The election is over so why is social media still banning/deleting posts they deem wrong?

[dblack]

It's fine to think that FB and Twitter are providing a shitty service because of their censorship policies. And it's fine to complain about it. But the urge to "crack down" on them with government is straight-up, big government liberalism. It's hilarious, and predictably hypocritical, that people who like to think of themselves as conservatives or libertarians are so hell bent on this.

What about rule 230, asshole? Is that compatible with freedom?

Don't know. Don't care. It's a made excuse so you guys can get your petty revenge. What you really want is to force Facebook to publish your horseshit.

 

[colfax_m]

These Censorious Social Media Bastards do not fit in our Free Society.

Of course they do. Freedom means that they are not obligated to support your message.

Freedom to speak also means freedom to not speak.

So you support giant corporations denying public services in order enforce political viewpoint compliance?

Public service?

It’s Facebook, not electricity. Get some perspective.

 

[Dragonlady]

The election has been over for six weeks ....why are Republicans still spreading lies?

Who cares. Why do democrats feel they need to silence people. Seems fascist to me.

Lots of people care. There are far too many gullible fools such as yourself who will believe anything, and worse still act on it. Every day you fools come here and post links to bullshit articles posted by tin foil hat conspiracy websites, and swear that this stuff is really happening.

The partisan divide has been fuelled by generations of right wing hate radio lying to voters in the fly-over states who call those on the left "communists", and femi-nazi's, and fuelling white male grievance. Every day posters here want the left to be eliminated, or gotten rid of in some way.

Recent studies in European have noted the slide of the Republican Party into right wing authoritarianism - noteably, their lack of tolerance for those who criticize Donald Trump, and Trump's vilification of Republicans who dare contradict or even disagree with him.

 

[colfax_m]

It also means they are not entitled to government protection from lawsuits, turd.

Why do you lunatics insist on suing everyone?

Don’t you have something useful to contribute to society?

 

[Zorro!]

These Censorious Social Media Bastards do not fit in our Free Society.

Of course they do. Freedom means that they are not obligated to support your message.

Freedom to speak also means freedom to not speak.

So you support giant corporations denying public services in order enforce political viewpoint compliance?

Public service?

It’s Facebook, not electricity. Get some perspective.

Neither are stores, motels, hotels, or bakers.

 

[bripat9643]

Whats the goal here?

They don’t want to be a hotbed of conspiratorial nonsense.

You mean they want to suppress opinions and information they disagree with.

Who do you think you're fooling?

I mean that they are a business and advertisers don’t like their ads appearing on the pages of lunatics.

There are plenty of advertisers what would love to have their ads posted on rightwing pages.

You idiots kill me when you display your naked hatred for freedom of speech.

Why do you call yourselves "liberal" or "progressive?" Stalinists is what you are.

Not enough to pay the bills for the torrent of bullshit you lunatics put in the internet.

We are talking about massive companies, not stupid little right wing blogs.

The hatred of freedom comes from you thugs who demand social media do as you say.

Yeah, right. Censorship means freedom. War is peace.

Freedom of speech costs nothing. Censorship is what requires massive armies of Stalinist douchebags.

You're the lowest bucket of piss in the universe.

But you’re forgetting that this “censorship” isn’t occurring in the public sphere. It’s not occurring on government property.

It’s occurring on private servers paid for by private money. You are a thug trying to tell people what to do with their property. Because you know what? Running a massive website isn’t actually free!

It's occuring with government protection, scumbag. The cost of lawyers isn't free when the government isn't protecting you from lawsuits.

No one needs government to protect them from the consequences of chucking you lunatics off their property. That’s their constitutional right to do so.

The you should support terminating Section 230. Why are you fighting so hard to defend it?

Because the internet would be a steaming pile of shit without it.

You lunatics would burn it all down.

YEs, I imagine from the point of view of a bootlicking Stalinist dirtbag, it would be a pile of shit. However, now it's a pile of shit for anyone who isn't a brainwashed minion of the deep state.

The Stalinist is the one who wants to force private individuals to do to your bidding.

I have no intention of forcing them to do my bidding. I just don't want them protected from lawsuits while they persecute half the population of this country.

That argument is completely fake. You all are pissed off at Facebook and Twitter because they're flagging your posts for the bullshit they are, and you want big daddy government to punish them. Same old statist crap - using the government to bully people you don't like.

But, I know, it's different when you do it.

Then you won't have any trouble endorsing the repeal of Section 230, right?

 

[bripat9643]

It also means they are not entitled to government protection from lawsuits, turd.

Why do you lunatics insist on suing everyone?

Don’t you have something useful to contribute to society?

You don't believe Facebook and Google should be subject to the same laws as everyone else?

 

[bripat9643]

Whats the goal here?

Suppress anger from the right befor the runoff senate race?

Force congress to break them up/strip them of protections?

Think they can permanently control public discourse if they just keep the propaganda machine oiled with the fresh remains of the 1st amendment?

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Seriously can't say this loud enough....

FUCK THESE COMPANIES!

Jesus... then don’t use them!! If they don’t want porn on their sites then thats their call. If they don’t want beheadings on their sites then fine. If they don’t want people posting fake/misleading videos that undermine an election then that is also their call. Don’t like it? Then go somewhere else. I’m sure trumps site will be up in a couple months. You can slurp up all the lies that you want there.

Man, that sounds awfully familiar. They are the same arguments supporters of those bakers used when they were shouted at about public accommodation.

Exactly the same arguments. Flaming hypocrites on both sides. With the exception of tiny handful of genuine libertarians, pretty much everyone sees the government as a way to get one over on the other guy.

No, the hypocrites are all on the left and the fake libertarians.

 

[colfax_m]

These Censorious Social Media Bastards do not fit in our Free Society.

Of course they do. Freedom means that they are not obligated to support your message.

Freedom to speak also means freedom to not speak.

So you support giant corporations denying public services in order enforce political viewpoint compliance?

Public service?

It’s Facebook, not electricity. Get some perspective.

Neither are stores, motels, hotels, or bakers.

You sure? How am I supposed to eat if I can’t got to a store or place that serves food?

Seems like eating is a pretty vital thing.

Not to mention that public accommodation laws don’t protect people from discrimination based on political ideology.

 

[colfax_m]

It also means they are not entitled to government protection from lawsuits, turd.

Why do you lunatics insist on suing everyone?

Don’t you have something useful to contribute to society?

You don't believe Facebook and Google should be subject to the same laws as everyone else?

They are subject to the same laws as any other website.

 

[Zorro!]

The election has been over for six weeks ....why are Republicans still spreading lies?

Who cares. Why do democrats feel they need to silence people. Seems fascist to me.

Lots of people care. There are far too many gullible fools such as yourself who will believe anything, and worse still act on it. Every day you fools come here and post links to bullshit articles posted by tin foil hat conspiracy websites, and swear that this stuff is really happening.

The partisan divide has been fuelled by generations of right wing hate radio lying to voters in the fly-over states who call those on the left "communists", and femi-nazi's, and fuelling white male grievance. Every day posters here want the left to be eliminated, or gotten rid of in some way.

Recent studies in European have noted the slide of the Republican Party into right wing authoritarianism - noteably, their lack of tolerance for those who criticize Donald Trump, and Trump's vilification of Republicans who dare contradict or even disagree with him.

And yet, nobody gets fired for critizing anyone on the Right.

MAKE THEM PAY: Educator forced to resign for publicly criticizing Black Lives Matter, lawsuit alleges.

First Amendment retaliation

School district officials Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, have a bit of a problem with public school educators who share conservative views on their OWN personal social media accounts.

The College Fix recently noted the story of Principal Amy Sacks of the Perkiomen Valley School District who was fired for posting conservative memes on her Facebook account. Sacks is suing for First and Fourteenth Amendment violations, as well as for political retaliation.

Now, just a few miles away in the neighboring North Penn School District, a longtime educator there is suing that district for similar reasons.

According to The Reporter, Ashley Bennett, a special education supervisor with 27 years of service, was forced to resign in July due to a Facebook post criticizing Black Lives Matter and various race protests and riots.

MAKE THE CENSORIOUS LEFTWING BASTARDS PAY.

 

[BlindBoo]

What is it about the freedom of the press that you don't understand.

It's not free if the powers that be can force them to publish what it wants.

What we have has not been freedom of the press for many decades. All of this cable and satellite TV and all of this social media. It has good points....and it has bad points that is tearing us apart for pushed political views. We were better off with a few networks and a few UHF type stations in many areas.

I disagree. In the early days, nationwide communication networks were treated differently than the printed media, with good reason.

American thought and American politics will be largely at the mercy of those who operate these stations, for publicity is the most powerful weapon that can be wielded in a republic. And when such a weapon is placed in the hands of one person, or a single selfish group is permitted to either tacitly or otherwise acquire ownership or dominate these broadcasting stations throughout the country, then woe be to those who dare to differ with them. It will be impossible to compete with them in reaching the ears of the American people.
Rep. Luther Johnson (D.-Texas), in the debate that preceded the Radio Act of 1927

While I don't agree with this authors conclusion the article gives some good history. Americans just need to smarten up or be left in the dust bin.....

The Fairness Doctrine: How We Lost It and Why We Need It Back

American thought and American politics will be largely at the mercy of those who operate these stations, for publicity is the most powerful weapon that can be wielded in a republic. And when such a…

sisyphuslitmag.org

 

[BertramN]

Whats the goal here?

Suppress anger from the right befor the runoff senate race?

Force congress to break them up/strip them of protections?

Think they can permanently control public discourse if they just keep the propaganda machine oiled with the fresh remains of the 1st amendment?

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Seriously can't say this loud enough....

FUCK THESE COMPANIES!

It's not to suppress the anger of the RWNJs. Like everyone else, after four long years of the impeached president trump's "inspirational" speeches to them, social media moderators are just as tired of the right-wingers' constant stupidity as the rest of America.

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[Zorro!]

These Censorious Social Media Bastards do not fit in our Free Society.

Of course they do. Freedom means that they are not obligated to support your message.

Freedom to speak also means freedom to not speak.

So you support giant corporations denying public services in order enforce political viewpoint compliance?

Public service?

It’s Facebook, not electricity. Get some perspective.

Neither are stores, motels, hotels, or bakers.

You sure? How am I supposed to eat if I can’t got to a store or place that serves food?

Seems like eating is a pretty vital thing.

Not to mention that public accommodation laws don’t protect people from discrimination based on political ideology.

So you are good with banks refusing to do business with people over their political viewpoint?

What about red lining Red or Blue Neighborhoods?

And Educator was fired for posting this on her OWN personal social media

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Do you support firing her for that?

 

[BlindBoo]

What is it about the freedom of the press that you don't understand.

It's not free if the powers that be can force them to publish what it wants.

What is it about government protection from lawsuits that makes you believe it's compatible with so-called "freedom of the press?"

Those protections have nothing to do with whether or not a platform has the right to delete your content or allow you on their platform if you violate their tos.

 

[colfax_m]

These Censorious Social Media Bastards do not fit in our Free Society.

Of course they do. Freedom means that they are not obligated to support your message.

Freedom to speak also means freedom to not speak.

So you support giant corporations denying public services in order enforce political viewpoint compliance?

Public service?

It’s Facebook, not electricity. Get some perspective.

Neither are stores, motels, hotels, or bakers.

You sure? How am I supposed to eat if I can’t got to a store or place that serves food?

Seems like eating is a pretty vital thing.

Not to mention that public accommodation laws don’t protect people from discrimination based on political ideology.

So you are good with banks refusing to do business with people over their political viewpoint?

What about red lining Red or Blue Neighborhoods?

And Educator was fired for posting this on her OWN personal social media

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Do you support firing her for that?

Again, it’s just Facebook you lunatics.

 

[dblack]

Whats the goal here?

They don’t want to be a hotbed of conspiratorial nonsense.

You mean they want to suppress opinions and information they disagree with.

Who do you think you're fooling?

I mean that they are a business and advertisers don’t like their ads appearing on the pages of lunatics.

There are plenty of advertisers what would love to have their ads posted on rightwing pages.

You idiots kill me when you display your naked hatred for freedom of speech.

Why do you call yourselves "liberal" or "progressive?" Stalinists is what you are.

Not enough to pay the bills for the torrent of bullshit you lunatics put in the internet.

We are talking about massive companies, not stupid little right wing blogs.

The hatred of freedom comes from you thugs who demand social media do as you say.

Yeah, right. Censorship means freedom. War is peace.

Freedom of speech costs nothing. Censorship is what requires massive armies of Stalinist douchebags.

You're the lowest bucket of piss in the universe.

But you’re forgetting that this “censorship” isn’t occurring in the public sphere. It’s not occurring on government property.

It’s occurring on private servers paid for by private money. You are a thug trying to tell people what to do with their property. Because you know what? Running a massive website isn’t actually free!

It's occuring with government protection, scumbag. The cost of lawyers isn't free when the government isn't protecting you from lawsuits.

No one needs government to protect them from the consequences of chucking you lunatics off their property. That’s their constitutional right to do so.

The you should support terminating Section 230. Why are you fighting so hard to defend it?

Because the internet would be a steaming pile of shit without it.

You lunatics would burn it all down.

YEs, I imagine from the point of view of a bootlicking Stalinist dirtbag, it would be a pile of shit. However, now it's a pile of shit for anyone who isn't a brainwashed minion of the deep state.

The Stalinist is the one who wants to force private individuals to do to your bidding.

I have no intention of forcing them to do my bidding. I just don't want them protected from lawsuits while they persecute half the population of this country.

That argument is completely fake. You all are pissed off at Facebook and Twitter because they're flagging your posts for the bullshit they are, and you want big daddy government to punish them. Same old statist crap - using the government to bully people you don't like.

But, I know, it's different when you do it.

Then you won't have any trouble endorsing the repeal of Section 230, right?

I'm not interested in Trump's petty, political revenge schemes.

 

[BlindBoo]

These Censorious Social Media Bastards do not fit in our Free Society.

Of course they do. Freedom means that they are not obligated to support your message.

Freedom to speak also means freedom to not speak.

So you support giant corporations denying public services in order enforce political viewpoint compliance?

Public service?

It’s Facebook, not electricity. Get some perspective.

Neither are stores, motels, hotels, or bakers.

You sure? How am I supposed to eat if I can’t got to a store or place that serves food?

Seems like eating is a pretty vital thing.

Not to mention that public accommodation laws don’t protect people from discrimination based on political ideology.

So you are good with banks refusing to do business with people over their political viewpoint?

What about red lining Red or Blue Neighborhoods?

And Educator was fired for posting this on her OWN personal social media

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Do you support firing her for that?

Well it is pretty hateful, especially the bit about the black babies. Parents love their babies no matter what color they are.

 

[Dragonlady]

These Censorious Social Media Bastards do not fit in our Free Society.

Of course they do. Freedom means that they are not obligated to support your message.

Freedom to speak also means freedom to not speak.

So you support giant corporations denying public services in order enforce political viewpoint compliance?

Public service?

It’s Facebook, not electricity. Get some perspective.

Neither are stores, motels, hotels, or bakers.

You had no problem with Chick-Fil-a imposing and enforcing their political viewpoint. You even encourage people to patronize these toxic bigotted businesses. Or Holly Hobby denying their female employees coverage for their reproductive health needs.

It seems you have no problem with large corporation enforcing their political stances when they espouse toxic Republican policy platforms. You don't refer to them as "nazis" or accuse them of "enforcing political compliance". You demanded that the NFL fire players who "took a knee".

FaceBook isn't removing posts and videos because they are "conservative". They're removing posts that are proveably false. Lies, distortions and political propaganda. The lie has to be really big and/or dangerous to get posts removed from FaceBook. Both liberal and conservative lies and progaganda re flagged and/or removed.

The fact that conservatives feel "picked on" is that conservatives posters don't fact check, and they don't question anything they agree with. You point of view isn't being stifled, only things that you post which are proveably false.

I sit here all day long fact checking the assertions and claims made by right wing posters here. You beg people to lie to you and you dismiss them as "fake news" if they don't tell you what you want to hear. Look at how many of you have abandoned FOX just because they told you the truth - Joe Biden won the election.

You don't want facts of information. You want confirmation of your beliefs. If you don't get it, you get pissy and insult people.

 

[hadit]

These Censorious Social Media Bastards do not fit in our Free Society.

Of course they do. Freedom means that they are not obligated to support your message.

Freedom to speak also means freedom to not speak.

So you support giant corporations denying public services in order enforce political viewpoint compliance?

Public service?

It’s Facebook, not electricity. Get some perspective.

Neither are stores, motels, hotels, or bakers.

You sure? How am I supposed to eat if I can’t got to a store or place that serves food?

Seems like eating is a pretty vital thing.

Not to mention that public accommodation laws don’t protect people from discrimination based on political ideology.

Do you mean to tell me that a baker could refuse to bake a wedding cake for a customer wearing a Joe Biden t-shirt and not have the usual suspects weeping and wailing at his doorstep?