JakeStarkey
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I think a lot of the military would support the effort.
Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.
At issue is an article in the respected Small Wars Journal titled Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A Vision of the Future. It was written by retired Army Col. Kevin Benson of the Army's University of Foreign Military and Cultural Studies at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., and Jennifer Weber, a Civil War expert at the University of Kansas. It posits an extremist militia motivated by the goals of the tea party movement seizing control of Darlington, S.C., in 2016, occupying City Hall, disbanding the city council and placing the mayor under house arrest. The rebels set up checkpoints on Interstate 95 and Interstate 20 looking for illegal aliens. Its a cartoonish and needlessly provocative scenario.
The article is a choppy patchwork of doctrinal jargon and liberal nightmare. The authors make a quasi-legal case for military action and then apply the Armys Operating Concept 2016-2028 to the situation. They write bloodlessly that once it is put into play, Americans will expect the military to execute without pause and as professionally as if it were acting overseas. They claim that the Army cannot disappoint the American people, especially in such a moment, not pausing to consider that using such efficient, deadly force against U.S. citizens would create a monumental political backlash and severely erode government legitimacy.
The scenario presented in Small Wars Journal isnt a literary device but an operational lay-down intended to present the rationale and mechanisms for Americans to fight Americans. Col. Benson and Ms. Weber contend, Army officers are professionally obligated to consider the conduct of operations on U.S. soil. This is a dark, pessimistic and wrongheaded view of what military leaders should spend their time studying.
A professor at the Joint Forces Staff College was relieved of duty in June for uttering the heresy that the United States is at war with Islam. The Obama administration contended the professor had to be relieved because what he was teaching was not U.S. policy. Because there is no disclaimer attached to the Small Wars piece, it is fair to ask, at least in Col. Bensons case, whether his views reflect official policy regarding the use of U.S. military force against American citizens.
EDITORIAL: The Civil War of 2016 - Washington Times
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®
Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.
At issue is an article in the respected Small Wars Journal titled Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A Vision of the Future. It was written by retired Army Col. Kevin Benson of the Army's University of Foreign Military and Cultural Studies at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., and Jennifer Weber, a Civil War expert at the University of Kansas. It posits an extremist militia motivated by the goals of the tea party movement seizing control of Darlington, S.C., in 2016, occupying City Hall, disbanding the city council and placing the mayor under house arrest. The rebels set up checkpoints on Interstate 95 and Interstate 20 looking for illegal aliens. Its a cartoonish and needlessly provocative scenario.
The article is a choppy patchwork of doctrinal jargon and liberal nightmare. The authors make a quasi-legal case for military action and then apply the Armys Operating Concept 2016-2028 to the situation. They write bloodlessly that once it is put into play, Americans will expect the military to execute without pause and as professionally as if it were acting overseas. They claim that the Army cannot disappoint the American people, especially in such a moment, not pausing to consider that using such efficient, deadly force against U.S. citizens would create a monumental political backlash and severely erode government legitimacy.
The scenario presented in Small Wars Journal isnt a literary device but an operational lay-down intended to present the rationale and mechanisms for Americans to fight Americans. Col. Benson and Ms. Weber contend, Army officers are professionally obligated to consider the conduct of operations on U.S. soil. This is a dark, pessimistic and wrongheaded view of what military leaders should spend their time studying.
A professor at the Joint Forces Staff College was relieved of duty in June for uttering the heresy that the United States is at war with Islam. The Obama administration contended the professor had to be relieved because what he was teaching was not U.S. policy. Because there is no disclaimer attached to the Small Wars piece, it is fair to ask, at least in Col. Bensons case, whether his views reflect official policy regarding the use of U.S. military force against American citizens.
EDITORIAL: The Civil War of 2016 - Washington Times
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®
Obama said his plan "is working". I guess they are planning on having unemployment at 25 - 50 %, and more people living in poverty. It will only be after they slaughter the independent people over 65 (either at the social security offices or thru Obama care boards) that the younger, easier to manipulate crowd will fall on their knees and bow to the intellectual elites that plan on telling the American public when to jump and how high.
As long as we're kicking around unlikely hypotheticals, Jake, what would you do, if there were a non-violent popular uprising? No shooting, no bombing, just massive civil disobedience and non-cooperation on an unprecedented scale. That may be unlikely too, but it would arguably be easier to organize than an armed revolt. Going to send in the troops and start shooting people for that, too? I think you'd have a hard time with that.
No it isn't and right wing terrorists have nothing in common with the American Patriots
Oh really?
So libertarians are not patriots? really? where do they differ from the founders in ideology?
How are my fellow libertarian brothers and sisters different?
Yea keep on frivolously accusing me of pixie dust bullshit...
Libertarians would make real patriots puke
A real patriot has a stake in the game. Willing to give up all for a cause
Libertarians only care about themselves
Real American Patriots
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I see the bigrebnc is simply spamming a repeat loop of his deranged thinking, occasioned by his deranged drinking.
Got ya, reb.Step off, son.
He lives in a world fueled by cocaine paranoia.
Such accusations about Whineylittlereb.....but you may be onto something....
Don't be bitter because I can take your woman.
Question is, would the military fight for Obama when it's against American citizens ?
I know of several family members and friends who have discussed this sort of thing, and all of them pretty much are the same. There is no way they would do it.
It's a very tough call. An order is an order.
Question is, would the military fight for Obama when it's against American citizens ?
I know of several family members and friends who have discussed this sort of thing, and all of them pretty much are the same. There is no way they would do it.
It's a very tough call. An order is an order.
Oath Keepers » Oath Keepers Guardians of the Republic
Such accusations about Whineylittlereb.....but you may be onto something....
Don't be bitter because I can take your woman.
Ah, yes, but why would you want to. I'm guessing that mare's been rode hard and put away wet a few times to many to be of any great value.
It's a very tough call. An order is an order.
Oath Keepers » Oath Keepers Guardians of the Republic
Will the Oath Keepers stand against those factions declared "terrorist" by government, or will they direct their efforts against a terrorist government that would turn the military and law enforcement on the its citizens?
Will the Oath Keepers stand against those factions declared "terrorist" by government, or will they direct their efforts against a terrorist government that would turn the military and law enforcement on the its citizens?
If they turn agaiinst their government they will be traitors and treated as such
What has gotten the Oath Keepers all fired up?
Its not confiscating weapons....its healthcare. They are ready to revolt against their country because of mandatory healthcare