The ‘dark side’ of capitalism

[Antares]

Socialism is not marxism, for 80 years now. I know it's damn hard to hear the truth in the US about it...Socialism is DEMOCRATIC. Communism is not. Fascism is RW, with corporations and capitalism. The terms "National Socialism and USSR is called PROPAGANDA, dingbat dupes.

God you are stupid.

In Marxist theory, socialism (also called lower-stage communism or the socialist mode of production) refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that supersede capitalism in the schema of historical materialism. Socialism is defined as a mode of production where the sole criterion for production is use-value and therefore the law of value no longer directs economic activity.Production for use is coordinated through consciouseconomic planning, while distribution of economic output is based on the principle of To each according to his contribution. The social relations of socialism are characterized by the working-class effectively owning themeans of production and the means of their livelihood, either through cooperative enterprises or by public ownership and self management, so that the social surplus accrues to the working class and society as a whole.[1]

I don't give a shytte what Marxist Doctrine says- it's totally discredited except among communists and cold war dinosaurs. Socialism is well regulated,fair capitalism- see Scandinavia, and all modern countries including US, but ours is still run by greedy idiot Pubs and hater dupes. See trickle down tax rates and policies.

You are an idiot franco,go play with the little kids.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

In conservative theory: Holding an investment banker accountable for stealing your nest-egg is socialism as well as anything else that gives a regular person any power to hold Big Money accountable for their actions.

That is absolutely false. Only an imbecile would make such claim.

There is no such theory in American principle (Conservatism).

The Ideological Left has been in power for six years... cite ONE 'INVESTMENT BANKER' that has been held accountable for their crimes in all that time.

LOL! You people can't even hold yourselves accountable...

 

[bripat9643]

Socialism is not marxism, for 80 years now. I know it's damn hard to hear the truth in the US about it...Socialism is DEMOCRATIC. Communism is not. Fascism is RW, with corporations and capitalism. The terms "National Socialism and USSR is called PROPAGANDA, dingbat dupes.

Sorry, that's just plain bullshit. There's no law of economics that says socialism has to be democratic. That's pure socialist propaganda, and nothing more.

 

[bripat9643]

Socialism is not marxism, for 80 years now. I know it's damn hard to hear the truth in the US about it...Socialism is DEMOCRATIC. Communism is not. Fascism is RW, with corporations and capitalism. The terms "National Socialism and USSR is called PROPAGANDA, dingbat dupes.

God you are stupid.

In Marxist theory, socialism (also called lower-stage communism or the socialist mode of production) refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that supersede capitalism in the schema of historical materialism. Socialism is defined as a mode of production where the sole criterion for production is use-value and therefore the law of value no longer directs economic activity.Production for use is coordinated through consciouseconomic planning, while distribution of economic output is based on the principle of To each according to his contribution. The social relations of socialism are characterized by the working-class effectively owning themeans of production and the means of their livelihood, either through cooperative enterprises or by public ownership and self management, so that the social surplus accrues to the working class and society as a whole.[1]

I don't give a shytte what Marxist Doctrine says- it's totally discredited except among communists and cold war dinosaurs. Socialism is well regulated,fair capitalism- see Scandinavia, and all modern countries including US, but ours is still run by greedy idiot Pubs and hater dupes. See trickle down tax rates and policies.

Although you may not realize it, all the socialists in this forum, including you, are constantly spouting Marxist doctrine.

 

[Contumacious]

Capitalism is at best amoral if not downright evil at times and is therefore totally at odds with christian teachings.

Bullshit.

The thread should have been titled

The ‘dark side’ of FASCISM.

Splitting hairs over what is and isn't the correct form of capitalism is a meaningless exercise. The world does not run on any purist philosophy and cannot be made to run on expectations that defy human nature. People want money and will do anything to get it and worry about the harm they do later, much later.

Really?


In that case blame fascism.

There is only one correct form which does not apply to the US.

Now it is true that people will do anything to get money , but obtaining money through a criminal activity or fraud is not Capitalism.


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How do you prevent criminal activity? That's right, you watch them like a hawk and punish wrong doing. It's called regulation, you might have heard of it. Our financial markets especially are high crime areas and you want to send the cops home.

Mr dingle berry, sir

The former USSR had a massive police state force dominated by the KGB - that agency could not keep up with the numerous black market transactions which occurred on a daily basis.

So shut the fuck up and try to learn from history.

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[Contumacious]

Socialism is not marxism, for 80 years now. I know it's damn hard to hear the truth in the US about it...Socialism is DEMOCRATIC. Communism is not. Fascism is RW, with corporations and capitalism. The terms "National Socialism and USSR is called PROPAGANDA, dingbat dupes.

God you are stupid.

In Marxist theory, socialism (also called lower-stage communism or the socialist mode of production) refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that supersede capitalism in the schema of historical materialism. Socialism is defined as a mode of production where the sole criterion for production is use-value and therefore the law of value no longer directs economic activity.Production for use is coordinated through consciouseconomic planning, while distribution of economic output is based on the principle of To each according to his contribution. The social relations of socialism are characterized by the working-class effectively owning themeans of production and the means of their livelihood, either through cooperative enterprises or by public ownership and self management, so that the social surplus accrues to the working class and society as a whole.[1]

I don't give a shytte what Marxist Doctrine says- it's totally discredited except among communists and cold war dinosaurs. Socialism is well regulated,fair capitalism- see Scandinavia, and all modern countries including US, but ours is still run by greedy idiot Pubs and hater dupes. See trickle down tax rates and policies.

Mr Fucktard, sir

Under socialism , all the means of production are owned by the state and economic planning is done centrally. That does not work - look at Cuba, the former USSR. How the fuck are low life motherfucking bureaucrats going to determine how many vehicles will be needed in the year 2015., TV's? Condoms?

Shut the fuck up.


.

 

[occupied]

In conservative theory: Holding an investment banker accountable for stealing your nest-egg is socialism as well as anything else that gives a regular person any power to hold Big Money accountable for their actions.

That is absolutely false. Only an imbecile would make such claim.

There is no such theory in American principle (Conservatism).

The Ideological Left has been in power for six years... cite ONE 'INVESTMENT BANKER' that has been held accountable for their crimes in all that time.

LOL! You people can't even hold yourselves accountable...

The claim is demonstrably true, didn't see any move by republicans to hold anyone accountable, their bullshit story is that it was all the government's fault as well as putting up a tremendous fight against any piece of new regulation to prevent a recurrence of the great recession. The democrats were little better, crafting legislative band-aids to cover the gaping wound of our economy. The left, the real left, would have it different, do like some other countries that actually did investigations and prosecuted wrongdoing with the standards that one would use for someone who robbed a bank with a gun instead of using their position at said bank. America absolutely sucks balls at punishing white-collar crime.

 

[francoHFW]

Capitalism is savage unless well regulated and fair. Then it's socialism, cold war dinosaur dingbats.

So you support Marxism?

Sound to me like he supports not being fucked over by big business because there is no one to tell them they cannot fuck people over. If being able to expect fairness from the faceless corporations we all do business with is socialism then we need more of that.

Nope he supports a free ride for himself and everyone else.

That's just a stupid insult, Pubtroll. What happened to calling me a wetback" lol

 

[occupied]

Capitalism is at best amoral if not downright evil at times and is therefore totally at odds with christian teachings.

Bullshit.

The thread should have been titled

The ‘dark side’ of FASCISM.

Splitting hairs over what is and isn't the correct form of capitalism is a meaningless exercise. The world does not run on any purist philosophy and cannot be made to run on expectations that defy human nature. People want money and will do anything to get it and worry about the harm they do later, much later.

Really?


In that case blame fascism.

There is only one correct form which does not apply to the US.

Now it is true that people will do anything to get money , but obtaining money through a criminal activity or fraud is not Capitalism.


.

How do you prevent criminal activity? That's right, you watch them like a hawk and punish wrong doing. It's called regulation, you might have heard of it. Our financial markets especially are high crime areas and you want to send the cops home.

Mr dingle berry, sir

The former USSR had a massive police state force dominated by the KGB - that agency could not keep up with the numerous black market transactions which occurred on a daily basis.

So shut the fuck up and try to learn from history.

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Well then Mr (insert absurd childish name here). Explain how a lack of regulation and enforcement would result in honest business dealings? It's the great flaw in radical libertarian thinking, it's the same one that exists at the heart of communism, people are greedy and fairly dishonest when it come to accumulation of worldly goods and nothing can change it.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism is not marxism, for 80 years now. I know it's damn hard to hear the truth in the US about it...Socialism is DEMOCRATIC. Communism is not. Fascism is RW, with corporations and capitalism. The terms "National Socialism and USSR is called PROPAGANDA, dingbat dupes.

God you are stupid.

In Marxist theory, socialism (also called lower-stage communism or the socialist mode of production) refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that supersede capitalism in the schema of historical materialism. Socialism is defined as a mode of production where the sole criterion for production is use-value and therefore the law of value no longer directs economic activity.Production for use is coordinated through consciouseconomic planning, while distribution of economic output is based on the principle of To each according to his contribution. The social relations of socialism are characterized by the working-class effectively owning themeans of production and the means of their livelihood, either through cooperative enterprises or by public ownership and self management, so that the social surplus accrues to the working class and society as a whole.[1]

I don't give a shytte what Marxist Doctrine says- it's totally discredited except among communists and cold war dinosaurs. Socialism is well regulated,fair capitalism- see Scandinavia, and all modern countries including US, but ours is still run by greedy idiot Pubs and hater dupes. See trickle down tax rates and policies.

Mr Fucktard, sir

Under socialism , all the means of production are owned by the state and economic planning is done centrally. That does not work - look at Cuba, the former USSR. How the fuck are low life motherfucking bureaucrats going to determine how many vehicles will be needed in the year 2015., TV's? Condoms?

Shut the fuck up.


.

That is COMMUNISM, stupid.

"We're all socialists now!" PM of Finland when O-Care was passed.

 

[Antares]

Capitalism is savage unless well regulated and fair. Then it's socialism, cold war dinosaur dingbats.

So you support Marxism?

Sound to me like he supports not being fucked over by big business because there is no one to tell them they cannot fuck people over. If being able to expect fairness from the faceless corporations we all do business with is socialism then we need more of that.

Nope he supports a free ride for himself and everyone else.

That's just a stupid insult, Pubtroll. What happened to calling me a wetback" lol

What do you want to be called franco prick?

This Nation will not in your Lifetime be "Socialist"

 

[Antares]

Fact......

Marxism-Socialism-Communism........they are all just stages in the evolution of the Left.

They ALL must be enforced at the point of a gun in the end.

 

[occupied]

Capitalism is savage unless well regulated and fair. Then it's socialism, cold war dinosaur dingbats.

So you support Marxism?

Sound to me like he supports not being fucked over by big business because there is no one to tell them they cannot fuck people over. If being able to expect fairness from the faceless corporations we all do business with is socialism then we need more of that.

Nope he supports a free ride for himself and everyone else.

That's just a stupid insult, Pubtroll. What happened to calling me a wetback" lol

What do you want to be called franco prick?

This Nation will not in your Lifetime be "Socialist"

It already is according to libertarians but then they also think the world is flat and that bigfoot exists.

 

[Antares]

So you support Marxism?

Sound to me like he supports not being fucked over by big business because there is no one to tell them they cannot fuck people over. If being able to expect fairness from the faceless corporations we all do business with is socialism then we need more of that.

Nope he supports a free ride for himself and everyone else.

That's just a stupid insult, Pubtroll. What happened to calling me a wetback" lol

What do you want to be called franco prick?

This Nation will not in your Lifetime be "Socialist"

It already is according to libertarians but then they also think the world is flat and that bigfoot exists.

Wait.....BIGFOOT doesn't exist?

 

[occupied]

Fact......

Marxism-Socialism-Communism........they are all just stages in the evolution of the Left.

They ALL must be enforced at the point of a gun in the end.

Yes, guns are good for keeping people in line, there is no human society that ever existed without cops of some kind, libertarian dream land is no different.

 

[occupied]

Sound to me like he supports not being fucked over by big business because there is no one to tell them they cannot fuck people over. If being able to expect fairness from the faceless corporations we all do business with is socialism then we need more of that.

Nope he supports a free ride for himself and everyone else.

That's just a stupid insult, Pubtroll. What happened to calling me a wetback" lol

What do you want to be called franco prick?

This Nation will not in your Lifetime be "Socialist"

It already is according to libertarians but then they also think the world is flat and that bigfoot exists.

Wait.....BIGFOOT doesn't exist?

No, and neither does anything else that libertarians want, nothing they can point to and say "see, it's working over there".

 

[Contumacious]

Socialism is not marxism, for 80 years now. I know it's damn hard to hear the truth in the US about it...Socialism is DEMOCRATIC. Communism is not. Fascism is RW, with corporations and capitalism. The terms "National Socialism and USSR is called PROPAGANDA, dingbat dupes.

God you are stupid.

In Marxist theory, socialism (also called lower-stage communism or the socialist mode of production) refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that supersede capitalism in the schema of historical materialism. Socialism is defined as a mode of production where the sole criterion for production is use-value and therefore the law of value no longer directs economic activity.Production for use is coordinated through consciouseconomic planning, while distribution of economic output is based on the principle of To each according to his contribution. The social relations of socialism are characterized by the working-class effectively owning themeans of production and the means of their livelihood, either through cooperative enterprises or by public ownership and self management, so that the social surplus accrues to the working class and society as a whole.[1]

I don't give a shytte what Marxist Doctrine says- it's totally discredited except among communists and cold war dinosaurs. Socialism is well regulated,fair capitalism- see Scandinavia, and all modern countries including US, but ours is still run by greedy idiot Pubs and hater dupes. See trickle down tax rates and policies.

Mr Fucktard, sir

Under socialism , all the means of production are owned by the state and economic planning is done centrally. That does not work - look at Cuba, the former USSR. How the fuck are low life motherfucking bureaucrats going to determine how many vehicles will be needed in the year 2015., TV's? Condoms?

Shut the fuck up.


.

That is COMMUNISM, stupid.

"We're all socialists now!" PM of Finland when O-Care was passed.

Obama Hellcare is fascist.


Hellcare will be provided by a privately owned company which will be heavily regulated by the government.

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[jknowgood]

So you support Marxism?

Sound to me like he supports not being fucked over by big business because there is no one to tell them they cannot fuck people over. If being able to expect fairness from the faceless corporations we all do business with is socialism then we need more of that.

Nope he supports a free ride for himself and everyone else.

That's just a stupid insult, Pubtroll. What happened to calling me a wetback" lol

What do you want to be called franco prick?

This Nation will not in your Lifetime be "Socialist"

It already is according to libertarians but then they also think the world is flat and that bigfoot exists.

Lol, coming from an global cooling, global warming, or climate change, freak.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism is not marxism, for 80 years now. I know it's damn hard to hear the truth in the US about it...Socialism is DEMOCRATIC. Communism is not. Fascism is RW, with corporations and capitalism. The terms "National Socialism and USSR is called PROPAGANDA, dingbat dupes.

God you are stupid.

In Marxist theory, socialism (also called lower-stage communism or the socialist mode of production) refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that supersede capitalism in the schema of historical materialism. Socialism is defined as a mode of production where the sole criterion for production is use-value and therefore the law of value no longer directs economic activity.Production for use is coordinated through consciouseconomic planning, while distribution of economic output is based on the principle of To each according to his contribution. The social relations of socialism are characterized by the working-class effectively owning themeans of production and the means of their livelihood, either through cooperative enterprises or by public ownership and self management, so that the social surplus accrues to the working class and society as a whole.[1]

I don't give a shytte what Marxist Doctrine says- it's totally discredited except among communists and cold war dinosaurs. Socialism is well regulated,fair capitalism- see Scandinavia, and all modern countries including US, but ours is still run by greedy idiot Pubs and hater dupes. See trickle down tax rates and policies.

You are an idiot franco,go play with the little kids.

What, no more irrelevant waddle from the Cold War dinosaur playbook? Breaking- We won.

 

[Antares]

Socialism is not marxism, for 80 years now. I know it's damn hard to hear the truth in the US about it...Socialism is DEMOCRATIC. Communism is not. Fascism is RW, with corporations and capitalism. The terms "National Socialism and USSR is called PROPAGANDA, dingbat dupes.

God you are stupid.

In Marxist theory, socialism (also called lower-stage communism or the socialist mode of production) refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that supersede capitalism in the schema of historical materialism. Socialism is defined as a mode of production where the sole criterion for production is use-value and therefore the law of value no longer directs economic activity.Production for use is coordinated through consciouseconomic planning, while distribution of economic output is based on the principle of To each according to his contribution. The social relations of socialism are characterized by the working-class effectively owning themeans of production and the means of their livelihood, either through cooperative enterprises or by public ownership and self management, so that the social surplus accrues to the working class and society as a whole.[1]

I don't give a shytte what Marxist Doctrine says- it's totally discredited except among communists and cold war dinosaurs. Socialism is well regulated,fair capitalism- see Scandinavia, and all modern countries including US, but ours is still run by greedy idiot Pubs and hater dupes. See trickle down tax rates and policies.

You are an idiot franco,go play with the little kids.

What, no more irrelevant waddle from the Cold War dinosaur playbook? Breaking- We won.

You will not win in your Lifetime.....there are too many of me.