The democrat argument? Because normal people have guns, criminals get guns...now it applies to cars too....

[Bell Huey]

If you want to bet ANAL,

The agency's name was changed to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.

Nice.

20 years sounds nice for stealing a gun.

 

[Crepitus]

You guys would shit a fucking brick if you lived where I did in the Deep South and saw what gun storage was.

Junior, I already told you when I’m not home or the grandkids are there they are locked.

Learn to read,

I grew up next to the cypress swamps. I know how rednecks treat their guns.


Poorly.

 

[Bell Huey]

I grew up next to the cypress swamps. I know how rednecks treat their guns.


Poorly.

Then You also know that gun and hunting safety courses are offered in HS as well as shooting clubs.

 

[meaner gene]

Here is mine:

If I have to do something to the weapon to get a round in the chamber the weapon is not loaded.

That's an interesting definition. Since it means that heavy machine guns
are never loaded.

 

[Bell Huey]

That's an interesting definition. Since it means that heavy machine guns
are never loaded.

They are when they are belt fed And you pull the charging handle.

Got a lot of experience with them, Dr Google.

 

[Bell Huey]

That's an interesting definition. Since it means that heavy machine guns
are never loaded.

PS. In both my nines the magazine is loaded and inserted. But you can pull the trigger and Nothing will happen until you pull and release the slide.

You are talking like you are an expert but you really don’t know anything.

 

[meaner gene]

If you actually cared about criminals instead of just targeting gun ownera the real solution is a 20 year sentence for stealing a gun......you would end gun crime oner night.

It didn't work with drugs, it didn't work for DUI's, it didn't work for insider trading, there's a whole database of crimes that increased penalties had virtually no effect on.
You could make double parking a 20 year offense, and people would still double park.

 

[Crepitus]

If you actually cared about criminals instead of just targeting gun ownera the real solution is a 20 year sentence for stealing a gun......you would end gun crime oner night.

And what for the guy who left it on the coffee table?

 

[Bell Huey]

It didn't work with drugs, it didn't work for DUI's, it didn't work for insider trading, there's a whole database of crimes that increased penalties had virtually no effect on.
You could make double parking a 20 year offense, and people would still double park.

So your solution is to put the onus on the law abiding gun owner.


That’s stupid.

 

[Bell Huey]

And what for the guy who left it on the coffee table?

If his home is locked that is on the criminal.

 

[Bell Huey]

It didn't work with drugs, it didn't work for DUI's, it didn't work for insider trading, there's a whole database of crimes that increased penalties had virtually no effect on.
You could make double parking a 20 year offense, and people would still double park.

Ok. We will just shoot them.

 

[Bell Huey]

These lefties are like people blaming the rape victim for how they dressed.

 

[meaner gene]

When they are sitting in prison for twenty years word would get around the criminal community...stealing guns would end

Absolutely wrong. There is actually an opposite effect when penalties go beyond the normal. Jury nullification sets in, and convictions actually go down.

 

[Bell Huey]

Absolutely wrong. There is actually an opposite effect when penalties go beyond the normal. Jury nullification sets in, and convictions actually go down.

Then tell us. What is your solution that does not put an added burden on law abiding citizens.


This is your big chance. Here is the OP you didn’t read.

This is their argument.......because normal people own guns, criminals steal those guns and use them for crime.....therefore, if we take guns away from normal people, criminals won't have guns.

This actually is how they think....

How do we know...?

Because guns aren't the only thing they apply that stupid argument to....

We need to ban cars now too....

Chicago Sues Kia and Hyundai Because Their Cars Are Too Easy to Steal

The lunkheads at Kia and Hyundai decided to save a few bucks and not install engine immobilizers in many models between 2011 and 2022.

pjmedia.com

 

[meaner gene]

They are when they are belt fed And you pull the charging handle.

Got a lot of experience with them, Dr Google.

Whenever the trigger isn't pulled, the machine gun isn't loaded by your definition.
As a round is never in the chamber without pulling the trigger.

 

[Bell Huey]

Whenever the trigger isn't pulled, the machine gun isn't loaded by your definition.
As a round is never in the chamber without pulling the trigger.

But I wasn’t talking about MGs. if you recall, I specified which weapons I was talking about.

Next, you still have to pull the charging handle to make a machine gun begin to fire. Obviously you didn’t know that.

You see anything about a machine gun in that post? You are not doing so well on this thread where you have no support group, you can’t lie, and go off topic.

There is no BATF. It is the ATF

Just post YOUR DEFINITION. Why are you afraid? Here is mine:

If I have to do something to the weapon to get a round in the chamber the weapon is not loaded.

If it is semi automatic and there is no round in the chamber, it is not loaded.

If it is my Henry lever action and I have to activate the lever, it is not loaded.

Technically, By my definition, the only loaded weapon I have in my house is the Taurus Judge.

Google it.

 

[meaner gene]

But I wasn’t talking about MGs.

Then you should have given a heavy machine gun exception to your definition of loaded weapon, so it would apply to all weapons.

 

[meaner gene]

if you recall, I specified which weapons I was talking about.

You mentioned examples, but you didn't limit the definition. Only created that definition to make the definition applicable ONLY to yourself.

 

[Bell Huey]

Then you should have given a heavy machine gun exception to your definition of loaded weapon, so it would apply to all weapons.

You do realize that before a belt fed heavy machine gun will fire after getting a new belt you have to pull the charging handle. After that, It is loaded.

You need to educate yourself. It like you have had real life experience with one.

 

[Bell Huey]

You mentioned examples, but you didn't limit the definition. Only created that definition to make the definition applicable ONLY to yourself.

Keep spinning and please stick to the topic. You are not doing well. My comments were limited to the weapons mentioned.