The Clinton Administration Was "ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN" That Saddam Hussein Had WMDs

[NYcarbineer]

Faulty intelligence may have led the Clinton Administration to believe Saddam had WMD - but Clinton didn't invade Iraq. The Bush boys did - TWICE.

Righties can spin it all they want - but THEY OWN IT. Does anyone remember how pissed off Democrats were after they realized Dubya had lied to them? I do...

Much to her credit, or discredit, Speaker Pelosi said impeachment was off the table.

Also, 9/11 happened on Dubya's watch...

You kill me, really. This partisan hackery is amazing. It's 'faulty intelligence" for Clinton and company-- As I can quote them till 2003 claiming they had WMD's but for Bush "it's lies", not faulty intell. Or actually believeing Clinton's and Company's lies? Should Bush have ignored their 'lies"? Guess so, eh?

Democrat Quotes on WMD

snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes

You nailed it. Clinton's faulty intelligence simply morphed into Bush's lies. When Liberals site Clinton's faulty intelligence, why or how was it faulty? Could it be that his administration chose to reduce Defense and Intel spending leading up to his departure in January 2001? Look at the Intel infrastructure Bush inherited! Contrast that with the Intel infrastructure Obama inherited. Obama will complain about the economy he inherited. Bush inherited both a poor economy and poor intel infrastructure. By 2005, Saddam was taken out, many key Al Qaeda were captured or killed, unemployment was 4.5 percent, and the US Treasury was experiencing its largest net revenue gain ever ($26.5 B.....some might call "a profit.")

That's the funniest post of the week so far.

Bush inherited 4.0% unemployment and a budget surplus.

 

[healthmyths]

Faulty intelligence may have led the Clinton Administration to believe Saddam had WMD - but Clinton didn't invade Iraq. The Bush boys did - TWICE.

Righties can spin it all they want - but THEY OWN IT. Does anyone remember how pissed off Democrats were after they realized Dubya had lied to them? I do...

Much to her credit, or discredit, Speaker Pelosi said impeachment was off the table.

Also, 9/11 happened on Dubya's watch...

You kill me, really. This partisan hackery is amazing. It's 'faulty intelligence" for Clinton and company-- As I can quote them till 2003 claiming they had WMD's but for Bush "it's lies", not faulty intell. Or actually believeing Clinton's and Company's lies? Should Bush have ignored their 'lies"? Guess so, eh?

Democrat Quotes on WMD

snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes

You nailed it. Clinton's faulty intelligence simply morphed into Bush's lies. When Liberals site Clinton's faulty intelligence, why or how was it faulty? Could it be that his administration chose to reduce Defense and Intel spending leading up to his departure in January 2001? Look at the Intel infrastructure Bush inherited! Contrast that with the Intel infrastructure Obama inherited. Obama will complain about the economy he inherited. Bush inherited both a poor economy and poor intel infrastructure. By 2005, Saddam was taken out, many key Al Qaeda were captured or killed, unemployment was 4.5 percent, and the US Treasury was experiencing its largest net revenue gain ever ($26.5 B.....some might call "a profit.")

AND all these BUSH BASHERS are ignoring the 4 MAJOR events that is today costing $100 billion a year in Federal tax revenue!
1)Dot.com bust cost $5 trillion in losses and 300,000 jobs
2) 9/11 cost $2 trillion in businesses, market airlines closed 3 days.. Wall st closed 10 day and 145,000 jobs!
3) Worst Hurricane SEASONS not hurricanes SEASONS in history $1 trillion losses and 400,000 jobs lost.
4) 9/18/08 Economic terrorist attack with $500 billion taken out of $4 trillion Money market that CAUSED everyone to be concerned about the WORLD's economy collapsing!

And in spite of these worst events ANY President has encountered..

When Bush started 131,785,000 people employed.
At the end of 2008 136,790,000 people employed or 5,000,000 more then when he took office!

When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
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A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION !

AND ALL of this in spite of the biased Bush Bashing MSM!!!

Well, our job is to bash the president, that's what we do." --
Evan Thomas responding to a question on whether the media's unfair to Bush on the TV talk show Inside Washington,
February 2, 2007.Newsweek's Evan Thomas: 'Our Job Is To Bash the President' | NewsBusters

But Obama????

I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God."
Evan Thomas on Hardball, June 5, 2009.
Newsweek?s Evan Thomas: Obama Is ?Sort of God? | NewsBusters

 

[healthmyths]

Clinton didn't invade Iraq. Bush did.

AND 9/11 was caused by Clinton's coverup of his selling missile secrets to the Chinese for donations that the Gorelick Memo prevented the CIA from sharing this with the FBI!

As a result the CIA knew the 9/11 bombers were in the USA but they couldn't share with the FBI because of the "GORELICK MEMO"!


As the No. 2 person in the Clinton Justice Department, Ms. Gorelick rejected advice from the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, who warned against placing more limits on communications between law-enforcement officials and prosecutors pursuing counterterrorism cases, according to several internal documents written in summer 1995.

Memos show Gorelick involvement in 'wall' - Washington Times

 

[healthmyths]

One argument used above "Clinton didn't invade Iraq"...
And that is so correct!
What he did was for years abide the continual breaking of the 1991 Cease fire " was simply the cause of 9/11!

When he continued to ignore Saddam, this embolden the terrorists to such a degree that it is a well known fact,

Iraq under Saddam supported international terrorist organizations to bolster Iraq's revolutionary credentials, ensure his own role as Great Arab leader, and intimidate rival governments. In examining the history, methods, and patterns of behavior of Saddam Husayn in supporting international terrorism, some "truths" stand out. Beginning in the early 1970s, Saddam provided safe haven, training, arms, and other forms of assistance to Palestinian and Arab extremists. Baghdad hosted the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO), the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP), and the Hawari faction of the PLO. In addition, Baghdad created the Arab Liberation Front (ALF) as its personal surrogate in the wars against Israel. Although the ALF conducted no terrorist operations, Saddam used it in the 1970s and resurrected it again in the current Palestinian intifada as a means to recruit Palestinians and, in 2001, to win praise for offering $25,000 to the family of each Palestinian "martyred" in an Israeli attack.
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

But because Clinton who actually had Osama bin Laden presented to him in On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role
Bill Clinton denies it now, but he once admitted he passed up an opportunity to extradite Osama bin Laden.
On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role

 

[BlindBoo]

So? How many soldiers were killed when Clinton ordered his invasion and occupation of Iraq?

Zero.

So why did Bush Ignore the head of the CIA in Sept. of 2002 when he was breifed that Saddam had no WMD? Why wasn't Congress given this information?

 

[BlindBoo]

One argument used above "Clinton didn't invade Iraq"...
And that is so correct!
What he did was for years abide the continual breaking of the 1991 Cease fire " was simply the cause of 9/11!

When he continued to ignore Saddam, this embolden the terrorists to such a degree that it is a well known fact,

Iraq under Saddam supported international terrorist organizations to bolster Iraq's revolutionary credentials, ensure his own role as Great Arab leader, and intimidate rival governments. In examining the history, methods, and patterns of behavior of Saddam Husayn in supporting international terrorism, some "truths" stand out. Beginning in the early 1970s, Saddam provided safe haven, training, arms, and other forms of assistance to Palestinian and Arab extremists. Baghdad hosted the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO), the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP), and the Hawari faction of the PLO. In addition, Baghdad created the Arab Liberation Front (ALF) as its personal surrogate in the wars against Israel. Although the ALF conducted no terrorist operations, Saddam used it in the 1970s and resurrected it again in the current Palestinian intifada as a means to recruit Palestinians and, in 2001, to win praise for offering $25,000 to the family of each Palestinian "martyred" in an Israeli attack.
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

But because Clinton who actually had Osama bin Laden presented to him in On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role
Bill Clinton denies it now, but he once admitted he passed up an opportunity to extradite Osama bin Laden.
On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role

Sorry champ, Clinton dropped nearly as many bombs on Iraq than GWHB did during the first war. Cliniton continued and expanded the UN Sanctions on Iraq and denied him the ability to rebuild his conventional armies as well as reconstitute his WMD programs.

Furthermore, Clinton did more to fight terrorism than any president before him. Nearly all of his foriegn policy speeched focused on stopping international terrorism.

 

[Mac1958]

.

Trying to spin away from Bush's war. He put us in there, he's responsible, tough shit.

Thousands of young American soldiers dead. Many thousands more permanently damaged. Many thousands of young American families destroyed. Many thousands of American children who will never see Mom or Dad again. Trillions of borrowed dollars wasted.

It's yours. Admit it. Own it. All yours.

.

 

[LeftofLeft]

You kill me, really. This partisan hackery is amazing. It's 'faulty intelligence" for Clinton and company-- As I can quote them till 2003 claiming they had WMD's but for Bush "it's lies", not faulty intell. Or actually believeing Clinton's and Company's lies? Should Bush have ignored their 'lies"? Guess so, eh?

Democrat Quotes on WMD

snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes

You nailed it. Clinton's faulty intelligence simply morphed into Bush's lies. When Liberals site Clinton's faulty intelligence, why or how was it faulty? Could it be that his administration chose to reduce Defense and Intel spending leading up to his departure in January 2001? Look at the Intel infrastructure Bush inherited! Contrast that with the Intel infrastructure Obama inherited. Obama will complain about the economy he inherited. Bush inherited both a poor economy and poor intel infrastructure. By 2005, Saddam was taken out, many key Al Qaeda were captured or killed, unemployment was 4.5 percent, and the US Treasury was experiencing its largest net revenue gain ever ($26.5 B.....some might call "a profit.")

That's the funniest post of the week so far.

Bush inherited 4.0% unemployment and a budget surplus.

While Bush inherited a 4.0 unemployment, we were attacked 9 months later. driving Unemployment back up to just under 6 percent. By Jan 2007, he brought it back down to just over 4 percent. Democrats took the Hill a month later and the Oval Office a year later and we have been at 8.0 + ever since. Regarding the surplus, can you site which if any year the national debt was Zero or positive? Clinton's last Budget, year-ended 09/30/2001 resulted in a $133B deficit.

 

[konradv]

I have a question for those who claim there never any WMD's in Iraq.
What did Saddam use on the Kurds and the Iranians?

Who's claiming there were never any WMDs in Iraq? The claim is that they were eliminated after the first Gulf War. As a matter of fact, that claim was made by Colin Powell and Condaleeza Rice in early 2001. They however quickly changed their tune when their boss decided he wanted to invade. If they were really there, why not let the inspectors finish their job and prove it/ bush tiold them to get out because he knew the reports of large stockpiles was a lie.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

32 democrat quotes indicate even before GWB that Saddam was a threat!

"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.



"Between 1999 and 2001, the U.S. and British-led air forces in Iraq dropped 1.3 million pounds of bombs in response to purported violations of the no-fly zones and anti-aircraft fire from Saddam Hussein.

A sweeping attack, conducted in January of 1999, rained down 25 missiles on Iraqi soil, killing civilians. Clinton said the attack was in response to four planes violating the no-fly zones.

Clinton and British Prime Minister Tony Blair authorized air strikes on more than 100 days in 1999, sometimes several times per day. The bombings were ostensibly in response to Hussein�s refusal to allow UN weapons inspectors into the country, though critics alleged the move was aimed at deflecting attention from impeachment.
The Raw Story | Clinton bombing of Iraq far exceeded Bush's in run-up to war; Bush 'spikes of activity' questioned

AND..
"When Clinton was here recently he told me he was absolutely convinced, given his years in the White House and the access to privileged information which he had, that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction until the end of the Saddam regime," he said in an interview with Portuguese cable news channel SIC Noticias.
Clinton believes Iraq had weapons of mass destruction: Portugal PM

This is more history than politics, but...

your ignorance and misrepresentation of everything would be hilarious if it didn't go to the heart of what is wrong with the education leval and intellectual standards of the right wing in America

Where the f...k are the "MISREPRESENTATIONS"?????

These are the exact words of the people that said them!
NOT my opinion. NOT my words but the people said them I didn't!
So how in the hell are you saying am MISREPRESENTING " them?

THEY SAID THOSE WORDS!
Clinton said NOT ME these words.. "he was absolutely convinced, given his years in the White House and the access to privileged information which he had, that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction until the end of the Saddam regime"

You owe me an apology because YOU are totally making up an allegation with absolutely NO MERIT!

proof any Complete Moron with an internet connection to the web can take any word or groups of words out of context and build a case for or against anyone and anything.

America needs citizens with basic skill sets in civics and critical thinking. You are an example of why

thank you

 

[healthmyths]

So? How many soldiers were killed when Clinton ordered his invasion and occupation of Iraq?

Zero.

So why did Bush Ignore the head of the CIA in Sept. of 2002 when he was breifed that Saddam had no WMD? Why wasn't Congress given this information?

"breifed" ?

First..
How complicated is it to EVEN when there is a little red dotted line "......." under the misspelled word YOU are too lazy to correct?

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers.
Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam's inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIA among those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.


Shakesville: Bush Knew There Were No WMD's in Iraq

HAHAHAHA!!!
So Tenet uses the word of the Iraqi foreign minister a member of Saddam's inner circle who says..
"we don't have no stinking WMDs..? Why don't you believe me?"

So Tenet believes this guy???

Of course not!
Suskind reports that the head of Iraqi intelligence, Tahir Jalil Habbush, met secretly with British intelligence in Jordan in the early days of 2003.
In weekly meetings with Michael Shipster, the British director of Iraqi operations,
Habbush conveyed that Iraq had no active nuclear, chemical or biological weapons programs and no stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction."
Author: Bush knew Iraq had no WMD - TODAY News - TODAY.com

WHY then if they had none would they NOT let the inspectors to verify ???
Resolution 687 states that Iraq must destroy its presumed stockpile of WMD, and the means to produce them. It also limits the country's ballistic missile capability.
Resolution 715 Demands Compliance ::: Oct. 11, 1991
So why did he do that if there were no WMDs???

Responding to Iraq's consistent efforts to interrupt or block inspection teams, the U.N. Security Council passes Resolution 715. The resolution says Iraq must "accept unconditionally the inspectors and all other personnel designated by the Special Commission".

Defensive' Biological Weapons ::: May 1992
Iraq officially admits to having had a "defensive" biological weapons program. Weeks later, UNSCOM begins the destruction of Iraq's chemical weapons program. Progress is halted in July when Iraq refuses an inspection team access to the Ministry of Agriculture.

Bush said: Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward America and to support terror. The Iraqi regime has plotted to develop anthrax and nerve gas and nuclear weapons for over a decade … This is a regime that has something to hide from the civilized world."

DO any of you idiots REMEMBER the ANTHRAX attacks RIGHT after 9/11 but of course if you do with your 20/20 hindsight what do you say???
BUT no one knew and what other dictator in the world was refusing inspectors???

No 'Smoking Guns' ::: Jan. 9, 2003
UNMOVIC's Hans Blix and the IAEA's Director General Mohamed ElBaradei report their findings to the U.N. Security Council. Blix says inspectors have not found any "smoking guns" in Iraq. ElBaradei reports that aluminum tubes suspected by the U.S. to be components for uranium enrichment are more likely to be parts for rockets, as the Iraqis claim. John Negroponte, U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., says:
"There is still no evidence that Iraq has fundamentally changed its approach from one of deceit to a genuine attempt to be forthcoming in meeting the council's demand that it disarm."

Bush..."These are not the actions of a regime that is disarming. These are the actions of a regime engaged in a willful charade. These are the actions of a regime that systematically and deliberately is defying the world."

IDIOTS ... if Saddam didn't want to be removed why didn't he let the inspectors inspect is what Bush is saying!
Why was he hiding all of this????

Iraq WMD Timeline: How the Mystery Unraveled : NPR

So you would though take the word of the inner circle foreign minister though right??
HOW MANY BRIDGES have you bought???

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The Clinton Administration Was "ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN" That Saddam Hussein Had WMDs

Face the facts.

Your boys fucked-up.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejph4LBdmmc]WMD LIES - Bush Cheney Rumsfeld etc. - THE ULTIMATE CLIP - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[Sallow]

President Clinton invaded Iraq, when, exactly?

 

[healthmyths]

I have a question for those who claim there never any WMD's in Iraq.
What did Saddam use on the Kurds and the Iranians?

Who's claiming there were never any WMDs in Iraq? The claim is that they were eliminated after the first Gulf War. As a matter of fact, that claim was made by Colin Powell and Condaleeza Rice in early 2001. They however quickly changed their tune when their boss decided he wanted to invade. If they were really there, why not let the inspectors finish their job and prove it/ bush tiold them to get out because he knew the reports of large stockpiles was a lie.

So if there were NO WMDs.. why did Saddam continuously refuse inspectors?
If he was a "peace-loving" Dictator so loved by his people 100% voted for him for President!
As a result of the Peace loving Saddam with his sons using electric drills and raping women why wouldn't he allow inspectors...

 

[Sallow]

President Bush is the first president in my lifetime that didn't take full ownership of a war.

Conservatives must be real proud of him.

 

[Sallow]

I have a question for those who claim there never any WMD's in Iraq.
What did Saddam use on the Kurds and the Iranians?

Who's claiming there were never any WMDs in Iraq? The claim is that they were eliminated after the first Gulf War. As a matter of fact, that claim was made by Colin Powell and Condaleeza Rice in early 2001. They however quickly changed their tune when their boss decided he wanted to invade. If they were really there, why not let the inspectors finish their job and prove it/ bush tiold them to get out because he knew the reports of large stockpiles was a lie.

So if there were NO WMDs.. why did Saddam continuously refuse inspectors?
If he was a "peace-loving" Dictator so loved by his people 100% voted for him for President!
As a result of the Peace loving Saddam with his sons using electric drills and raping women.

1. Several reasons. First and foremost were they were CIA embedded with the inspectors.
2. What? What does that even mean?
3. Is this something unique among the multitudes of US backed dictators?

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Faulty intelligence may have led the Clinton Administration to believe Saddam had WMD - but Clinton didn't invade Iraq. The Bush boys did - TWICE.

Righties can spin it all they want - but THEY OWN IT. Does anyone remember how pissed off Democrats were after they realized Dubya had lied to them? I do...

Much to her credit, or discredit, Speaker Pelosi said impeachment was off the table.

Also, 9/11 happened on Dubya's watch...

Yup, and not one fucking Republican has held Condoleeza Rice's stinky feet to the fire for dismissing reports about "....Osama bin Laden intent on attacking America..." in August 2001. Not one.

 

[Sallow]

Faulty intelligence may have led the Clinton Administration to believe Saddam had WMD - but Clinton didn't invade Iraq. The Bush boys did - TWICE.

Righties can spin it all they want - but THEY OWN IT. Does anyone remember how pissed off Democrats were after they realized Dubya had lied to them? I do...

Much to her credit, or discredit, Speaker Pelosi said impeachment was off the table.

Also, 9/11 happened on Dubya's watch...

Yup, and not one fucking Republican has held Condoleeza Rice's stinky feet to the fire for dismissing reports about "....Osama bin Laden intent on attacking America..." in August 2001. Not one.

Or her mushroom cloud comment..

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I have a question for those who claim there never any WMD's in Iraq.
What did Saddam use on the Kurds and the Iranians?

Who's claiming there were never any WMDs in Iraq? The claim is that they were eliminated after the first Gulf War. As a matter of fact, that claim was made by Colin Powell and Condaleeza Rice in early 2001. They however quickly changed their tune when their boss decided he wanted to invade. If they were really there, why not let the inspectors finish their job and prove it/ bush tiold them to get out because he knew the reports of large stockpiles was a lie.

So if there were NO WMDs.. why did Saddam continuously refuse inspectors?

'Cause he KNEW what would happen, if Lil' Dumbya thought he was "unarmed"????

.....And, people wonder why Iran wants a nuke?????​

 

[Redfish]

IMPEACH CLINTON------------oh wait, we already did that.