was so incompetent, he wouldn't be where he is today!

Allow me to introduce you to, Herbert Hoover, successful Businessman, elected POTUS and an incompetent President.

The important question isn't Trump's general "competence" but his competence as POTUS and so far he isn't demonstrating much of it, primarily due to his penchant for publicly stepping on his own dick.

 

[ChrisL]

I don't know, but there was no way I was voting for a criminal, so I chose to vote for the asshole instead.

are you still satisfied with that choice?

He needs someone around to tell him when to STFU.