The Death Of Privacy

What a load of shit.

Teabaggers never bitch about this.

Liberals oppose the Patriot Act......but we were not loud enough to drown out the bullshit machine and put a halt to it after 9-11.

The single factor that prompts any teabaggers to oppose it now is the fact that the dude in charge is not the one they want. You know it. Stop lying.
Bullshit liberoidals oppose USAPATRIOT Act....It passed the original Senate vote 98-1.

Your Dear Leader spouted out a litany of excuses for why he was not only keeping it in place, but also gave us the excuse-a-thon when he signed NDAA.

The liar here is you, junior.

I don't have a "dear leader", asshole. President Obama is human, duly elected and not a liberal. Junior.

Try again.
You're right.....He's a borderline communist dictator.

I stand corrected.

BTW, he still gladly signed the re-authorization of USAPATRIOT and NDAA, behind one of the biggest clouds of excuse-blowing smoke of his entire regime....And hacks like you just lit another candle at your shrine to the Boiking.
 
So stop him. I didn't like it under Bush and I don't like it now. Only 54 Dems in the House voted for reauthorization of the Patriot Act. Talk to the hundreds of Republicans into stopping the Patriot Act.
The people who would be determined to stop this get maligned as "teabaggers" by freaks like you.

You've met the enemy, and he is ye.

Truth

The government even put Ron Paul supporters on the terrorist watch list, whilst working with Al Queda in Syria, the real terrorists...

Then they spend more time policing and harassing us, than they do the real terrorists.
 
Bullshit liberoidals oppose USAPATRIOT Act....It passed the original Senate vote 98-1.

Your Dear Leader spouted out a litany of excuses for why he was not only keeping it in place, but also gave us the excuse-a-thon when he signed NDAA.

The liar here is you, junior.

I don't have a "dear leader", asshole. President Obama is human, duly elected and not a liberal. Junior.

Try again.

:badgrin::badgrin::badgrin::cuckoo::stupid:

By neutral standards (non-partisan), Obama is actually considered Right-wing when examined, save Obamacare.
 
I don't have a "dear leader", asshole. President Obama is human, duly elected and not a liberal. Junior.

Try again.

:badgrin::badgrin::badgrin::cuckoo::stupid:

By neutral standards (non-partisan), Obama is actually considered Right-wing when examined, save Obamacare.
Actually , no.

It's merely the great leftward lurch of the GOP, led by the neoconservatives, over the last several decades that allows Marxist depots like Oboingo to appear "moderate".
 

By neutral standards (non-partisan), Obama is actually considered Right-wing when examined, save Obamacare.
Actually , no.

It's merely the great leftward lurch of the GOP, led by the neoconservatives, over the last several decades that allows Marxist depots like Oboingo to appear "moderate".

You know that I absolute hate and detest Obama correct? When examined, he comes up as Right-wing Authoritarian on the political compass, under several different questionnaires.

We're no longer in a battle of Right vs Left.

We're in a battle of Up vs Down.

This was evidenced when Dick Durbin and John Mcain ganged raped Rand Paul during the 13 hour filibuster.

Statism vs Libertarianism.

Choose your side.
 
Let me guess......you nutters think the dude who was in office when that law was originally passed was a liberal too.

Is that it?

He wasn't conservative.

Is that you in the avatar? I think I have a pic of myself ( circa. 1970 ) in a similar outfit. I was a bad-ass with a cap gun.

And.........NO! W was not conservative! Not at all!

Predictable tool.
 
By neutral standards (non-partisan), Obama is actually considered Right-wing when examined, save Obamacare.
Actually , no.

It's merely the great leftward lurch of the GOP, led by the neoconservatives, over the last several decades that allows Marxist depots like Oboingo to appear "moderate".

You know that I absolute hate and detest Obama correct? When examined, he comes up as Right-wing Authoritarian on the political compass, under several different questionnaires.

We're no longer in a battle of Right vs Left.

We're in a battle of Up vs Down.

This was evidenced when Dick Durbin and John Mcain ganged raped Rand Paul during the 13 hour filibuster.

Statism vs Libertarianism.

Choose your side.
I'm a libertarian....There is no real difference between "far right" and "far left"...They're all authoritarians by different means.

Even so, the "right-wing extremist" GW Bush was practically indistinguishable from the progressive/socialist authoritarian LBJ.

My left/right dichotomy has authoritarian tyrants on the left and anarchists just off the edge of farthest margin of a republic that protects liberty and individual rights.

By that metric, Oingoboingo is to the left of leftist neocon trudballs like GWB.
 
There's nothing patriotic about the Patriot Act. Even Merriam-Webster agrees: "A person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors". The government is not a person.
 
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Privacy is passe. You can forget about ever having privacy in this country ever again.

The government is using Google and phone companies to spy on us and nobody cares. After all Democrats are in the White House. They're good people they would never misuse all of the files they're collecting on us. Course if you ever choose to speak out about what you see the government is doing you can expect to have stories surface about how you like web sites like "Chicks With Dicks". How about all of those phone calls to your GF in Guatamala.

How do you think they found out about Ted Nugent's little hunting infraction after he decided to speak publically about the corruption in the Obama Administration.

It's pretty sad that Democrats in Washington consider normal Americans to be a greater threat than Iran. That's why they expend so much energy checking up on us.

Bush, after all, was infamous for starting a still-mysterious National Security Agency program to eavesdrop on phone calls, texts, and emails by U.S. citizens overseas after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

But that comparison misses a larger point: Bush never got permission from courts to listen in on those phone calls. Obama's administration, on the other hand, is working within an existing legal framework to get subpoenas, warrants, and orders to access these records. That represents a big difference in terms of constitutional checks and balances.

In a 2007 speech by then-Sen. Barack Obama, the presidential hopeful pledged to chase terrorists "without undermining our Constitution and our freedom." He promised to work with the legal system set up by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) of 1978, in which court judges can secretly review the government's plans to track suspected terrorists in advance. "That means no more illegal wire-tapping of American citizens," Obama added:

"No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient. That is not who we are. And it is not what is necessary to defeat the terrorists. The FISA court works. The separation of powers works. Our Constitution works. We will again set an example for the world that the law is not subject to the whims of stubborn rulers, and that justice is not arbitrary."




As a presidential candidate in 2008, Barack Obama pledged to reform the Patriot Act and rescind the FISA Amendments Act, but as president he reversed his position. The Obama administration has fought bipartisan efforts in Congress to bring the change he once championed.

The result is the "new normal": surveillance, often of questionable legality and sometimes clear illegality, against which Americans have little effective recourse, on the rare occasions that we even know that violations are taking place.

That was then......this is now.

Links

Is Verizongate Really a Scandal? Obama?s Phone Spying May Be Distasteful, But it?s Legal - ABC News

Opinion: The great privacy debate - CNN.com

Hate to break it to you, but privacy died a long time ago.
 
[FONT=Courier New, Courier, mono]And if someone wants to know why their own government has decided to go on a fishing expedition through every personal record or private document - through library books they've read and phone calls they've made - this legislation gives people no rights to appeal the need for such a search in a court of law. No judge will hear their plea, no jury will hear their case.
This is just plain wrong.
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Obama Speech - Senate Floor Statement - The PATRIOT Act- Complete Text

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I think it has become clear that a law is only as good as the Administration that enforces it.

Also, it's become clear that Obama cannot be trusted by anyone, Democrat or Republican.
 
A scandal a week. I wonder what else will come out?

Some people are saying that Obama himself is releasing all of this to get everyone off of Benghazi. I think it's to get it all out so that it's not released next year during the election. By then what difference does it make?
 
Some people are saying that Obama himself is releasing all of this to get everyone off of Benghazi. I think it's to get it all out so that it's not released next year during the election. By then what difference does it make?

IF that's true, it wasn't a very smart idea.
 

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