The DNC’s elephant in the room: Dems have a problem — it’s not Donald Trump

[JakeStarkey]

But all signs suggest that the DNC is poised to blow this unique moment and potentially guarantee the GOP increasing success over the next four years. This is so because the DNC has become immensely tone-deaf to its own internal problems.

Much has been made, for instance, of Trump’s historically low approval ratings, but less attention has been drawn to the fact that support for the DNC is even worse.

Trump currently has a 45.1 percent favorability rating, one of the lowest for any president in the history of polling. But Democrats fare worse. The DNC has only a 38.8 percent favorability rating.

A January Gallup poll indicated that party identification is at record lows, with 42 percent identifying as independents, 29 percent as Democrats, and 26 percent as Republicans. A recent Washington Post poll showed that the DNC trailed both Trump and the GOP when voters were asked if the party was “in touch” with their concerns. In fact, only 28 percent of those polled felt the party was connected with issues that matter to them.

Chris Cillizza notes that only 52 percent of self-identified Democrats said their party was in touch with peoples’ concerns, while 44 percent said it was out of touch: “Those numbers — particularly among Democrats — are striking. Party leaders in Washington have positioned the party as the voice of the little guy since the earliest days of the Trump presidency: Their side would be the one to stand up for the disenfranchised people in the country whose lives Trump neither cared about nor even thought much about.”

And yet, rather than face the extremely low support for the party, Democrats are busy avoiding and ignoring their own credibility problems. Even Hillary Clinton has refused to take any responsibility for losing the election, citing four external reasons for her loss: “Russian meddling in the election, FBI Director James Comey’s involvement toward the end of the race, WikiLeaks’ theft of emails from her campaign chairman, and misogyny.”


What’s amazing about this list is that there is no reference of any kind to the failures of the DNC itself. Clinton, like all party stalwarts, seems completely incapable of articulating any sort of reasonable assessment of the disasters of the last election.
The DNC’s elephant in the room: Dems have a problem — it’s not Donald Trump

They don't have any credibility. It isn't coming back any time soon.

If we have learned anything from Brexit and the orange clown beating the Bulldyke, it is that current polling data is unreliable. Polls are only useful when they can accurately predict outcomes. It appears at this time they can not.

The polls easily predicted the PV vote, but could not parse the outcome in the Upper Midwest.

As has always been the case, the popular vote doesn't matter, and with all the poll results the "experts" predicted a Bulldyke victory. Did you miss Rachel Maddow ( I know she is not an expert) a few days before the election going over the latest polls? She literally claimed the orange clown had no chance EVEN IF HE WON ALL THE TOSS UP STATES.

She is not a poll, now is she? The polls got the large picture correct, but were unable to predict the upper Midwest States.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But all signs suggest that the DNC is poised to blow this unique moment and potentially guarantee the GOP increasing success over the next four years. This is so because the DNC has become immensely tone-deaf to its own internal problems.

Much has been made, for instance, of Trump’s historically low approval ratings, but less attention has been drawn to the fact that support for the DNC is even worse.

Trump currently has a 45.1 percent favorability rating, one of the lowest for any president in the history of polling. But Democrats fare worse. The DNC has only a 38.8 percent favorability rating.

A January Gallup poll indicated that party identification is at record lows, with 42 percent identifying as independents, 29 percent as Democrats, and 26 percent as Republicans. A recent Washington Post poll showed that the DNC trailed both Trump and the GOP when voters were asked if the party was “in touch” with their concerns. In fact, only 28 percent of those polled felt the party was connected with issues that matter to them.

Chris Cillizza notes that only 52 percent of self-identified Democrats said their party was in touch with peoples’ concerns, while 44 percent said it was out of touch: “Those numbers — particularly among Democrats — are striking. Party leaders in Washington have positioned the party as the voice of the little guy since the earliest days of the Trump presidency: Their side would be the one to stand up for the disenfranchised people in the country whose lives Trump neither cared about nor even thought much about.”

And yet, rather than face the extremely low support for the party, Democrats are busy avoiding and ignoring their own credibility problems. Even Hillary Clinton has refused to take any responsibility for losing the election, citing four external reasons for her loss: “Russian meddling in the election, FBI Director James Comey’s involvement toward the end of the race, WikiLeaks’ theft of emails from her campaign chairman, and misogyny.”


What’s amazing about this list is that there is no reference of any kind to the failures of the DNC itself. Clinton, like all party stalwarts, seems completely incapable of articulating any sort of reasonable assessment of the disasters of the last election.
The DNC’s elephant in the room: Dems have a problem — it’s not Donald Trump

They don't have any credibility. It isn't coming back any time soon.

If we have learned anything from Brexit and the orange clown beating the Bulldyke, it is that current polling data is unreliable. Polls are only useful when they can accurately predict outcomes. It appears at this time they can not.

"Polls are not designed to inform the public, they are designed to shape the public."
Rush Limbaugh

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I am well aware that you don't have a clue, Raye.

If Trump threatens through his ineptness and incompetence and his criminality to threaten the welfare of the institutional GOP, its representatives and Senators in Congress will remove him.

Seems to me you're the one that's clueless. There is no criminality in the Trump administration. You leftists have been brainwashed by your precious MSM. As long as they keep talking about Russia, Putin and impeachment, there are fools like you that buy into it, and that's exactly what they want.

But the rest of us will sit back and laugh at your failed predictions just as we have the last two mid-terms and the recent presidential election. That's along side with your predictions of Republicans losing leadership of Congress, Senate, and even governorships across the country.

But I guess we all have our dreams even if they are not based on history.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I am well aware that you don't have a clue, Raye.

If Trump threatens through his ineptness and incompetence and his criminality to threaten the welfare of the institutional GOP, its representatives and Senators in Congress will remove him.

Seems to me you're the one that's clueless. There is no criminality in the Trump administration. You leftists have been brainwashed by your precious MSM. As long as they keep talking about Russia, Putin and impeachment, there are fools like you that buy into it, and that's exactly what they want.

But the rest of us will sit back and laugh at your failed predictions just as we have the last two mid-terms and the recent presidential election. That's along side with your predictions of Republicans losing leadership of Congress, Senate, and even governorships across the country.

But I guess we all have our dreams even if they are not based on history.

"Criminality" is an issue that remains to be resolved. You do not know all of my predictions or who I voted for. You without doubt have been wrong far more than me. Your dreams are that Trump will survive, while I think they will become nightmares before long for you.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I am well aware that you don't have a clue, Raye.

If Trump threatens through his ineptness and incompetence and his criminality to threaten the welfare of the institutional GOP, its representatives and Senators in Congress will remove him.

Seems to me you're the one that's clueless. There is no criminality in the Trump administration. You leftists have been brainwashed by your precious MSM. As long as they keep talking about Russia, Putin and impeachment, there are fools like you that buy into it, and that's exactly what they want.

But the rest of us will sit back and laugh at your failed predictions just as we have the last two mid-terms and the recent presidential election. That's along side with your predictions of Republicans losing leadership of Congress, Senate, and even governorships across the country.

But I guess we all have our dreams even if they are not based on history.

"Criminality" is an issue that remains to be resolved. You do not know all of my predictions or who I voted for. You without doubt have been wrong far more than me. Your dreams are that Trump will survive, while I think they will become nightmares before long for you.

Yes, I know. Just like I've been hearing the last 30 years or so how the Republicans are a party of old white men and dying off real soon. Or how Trump would quit the primaries like he did the time before. Or how Trump will say something so outrageous he wouldn't stand a chance at the nomination. Or how Trump will hand over his win to his VP. Or how Trump will not take the oath of office. Or how Trump will quit the presidency in a month or so.

Yep, I remember all those leftist predictions and I'm sure there are some I forgot. But the point is your side does not have a very good record when it comes to telling the future. I may as well go to that lady who has a future telling salon behind the gas station and pay her to tell me the outcome of this investigation. She probably would do better too.

 

[JakeStarkey]

My side is that of the GOP and commitment to America. Yours is anti-democracy and power. All of your comments above pale before the growing power of the Mueller Investigation. Trump is worried, as you should be.

 

[Disir]

My side is that of the GOP and commitment to America. Yours is anti-democracy and power. All of your comments above pale before the growing power of the Mueller Investigation. Trump is worried, as you should be.

This is nothing more than a distraction. It's a dog and pony show.

And it should bother you that---whether you like Trump or not----this is where the US is at. The Democrats will not recover from this.

 

[Disir]

But all signs suggest that the DNC is poised to blow this unique moment and potentially guarantee the GOP increasing success over the next four years. This is so because the DNC has become immensely tone-deaf to its own internal problems.

Much has been made, for instance, of Trump’s historically low approval ratings, but less attention has been drawn to the fact that support for the DNC is even worse.

Trump currently has a 45.1 percent favorability rating, one of the lowest for any president in the history of polling. But Democrats fare worse. The DNC has only a 38.8 percent favorability rating.

A January Gallup poll indicated that party identification is at record lows, with 42 percent identifying as independents, 29 percent as Democrats, and 26 percent as Republicans. A recent Washington Post poll showed that the DNC trailed both Trump and the GOP when voters were asked if the party was “in touch” with their concerns. In fact, only 28 percent of those polled felt the party was connected with issues that matter to them.

Chris Cillizza notes that only 52 percent of self-identified Democrats said their party was in touch with peoples’ concerns, while 44 percent said it was out of touch: “Those numbers — particularly among Democrats — are striking. Party leaders in Washington have positioned the party as the voice of the little guy since the earliest days of the Trump presidency: Their side would be the one to stand up for the disenfranchised people in the country whose lives Trump neither cared about nor even thought much about.”

And yet, rather than face the extremely low support for the party, Democrats are busy avoiding and ignoring their own credibility problems. Even Hillary Clinton has refused to take any responsibility for losing the election, citing four external reasons for her loss: “Russian meddling in the election, FBI Director James Comey’s involvement toward the end of the race, WikiLeaks’ theft of emails from her campaign chairman, and misogyny.”


What’s amazing about this list is that there is no reference of any kind to the failures of the DNC itself. Clinton, like all party stalwarts, seems completely incapable of articulating any sort of reasonable assessment of the disasters of the last election.
The DNC’s elephant in the room: Dems have a problem — it’s not Donald Trump

They don't have any credibility. It isn't coming back any time soon.

If we have learned anything from Brexit and the orange clown beating the Bulldyke, it is that current polling data is unreliable. Polls are only useful when they can accurately predict outcomes. It appears at this time they can not.

Are you telling me the Dems don't have a credibility issue going on?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

My side is that of the GOP and commitment to America. Yours is anti-democracy and power. All of your comments above pale before the growing power of the Mueller Investigation. Trump is worried, as you should be.

Yeah, I'm sure Trump is not eating or sleeping.

You can believe what you want, but I'll offer some advice here: Start getting your conspiracy theories together for when Trump is found not to have anything to do with Russia. You know.......kind of get a head start on your comrades.

 

[Kondor3]

The DNC is the democrats' worse nightmare.

As long as you allow the Clinton freeks to control the administration and fund raising, you will keep losing elections you should win handily.

It's not just the Clinton freaks.

It's installing a Hispanic (Perez) as Chair.

It's installing a Black Muslim (Ellison) as Vice-Chair.

There are only two ways that the Dip$hit Democrats regain power anytime soon...

1. Trump phukks-up sooooo badly that he has to be removed, and Republicans wait overly-long to distance themselves from him

2. Democrats kiss and make-up with Straight White America - throwing Illegal Aliens and Gays under the bus

Of the two, the former seems more likely at the moment.

You don't win elections unless you have a sizable percentage of White America on your side.

Unlike other ethnic or racial groups, Whites are sufficiently numerous that they can afford to split between Conservatism and Liberalism, and still decide elections.

If Whites band-together to vote, the way Blacks and Hispanics do, as a near-monolithic mass, nothing that the other groups do really matters.

That's rare, but November 2016 saw us move a little closer to that White Monolithic Vote, when dumb-ass Shrillary labeled opposition supporters as "Deplorables".

Hell, even if you THINK that, you don't SAY it out-loud in public, because you're gonna piss-off a lof of other folks with the same skin-color.

Unfortunately, Democrats, just like their Republic counterparts, ceased representing the vast majority of Americans, long, long ago.

It's just that they talk a better Champion-of-the-People game than their far less-imaginative opponents.

They do MORE for The People than their dumb-ass Republican opposites, but they're still soaking the taxpayers and gorging themselves.

Being more politically savvy than the Grand Old Corporatist vote-whores, the Democrats throw the Plebs enough bones to keep the Dems in power.

Until they phukk-up, like they did in 2016, and get shoved off to the sidelines for a while, watching impotently as the Republicans wreak their own brand of mayhem.

 

[Mac1958]

They don't have any credibility. It isn't coming back any time soon.

The Democratic Party is not in good shape, and yeah, the primary reason is that its loudest and most energetic element - the Regressive Left - is in control of it. It sure could use a Reformation, but the regressives won't allow it, of course. I don't know how that gets fixed.

On the other hand, elections are often a function of contrasts. And given Trump's current trajectory, the regressives are confident their candidates will be able to win based on enough people voting against him.

Right now, they seem pretty happy.
.

 

[Disir]

They don't have any credibility. It isn't coming back any time soon.

The Democratic Party is not in good shape, and yeah, the primary reason is that its loudest and most energetic element - the Regressive Left - is in control of it. It sure could use a Reformation, but the regressives won't allow it, of course. I don't know how that gets fixed.

On the other hand, elections are often a function of contrasts. And given Trump's current trajectory, the regressives are confident their candidates will be able to win based on enough people voting against him.

Right now, they seem pretty happy.
.

There has to be a contrast. It's why they refuse to deal with policy.

It's the money behind it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It is a mistake to compare the ratings of an individual to those of an organization. People do not and cannot vote for the Democratic National Committee. People do vote for people and it is expected that the Republicans will lose the House because Trump is a disaster. Seeing Trump disgrace the presidency, we are watching a train wreck in slow motion.

You keep forgetting, Eurohead, that Republicans are mostly at fault for NOT doing what Trump wants. Those who oppose him will be primaried out and new Republicans will just take their seats simply because no one is buying what Dems are selling.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It is a mistake to compare the ratings of an individual to those of an organization. People do not and cannot vote for the Democratic National Committee. People do vote for people and it is expected that the Republicans will lose the House because Trump is a disaster. Seeing Trump disgrace the presidency, we are watching a train wreck in slow motion.

He is not quite the disaster you wish he was. Frankly, that isn't enough to run on.

If you think Trump is not a disaster, one has to wonder if you are awake.

Just exactly how are we worse off than 4 months ago? Name specifics!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If you think Trump is not a disaster, one has to wonder if you are awake.

He's not good but he isn't what you make him out to be. Again. Let me make this clear......I hate Trump is not enough for Democrats. If you can't figure that out then one has to wonder if you are awake.

With Trump as President, the Democrats do not even need a manifesto.

Well, then don't be surprised when you clowns continue to lose.

Disir is 100% straight. If the dems stay with the same people that got them beat last time, what does anyone think will change.

Democrats will take control of the House on the coattails of Donald Trump.

If frogs could fly, they would not bump their ass!

 

[JakeStarkey]

My side is that of the GOP and commitment to America. Yours is anti-democracy and power. All of your comments above pale before the growing power of the Mueller Investigation. Trump is worried, as you should be.

This is nothing more than a distraction. It's a dog and pony show.

And it should bother you that---whether you like Trump or not----this is where the US is at. The Democrats will not recover from this.

I am not Dem, so I am not worried if that party recovers, because some other party will rise to fill its place. The DNC now is nothing but a Clinton machine, and it should be destroyed in future elections.

The GOP has its own Trumpmania problem that may well interfere with GOP hopes electorally in fall of next year.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It is a mistake to compare the ratings of an individual to those of an organization. People do not and cannot vote for the Democratic National Committee. People do vote for people and it is expected that the Republicans will lose the House because Trump is a disaster. Seeing Trump disgrace the presidency, we are watching a train wreck in slow motion.

He is not quite the disaster you wish he was. Frankly, that isn't enough to run on.

If you think Trump is not a disaster, one has to wonder if you are awake.

Just exactly how are we worse off than 4 months ago? Name specifics!

Trump is president.

 

[JakeStarkey]

My side is that of the GOP and commitment to America. Yours is anti-democracy and power. All of your comments above pale before the growing power of the Mueller Investigation. Trump is worried, as you should be.

Yeah, I'm sure Trump is not eating or sleeping.

You can believe what you want, but I'll offer some advice here: Start getting your conspiracy theories together for when Trump is found not to have anything to do with Russia. You know.......kind of get a head start on your comrades.

That Trumpers conspired with the Russians in not a conspiracy, lil feller.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

My side is that of the GOP and commitment to America. Yours is anti-democracy and power. All of your comments above pale before the growing power of the Mueller Investigation. Trump is worried, as you should be.

Yeah, I'm sure Trump is not eating or sleeping.

You can believe what you want, but I'll offer some advice here: Start getting your conspiracy theories together for when Trump is found not to have anything to do with Russia. You know.......kind of get a head start on your comrades.

That Trumpers conspired with the Russians in not a conspiracy, lil feller.

 

[Disir]

My side is that of the GOP and commitment to America. Yours is anti-democracy and power. All of your comments above pale before the growing power of the Mueller Investigation. Trump is worried, as you should be.

This is nothing more than a distraction. It's a dog and pony show.

And it should bother you that---whether you like Trump or not----this is where the US is at. The Democrats will not recover from this.

I am not Dem, so I am not worried it that party recovers, because some other party will rise to fill its place.

The GOP has its own Trumpmania problem that may well interfere with GOP hopes electorally in fall of next year.

And it should interfere with the GOP hopes. There are two factions in congress and neither of them appear to be operating for their constituents.