The DNC’s elephant in the room: Dems have a problem — it’s not Donald Trump

Yet the Republicans have only a 34.7 % favoribility rating.

I'm thinking third parties may gain...

A third party has no chance in this country. That's because most voters are concerned about who to keep out than who they get in.

The only way for a third party to have a chance is if both the Democrat and Republican party piss off their constituents so bad that there is no concern about keeping the other guy out of the race.
 
But all signs suggest that the DNC is poised to blow this unique moment and potentially guarantee the GOP increasing success over the next four years. This is so because the DNC has become immensely tone-deaf to its own internal problems.

Much has been made, for instance, of Trump’s historically low approval ratings, but less attention has been drawn to the fact that support for the DNC is even worse.

Trump currently has a 45.1 percent favorability rating, one of the lowest for any president in the history of polling. But Democrats fare worse. The DNC has only a 38.8 percent favorability rating.

A January Gallup poll indicated that party identification is at record lows, with 42 percent identifying as independents, 29 percent as Democrats, and 26 percent as Republicans. A recent Washington Post poll showed that the DNC trailed both Trump and the GOP when voters were asked if the party was “in touch” with their concerns. In fact, only 28 percent of those polled felt the party was connected with issues that matter to them.

Chris Cillizza notes that only 52 percent of self-identified Democrats said their party was in touch with peoples’ concerns, while 44 percent said it was out of touch: “Those numbers — particularly among Democrats — are striking. Party leaders in Washington have positioned the party as the voice of the little guy since the earliest days of the Trump presidency: Their side would be the one to stand up for the disenfranchised people in the country whose lives Trump neither cared about nor even thought much about.”

And yet, rather than face the extremely low support for the party, Democrats are busy avoiding and ignoring their own credibility problems. Even Hillary Clinton has refused to take any responsibility for losing the election, citing four external reasons for her loss: “Russian meddling in the election, FBI Director James Comey’s involvement toward the end of the race, WikiLeaks’ theft of emails from her campaign chairman, and misogyny.”


What’s amazing about this list is that there is no reference of any kind to the failures of the DNC itself. Clinton, like all party stalwarts, seems completely incapable of articulating any sort of reasonable assessment of the disasters of the last election.
The DNC’s elephant in the room: Dems have a problem — it’s not Donald Trump

They don't have any credibility. It isn't coming back any time soon.

The problem with Democrats is they are trying so hard to convince their constituents that they really didn't lose, so they don't focus on their own faults.

It's nothing new. They have been doing it for years. Trump won because of Russia which they can't really explain. Bush won because of the Supreme Court. Bush was reelected because he was friends with people at Diebold who manufactured the voting machines people had to get because Democrats complained about punch card ballots.

Then there are the other excuses such as Republicans win because of gerrymandering. Or Republicans won because of Voter-ID which is voter suppression. Or Republicans win because of big corporate money.

So the question is why does the DNC look for excuses instead of improvement? Because they can never tell their constituents that the country doesn't like their platform. If their constituents ever learned that, it would knock the wind out of their sails and they just might stop voting period.
The DNC doesn't need to improve. They are already winning. The elections are stolen from them after the win. Hillary won, Russia stole the win. Al Gore won. John Kerry won. The elections were wrongfully taken. The Democrat Platform is perfect as it is.

Sure you didn't mean whining.
 
Yet the Republicans have only a 34.7 % favoribility rating.

I'm thinking third parties may gain...

A third party has no chance in this country. That's because most voters are concerned about who to keep out than who they get in.

The only way for a third party to have a chance is if both the Democrat and Republican party piss off their constituents so bad that there is no concern about keeping the other guy out of the race.

Sadly I think you have a point, but I wonder if we are coming to this? Consider this past election cycle - two horribly bad candidates where more people voted AGAINST the other candidate than FOR their candidate?
 
It is a mistake to compare the ratings of an individual to those of an organization. People do not and cannot vote for the Democratic National Committee. People do vote for people and it is expected that the Republicans will lose the House because Trump is a disaster. Seeing Trump disgrace the presidency, we are watching a train wreck in slow motion.
 
But all signs suggest that the DNC is poised to blow this unique moment and potentially guarantee the GOP increasing success over the next four years. This is so because the DNC has become immensely tone-deaf to its own internal problems.

Much has been made, for instance, of Trump’s historically low approval ratings, but less attention has been drawn to the fact that support for the DNC is even worse.

Trump currently has a 45.1 percent favorability rating, one of the lowest for any president in the history of polling. But Democrats fare worse. The DNC has only a 38.8 percent favorability rating.

A January Gallup poll indicated that party identification is at record lows, with 42 percent identifying as independents, 29 percent as Democrats, and 26 percent as Republicans. A recent Washington Post poll showed that the DNC trailed both Trump and the GOP when voters were asked if the party was “in touch” with their concerns. In fact, only 28 percent of those polled felt the party was connected with issues that matter to them.

Chris Cillizza notes that only 52 percent of self-identified Democrats said their party was in touch with peoples’ concerns, while 44 percent said it was out of touch: “Those numbers — particularly among Democrats — are striking. Party leaders in Washington have positioned the party as the voice of the little guy since the earliest days of the Trump presidency: Their side would be the one to stand up for the disenfranchised people in the country whose lives Trump neither cared about nor even thought much about.”

And yet, rather than face the extremely low support for the party, Democrats are busy avoiding and ignoring their own credibility problems. Even Hillary Clinton has refused to take any responsibility for losing the election, citing four external reasons for her loss: “Russian meddling in the election, FBI Director James Comey’s involvement toward the end of the race, WikiLeaks’ theft of emails from her campaign chairman, and misogyny.”


What’s amazing about this list is that there is no reference of any kind to the failures of the DNC itself. Clinton, like all party stalwarts, seems completely incapable of articulating any sort of reasonable assessment of the disasters of the last election.
The DNC’s elephant in the room: Dems have a problem — it’s not Donald Trump

They don't have any credibility. It isn't coming back any time soon.

The problem with Democrats is they are trying so hard to convince their constituents that they really didn't lose, so they don't focus on their own faults.

It's nothing new. They have been doing it for years. Trump won because of Russia which they can't really explain. Bush won because of the Supreme Court. Bush was reelected because he was friends with people at Diebold who manufactured the voting machines people had to get because Democrats complained about punch card ballots.

Then there are the other excuses such as Republicans win because of gerrymandering. Or Republicans won because of Voter-ID which is voter suppression. Or Republicans win because of big corporate money.

So the question is why does the DNC look for excuses instead of improvement? Because they can never tell their constituents that the country doesn't like their platform. If their constituents ever learned that, it would knock the wind out of their sails and they just might stop voting period.

Platforms over all are nothing more than a bunch of vague bs. Always have been. It's the actual policy and they want to stay as far away from that as possible.

The people of America are simply not ready for socialism, and hopefully never will be. We went to the polls looking at 20 trillion in debt and record number of new government dependents. When we do examine the DNC platform, many of us realize the Democrat party has become the anti-white party striving to make whites a minority in their very own country, and many are rejecting it.

As the old saying goes, excuses are like assholes; everybody has one. If the Democrats have any hope for the future, they better quit looking for excuses and start looking for answers.

If you vote for us, we will give you free shit paid for with other people's money.

That is the extent of the Dem platform.

The Democrat party relies on two major groups of people to gain or maintain power. Those two groups are government dependents and victims.

Victims love Democrats and Democrats love victims. So one of their strategies is to create more victims.

Victims of racial discrimination, victims of the gun lobby, victims of BIG PHARMA and BIG OIL, victims of the wealthy, victims of polluters, victims of anything.

Government dependency too is a strategy, and nobody has created more government dependents than DumBama. His administration proudly announced that they created 20 million more new government dependents with Commie Care. He created another 20 million more new government dependents with food stamps. Between those two programs alone, he created 40 million more government dependents we didn't have before he took office. That's quite an accomplishment for the Democrats.
 
It is a mistake to compare the ratings of an individual to those of an organization. People do not and cannot vote for the Democratic National Committee. People do vote for people and it is expected that the Republicans will lose the House because Trump is a disaster. Seeing Trump disgrace the presidency, we are watching a train wreck in slow motion.

One can hope...because I think that, while it's slower, it's better when one party doesn't hold all the branches.
 
But all signs suggest that the DNC is poised to blow this unique moment and potentially guarantee the GOP increasing success over the next four years. This is so because the DNC has become immensely tone-deaf to its own internal problems.

Much has been made, for instance, of Trump’s historically low approval ratings, but less attention has been drawn to the fact that support for the DNC is even worse.

Trump currently has a 45.1 percent favorability rating, one of the lowest for any president in the history of polling. But Democrats fare worse. The DNC has only a 38.8 percent favorability rating.

A January Gallup poll indicated that party identification is at record lows, with 42 percent identifying as independents, 29 percent as Democrats, and 26 percent as Republicans. A recent Washington Post poll showed that the DNC trailed both Trump and the GOP when voters were asked if the party was “in touch” with their concerns. In fact, only 28 percent of those polled felt the party was connected with issues that matter to them.

Chris Cillizza notes that only 52 percent of self-identified Democrats said their party was in touch with peoples’ concerns, while 44 percent said it was out of touch: “Those numbers — particularly among Democrats — are striking. Party leaders in Washington have positioned the party as the voice of the little guy since the earliest days of the Trump presidency: Their side would be the one to stand up for the disenfranchised people in the country whose lives Trump neither cared about nor even thought much about.”

And yet, rather than face the extremely low support for the party, Democrats are busy avoiding and ignoring their own credibility problems. Even Hillary Clinton has refused to take any responsibility for losing the election, citing four external reasons for her loss: “Russian meddling in the election, FBI Director James Comey’s involvement toward the end of the race, WikiLeaks’ theft of emails from her campaign chairman, and misogyny.”


What’s amazing about this list is that there is no reference of any kind to the failures of the DNC itself. Clinton, like all party stalwarts, seems completely incapable of articulating any sort of reasonable assessment of the disasters of the last election.
The DNC’s elephant in the room: Dems have a problem — it’s not Donald Trump

They don't have any credibility. It isn't coming back any time soon.

The problem with Democrats is they are trying so hard to convince their constituents that they really didn't lose, so they don't focus on their own faults.

It's nothing new. They have been doing it for years. Trump won because of Russia which they can't really explain. Bush won because of the Supreme Court. Bush was reelected because he was friends with people at Diebold who manufactured the voting machines people had to get because Democrats complained about punch card ballots.

Then there are the other excuses such as Republicans win because of gerrymandering. Or Republicans won because of Voter-ID which is voter suppression. Or Republicans win because of big corporate money.

So the question is why does the DNC look for excuses instead of improvement? Because they can never tell their constituents that the country doesn't like their platform. If their constituents ever learned that, it would knock the wind out of their sails and they just might stop voting period.

Platforms over all are nothing more than a bunch of vague bs. Always have been. It's the actual policy and they want to stay as far away from that as possible.

The people of America are simply not ready for socialism, and hopefully never will be. We went to the polls looking at 20 trillion in debt and record number of new government dependents. When we do examine the DNC platform, many of us realize the Democrat party has become the anti-white party striving to make whites a minority in their very own country, and many are rejecting it.

As the old saying goes, excuses are like assholes; everybody has one. If the Democrats have any hope for the future, they better quit looking for excuses and start looking for answers.

If you vote for us, we will give you free shit paid for with other people's money.

That is the extent of the Dem platform.

The Democrat party relies on two major groups of people to gain or maintain power. Those two groups are government dependents and victims.

Victims love Democrats and Democrats love victims. So one of their strategies is to create more victims.

Victims of racial discrimination, victims of the gun lobby, victims of BIG PHARMA and BIG OIL, victims of the wealthy, victims of polluters, victims of anything.

Government dependency too is a strategy, and nobody has created more government dependents than DumBama. His administration proudly announced that they created 20 million more new government dependents with Commie Care. He created another 20 million more new government dependents with food stamps. Between those two programs alone, he created 40 million more government dependents we didn't have before he took office. That's quite an accomplishment for the Democrats.

Speaking of victims, don't you think that is exactly what the Republicans were appealing to this time? The "forgotten man" - the middle America white male blue collar worker who has been losing jobs steadily and missed out on the economic upturn.

Victims.

Republicans.
 
Yet the Republicans have only a 34.7 % favoribility rating.

I'm thinking third parties may gain...

A third party has no chance in this country. That's because most voters are concerned about who to keep out than who they get in.

The only way for a third party to have a chance is if both the Democrat and Republican party piss off their constituents so bad that there is no concern about keeping the other guy out of the race.

Sadly I think you have a point, but I wonder if we are coming to this? Consider this past election cycle - two horribly bad candidates where more people voted AGAINST the other candidate than FOR their candidate?

It's just not this election, it's been going on for some time.

I didn't vote for McCain, I voted against Obama. I didn't want Romney, but I voted for him to try and keep Obama out. I didn't vote for Trump, I voted to keep the Clinton's out of the White House.
 
It is a mistake to compare the ratings of an individual to those of an organization. People do not and cannot vote for the Democratic National Committee. People do vote for people and it is expected that the Republicans will lose the House because Trump is a disaster. Seeing Trump disgrace the presidency, we are watching a train wreck in slow motion.

He is not quite the disaster you wish he was. Frankly, that isn't enough to run on.
 
Yet the Republicans have only a 34.7 % favoribility rating.

I'm thinking third parties may gain...

A third party has no chance in this country. That's because most voters are concerned about who to keep out than who they get in.

The only way for a third party to have a chance is if both the Democrat and Republican party piss off their constituents so bad that there is no concern about keeping the other guy out of the race.

Sadly I think you have a point, but I wonder if we are coming to this? Consider this past election cycle - two horribly bad candidates where more people voted AGAINST the other candidate than FOR their candidate?

It's just not this election, it's been going on for some time.

I didn't vote for McCain, I voted against Obama. I didn't want Romney, but I voted for him to try and keep Obama out. I didn't vote for Trump, I voted to keep the Clinton's out of the White House.

Yet...

I voted FOR Obama - both times. As did many Obama supporters.

I can't say the same for this past election.

For prior ones...I voted FOR Gore. But I had no passion for Kerry, I voted AGAINST Bush.
 
Yet the Republicans have only a 34.7 % favoribility rating.

I'm thinking third parties may gain...

A third party has no chance in this country. That's because most voters are concerned about who to keep out than who they get in.

The only way for a third party to have a chance is if both the Democrat and Republican party piss off their constituents so bad that there is no concern about keeping the other guy out of the race.

Sadly I think you have a point, but I wonder if we are coming to this? Consider this past election cycle - two horribly bad candidates where more people voted AGAINST the other candidate than FOR their candidate?

It's just not this election, it's been going on for some time.

I didn't vote for McCain, I voted against Obama. I didn't want Romney, but I voted for him to try and keep Obama out. I didn't vote for Trump, I voted to keep the Clinton's out of the White House.

Yet...

I voted FOR Obama - both times. As did many Obama supporters.

I can't say the same for this past election.

For prior ones...I voted FOR Gore. But I had no passion for Kerry, I voted AGAINST Bush.
 
The problem with Democrats is they are trying so hard to convince their constituents that they really didn't lose, so they don't focus on their own faults.

It's nothing new. They have been doing it for years. Trump won because of Russia which they can't really explain. Bush won because of the Supreme Court. Bush was reelected because he was friends with people at Diebold who manufactured the voting machines people had to get because Democrats complained about punch card ballots.

Then there are the other excuses such as Republicans win because of gerrymandering. Or Republicans won because of Voter-ID which is voter suppression. Or Republicans win because of big corporate money.

So the question is why does the DNC look for excuses instead of improvement? Because they can never tell their constituents that the country doesn't like their platform. If their constituents ever learned that, it would knock the wind out of their sails and they just might stop voting period.

Platforms over all are nothing more than a bunch of vague bs. Always have been. It's the actual policy and they want to stay as far away from that as possible.

The people of America are simply not ready for socialism, and hopefully never will be. We went to the polls looking at 20 trillion in debt and record number of new government dependents. When we do examine the DNC platform, many of us realize the Democrat party has become the anti-white party striving to make whites a minority in their very own country, and many are rejecting it.

As the old saying goes, excuses are like assholes; everybody has one. If the Democrats have any hope for the future, they better quit looking for excuses and start looking for answers.

If you vote for us, we will give you free shit paid for with other people's money.

That is the extent of the Dem platform.

The Democrat party relies on two major groups of people to gain or maintain power. Those two groups are government dependents and victims.

Victims love Democrats and Democrats love victims. So one of their strategies is to create more victims.

Victims of racial discrimination, victims of the gun lobby, victims of BIG PHARMA and BIG OIL, victims of the wealthy, victims of polluters, victims of anything.

Government dependency too is a strategy, and nobody has created more government dependents than DumBama. His administration proudly announced that they created 20 million more new government dependents with Commie Care. He created another 20 million more new government dependents with food stamps. Between those two programs alone, he created 40 million more government dependents we didn't have before he took office. That's quite an accomplishment for the Democrats.

Speaking of victims, don't you think that is exactly what the Republicans were appealing to this time? The "forgotten man" - the middle America white male blue collar worker who has been losing jobs steadily and missed out on the economic upturn.

Victims.

Republicans.

That's not victimhood or creating more victims. The truth is that the jobs that were created were low paying or part-time jobs. If not for the energy expansion thanks to fracking, our country would have been in a real mess this past election and Trump would have one by a larger margin.
 
It is a mistake to compare the ratings of an individual to those of an organization. People do not and cannot vote for the Democratic National Committee. People do vote for people and it is expected that the Republicans will lose the House because Trump is a disaster. Seeing Trump disgrace the presidency, we are watching a train wreck in slow motion.

He is not quite the disaster you wish he was. Frankly, that isn't enough to run on.
If you think Trump is not a disaster, one has to wonder if you are awake.
 
The DNC is the democrats' worse nightmare.

As long as you allow the Clinton freeks to control the administration and fund raising, you will keep losing elections you should win handily.
I fucking hope so............
Yeah, and the GOP is stuck with a guy that has the FBI and the intel agencies and Congress AND lahota after him!

Yes, but you ran a candidate that had the FBI investigating her, and you still voted for the bitch.
Faye, you know you lie. I voted for McMullin, and you voted for a man who is going to be removed from office.
 
It is a mistake to compare the ratings of an individual to those of an organization. People do not and cannot vote for the Democratic National Committee. People do vote for people and it is expected that the Republicans will lose the House because Trump is a disaster. Seeing Trump disgrace the presidency, we are watching a train wreck in slow motion.

He is not quite the disaster you wish he was. Frankly, that isn't enough to run on.
If you think Trump is not a disaster, one has to wonder if you are awake.

He's not good but he isn't what you make him out to be. Again. Let me make this clear......I hate Trump is not enough for Democrats. If you can't figure that out then one has to wonder if you are awake.
 
Platforms over all are nothing more than a bunch of vague bs. Always have been. It's the actual policy and they want to stay as far away from that as possible.

The people of America are simply not ready for socialism, and hopefully never will be. We went to the polls looking at 20 trillion in debt and record number of new government dependents. When we do examine the DNC platform, many of us realize the Democrat party has become the anti-white party striving to make whites a minority in their very own country, and many are rejecting it.

As the old saying goes, excuses are like assholes; everybody has one. If the Democrats have any hope for the future, they better quit looking for excuses and start looking for answers.

If you vote for us, we will give you free shit paid for with other people's money.

That is the extent of the Dem platform.

The Democrat party relies on two major groups of people to gain or maintain power. Those two groups are government dependents and victims.

Victims love Democrats and Democrats love victims. So one of their strategies is to create more victims.

Victims of racial discrimination, victims of the gun lobby, victims of BIG PHARMA and BIG OIL, victims of the wealthy, victims of polluters, victims of anything.

Government dependency too is a strategy, and nobody has created more government dependents than DumBama. His administration proudly announced that they created 20 million more new government dependents with Commie Care. He created another 20 million more new government dependents with food stamps. Between those two programs alone, he created 40 million more government dependents we didn't have before he took office. That's quite an accomplishment for the Democrats.

Speaking of victims, don't you think that is exactly what the Republicans were appealing to this time? The "forgotten man" - the middle America white male blue collar worker who has been losing jobs steadily and missed out on the economic upturn.

Victims.

Republicans.

That's not victimhood or creating more victims. The truth is that the jobs that were created were low paying or part-time jobs. If not for the energy expansion thanks to fracking, our country would have been in a real mess this past election and Trump would have one by a larger margin.
Once again you are lying, Faye. Please give us an objective link to the jobs and types and numbers that were created.
 
It is a mistake to compare the ratings of an individual to those of an organization. People do not and cannot vote for the Democratic National Committee. People do vote for people and it is expected that the Republicans will lose the House because Trump is a disaster. Seeing Trump disgrace the presidency, we are watching a train wreck in slow motion.

He is not quite the disaster you wish he was. Frankly, that isn't enough to run on.
If you think Trump is not a disaster, one has to wonder if you are awake.

He's not good but he isn't what you make him out to be. Again. Let me make this clear......I hate Trump is not enough for Democrats. If you can't figure that out then one has to wonder if you are awake.
With Trump as President, the Democrats do not even need a manifesto.
 
It is a mistake to compare the ratings of an individual to those of an organization. People do not and cannot vote for the Democratic National Committee. People do vote for people and it is expected that the Republicans will lose the House because Trump is a disaster. Seeing Trump disgrace the presidency, we are watching a train wreck in slow motion.

He is not quite the disaster you wish he was. Frankly, that isn't enough to run on.
If you think Trump is not a disaster, one has to wonder if you are awake.

He's not good but he isn't what you make him out to be. Again. Let me make this clear......I hate Trump is not enough for Democrats. If you can't figure that out then one has to wonder if you are awake.
With Trump as President, the Democrats do not even need a manifesto.

Well, then don't be surprised when you clowns continue to lose.
 
The DNC is the democrats' worse nightmare.

As long as you allow the Clinton freeks to control the administration and fund raising, you will keep losing elections you should win handily.
I fucking hope so............
Yeah, and the GOP is stuck with a guy that has the FBI and the intel agencies and Congress AND lahota after him!

Yes, but you ran a candidate that had the FBI investigating her, and you still voted for the bitch.
Faye, you know you lie. I voted for McMullin, and you voted for a man who is going to be removed from office.

Removed by whom? You do know there is a Republican leadership in Congress, don't you? You do realize there is a Republican leadership in the Senate, don't you? You do realize that the RNC is on pins and needles since the constituency rejected the establishment and voted in an outsider, don't you?
 

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