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Kellyanne Conway denies Trump press secretary lied: ‘He offered alternative facts’ – video
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...trump-press-secretary-alternative-facts-video
That was the beginning of what Kellyanne defined as essentially an alternative reality. Available to anyone who wants to chose to believe in something other than actual reality when it is well, let's say it's inconvenient to do so. Actual reality like a lost election.
Think of it as The Following's happy place. A safe space to go to work out the incongruity of "what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...g-in-the-news-is-not-whats-happening-inbox-x/
Quite a lot has happened since then that was well, let's say inconvenient.
“The Department of Justice has authorized me to confirm” the existence of a broader investigation into potential collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, Comey said. “We’re not going to say another word about it until we’re done.”
And, indeed, he would not speak about it again, as FBI director.
The Comey firing, as retold by the Mueller report
That ended Jim's career as head of the FBI. There have been endless arguments of what that investigation, ultimately taken over by Mueller, did or didn't reveal. What is not in dispute is Don's motivation for firing Comey. As the Orange Menace said, "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off." In a bizarre twist, he said that to Russians in the Oval Office.
https://www.npr.org/2017/05/19/5291...-fired-nut-job-comey-because-of-investigation
Geebers. Now there's a good reason to seek the comfort of the alternative fact hidey hole. The POTUS fired the head of the FBI after the latter publicly acknowledged the existence of a broader investigation into potential collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.
A summary of Comey's firing in the Mueller report goes like this.
D. Firing of James Comey
Obstructive act (p. 74): “Firing Comey would qualify as an obstructive act if it had the natural and probable effect of interfering with or impeding the investigation.” Trump’s handling of the Comey firing and his actions in the subsequent days “had the potential to affect a successor director’s conduct of the investigation,” though removing Comey “would not necessarily … prevent or impede the FBI from continuing its investigation.”
Nexus (p. 75): By the time of the Comey firing, Trump was aware of both the FBI investigation into Russian election interference and the investigation into Flynn.
Intent (p. 75): “Substantial evidence” indicates that Trump fired Comey because of “Comey’s unwillingness to publicly state that the President was not personally under investigation.” Mueller notes that “ome evidence indicates that the President believed that the erroneous perception he was under investigation harmed his ability to manage domestic and foreign affairs”—but “[o]ther evidence … indicates that the President wanted to protect himself from an investigation into his campaign.” “The initial reliance on a pretextual justification [for Comey’s firing] could support an inference that the President had concerns about providing the real reason for the firing, although the evidence does not resolve whether those concerns were personal, personal, or both.”
Obstruction of Justice in the Mueller Report: A Heat Map
Gee, it seems like an alternative reality would come in handy in dealing with that. Maybe even a tin foil hat.
Since this thread is about Trump firing Comey, I will not be responding to the inevitable deflections regarding Billy the Bagman's false characterization of the Mueller report. Or anything to do with The Following's false belief in the alternative reality that Mueller exonerated Trump.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...trump-press-secretary-alternative-facts-video
That was the beginning of what Kellyanne defined as essentially an alternative reality. Available to anyone who wants to chose to believe in something other than actual reality when it is well, let's say it's inconvenient to do so. Actual reality like a lost election.
Think of it as The Following's happy place. A safe space to go to work out the incongruity of "what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...g-in-the-news-is-not-whats-happening-inbox-x/
Quite a lot has happened since then that was well, let's say inconvenient.
“The Department of Justice has authorized me to confirm” the existence of a broader investigation into potential collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, Comey said. “We’re not going to say another word about it until we’re done.”
And, indeed, he would not speak about it again, as FBI director.
The Comey firing, as retold by the Mueller report
That ended Jim's career as head of the FBI. There have been endless arguments of what that investigation, ultimately taken over by Mueller, did or didn't reveal. What is not in dispute is Don's motivation for firing Comey. As the Orange Menace said, "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off." In a bizarre twist, he said that to Russians in the Oval Office.
https://www.npr.org/2017/05/19/5291...-fired-nut-job-comey-because-of-investigation
Geebers. Now there's a good reason to seek the comfort of the alternative fact hidey hole. The POTUS fired the head of the FBI after the latter publicly acknowledged the existence of a broader investigation into potential collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.
A summary of Comey's firing in the Mueller report goes like this.
D. Firing of James Comey
Obstructive act (p. 74): “Firing Comey would qualify as an obstructive act if it had the natural and probable effect of interfering with or impeding the investigation.” Trump’s handling of the Comey firing and his actions in the subsequent days “had the potential to affect a successor director’s conduct of the investigation,” though removing Comey “would not necessarily … prevent or impede the FBI from continuing its investigation.”
Nexus (p. 75): By the time of the Comey firing, Trump was aware of both the FBI investigation into Russian election interference and the investigation into Flynn.
Intent (p. 75): “Substantial evidence” indicates that Trump fired Comey because of “Comey’s unwillingness to publicly state that the President was not personally under investigation.” Mueller notes that “ome evidence indicates that the President believed that the erroneous perception he was under investigation harmed his ability to manage domestic and foreign affairs”—but “[o]ther evidence … indicates that the President wanted to protect himself from an investigation into his campaign.” “The initial reliance on a pretextual justification [for Comey’s firing] could support an inference that the President had concerns about providing the real reason for the firing, although the evidence does not resolve whether those concerns were personal, personal, or both.”
Obstruction of Justice in the Mueller Report: A Heat Map
Gee, it seems like an alternative reality would come in handy in dealing with that. Maybe even a tin foil hat.
Since this thread is about Trump firing Comey, I will not be responding to the inevitable deflections regarding Billy the Bagman's false characterization of the Mueller report. Or anything to do with The Following's false belief in the alternative reality that Mueller exonerated Trump.
