The End Of The Nightmare

[IcebergSlim]

The budget and national debt are two entirely different animals.

The national debt is in astronomical numbers and rising.

The interest alone on the national debt is bankrupting us.

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

What will the national debt be when he leaves office?

How much money has he given away to foreign governments?

How much has he spent on senseless deadly costly wars?

How many mosques has he built on foreign soil?

How many luxury vacations has his wife and daughters taken?

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

Go on, Sonny.....give it a shot....

It's all a matter of record, public record, and easily researched.

Do you expect me to do the research for you?

Federal Debt, Deficits and Spending
Debt – The U.S. government’s debt owed to the public has more than doubled. It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

And the debt also has grown dramatically even when measured as a percentage of the growing economy, from 52 percent of gross domestic product at the end of fiscal year 2009 to just under 74 percent at the end of fiscal 2015, according to the most recent estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

Spending – Federal spending, however, has increased much less. Total federal outlays in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30 last year totaled just under $3.69 trillion, according to final U.S. Treasury figures. That’s just 4.8 percent above the total outlays for fiscal 2009, which was well underway when Obama took office.

To be sure, Obama was responsible for some of the FY 2009 spending, but as we’ve shown in detail elsewhere, his early spending initiatives added — at most — $203 billion to the fiscal year 2009 spending levels that were set before he took office. Even attributing that extra FY 2009 spending to Obama brings the total increase in outlays since he took office to 11.3 percent over the level he inherited.

Massive federal deficits continue: The final figure for FY 2015 was $438.9 billion. That was about $44.5 billion less than the shortfall in fiscal year 2014, but CBO projects that without further spending cuts or revenue increases, deficits will soon be growing larger again, and will top $1 trillion in FY 2025.

Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, currently stands at nearly $18.9 trillion, up nearly 78 percent under Obama.

Obama’s Numbers (January 2016 Update)

That doesn't answer the question.....pay close attention to how this is phrased...

It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

Next, you want to learn about "structural deficits".....

Once you've done so, we can take another look - 'k?

Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, currently stands at nearly $18.9 trillion, up nearly 78 percent under Obama.

Still haven't answered the question....

Did you learn anything about "structural deficits"?

 

[1stRambo]

I was told the original title was "trolling" so new title SAME content.

As we all to slowly come to the end of this political nightmare called Obama I think its only right to addressed the political highlights of this nightmare we call government by democrats.

ECONOMICS
Now our current crap fest in charge has set a new record, never done before in the entire history of our beloved United States. No president has ever done it despite depressions, recessions or even war. Obama presided over not one but two of the only credit downgrades of our country in its entire history.

Congress took the blame for the downgrades, but whether you acknowledge that or not, do you know what the current rating is?
BTW, have you looked at the stock markets lately. There are some records being broken there too.

Yo, wipe the sleep out of your eyes, this is reality!

The Dot-com Bubble was a speculative bubble in the shares of early internet companies called “Dot-coms.” From the mid to late-1990s, technology company stocks in the Nasdaq stock index soared to incredible heights,
making scores of investors and technology company founders extremely wealthy. At this time, many people began to believe that technology had led to the creation of a “New Economy” where the traditional business cycle and recessions were a thing of the past. These “New Economy” beliefs led to excessive risk-taking in business and investments as Dot-com companies went public (such as the infamous Pets.com and Webvan) even though they had negative earnings or astronomically high business valuations. In early 2000, the technology stock bubble crashed spectacularly as the Nasdaq plunged from 5,000 to nearly 1,000 by 2002 and the U.S. economy was hurled into a recession.

Anytime now, just waiting?

"GTP"
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Go back to threading your chest, meathead....

Reality check: A good barometer of how expensive stocks are is to look at the so-called P/E ratio. It's a way to see how much higher the stock price (the P in the equation) is compared to the actual earnings (the E in the equation) of companies.


In March 2000, the P/E for the Nasdaq was a sky-high 175, according to data pulled by Nasdaq and Bloomberg that looks at earnings from the prior 12 months.


Compare that to today: the P/E now is just under 32.

Reality check: Tech stocks aren't at bubble levels​

Toddsterpatriot could you jump in and explain the overall market to slime here?
Thanks.

He can't......trust me.........I'm familiar with his oeuvre......

Yo,

Beware of the Post-2009 Economic Bubbles
The Economic Recovery is Actually a “Bubblecovery”
TheBubbleBubble.com - Warning About Post-2009 Economic Bubbles

"GTP"
Let`s Pray:

 

[Sonny Clark]

The budget and national debt are two entirely different animals.

The national debt is in astronomical numbers and rising.

The interest alone on the national debt is bankrupting us.

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

What will the national debt be when he leaves office?

How much money has he given away to foreign governments?

How much has he spent on senseless deadly costly wars?

How many mosques has he built on foreign soil?

How many luxury vacations has his wife and daughters taken?

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

Go on, Sonny.....give it a shot....

It's all a matter of record, public record, and easily researched.

Do you expect me to do the research for you?

Federal Debt, Deficits and Spending
Debt – The U.S. government’s debt owed to the public has more than doubled. It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

And the debt also has grown dramatically even when measured as a percentage of the growing economy, from 52 percent of gross domestic product at the end of fiscal year 2009 to just under 74 percent at the end of fiscal 2015, according to the most recent estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

Spending – Federal spending, however, has increased much less. Total federal outlays in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30 last year totaled just under $3.69 trillion, according to final U.S. Treasury figures. That’s just 4.8 percent above the total outlays for fiscal 2009, which was well underway when Obama took office.

To be sure, Obama was responsible for some of the FY 2009 spending, but as we’ve shown in detail elsewhere, his early spending initiatives added — at most — $203 billion to the fiscal year 2009 spending levels that were set before he took office. Even attributing that extra FY 2009 spending to Obama brings the total increase in outlays since he took office to 11.3 percent over the level he inherited.

Massive federal deficits continue: The final figure for FY 2015 was $438.9 billion. That was about $44.5 billion less than the shortfall in fiscal year 2014, but CBO projects that without further spending cuts or revenue increases, deficits will soon be growing larger again, and will top $1 trillion in FY 2025.

Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, currently stands at nearly $18.9 trillion, up nearly 78 percent under Obama.

Obama’s Numbers (January 2016 Update)

That doesn't answer the question.....pay close attention to how this is phrased...

It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

Next, you want to learn about "structural deficits".....

Once you've done so, we can take another look - 'k?

Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, currently stands at nearly $18.9 trillion, up nearly 78 percent under Obama.

Still haven't answered the question....

Did you learn anything about "structural deficits"?

Look, please understand this, please:
I'm talking about the NATIONAL DEBT, and NOT a damn DEFICIT !!!!!!

I NEVER MENTIONED A DAMN DEFICIT.

I DID MENTION THE NATIONAL DEBT !!!!!!

Try reading comprehension, it will do you good.

Deficit and debt are two different animals, as I have said already. The national debt is NOT the yearly deficit.

What are you having trouble understanding?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I was told the original title was "trolling" so new title SAME content.

As we all to slowly come to the end of this political nightmare called Obama I think its only right to addressed the political highlights of this nightmare we call government by democrats.

ECONOMICS
Now our current crap fest in charge has set a new record, never done before in the entire history of our beloved United States. No president has ever done it despite depressions, recessions or even war. Obama presided over not one but two of the only credit downgrades of our country in its entire history.

HOSTAGES
No president since James Earl "Jimmy" Carter has presided over more Americans taken hostage by Islamic countries or any country for that matter. There are as a matter of fact STILL American hostages in Iran that have been held LONGER than those held by Iran during Carter.

ISLAMIC STATE ATTACKS IN COUNTRY
Not by body count but by number of attacks from outside terrorists no president has ever presided over such a massive increase while doing nothing. Islamic State attacks have become so permitted by this president we know longer wonder "if" but "when".

DOMESTIC TERRORISTS ATTACKS
NO President has presided over the killing of white minority groups in this country in its entire history. The Orlando killing of homo's while Islamic fueled was designed, plotted and carried out and in fact killed more white homo's then the riots at Stonewall.

The community center in San Bernardino was a center for working with the retarded. So Obama gets yet another first. No president has presided over a larger mass killing of retards in the history of the United States.

Hostage taking
+
Homo's killed
+
Retards killed
+
Economy destroyed
---------------------------------
Islamic Operative

Just the math.

Fury

Economy destroyed

so you won't embarrass yourself again, allow me to show you what "economy destroyed" looks like

Any questions?

With all his deficit spending, why does Obama have the weakest recovery ever?

Thanks for showing, maybe you can explain to Slime.

He hasn't really said anything stupid about the market yet.

 

[Sonny Clark]

The budget and national debt are two entirely different animals.

The national debt is in astronomical numbers and rising.

The interest alone on the national debt is bankrupting us.

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

What will the national debt be when he leaves office?

How much money has he given away to foreign governments?

How much has he spent on senseless deadly costly wars?

How many mosques has he built on foreign soil?

How many luxury vacations has his wife and daughters taken?

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

Go on, Sonny.....give it a shot....

It's all a matter of record, public record, and easily researched.

Do you expect me to do the research for you?

Federal Debt, Deficits and Spending
Debt – The U.S. government’s debt owed to the public has more than doubled. It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

And the debt also has grown dramatically even when measured as a percentage of the growing economy, from 52 percent of gross domestic product at the end of fiscal year 2009 to just under 74 percent at the end of fiscal 2015, according to the most recent estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

Spending – Federal spending, however, has increased much less. Total federal outlays in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30 last year totaled just under $3.69 trillion, according to final U.S. Treasury figures. That’s just 4.8 percent above the total outlays for fiscal 2009, which was well underway when Obama took office.

To be sure, Obama was responsible for some of the FY 2009 spending, but as we’ve shown in detail elsewhere, his early spending initiatives added — at most — $203 billion to the fiscal year 2009 spending levels that were set before he took office. Even attributing that extra FY 2009 spending to Obama brings the total increase in outlays since he took office to 11.3 percent over the level he inherited.

Massive federal deficits continue: The final figure for FY 2015 was $438.9 billion. That was about $44.5 billion less than the shortfall in fiscal year 2014, but CBO projects that without further spending cuts or revenue increases, deficits will soon be growing larger again, and will top $1 trillion in FY 2025.

Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, currently stands at nearly $18.9 trillion, up nearly 78 percent under Obama.

Obama’s Numbers (January 2016 Update)

That doesn't answer the question.....pay close attention to how this is phrased...

It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

Next, you want to learn about "structural deficits".....

Once you've done so, we can take another look - 'k?

Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, currently stands at nearly $18.9 trillion, up nearly 78 percent under Obama.

Still haven't answered the question....

Did you learn anything about "structural deficits"?

I have answered the original question concerning the national debt. You're original question was about the national debt. Go back and read the original question.

I have posted links that explains the astronomical and rising national debt, and the increases under Mr. Obama. Read the damn links that I gave you.

 

[IcebergSlim]

I was told the original title was "trolling" so new title SAME content.

As we all to slowly come to the end of this political nightmare called Obama I think its only right to addressed the political highlights of this nightmare we call government by democrats.

ECONOMICS
Now our current crap fest in charge has set a new record, never done before in the entire history of our beloved United States. No president has ever done it despite depressions, recessions or even war. Obama presided over not one but two of the only credit downgrades of our country in its entire history.

HOSTAGES
No president since James Earl "Jimmy" Carter has presided over more Americans taken hostage by Islamic countries or any country for that matter. There are as a matter of fact STILL American hostages in Iran that have been held LONGER than those held by Iran during Carter.

ISLAMIC STATE ATTACKS IN COUNTRY
Not by body count but by number of attacks from outside terrorists no president has ever presided over such a massive increase while doing nothing. Islamic State attacks have become so permitted by this president we know longer wonder "if" but "when".

DOMESTIC TERRORISTS ATTACKS
NO President has presided over the killing of white minority groups in this country in its entire history. The Orlando killing of homo's while Islamic fueled was designed, plotted and carried out and in fact killed more white homo's then the riots at Stonewall.

The community center in San Bernardino was a center for working with the retarded. So Obama gets yet another first. No president has presided over a larger mass killing of retards in the history of the United States.

Hostage taking
+
Homo's killed
+
Retards killed
+
Economy destroyed
---------------------------------
Islamic Operative

Just the math.

Fury

Economy destroyed

so you won't embarrass yourself again, allow me to show you what "economy destroyed" looks like

Any questions?

With all his deficit spending, why does Obama have the weakest recovery ever?

TDog,

Tell everyone whether the red line is ABOVE or BELOW the green line.....

When you're done, would you please explain "structural deficit" to Sonny? I don't know if I've got long enough to live....

 

[IcebergSlim]

I was told the original title was "trolling" so new title SAME content.

As we all to slowly come to the end of this political nightmare called Obama I think its only right to addressed the political highlights of this nightmare we call government by democrats.

ECONOMICS
Now our current crap fest in charge has set a new record, never done before in the entire history of our beloved United States. No president has ever done it despite depressions, recessions or even war. Obama presided over not one but two of the only credit downgrades of our country in its entire history.

HOSTAGES
No president since James Earl "Jimmy" Carter has presided over more Americans taken hostage by Islamic countries or any country for that matter. There are as a matter of fact STILL American hostages in Iran that have been held LONGER than those held by Iran during Carter.

ISLAMIC STATE ATTACKS IN COUNTRY
Not by body count but by number of attacks from outside terrorists no president has ever presided over such a massive increase while doing nothing. Islamic State attacks have become so permitted by this president we know longer wonder "if" but "when".

DOMESTIC TERRORISTS ATTACKS
NO President has presided over the killing of white minority groups in this country in its entire history. The Orlando killing of homo's while Islamic fueled was designed, plotted and carried out and in fact killed more white homo's then the riots at Stonewall.

The community center in San Bernardino was a center for working with the retarded. So Obama gets yet another first. No president has presided over a larger mass killing of retards in the history of the United States.

Hostage taking
+
Homo's killed
+
Retards killed
+
Economy destroyed
---------------------------------
Islamic Operative

Just the math.

Fury

Economy destroyed

so you won't embarrass yourself again, allow me to show you what "economy destroyed" looks like

Any questions?

With all his deficit spending, why does Obama have the weakest recovery ever?

Thanks for showing, maybe you can explain to Slime.

He hasn't really said anything stupid about the market yet.

Gonna be a long wait......

 

[Sonny Clark]

National Debt Under Obama

Depending on who you talk to, President Obama added anywhere from $983 billion to $7.7 trillion to the national debt. Who's lying? None of them. That's because there are three ways to look at the debt added for any President.

Method 1. Debt Added Since Obama Took Office
The first, and largest, is how much debt has been added since Obama took office. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. Today it's slightly more than $19 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added nearly $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other President. For more, see Why Is the U.S. Debt So Large?

How Much Did Obama Really Add to the Nation's Debt?

 

[IcebergSlim]

The budget and national debt are two entirely different animals.

The national debt is in astronomical numbers and rising.

The interest alone on the national debt is bankrupting us.

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

What will the national debt be when he leaves office?

How much money has he given away to foreign governments?

How much has he spent on senseless deadly costly wars?

How many mosques has he built on foreign soil?

How many luxury vacations has his wife and daughters taken?

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

Go on, Sonny.....give it a shot....

It's all a matter of record, public record, and easily researched.

Do you expect me to do the research for you?

Federal Debt, Deficits and Spending
Debt – The U.S. government’s debt owed to the public has more than doubled. It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

And the debt also has grown dramatically even when measured as a percentage of the growing economy, from 52 percent of gross domestic product at the end of fiscal year 2009 to just under 74 percent at the end of fiscal 2015, according to the most recent estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

Spending – Federal spending, however, has increased much less. Total federal outlays in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30 last year totaled just under $3.69 trillion, according to final U.S. Treasury figures. That’s just 4.8 percent above the total outlays for fiscal 2009, which was well underway when Obama took office.

To be sure, Obama was responsible for some of the FY 2009 spending, but as we’ve shown in detail elsewhere, his early spending initiatives added — at most — $203 billion to the fiscal year 2009 spending levels that were set before he took office. Even attributing that extra FY 2009 spending to Obama brings the total increase in outlays since he took office to 11.3 percent over the level he inherited.

Massive federal deficits continue: The final figure for FY 2015 was $438.9 billion. That was about $44.5 billion less than the shortfall in fiscal year 2014, but CBO projects that without further spending cuts or revenue increases, deficits will soon be growing larger again, and will top $1 trillion in FY 2025.

Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, currently stands at nearly $18.9 trillion, up nearly 78 percent under Obama.

Obama’s Numbers (January 2016 Update)

That doesn't answer the question.....pay close attention to how this is phrased...

It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

Next, you want to learn about "structural deficits".....

Once you've done so, we can take another look - 'k?

I'm talking about the national DEBT.
YOUR QUESTION: - How much has Obama added to the national debt?

I gave you the answer.

Sonny,

Take a careful look at this...

How much has Obama added to the national debt

then go back to your citation and see if you can locate that particular construction anywhere...

 

[Sonny Clark]

The budget and national debt are two entirely different animals.

The national debt is in astronomical numbers and rising.

The interest alone on the national debt is bankrupting us.

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

What will the national debt be when he leaves office?

How much money has he given away to foreign governments?

How much has he spent on senseless deadly costly wars?

How many mosques has he built on foreign soil?

How many luxury vacations has his wife and daughters taken?

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

Go on, Sonny.....give it a shot....

It's all a matter of record, public record, and easily researched.

Do you expect me to do the research for you?

Federal Debt, Deficits and Spending
Debt – The U.S. government’s debt owed to the public has more than doubled. It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

And the debt also has grown dramatically even when measured as a percentage of the growing economy, from 52 percent of gross domestic product at the end of fiscal year 2009 to just under 74 percent at the end of fiscal 2015, according to the most recent estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

Spending – Federal spending, however, has increased much less. Total federal outlays in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30 last year totaled just under $3.69 trillion, according to final U.S. Treasury figures. That’s just 4.8 percent above the total outlays for fiscal 2009, which was well underway when Obama took office.

To be sure, Obama was responsible for some of the FY 2009 spending, but as we’ve shown in detail elsewhere, his early spending initiatives added — at most — $203 billion to the fiscal year 2009 spending levels that were set before he took office. Even attributing that extra FY 2009 spending to Obama brings the total increase in outlays since he took office to 11.3 percent over the level he inherited.

Massive federal deficits continue: The final figure for FY 2015 was $438.9 billion. That was about $44.5 billion less than the shortfall in fiscal year 2014, but CBO projects that without further spending cuts or revenue increases, deficits will soon be growing larger again, and will top $1 trillion in FY 2025.

Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, currently stands at nearly $18.9 trillion, up nearly 78 percent under Obama.

Obama’s Numbers (January 2016 Update)

That doesn't answer the question.....pay close attention to how this is phrased...

It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

Next, you want to learn about "structural deficits".....

Once you've done so, we can take another look - 'k?

I'm talking about the national DEBT.
YOUR QUESTION: - How much has Obama added to the national debt?

I gave you the answer.

Sonny,

Take a careful look at this...

How much has Obama added to the national debt

then go back to your citation and see if you can locate that particular construction anywhere...

I have posted several links explaining the rise in the national debt. What else do you want?

Please explain exactly what you're looking for.
What are you asking?
Why not post your numbers if mine do not meet your standards.
I have posted several links explaining the national debt numbers. Tell me what you want.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I was told the original title was "trolling" so new title SAME content.

As we all to slowly come to the end of this political nightmare called Obama I think its only right to addressed the political highlights of this nightmare we call government by democrats.

ECONOMICS
Now our current crap fest in charge has set a new record, never done before in the entire history of our beloved United States. No president has ever done it despite depressions, recessions or even war. Obama presided over not one but two of the only credit downgrades of our country in its entire history.

HOSTAGES
No president since James Earl "Jimmy" Carter has presided over more Americans taken hostage by Islamic countries or any country for that matter. There are as a matter of fact STILL American hostages in Iran that have been held LONGER than those held by Iran during Carter.

ISLAMIC STATE ATTACKS IN COUNTRY
Not by body count but by number of attacks from outside terrorists no president has ever presided over such a massive increase while doing nothing. Islamic State attacks have become so permitted by this president we know longer wonder "if" but "when".

DOMESTIC TERRORISTS ATTACKS
NO President has presided over the killing of white minority groups in this country in its entire history. The Orlando killing of homo's while Islamic fueled was designed, plotted and carried out and in fact killed more white homo's then the riots at Stonewall.

The community center in San Bernardino was a center for working with the retarded. So Obama gets yet another first. No president has presided over a larger mass killing of retards in the history of the United States.

Hostage taking
+
Homo's killed
+
Retards killed
+
Economy destroyed
---------------------------------
Islamic Operative

Just the math.

Fury

Economy destroyed

so you won't embarrass yourself again, allow me to show you what "economy destroyed" looks like

Any questions?

With all his deficit spending, why does Obama have the weakest recovery ever?

TDog,

Tell everyone whether the red line is ABOVE or BELOW the green line.....

When you're done, would you please explain "structural deficit" to Sonny? I don't know if I've got long enough to live....

Tell everyone whether the red line is ABOVE or BELOW the green line.....

How many years have we seen 3% or better real GDP growth under Obama?

would you please explain "structural deficit" to Sonny?

Why don't you explain it?

 

[1stRambo]

I was told the original title was "trolling" so new title SAME content.

As we all to slowly come to the end of this political nightmare called Obama I think its only right to addressed the political highlights of this nightmare we call government by democrats.

ECONOMICS
Now our current crap fest in charge has set a new record, never done before in the entire history of our beloved United States. No president has ever done it despite depressions, recessions or even war. Obama presided over not one but two of the only credit downgrades of our country in its entire history.

HOSTAGES
No president since James Earl "Jimmy" Carter has presided over more Americans taken hostage by Islamic countries or any country for that matter. There are as a matter of fact STILL American hostages in Iran that have been held LONGER than those held by Iran during Carter.

ISLAMIC STATE ATTACKS IN COUNTRY
Not by body count but by number of attacks from outside terrorists no president has ever presided over such a massive increase while doing nothing. Islamic State attacks have become so permitted by this president we know longer wonder "if" but "when".

DOMESTIC TERRORISTS ATTACKS
NO President has presided over the killing of white minority groups in this country in its entire history. The Orlando killing of homo's while Islamic fueled was designed, plotted and carried out and in fact killed more white homo's then the riots at Stonewall.

The community center in San Bernardino was a center for working with the retarded. So Obama gets yet another first. No president has presided over a larger mass killing of retards in the history of the United States.

Hostage taking
+
Homo's killed
+
Retards killed
+
Economy destroyed
---------------------------------
Islamic Operative

Just the math.

Fury

Economy destroyed

so you won't embarrass yourself again, allow me to show you what "economy destroyed" looks like

Any questions?

With all his deficit spending, why does Obama have the weakest recovery ever?

TDog,

Tell everyone whether the red line is ABOVE or BELOW the green line.....

When you're done, would you please explain "structural deficit" to Sonny? I don't know if I've got long enough to live....

Yo, most people have this:
What is the cyclical deficit?
Cyclical deficits are the kind of deficit you run when you lose your job: you've had a temporary income shock, and so you're going to be spending more than you take in.

"GTP"
Shall We Pray:

 

[Sonny Clark]

The budget and national debt are two entirely different animals.

The national debt is in astronomical numbers and rising.

The interest alone on the national debt is bankrupting us.

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

What will the national debt be when he leaves office?

How much money has he given away to foreign governments?

How much has he spent on senseless deadly costly wars?

How many mosques has he built on foreign soil?

How many luxury vacations has his wife and daughters taken?

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

Go on, Sonny.....give it a shot....

It's all a matter of record, public record, and easily researched.

Do you expect me to do the research for you?

Federal Debt, Deficits and Spending
Debt – The U.S. government’s debt owed to the public has more than doubled. It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

And the debt also has grown dramatically even when measured as a percentage of the growing economy, from 52 percent of gross domestic product at the end of fiscal year 2009 to just under 74 percent at the end of fiscal 2015, according to the most recent estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

Spending – Federal spending, however, has increased much less. Total federal outlays in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30 last year totaled just under $3.69 trillion, according to final U.S. Treasury figures. That’s just 4.8 percent above the total outlays for fiscal 2009, which was well underway when Obama took office.

To be sure, Obama was responsible for some of the FY 2009 spending, but as we’ve shown in detail elsewhere, his early spending initiatives added — at most — $203 billion to the fiscal year 2009 spending levels that were set before he took office. Even attributing that extra FY 2009 spending to Obama brings the total increase in outlays since he took office to 11.3 percent over the level he inherited.

Massive federal deficits continue: The final figure for FY 2015 was $438.9 billion. That was about $44.5 billion less than the shortfall in fiscal year 2014, but CBO projects that without further spending cuts or revenue increases, deficits will soon be growing larger again, and will top $1 trillion in FY 2025.

Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, currently stands at nearly $18.9 trillion, up nearly 78 percent under Obama.

Obama’s Numbers (January 2016 Update)

That doesn't answer the question.....pay close attention to how this is phrased...

It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

Next, you want to learn about "structural deficits".....

Once you've done so, we can take another look - 'k?

I'm talking about the national DEBT.
YOUR QUESTION: - How much has Obama added to the national debt?

I gave you the answer.

Sonny,

Take a careful look at this...

How much has Obama added to the national debt

then go back to your citation and see if you can locate that particular construction anywhere...

National Debt Under Obama

Depending on who you talk to, President Obama added anywhere from $983 billion to $7.7 trillion to the national debt. Who's lying? None of them. That's because there are three ways to look at the debt added for any President.

Method 1. Debt Added Since Obama Took Office
The first, and largest, is how much debt has been added since Obama took office. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. Today it's slightly more than $19 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added nearly $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other President. For more, see Why Is the U.S. Debt So Large?

How Much Did Obama Really Add to the Nation's Debt?

 

[IcebergSlim]

National Debt Under Obama

Depending on who you talk to, President Obama added anywhere from $983 billion to $7.7 trillion to the national debt. Who's lying? None of them. That's because there are three ways to look at the debt added for any President.

Method 1. Debt Added Since Obama Took Office
The first, and largest, is how much debt has been added since Obama took office. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. Today it's slightly more than $19 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added nearly $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other President. For more, see Why Is the U.S. Debt So Large?

How Much Did Obama Really Add to the Nation's Debt?

Did you actually read the rest of it? Like THE CONCLUSION?

When all of these are added up, Obama's debt contribution was $983 billion between 2009-2017.​

 

[IcebergSlim]

I was told the original title was "trolling" so new title SAME content.

As we all to slowly come to the end of this political nightmare called Obama I think its only right to addressed the political highlights of this nightmare we call government by democrats.

ECONOMICS
Now our current crap fest in charge has set a new record, never done before in the entire history of our beloved United States. No president has ever done it despite depressions, recessions or even war. Obama presided over not one but two of the only credit downgrades of our country in its entire history.

HOSTAGES
No president since James Earl "Jimmy" Carter has presided over more Americans taken hostage by Islamic countries or any country for that matter. There are as a matter of fact STILL American hostages in Iran that have been held LONGER than those held by Iran during Carter.

ISLAMIC STATE ATTACKS IN COUNTRY
Not by body count but by number of attacks from outside terrorists no president has ever presided over such a massive increase while doing nothing. Islamic State attacks have become so permitted by this president we know longer wonder "if" but "when".

DOMESTIC TERRORISTS ATTACKS
NO President has presided over the killing of white minority groups in this country in its entire history. The Orlando killing of homo's while Islamic fueled was designed, plotted and carried out and in fact killed more white homo's then the riots at Stonewall.

The community center in San Bernardino was a center for working with the retarded. So Obama gets yet another first. No president has presided over a larger mass killing of retards in the history of the United States.

Hostage taking
+
Homo's killed
+
Retards killed
+
Economy destroyed
---------------------------------
Islamic Operative

Just the math.

Fury

Economy destroyed

so you won't embarrass yourself again, allow me to show you what "economy destroyed" looks like

Any questions?

With all his deficit spending, why does Obama have the weakest recovery ever?

TDog,

Tell everyone whether the red line is ABOVE or BELOW the green line.....

When you're done, would you please explain "structural deficit" to Sonny? I don't know if I've got long enough to live....

Yo, most people have this:
What is the cyclical deficit?
Cyclical deficits are the kind of deficit you run when you lose your job: you've had a temporary income shock, and so you're going to be spending more than you take in.

"GTP"
Shall We Pray:
View attachment 81803

This is painful....

Pay attention now, Lass.....

The "cyclical" deficit is distinct from any "structural deficit".......that's why there are two of them....

 

[Moonglow]

How much has Obama added to the national debt?

Go on, Sonny.....give it a shot....

It's all a matter of record, public record, and easily researched.

Do you expect me to do the research for you?

Federal Debt, Deficits and Spending
Debt – The U.S. government’s debt owed to the public has more than doubled. It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

And the debt also has grown dramatically even when measured as a percentage of the growing economy, from 52 percent of gross domestic product at the end of fiscal year 2009 to just under 74 percent at the end of fiscal 2015, according to the most recent estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

Spending – Federal spending, however, has increased much less. Total federal outlays in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30 last year totaled just under $3.69 trillion, according to final U.S. Treasury figures. That’s just 4.8 percent above the total outlays for fiscal 2009, which was well underway when Obama took office.

To be sure, Obama was responsible for some of the FY 2009 spending, but as we’ve shown in detail elsewhere, his early spending initiatives added — at most — $203 billion to the fiscal year 2009 spending levels that were set before he took office. Even attributing that extra FY 2009 spending to Obama brings the total increase in outlays since he took office to 11.3 percent over the level he inherited.

Massive federal deficits continue: The final figure for FY 2015 was $438.9 billion. That was about $44.5 billion less than the shortfall in fiscal year 2014, but CBO projects that without further spending cuts or revenue increases, deficits will soon be growing larger again, and will top $1 trillion in FY 2025.

Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, currently stands at nearly $18.9 trillion, up nearly 78 percent under Obama.

Obama’s Numbers (January 2016 Update)

That doesn't answer the question.....pay close attention to how this is phrased...

It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

Next, you want to learn about "structural deficits".....

Once you've done so, we can take another look - 'k?

I'm talking about the national DEBT.
YOUR QUESTION: - How much has Obama added to the national debt?

I gave you the answer.

Sonny,

Take a careful look at this...

How much has Obama added to the national debt

then go back to your citation and see if you can locate that particular construction anywhere...

National Debt Under Obama

Depending on who you talk to, President Obama added anywhere from $983 billion to $7.7 trillion to the national debt. Who's lying? None of them. That's because there are three ways to look at the debt added for any President.

Method 1. Debt Added Since Obama Took Office
The first, and largest, is how much debt has been added since Obama took office. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. Today it's slightly more than $19 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added nearly $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other President. For more, see Why Is the U.S. Debt So Large?

How Much Did Obama Really Add to the Nation's Debt?

Congress controls the purse strings.........

 

[Sonny Clark]

I was told the original title was "trolling" so new title SAME content.

As we all to slowly come to the end of this political nightmare called Obama I think its only right to addressed the political highlights of this nightmare we call government by democrats.

ECONOMICS
Now our current crap fest in charge has set a new record, never done before in the entire history of our beloved United States. No president has ever done it despite depressions, recessions or even war. Obama presided over not one but two of the only credit downgrades of our country in its entire history.

HOSTAGES
No president since James Earl "Jimmy" Carter has presided over more Americans taken hostage by Islamic countries or any country for that matter. There are as a matter of fact STILL American hostages in Iran that have been held LONGER than those held by Iran during Carter.

ISLAMIC STATE ATTACKS IN COUNTRY
Not by body count but by number of attacks from outside terrorists no president has ever presided over such a massive increase while doing nothing. Islamic State attacks have become so permitted by this president we know longer wonder "if" but "when".

DOMESTIC TERRORISTS ATTACKS
NO President has presided over the killing of white minority groups in this country in its entire history. The Orlando killing of homo's while Islamic fueled was designed, plotted and carried out and in fact killed more white homo's then the riots at Stonewall.

The community center in San Bernardino was a center for working with the retarded. So Obama gets yet another first. No president has presided over a larger mass killing of retards in the history of the United States.

Hostage taking
+
Homo's killed
+
Retards killed
+
Economy destroyed
---------------------------------
Islamic Operative

Just the math.

Fury

Economy destroyed

so you won't embarrass yourself again, allow me to show you what "economy destroyed" looks like

Any questions?

With all his deficit spending, why does Obama have the weakest recovery ever?

TDog,

Tell everyone whether the red line is ABOVE or BELOW the green line.....

When you're done, would you please explain "structural deficit" to Sonny? I don't know if I've got long enough to live....

Tell everyone whether the red line is ABOVE or BELOW the green line.....

How many years have we seen 3% or better real GDP growth under Obama?

would you please explain "structural deficit" to Sonny?

Why don't you explain it?

FYI - I have said NOT a DAMN word about any deficit.
I have NOT mentioned any numbers related to the damn yearly deficits.
I have said, and have posted several links explaining the NATIONAL DEBT !!!!!!

Why do you continue to ask me about the damn deficits? I couldn't give a happy rat's ass less about the damn yearly deficits. I'm concerned about the astronomical and rising NATIONAL DEBT.

You're the one that continues to bring up the yearly deficits, NOT ME !!!!!

Do you understand English? Do you comprehend what you read?

Where is the problem? Please explain. Thanks.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I was told the original title was "trolling" so new title SAME content.

As we all to slowly come to the end of this political nightmare called Obama I think its only right to addressed the political highlights of this nightmare we call government by democrats.

ECONOMICS
Now our current crap fest in charge has set a new record, never done before in the entire history of our beloved United States. No president has ever done it despite depressions, recessions or even war. Obama presided over not one but two of the only credit downgrades of our country in its entire history.

HOSTAGES
No president since James Earl "Jimmy" Carter has presided over more Americans taken hostage by Islamic countries or any country for that matter. There are as a matter of fact STILL American hostages in Iran that have been held LONGER than those held by Iran during Carter.

ISLAMIC STATE ATTACKS IN COUNTRY
Not by body count but by number of attacks from outside terrorists no president has ever presided over such a massive increase while doing nothing. Islamic State attacks have become so permitted by this president we know longer wonder "if" but "when".

DOMESTIC TERRORISTS ATTACKS
NO President has presided over the killing of white minority groups in this country in its entire history. The Orlando killing of homo's while Islamic fueled was designed, plotted and carried out and in fact killed more white homo's then the riots at Stonewall.

The community center in San Bernardino was a center for working with the retarded. So Obama gets yet another first. No president has presided over a larger mass killing of retards in the history of the United States.

Hostage taking
+
Homo's killed
+
Retards killed
+
Economy destroyed
---------------------------------
Islamic Operative

Just the math.

Fury

If Hillary wins will it be another 4+ years of obstruction from the Reps? If she wins, look for the loss of the Senate and possibly the House to the Dems. We are fed up with the Newt Doctine of Obstuction.

 

[IcebergSlim]

I was told the original title was "trolling" so new title SAME content.

As we all to slowly come to the end of this political nightmare called Obama I think its only right to addressed the political highlights of this nightmare we call government by democrats.

ECONOMICS
Now our current crap fest in charge has set a new record, never done before in the entire history of our beloved United States. No president has ever done it despite depressions, recessions or even war. Obama presided over not one but two of the only credit downgrades of our country in its entire history.

HOSTAGES
No president since James Earl "Jimmy" Carter has presided over more Americans taken hostage by Islamic countries or any country for that matter. There are as a matter of fact STILL American hostages in Iran that have been held LONGER than those held by Iran during Carter.

ISLAMIC STATE ATTACKS IN COUNTRY
Not by body count but by number of attacks from outside terrorists no president has ever presided over such a massive increase while doing nothing. Islamic State attacks have become so permitted by this president we know longer wonder "if" but "when".

DOMESTIC TERRORISTS ATTACKS
NO President has presided over the killing of white minority groups in this country in its entire history. The Orlando killing of homo's while Islamic fueled was designed, plotted and carried out and in fact killed more white homo's then the riots at Stonewall.

The community center in San Bernardino was a center for working with the retarded. So Obama gets yet another first. No president has presided over a larger mass killing of retards in the history of the United States.

Hostage taking
+
Homo's killed
+
Retards killed
+
Economy destroyed
---------------------------------
Islamic Operative

Just the math.

Fury

Economy destroyed

so you won't embarrass yourself again, allow me to show you what "economy destroyed" looks like

Any questions?

With all his deficit spending, why does Obama have the weakest recovery ever?

TDog,

Tell everyone whether the red line is ABOVE or BELOW the green line.....

When you're done, would you please explain "structural deficit" to Sonny? I don't know if I've got long enough to live....

Tell everyone whether the red line is ABOVE or BELOW the green line.....

How many years have we seen 3% or better real GDP growth under Obama?

would you please explain "structural deficit" to Sonny?

Why don't you explain it?

TDog,

You didn't actually go to the BEA link I provided, did you.......

Had you done so, you would have learned that the net spreads to which I refer are 0.83, and 0.53.....I hope to G*d that I don't have to explain to you why this matters....

and I already told you why I cannot take on the task of skulin' Sonny........that boy can't even read his own citations....

 

[IcebergSlim]

I was told the original title was "trolling" so new title SAME content.

As we all to slowly come to the end of this political nightmare called Obama I think its only right to addressed the political highlights of this nightmare we call government by democrats.

ECONOMICS
Now our current crap fest in charge has set a new record, never done before in the entire history of our beloved United States. No president has ever done it despite depressions, recessions or even war. Obama presided over not one but two of the only credit downgrades of our country in its entire history.

HOSTAGES
No president since James Earl "Jimmy" Carter has presided over more Americans taken hostage by Islamic countries or any country for that matter. There are as a matter of fact STILL American hostages in Iran that have been held LONGER than those held by Iran during Carter.

ISLAMIC STATE ATTACKS IN COUNTRY
Not by body count but by number of attacks from outside terrorists no president has ever presided over such a massive increase while doing nothing. Islamic State attacks have become so permitted by this president we know longer wonder "if" but "when".

DOMESTIC TERRORISTS ATTACKS
NO President has presided over the killing of white minority groups in this country in its entire history. The Orlando killing of homo's while Islamic fueled was designed, plotted and carried out and in fact killed more white homo's then the riots at Stonewall.

The community center in San Bernardino was a center for working with the retarded. So Obama gets yet another first. No president has presided over a larger mass killing of retards in the history of the United States.

Hostage taking
+
Homo's killed
+
Retards killed
+
Economy destroyed
---------------------------------
Islamic Operative

Just the math.

Fury

Economy destroyed

so you won't embarrass yourself again, allow me to show you what "economy destroyed" looks like

Any questions?

With all his deficit spending, why does Obama have the weakest recovery ever?

TDog,

Tell everyone whether the red line is ABOVE or BELOW the green line.....

When you're done, would you please explain "structural deficit" to Sonny? I don't know if I've got long enough to live....

Tell everyone whether the red line is ABOVE or BELOW the green line.....

How many years have we seen 3% or better real GDP growth under Obama?

would you please explain "structural deficit" to Sonny?

Why don't you explain it?

FYI - I have said NOT a DAMN word about any deficit.
I have NOT mentioned any numbers related to the damn yearly deficits.
I have said, and have posted several links explaining the NATIONAL DEBT !!!!!!

Why do you continue to ask me about the damn deficits? I couldn't give a happy rat's ass less about the damn yearly deficits. I'm concerned about the astronomical and rising NATIONAL DEBT.

You're the one that continues to bring up the yearly deficits, NOT ME !!!!!

Do you understand English? Do you comprehend what you read?

Where is the problem? Please explain. Thanks.

You DO understand that they are related, right?

If you don't believe me, ask TDog....