The Divine Hand of the Europeans

[toastman]

Nope, he ducked the question and deflected like a good shitslinger would do.

If you were able to see "DEFLECTION" you would be able to DESCRIBE it---
ie state the "question" ----and the resulting method of "deflection"

make it easy "what 'question' did the msa supporter of genocide ask?---once
you manage to tell us the "question" ---only then can we determine if he
"deflected" After that we can discuss how the woman was tricked into saying
that she supported the round up of jews into Israel and the killing of them there.

You need to review the video. Mr. Shitslinger ducked the question and deflected with Hamas.

Lol what about the part where that 'student' tried to get people to join thw Hitler youth group. She was an Islamic jihadist slut

 

[P F Tinmore]

If you were able to see "DEFLECTION" you would be able to DESCRIBE it---
ie state the "question" ----and the resulting method of "deflection"

make it easy "what 'question' did the msa supporter of genocide ask?---once
you manage to tell us the "question" ---only then can we determine if he
"deflected" After that we can discuss how the woman was tricked into saying
that she supported the round up of jews into Israel and the killing of them there.

You need to review the video. Mr. Shitslinger ducked the question and deflected with Hamas.

Lol what about the part where that 'student' tried to get people to join thw Hitler youth group. She was an Islamic jihadist slut

Not the point.

 

[Hossfly]

David Horowitz embarrassing donkey boy's IslamoNazi girlfriend, good job: clap:

MSA student supports rounding up Jews to Israel to kill them - YouTube

Horowitz is a professional shitslinger with decades of experience. He pulled a deflection on a naive college student and she fell for it. He ducked the question as propagandists always do.

He would not have gotten away with it if his opponent was more experienced.

I wonder if Tinnie can tell us why these students who belong to the MSA never protest against the atrocities going on in Muslim countries such as all the suicide bombings taking out their brethren by other Muslims. It's always Israel they are protesting against no matter which country they have their roots in. Surely whatever sect these students belong to these atrocities should disgust them and one would think that in a free country like the U.S. they would protest. Even the Iranian Muslims alongside the Iranian Jews on the West Coast were protesting what was going on in Iran. In fact a street in Los Angeles is named for that unfortunate Iranian woman Neda who was killed.

 

[Jroc]

David Horowitz embarrassing donkey boy's IslamoNazi girlfriend, good job: clap:

MSA student supports rounding up Jews to Israel to kill them - YouTube

Horowitz is a professional shitslinger with decades of experience. He pulled a deflection on a naive college student and she fell for it. He ducked the question as propagandists always do.

He would not have gotten away with it if his opponent was more experienced.

Liberals like people who cower from confrontation as they push their liberal BS. Horowitz doesn't do that he takes them on head up which is why they hate him so much. That is a badge of honor Horowitz should be commended for his work.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Borders of Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Are we really going to go through this again ???

You have still not posted any documents showing when Israel acquired any borders.

The ball is still in your court.

You said Israel has no borders.

Show me a document that lists the pre requisites of having borders

Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties.

In the 1949 armistice agreements (which took place after resolution 181, after the end of the mandate, after Israel declared itself to be a state inside Palestine, and after the end of the 1948 war) the entire territory was still Palestine and the international borders were still Palestinian. No land was transferred. No borders were changed.

The 1949 armistice agreements divides Palestine into three areas of occupation. Jordan occupied the West Bank. Egypt occupied the Gaza Strip. Israel occupied the rest. All three were occupations. Again, no land was transferred. No borders were changed.

As was emphasized in the commentary on Article 4, the occupation of territory in wartime is essentially a temporary, de facto situation, which deprives the occupied Power of neither its statehood nor its sovereignty; it merely interferes with its power to exercise its rights. That is what distinguishes occupation from annexation, whereby the Occupying Power acquires all or part of the occupied territory and incorporates it in its own territory (4).
Consequently occupation as a result of war, while representing actual possession to all appearances, cannot imply any right whatsoever to dispose of territory. As long as hostilities continue the Occupying Power cannot therefore annex the occupied territory, even if it occupies the whole of the territory concerned. A decision on that point can only be reached in the peace treaty. That is a universally recognized rule which is endorsed by jurists and confirmed by numerous rulings of international and national courts.

International Humanitarian Law - Fourth 1949 Geneva Convention

 

[toastman]

You have still not posted any documents showing when Israel acquired any borders.

The ball is still in your court.

You said Israel has no borders.

Show me a document that lists the pre requisites of having borders

Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties.

In the 1949 armistice agreements (which took place after resolution 181, after the end of the mandate, after Israel declared itself to be a state inside Palestine, and after the end of the 1948 war) the entire territory was still Palestine and the international borders were still Palestinian. No land was transferred. No borders were changed.

The 1949 armistice agreements divides Palestine into three areas of occupation. Jordan occupied the West Bank. Egypt occupied the Gaza Strip. Israel occupied the rest. All three were occupations. Again, no land was transferred. No borders were changed.

As was emphasized in the commentary on Article 4, the occupation of territory in wartime is essentially a temporary, de facto situation, which deprives the occupied Power of neither its statehood nor its sovereignty; it merely interferes with its power to exercise its rights. That is what distinguishes occupation from annexation, whereby the Occupying Power acquires all or part of the occupied territory and incorporates it in its own territory (4).
Consequently occupation as a result of war, while representing actual possession to all appearances, cannot imply any right whatsoever to dispose of territory. As long as hostilities continue the Occupying Power cannot therefore annex the occupied territory, even if it occupies the whole of the territory concerned. A decision on that point can only be reached in the peace treaty. That is a universally recognized rule which is endorsed by jurists and confirmed by numerous rulings of international and national courts.

International Humanitarian Law - Fourth 1949 Geneva Convention

And nowhere here does it say Israel has no borders

 

[irosie91]

border disputes do not render countries non-existent
except in the fantasy world of tinsy.

A friend of mine has a BORDER dispute that involves
the land upon which a large building is situated which
his relative owns. It seems the neighbor--built a few
feet INTO his land-----and the situation creates a case
in court------according to tinnie----now neither of the two
buildings EXIST

 

[P F Tinmore]

You said Israel has no borders.

Show me a document that lists the pre requisites of having borders

Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties.

In the 1949 armistice agreements (which took place after resolution 181, after the end of the mandate, after Israel declared itself to be a state inside Palestine, and after the end of the 1948 war) the entire territory was still Palestine and the international borders were still Palestinian. No land was transferred. No borders were changed.

The 1949 armistice agreements divides Palestine into three areas of occupation. Jordan occupied the West Bank. Egypt occupied the Gaza Strip. Israel occupied the rest. All three were occupations. Again, no land was transferred. No borders were changed.

As was emphasized in the commentary on Article 4, the occupation of territory in wartime is essentially a temporary, de facto situation, which deprives the occupied Power of neither its statehood nor its sovereignty; it merely interferes with its power to exercise its rights. That is what distinguishes occupation from annexation, whereby the Occupying Power acquires all or part of the occupied territory and incorporates it in its own territory (4).
Consequently occupation as a result of war, while representing actual possession to all appearances, cannot imply any right whatsoever to dispose of territory. As long as hostilities continue the Occupying Power cannot therefore annex the occupied territory, even if it occupies the whole of the territory concerned. A decision on that point can only be reached in the peace treaty. That is a universally recognized rule which is endorsed by jurists and confirmed by numerous rulings of international and national courts.

International Humanitarian Law - Fourth 1949 Geneva Convention

And nowhere here does it say Israel has no borders

The 1949 armistice agreements say that. Would you like the links?

 

[irosie91]

Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties.

In the 1949 armistice agreements (which took place after resolution 181, after the end of the mandate, after Israel declared itself to be a state inside Palestine, and after the end of the 1948 war) the entire territory was still Palestine and the international borders were still Palestinian. No land was transferred. No borders were changed.

The 1949 armistice agreements divides Palestine into three areas of occupation. Jordan occupied the West Bank. Egypt occupied the Gaza Strip. Israel occupied the rest. All three were occupations. Again, no land was transferred. No borders were changed.

And nowhere here does it say Israel has no borders

The 1949 armistice agreements say that. Would you like the links?

The ARMISTICE agreements state that the amistice lines are not to be
taken as PERMANENT FIXED BORDERS according to your concepts---Jordan
does not exist either. How about you give up the silly sophistry

 

[P F Tinmore]

And nowhere here does it say Israel has no borders

The 1949 armistice agreements say that. Would you like the links?

The ARMISTICE agreements state that the amistice lines are not to be
taken as PERMANENT FIXED BORDERS according to your concepts---Jordan
does not exist either. How about you give up the silly sophistry

Not true. You are just blowing smoke.

 

[irosie91]

The 1949 armistice agreements say that. Would you like the links?

The ARMISTICE agreements state that the amistice lines are not to be
taken as PERMANENT FIXED BORDERS according to your concepts---Jordan
does not exist either. How about you give up the silly sophistry

Not true. You are just blowing smoke.

brilliant response tinsy

 

[P F Tinmore]

The ARMISTICE agreements state that the amistice lines are not to be
taken as PERMANENT FIXED BORDERS according to your concepts---Jordan
does not exist either. How about you give up the silly sophistry

Not true. You are just blowing smoke.

brilliant response tinsy

The armistice agreements did not create or change any borders so your post makes no sense.

 

[editec]

Almost every hot spot on the globe today can trace its problems back to the 1917 Treaty of Versailles, that IS true.

 

[toastman]

Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties.

In the 1949 armistice agreements (which took place after resolution 181, after the end of the mandate, after Israel declared itself to be a state inside Palestine, and after the end of the 1948 war) the entire territory was still Palestine and the international borders were still Palestinian. No land was transferred. No borders were changed.

The 1949 armistice agreements divides Palestine into three areas of occupation. Jordan occupied the West Bank. Egypt occupied the Gaza Strip. Israel occupied the rest. All three were occupations. Again, no land was transferred. No borders were changed.

And nowhere here does it say Israel has no borders

The 1949 armistice agreements say that. Would you like the links?

Sure. Then we can fast forward to 2013 and you can show me how Israel has no borders now !

 

[P F Tinmore]

And nowhere here does it say Israel has no borders

The 1949 armistice agreements say that. Would you like the links?

Sure. Then we can fast forward to 2013 and you can show me how Israel has no borders now !

Sure, while I am doing that, find documents showing when Israel acquired borders.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The 1949 armistice agreements say that. Would you like the links?

Sure. Then we can fast forward to 2013 and you can show me how Israel has no borders now !

Sure, while I am doing that, find documents showing when Israel acquired borders.

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949
The Avalon Project : Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, March 23, 1949
The Avalon Project : Jordanian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, April 3, 1949
The Avalon Project : Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949

 

[toastman]

The 1949 armistice agreements say that. Would you like the links?

Sure. Then we can fast forward to 2013 and you can show me how Israel has no borders now !

Sure, while I am doing that, find documents showing when Israel acquired borders.

I don't have a single clue as to how to locate documents like that.

I just need to remind myself that you are the one that said Israel has no civilians, so arguing with you usually goes nowhere lol

 

[toastman]

Sure. Then we can fast forward to 2013 and you can show me how Israel has no borders now !

Sure, while I am doing that, find documents showing when Israel acquired borders.

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949
The Avalon Project : Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, March 23, 1949
The Avalon Project : Jordanian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, April 3, 1949
The Avalon Project : Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949

Interesting. Now 60 + years later, Israel has borders. I showed you the link, right? Which part of the link do you disagree with ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sure, while I am doing that, find documents showing when Israel acquired borders.

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949
The Avalon Project : Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, March 23, 1949
The Avalon Project : Jordanian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, April 3, 1949
The Avalon Project : Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949

Interesting. Now 60 + years later, Israel has borders. I showed you the link, right? Which part of the link do you disagree with ?

You have never posted any treaty giving any borders or land to Israel.

 

[toastman]

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949
The Avalon Project : Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, March 23, 1949
The Avalon Project : Jordanian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, April 3, 1949
The Avalon Project : Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949

Interesting. Now 60 + years later, Israel has borders. I showed you the link, right? Which part of the link do you disagree with ?

You have never posted any treaty giving any borders or land to Israel.

SUre, read the link I posted earlier