The Four Worst American Presidents

The Four Worst American Presidents

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Since the adoption of its constitution, 43 men have been President of the United States. In January 2013, a New York Times journalist and statistician put together a composite list of presidential rankings based on previous presidential rankings by scholars (primarily historians). According to this, the worst four are: (43) James Buchanan (Democrat) (42); Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (41) Warren G. Harding (Republican); and (40) William Henry Harrison (Whig).

According to this list, the four most recent presidents ranked as follows: Barrack Obama is ranked as 17; George W. Bush is ranked as 38; Bill Clinton is ranked as 18; and George H.W. Bush is ranked as 22.

A very short description of the worst presidents follows.

The 4 worst in terms of how they impact Americans today are:

1) FDR - Social Security made all Americans dependent on government, not just the needy. Destroyed the 10th amendment.
2) Woodrow Wilson - Started us on the path of being policeman to the world, income tax
3) LBJ - Instituted war as an economic policy
4) Obama - Obamacare makes all Americans dependent on government for their healthcare.

The reason none are 19th century is because of the measurement of how they impact our lives today. The 18th century presidents may have sucked, but their damage to us directly today was lower.

Obama would have been another in the line of crappy Presidents we've had but not the worst if not for Obamacare.
 
FDR dragged a country that was entrenched in isolationism and in the midst of the worst depression in history

He turned us into a modern democracy and the worlds eminent superpower

The greatest president in Modern history

1) He prolonged the depression
2) He introduced socialist programs
3) He tried to thwart the constitution in many ways including his attempt to flood the SC
4) We are not and should never be a democracy
5) POS president supported by POS big government entitlement junkies

The US is now a modern democracy......We have FDR to thank

No.. you and your leftist 'vote to take shit from others' ilk wants it to be a democracy for your tyranny of the masses

In fact, we are a republic where rule of law is to outweigh popular vote and popular choice... we are to have the constitution to protect us from your crap

We have socialist systems that are largely the fault of FDR.. unfortunately the bastard stayed in office way too long and caused much damage
 
FDR dragged a country that was entrenched in isolationism and in the midst of the worst depression in history

He turned us into a modern democracy and the worlds eminent superpower

The greatest president in Modern history

1) He prolonged the depression
2) He introduced socialist programs
3) He tried to thwart the constitution in many ways including his attempt to flood the SC
4) We are not and should never be a democracy
5) POS president supported by POS big government entitlement junkies

The US is now a modern democracy......We have FDR to thank

That's true, he destroyed our republic. I wouldn't use the word "thank" for that though.
 
William Henry Harrison only lived for 30 days after being inaugurated. Hard to lable the guy the worst

In my lifetime, George W Bush was the worst with Carter next

What did GWB do?
1) He inherited a recession that started under Clinton (3/2001 to 11/01)
2) The dot.com bust happened lost $5 trillion and 300,000 jobs lost was that his fault?
3) 9/11 (Remember that???) cost $1 trillion 18,000 businesses lost, 145,000 jobs lost..3,000 lives.. was that his fault?
4) Worst hurricane SEASONS in history destroyed $1 trillion,400,000 jobs lost. 1,836 lives.. again GWB's fault?
5) Economic terrorist attack 9/18/08 drained $1/2 trillion in 2 hours from $4 trillion money market.. almost caused world economic collapse.

AND yet in spite of the loss of nearly $60 billion a year in tax revenue from that the deficit was declining with last year less the $160 billion.
And when he took office there were 5 million less people employed then when he left office!
And the GDP grew 16% in his 8 years.

ALL that in spite of a MSM that said "our job is to bash Bush".. yet this same MSM calls Obama a "god"?
All that in spite of Senators calling our troops "terrorists". "Cold blood killers". "Nazis" "killing civilians"...

Historians when given that context and perspective of time will rate GWB as one of the Greatest President that in spite of
being the ONLY President to have FACED the above events all in one administration with a very hostile MSM and traitors for senators!

George W Bush was an interesting case. He was given events and crisis during his Presidency that he could have stamped himself as one of our greatest Presidents. After 9-11 he rallied the country and the world around him.....he was destined for greatness
Instead, he squandered that support to push through a questionable agenda. His attempts at nation building were disasters. He abandoned the war on terror to invade Iraq. He trumped up WMD histeria. He engaged in torture and created Gitmo.
Then there was the worst economic collapse in 70 years where Bush went from denial to a hands off approach as he waited for a self correction. It was not until the last three months that he actually did something about the economy



What I always find interesting is these lists make FDR the best and Harding one of the worst.

You said Bush had the opportunity to be one of the greatest Presidents, yet Harding comes into office during a depression, shrinks Government and does virtually no stimulus of any kind. 18 months later the Depression ends and America soon after hits low's of 1 and 2% UE rates and he is rated one of the worst.

FDR steps into office and his entire 3 terms of him serving we have as someone mentioned internment camps, stealing wealth from citizens (not taxes, just stealing) starving people int the streets while FDR pays farmers to burn crops or simply to not grow food. UE rates of up to 24%, deficits and a lost generation... He is rated #1.

Bush is rated horribly despite Obama following up on every single Bush era policy. Bush ended Iraq on the timeline he set, Afghanistan is still going and we went from 600 billion in military spending a year to 900 billion under Obama. NSA spying, debt ceiling issues, credit downgrade, mass food stamps, mass deficits, mass division...

Why would I care what "historians" think? their opinion is based on what, who they think had it the worst and who they thought did the most to "help."? Harding and Coolidge did some of the least, had the best economy and get shit on... FDR/Obama did some of the most and have one of the weakest economies in our history and are rated very well... It's dumb. Good results = bad ratting. bad results = great ratings, unless you're a Republican haha. Clinton??? the guy that raided SS, fucked a bitch and lied to every single American on his own accord? Yeah, that's a dude we can trust... dot com bubble and housing crisist started by Clinton, he was Mr. Wonderful!
 
What did GWB do?
1) He inherited a recession that started under Clinton (3/2001 to 11/01)
2) The dot.com bust happened lost $5 trillion and 300,000 jobs lost was that his fault?
3) 9/11 (Remember that???) cost $1 trillion 18,000 businesses lost, 145,000 jobs lost..3,000 lives.. was that his fault?
4) Worst hurricane SEASONS in history destroyed $1 trillion,400,000 jobs lost. 1,836 lives.. again GWB's fault?
5) Economic terrorist attack 9/18/08 drained $1/2 trillion in 2 hours from $4 trillion money market.. almost caused world economic collapse.

AND yet in spite of the loss of nearly $60 billion a year in tax revenue from that the deficit was declining with last year less the $160 billion.
And when he took office there were 5 million less people employed then when he left office!
And the GDP grew 16% in his 8 years.

ALL that in spite of a MSM that said "our job is to bash Bush".. yet this same MSM calls Obama a "god"?
All that in spite of Senators calling our troops "terrorists". "Cold blood killers". "Nazis" "killing civilians"...

Historians when given that context and perspective of time will rate GWB as one of the Greatest President that in spite of
being the ONLY President to have FACED the above events all in one administration with a very hostile MSM and traitors for senators!

George W Bush was an interesting case. He was given events and crisis during his Presidency that he could have stamped himself as one of our greatest Presidents. After 9-11 he rallied the country and the world around him.....he was destined for greatness
Instead, he squandered that support to push through a questionable agenda. His attempts at nation building were disasters. He abandoned the war on terror to invade Iraq. He trumped up WMD histeria. He engaged in torture and created Gitmo.
Then there was the worst economic collapse in 70 years where Bush went from denial to a hands off approach as he waited for a self correction. It was not until the last three months that he actually did something about the economy



What I always find interesting is these lists make FDR the best and Harding one of the worst.

You said Bush had the opportunity to be one of the greatest Presidents, yet Harding comes into office during a depression, shrinks Government and does virtually no stimulus of any kind. 18 months later the Depression ends and America soon after hits low's of 1 and 2% UE rates and he is rated one of the worst.

FDR steps into office and his entire 3 terms of him serving we have as someone mentioned internment camps, stealing wealth from citizens (not taxes, just stealing) starving people int the streets while FDR pays farmers to burn crops or simply to not grow food. UE rates of up to 24%, deficits and a lost generation... He is rated #1.

Bush is rated horribly despite Obama following up on every single Bush era policy. Bush ended Iraq on the timeline he set, Afghanistan is still going and we went from 600 billion in military spending a year to 900 billion under Obama. NSA spying, debt ceiling issues, credit downgrade, mass food stamps, mass deficits, mass division...

Why would I care what "historians" think? their opinion is based on what, who they think had it the worst and who they thought did the most to "help."? Harding and Coolidge did some of the least, had the best economy and get shit on... FDR/Obama did some of the most and have one of the weakest economies in our history and are rated very well... It's dumb. Good results = bad ratting. bad results = great ratings, unless you're a Republican haha. Clinton??? the guy that raided SS, fucked a bitch and lied to every single American on his own accord? Yeah, that's a dude we can trust... dot com bubble and housing crisist started by Clinton, he was Mr. Wonderful!

It just points out there are two yard sticks. Democrats measure success by how much money was re-distributed to them through government and by titles of power and declarations of accomplishment, pats on the back, emotions etc. Republicans measure success by concrete assets. When it comes to liberties both parties measure liberty by whether or not their authoritarian views are forced on the other party.
 
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What did GWB do?
1) He inherited a recession that started under Clinton (3/2001 to 11/01)
2) The dot.com bust happened lost $5 trillion and 300,000 jobs lost was that his fault?
3) 9/11 (Remember that???) cost $1 trillion 18,000 businesses lost, 145,000 jobs lost..3,000 lives.. was that his fault?
4) Worst hurricane SEASONS in history destroyed $1 trillion,400,000 jobs lost. 1,836 lives.. again GWB's fault?
5) Economic terrorist attack 9/18/08 drained $1/2 trillion in 2 hours from $4 trillion money market.. almost caused world economic collapse.

AND yet in spite of the loss of nearly $60 billion a year in tax revenue from that the deficit was declining with last year less the $160 billion.
And when he took office there were 5 million less people employed then when he left office!
And the GDP grew 16% in his 8 years.

ALL that in spite of a MSM that said "our job is to bash Bush".. yet this same MSM calls Obama a "god"?
All that in spite of Senators calling our troops "terrorists". "Cold blood killers". "Nazis" "killing civilians"...

Historians when given that context and perspective of time will rate GWB as one of the Greatest President that in spite of
being the ONLY President to have FACED the above events all in one administration with a very hostile MSM and traitors for senators!

George W Bush was an interesting case. He was given events and crisis during his Presidency that he could have stamped himself as one of our greatest Presidents. After 9-11 he rallied the country and the world around him.....he was destined for greatness
Instead, he squandered that support to push through a questionable agenda. His attempts at nation building were disasters. He abandoned the war on terror to invade Iraq. He trumped up WMD histeria. He engaged in torture and created Gitmo.
Then there was the worst economic collapse in 70 years where Bush went from denial to a hands off approach as he waited for a self correction. It was not until the last three months that he actually did something about the economy



What I always find interesting is these lists make FDR the best and Harding one of the worst.

You said Bush had the opportunity to be one of the greatest Presidents, yet Harding comes into office during a depression, shrinks Government and does virtually no stimulus of any kind. 18 months later the Depression ends and America soon after hits low's of 1 and 2% UE rates and he is rated one of the worst.

FDR steps into office and his entire 3 terms of him serving we have as someone mentioned internment camps, stealing wealth from citizens (not taxes, just stealing) starving people int the streets while FDR pays farmers to burn crops or simply to not grow food. UE rates of up to 24%, deficits and a lost generation... He is rated #1.

Bush is rated horribly despite Obama following up on every single Bush era policy. Bush ended Iraq on the timeline he set, Afghanistan is still going and we went from 600 billion in military spending a year to 900 billion under Obama. NSA spying, debt ceiling issues, credit downgrade, mass food stamps, mass deficits, mass division...

Why would I care what "historians" think? their opinion is based on what, who they think had it the worst and who they thought did the most to "help."? Harding and Coolidge did some of the least, had the best economy and get shit on... FDR/Obama did some of the most and have one of the weakest economies in our history and are rated very well... It's dumb. Good results = bad ratting. bad results = great ratings, unless you're a Republican haha. Clinton??? the guy that raided SS, fucked a bitch and lied to every single American on his own accord? Yeah, that's a dude we can trust... dot com bubble and housing crisist started by Clinton, he was Mr. Wonderful!

Do you even know who Harding is?

One of the most inept, corrupt, uncaring Presidents we have ever had. A man inserted into office by political cronies who proceeded to rob the country blind
 
That what I was thinking, it sounds like if the spoke with different people, they could have had different results.

this wasn't a popularity vote where they go out and ask the people what president did you like and what president did you hate ... they are historians ... their criteria was based on accomplishments in office that they had in office, good and bad ...



are you claiming that "historians" do not have political biases? Really? :lol:

yes ,really ... historian that did this were not political biased .... there were more then one historian ... your implication is if there was only one person ... this was a group of political historian who look at all the presidents ...who did who, what, where and when ... if you want to try an say oh their all liberals what can we say ... you won't believe anything that is told to you no mater what
 
Economic terrorist attack 9/18/08 drained $1/2 trillion in 2 hours from $4 trillion money market..

Baloney.

Just so we understand each other Obama didn't take Office until Jan 20, 2009 ... your baloney statement here is baloney on your party ... your attempt to try and say see obama lost $1/2 trillion in 2 hours from $4 trillion money market ... he wasn't in office yet ...your republican hero, George W. Bush was .... So nice try ... try again.... because you just prove to us all, if anyone is full of Baloney, that would be you ...

Just so we understand each other

I understand that you're an idiot.

your baloney statement here is baloney on your party

No, my baloney statement is about the idea that the Fed saw $500 billion being "wired out of money market accounts" in 2 hours.

your claim was that it was caused by obama ...my statement was he wasn't in office until 2009 ... soooooooooooo I understand that you're an idiot.
 
this wasn't a popularity vote where they go out and ask the people what president did you like and what president did you hate ... they are historians ... their criteria was based on accomplishments in office that they had in office, good and bad ...



are you claiming that "historians" do not have political biases? Really? :lol:

Ahhh yes....The typical conservative reply

Historians are biased against us
Scientists are biased against us
The Media is biased against us
Polls are biased against us

that's their reply when they got nothing ... I believe it was 12 historians that look into this ... but I could be wrong ... you know stinkfish ... can't trust what a liberals says, because usually 99% of the time its the truth
 
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yes ,really ... historian that did this were not political biased .... there were more then one historian ... your implication is if there was only one person ... this was a group of political historian who look at all the presidents ...who did who, what, where and when ... if you want to try an say oh their all liberals what can we say ... you won't believe anything that is told to you no mater what

History, like all fields where people get lots of education while not acquiring marketable job skills, is dominated by liberalism.
 
Just so we understand each other Obama didn't take Office until Jan 20, 2009 ... your baloney statement here is baloney on your party ... your attempt to try and say see obama lost $1/2 trillion in 2 hours from $4 trillion money market ... he wasn't in office yet ...your republican hero, George W. Bush was .... So nice try ... try again.... because you just prove to us all, if anyone is full of Baloney, that would be you ...

Just so we understand each other

I understand that you're an idiot.

your baloney statement here is baloney on your party

No, my baloney statement is about the idea that the Fed saw $500 billion being "wired out of money market accounts" in 2 hours.

your claim was that it was caused by obama ...my statement was he wasn't in office until 2009 ... soooooooooooo I understand that you're an idiot.

your claim was that it was caused by obama

Try to read, I didn't mention Obama.

Be sure to ask your teacher for help, if these words are too big. Idiot.
 
are you claiming that "historians" do not have political biases? Really? :lol:

Ahhh yes....The typical conservative reply

Historians are biased against us
Scientists are biased against us
The Media is biased against us
Polls are biased against us

the bias of textbook writers and the teachers union has been proven Bull shit
the bias of the AGW "scientists" has been proven more Bull shit
the bias of the media has been proven
all polls are bullshit, the opinions of 1000 out of 330,000,000 means nothing.
not according to republicans ... if its in their favor ... when its not, you get shit like " this the opinions of 1000 out of 330,000,000 means nothing" ... translation they won't except anything unless its good for the right...

 
Where would you rank Ford?

I was sorry for Ford. Good man who stepped in at a time when the office of President was almost powerless. I don't blame him for pardoning Nixon, it had to be done. He did not accomplish much but he did no harm either.

I'd put him around 25

However, by pardoning Nixon, Ford sealed his fate as a one term President.
I disagree, Nixon should have been brought up on charges, since he was able to get away with what he did, the following Presidents felt they could get away with it too.
Nixon should have been made an example of what happens when a politician goes bad.

here's a fact that will get these righties undies in a knot ... Ronald Reagan had more people in his administration that went to prison then any president in the entire time of U.S. history ...
 
The problem according to some posters is that historians do not know American history as do the posters.
OK, let's accept that idea that historians, the same historians that teach historians that in turn teach our kids, do not know American history, as well as posters. Then what of the people, I mean the people that lived during the FDR period elected FDR four times, and our only president elected four times. Were the people drugged or something? And what of Reagan voting for FDR, just another druggie? And what of conservatives picking FDR as third greatest president? Sometimes I think some of these posters are not as well informed in the political/history area as they believe.
 
contrary to what the republicans here will say he has cut the budget in half

You might want to double check your calculations.
you might want to look it up for your self ... I realize many don't seem to see it because of the republicans misleading statement all the time ..but the fact is true he has cut this budget deficit in half from 1.2 trillion to 650 billion ... look it up for yourself ...

but the fact is true he has cut this budget deficit in half from 1.2 trillion to 650 billion

But the fact is, you said "he has cut the budget in half" ... look it up for yourself.

no I said budget deficit not budget two different things ... in a earlier post I said budget, but I went back and corrected it added deficit ... changed it to say budget deficit
budget.. meaning is what they say you can spend for the year
budget dificet is what you spent over the budget ... which was 1.2 trillion dollars ... this year we have only spent 650 billion dollars over the budget ...just so we understand each other
 
are you claiming that "historians" do not have political biases? Really?

Serious? This is like the catch-all response from right wingers!

quite serious. Can you provide proof that some historians are not biased? Note, the bias could be either way, and thats really too bad because we need to learn the lessons of history without someone skewing history to his/her political leanings.

that's not what we are saying ...even if there were some biased historians, they weren't just all liberals making this list ... you imply the total article is wrong because it might have a biased historian, well its not...
 
Serious? This is like the catch-all response from right wingers!

quite serious. Can you provide proof that some historians are not biased? Note, the bias could be either way, and thats really too bad because we need to learn the lessons of history without someone skewing history to his/her political leanings.

that's not what we are saying ...even if there were some biased historians, they weren't just all liberals making this list ... you imply the total article is wrong because it might have a biased historian, well its not...

You could get any order of the Presidents you want by selecting the criteria you want. I measure by impact on my liberty.
 
What did GWB do?
1) He inherited a recession that started under Clinton (3/2001 to 11/01)
2) The dot.com bust happened lost $5 trillion and 300,000 jobs lost was that his fault?
3) 9/11 (Remember that???) cost $1 trillion 18,000 businesses lost, 145,000 jobs lost..3,000 lives.. was that his fault?
4) Worst hurricane SEASONS in history destroyed $1 trillion,400,000 jobs lost. 1,836 lives.. again GWB's fault?
5) Economic terrorist attack 9/18/08 drained $1/2 trillion in 2 hours from $4 trillion money market.. almost caused world economic collapse.

AND yet in spite of the loss of nearly $60 billion a year in tax revenue from that the deficit was declining with last year less the $160 billion.
And when he took office there were 5 million less people employed then when he left office!
And the GDP grew 16% in his 8 years.

ALL that in spite of a MSM that said "our job is to bash Bush".. yet this same MSM calls Obama a "god"?
All that in spite of Senators calling our troops "terrorists". "Cold blood killers". "Nazis" "killing civilians"...

Historians when given that context and perspective of time will rate GWB as one of the Greatest President that in spite of
being the ONLY President to have FACED the above events all in one administration with a very hostile MSM and traitors for senators!

George W Bush was an interesting case. He was given events and crisis during his Presidency that he could have stamped himself as one of our greatest Presidents. After 9-11 he rallied the country and the world around him.....he was destined for greatness
Instead, he squandered that support to push through a questionable agenda. His attempts at nation building were disasters. He abandoned the war on terror to invade Iraq. He trumped up WMD histeria. He engaged in torture and created Gitmo.
Then there was the worst economic collapse in 70 years where Bush went from denial to a hands off approach as he waited for a self correction. It was not until the last three months that he actually did something about the economy



What I always find interesting is these lists make FDR the best and Harding one of the worst.

You said Bush had the opportunity to be one of the greatest Presidents, yet Harding comes into office during a depression, shrinks Government and does virtually no stimulus of any kind. 18 months later the Depression ends and America soon after hits low's of 1 and 2% UE rates and he is rated one of the worst.

FDR steps into office and his entire 3 terms of him serving we have as someone mentioned internment camps, stealing wealth from citizens (not taxes, just stealing) starving people int the streets while FDR pays farmers to burn crops or simply to not grow food. UE rates of up to 24%, deficits and a lost generation... He is rated #1.

Bush is rated horribly despite Obama following up on every single Bush era policy. Bush ended Iraq on the timeline he set, Afghanistan is still going and we went from 600 billion in military spending a year to 900 billion under Obama. NSA spying, debt ceiling issues, credit downgrade, mass food stamps, mass deficits, mass division...

Why would I care what "historians" think? their opinion is based on what, who they think had it the worst and who they thought did the most to "help."? Harding and Coolidge did some of the least, had the best economy and get shit on... FDR/Obama did some of the most and have one of the weakest economies in our history and are rated very well... It's dumb. Good results = bad ratting. bad results = great ratings, unless you're a Republican haha. Clinton??? the guy that raided SS, fucked a bitch and lied to every single American on his own accord? Yeah, that's a dude we can trust... dot com bubble and housing crisist started by Clinton, he was Mr. Wonderful!

yep says libertarian all over this ... they make it up as they go
 
The Four Worst American Presidents

Since the adoption of its constitution, 43 men have been President of the United States. In January 2013, a New York Times journalist and statistician put together a composite list of presidential rankings based on previous presidential rankings by scholars (primarily historians). According to this, the worst four are: (43) James Buchanan (Democrat) (42); Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (41) Warren G. Harding (Republican); and (40) William Henry Harrison (Whig).

According to this list, the four most recent presidents ranked as follows: Barrack Obama is ranked as 17; George W. Bush is ranked as 38; Bill Clinton is ranked as 18; and George H.W. Bush is ranked as 22.

OK, we've done this before so I'll cheat and use my notes!

The big problem with these listings is that most Americans know very little about presidents after Jefferson and before Theodore Roosevelt (usually just Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln), so the listings tend to be long on presidents in the recent past.

Buchanan and Harding clearly deserve their ranking. Buchanan wins the prize as the most ineffective president and Harding has a tie (with Grant, more later) for most corrupt. I can't see W.H Harrison on the list, 30 days is just too short. Maybe historians don't like him for giving the longest inaugural address, and in a blinding rainstorm without a hat to boot, which is probably what killed him.

I'm baffled by the inclusion of Pierce. Bad things happened during his presidency, most notably Douglas' Kansas-Nebraska Act, but this had little to do with Pierce. And we have a few much better candidates.

First on my list of replacements would be U.S. Grant. He was not personally corrupt, but had one of the most corrupt administrations on record, as noted. That should at least get him a number 5. I was shocked to see that Hoover did not make this list. Hoover has to be near the top in terms of administrative response to economic crisis; continuing in office as Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon by itself was a huge mistake.

Rather than Franklin Pierce, for that period I would nominate John Tyler and Millard Fillmore. Both were Vice Presidents who succeeded to the office of president and couldn't even get nominated by their own party for re-election. Pierce IMHO clearly outperformed both. Andrew Johnson suffered the same fate, being the Democrat on the 1864 Union ticket, but I tend to give him a pass. After all, nobody would have satisfies the Radical Republicans in 1866, but a lot of people put him on a short list of the worst.

I'm tempted to add Nixon to the list, but while he is a fascinating politician, he had too many successes to make the worst list. The same probably should be said of LBJ, the two are in the paradoxical position of possibly making both a "best" and "worst" president list!

So my list of the worst: Tyler, Fillmore, Buchanan, Grant, Harding, Hoover

Dishonorable mention: Pierce, A. Johnson, Carter, GWB (43)
 

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