The Civil War

[Unkotare]

Virginia was a part of the United States of America before, during, and after the Civil War.

The so-called 'confederacy' was never a legal or legitimate sovereign entity, nor was it EVER recognized as such by ANY nation on earth.

The scumbag criminals of the so-called 'confederacy' started the war and were responsible for EVERY death that occurred as a result.

Slavery was the issue underlying every factor that led to the war.

Repeating a lie doesn't make it stop being a lie.
......

Then maybe you should stop.

 

[kaz]

Virginia was a part of the United States of America before, during, and after the Civil War.

The so-called 'confederacy' was never a legal or legitimate sovereign entity, nor was it EVER recognized as such by ANY nation on earth.

The scumbag criminals of the so-called 'confederacy' started the war and were responsible for EVERY death that occurred as a result.

Slavery was the issue underlying every factor that led to the war.

Repeating a lie doesn't make it stop being a lie.
......

Then maybe you should stop.

It's Unkotare, aka Captain Playground!

 

[Flash]

The South Was Right!...

In summation,

In 1860, Abraham Lincoln was elected President of the United States - of all 33 United States.

Lincoln deployed United States troops on United States soil to suppress a regional rebellion within the United States, in strict compliance with his Oath of Office. The rebellious states cited their determination to perpetuate slavery as their excuse, the demand of special interests within them.

No nation on earth ever recognized a sovereign nation calling itself "The Confederate States of America" that was an attempt to deprive Americans within their state borders of their United States citizenship.

Those who attacked the United States from within exacted an enormous price upon the nation, but were defeated and the Union was preserved.

Secession was not war.

Secession was a political act. That piece of shit Lincoln made it a war.

After the war Jefferson Davis was arrested and held in prison pending a trial on insurrection.

However, he was released before the trial.

The reason is that his defense was that secession was legal under the Constitution and the filthy ass Union government didn't want him to win. He had a really strong case.

 

[kaz]

Would you prefer I just call you a fucking liar? You really are making yourself look stupid with this approach.

Still can't name this "lie," huh? Of course you can't, I didn't lie, you are

 

[Unkotare]

Virginia was a part of the United States of America before, during, and after the Civil War.

The so-called 'confederacy' was never a legal or legitimate sovereign entity, nor was it EVER recognized as such by ANY nation on earth.

The scumbag criminals of the so-called 'confederacy' started the war and were responsible for EVERY death that occurred as a result.

Slavery was the issue underlying every factor that led to the war.

 

[Unkotare]

..... Lincoln made it a war.
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The so-called 'confederate' criminals made it a war by an act of war, stupid.

 

[gipper]

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Lot's of people have claimed otherwise, especially at the time. ......

What country ever recognized the so-called 'confederacy' as a sovereign nation?

The Confederate States of America did(CSA).
.....

That was not a country. It was a criminal enterprise that was rightfully crushed.

Yep, just like those traitorous Japanese Americans FDR rightfully imprisoned. They were criminals after all.

 

[Unkotare]

.....he was released before the trial.

The reason is ....

The reason was that the criminal received mercy he didn't deserve because there was a desire to heal the nation and move on.

 

[schmidlap]

The South Was Right!...

In summation,

In 1860, Abraham Lincoln was elected President of the United States - of all 33 United States.

Lincoln deployed United States troops on United States soil to suppress a regional rebellion within the United States, in strict compliance with his Oath of Office. The rebellious states cited their determination to perpetuate slavery as their excuse, the demand of special interests within them.

No nation on earth ever recognized a sovereign nation calling itself "The Confederate States of America" that was an attempt to deprive Americans within their state borders of their United States citizenship.

Those who attacked the United States from within exacted an enormous price upon the nation, but were defeated and the Union was preserved.

Secession was not war.

Secession was a political act. That piece of shit Lincoln made it a war.

After the war Jefferson Davis was arrested and held in prison pending a trial on insurrection.

However, he was released before the trial.

The reason is that his defense was that secession was legal under the Constitution and the filthy ass Union government didn't want him to win. He had a really strong case.

An influential special interest group that had profited through slavery provoked a violent insurrection against the United States that attempted to deprive Americans of their United States citizenship.

It failed and the Union was preserved.

 

[Flash]

The Civil War in a nutshell:

Some Americans got tired of the filthy Federal Government oppressing them and told the Union to cram it where the sun don't shine.

The filthy Union decided to kill the Americans and sent armies to do it.

The good guys lost and the filthy ass Federal government that won evolved into a bloated oppressive debt ridden corrupt system that saps Liberty.

The Confederacy was the last hope of real Liberty in North America and the world.

 

[rac123]

The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?

Ya they do deny the Nazi murder machine.
And of course for the Slave owners it was all about keeping their slaves. They dressed it up in the bullshit of protecting the honor of the south and willing fools who didn’t even own or could afford slaves laid down their lives to protect the wealth machine if the aristocratic southern slave owners. The rich have always been able to fools to do their fighting for them , just like the INSURRECTIONIST who fought for trump and risked everything for him only to have trump abandoned them. NO PARDONS FOR trump’s LOYAL SOLDIERS. trump has the $300,000,000.00 that his loyal base gave him for his phony stop the steal campaign and trump could use that money to pay the INSURRECTIONIST legal expenses. Don’t hold your breath on that folks. Yet these duped trumpians will continue to rhetorically fight for trump while their fellow Patriots languish in jail.
GO FIGURE!

 

[Flash]

Cause of the Civil War in a nutshell:

Northerners: "Hey those Southern boys have more cash than we do so lets use the Federal government to get some".

Southerners: "Fuck you".

 

[rac123]

The Civil War in a nutshell:

Some Americans got tired of the filthy Federal Government oppressing them and told the Union to cram it where the sun don't shine.

The filthy Union decided to kill the Americans and sent armies to do it.

The good guys lost and the filthy ass Federal government that won evolved into a bloated oppressive debt ridden corrupt system that saps Liberty.

The Confederacy was the last hope of real Liberty in North America and the world.

It was actually the IMMORALITY of the south’s desired for profit to maintain their southern estates without having to break a sweat to work for it own their own. And it was also the desire of poor whites who in their hearts wanted to feel like at least they were at the bottom of the social ladder. And indeed they were told that ( even though you may be poor at least your not a blank). And if anyone doesn’t think that that wasn’t the rhetorical tool used to get poor whites to fight and die for the wealth of the aristocratic slave owners, then your foolishness is omnipresent.

 

[kaz]

Not knowing what he's talking about, Unkotare just spews a bunch of BS

Virginia was a part of the United States of America before, during, and after the Civil War.

Irrelevant to consent of the governed. Did you look up what it means yet since up until now you didn't know?

As for "during and after," that's a logical fallacy called "begging the question." I'll let you look up what that means

The so-called 'confederacy' was never a legal or legitimate sovereign entity, nor was it EVER recognized as such by ANY nation on earth.

Again you don't know American history. Government legitimacy is specifically defined as "consent of the governed," which the US clearly didn't have in Virginia. Argument fail

The scumbag criminals of the so-called 'confederacy' started the war and were responsible for EVERY death that occurred as a result.

Slavery was the issue underlying every factor that led to the war.

Morality is a different question. Consent of the government is about government legitimacy, it's not an all encompassing morality question

 

[rac123]

Cause of the Civil War in a nutshell:

Northerners: "Hey those Southern boys have more cash than we do so lets use the Federal government to get some".

Southerners: "Fuck you".

perhaps you should try reading a bit of Abraham Lincoln’s speeches if you really want to know why the civil war became impossible to avoid. Southern plantation owners even considered moving their operations south of the border , did you know that? So we’re the notion of ( SOUTHERN HONOR ) in that equation?

Abraham Lincoln “ If I could end slavery without waging this conflict, I would do so, if I could save the Union without ending slavery , I would do so.”
Without having his speech in front of me I had to paraphrase but that’s what he said.
Yes Lincoln hated slavery with every fiber of his Nobel soul, but “ A HOUSE DIVIDED CAN NOT STAND.” Dirt poor southerners were sold a line of crap a mile long and two miles wide just like trumpians have been.
We’re the PARDONS for fellow PATRIOTS WHO FOUGHT FOR trump. WHY ISNT trump USING THE $300,000,000.00 you guys gave him for his phony stop the steal campaign to pay your fellow Patriots legal expenses. The poor always March to the rich man’s designs and for the rich man’s profits.

 

[Unkotare]

The South Was Right!...

In summation,

In 1860, Abraham Lincoln was elected President of the United States - of all 33 United States.

Lincoln deployed United States troops on United States soil to suppress a regional rebellion within the United States, in strict compliance with his Oath of Office. The rebellious states cited their determination to perpetuate slavery as their excuse, the demand of special interests within them.

No nation on earth ever recognized a sovereign nation calling itself "The Confederate States of America" that was an attempt to deprive Americans within their state borders of their United States citizenship.

Those who attacked the United States from within exacted an enormous price upon the nation, but were defeated and the Union was preserved.

Secession was not war.

Secession was a political act. That piece of shit Lincoln made it a war.

After the war Jefferson Davis was arrested and held in prison pending a trial on insurrection.

However, he was released before the trial.

The reason is that his defense was that secession was legal under the Constitution and the filthy ass Union government didn't want him to win. He had a really strong case.

An influential special interest group that had profited through slavery provoked a violent insurrection against the United States that attempted to deprive Americans of their United States citizenship.

It failed and the Union was preserved.

^^^^^^^^

 

[Unkotare]

Virginia was a part of the United States of America before, during, and after the Civil War.

The so-called 'confederacy' was never a legal or legitimate sovereign entity, nor was it EVER recognized as such by ANY nation on earth.

The scumbag criminals of the so-called 'confederacy' started the war and were responsible for EVERY death that occurred as a result.

Slavery was the issue underlying every factor that led to the war.

 

[bripat9643]

.....he was released before the trial.

The reason is ....

The reason was that the criminal received mercy he didn't deserve because there was a desire to heal the nation and move on.

Hmmm, no. The reason was that there's no way he could get a conviction on the charge of treason, and they knew it.

 

[bripat9643]

Virginia was a part of the United States of America before, during, and after the Civil War.

The so-called 'confederacy' was never a legal or legitimate sovereign entity, nor was it EVER recognized as such by ANY nation on earth.

The scumbag criminals of the so-called 'confederacy' started the war and were responsible for EVERY death that occurred as a result.

Slavery was the issue underlying every factor that led to the war.

The Confederacy was just as legal as the United States was. Lincoln started the war by invading Virginia, moron.

 

[Unkotare]

.....he was released before the trial.

The reason is ....

The reason was that the criminal received mercy he didn't deserve because there was a desire to heal the nation and move on.