The Future

[Wry Catcher]

First of all, good health precedes everything else. The current ideologies are in conflict, the Democratic Party supports the ACA goals, and the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health for all.

The only argument the Republican Party can offer is to claim government's intercession on the repeal of the ACA is it is Socialism. A claim which is absurd and an appeal to emotions.

Our government was founded by We the people to, "form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".

Common sense suggests the current iteration of Republicans (RINO's) have move so far to the dark side, that the meaning of the Preamble has been lost.

What do I mean by the Dark Side?

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed. No one will be able to equate any of the visions highlighted in the Preamble which is part of the current ideology under Trump and the miss-named Freedom Caucus.

No freedom precedes everything else in government

Freedom and Security are on a continuum, they are mutually exclusive.

what does that have to do with me paying for your health care?

The government gives me freedom I will take care of the rest.

Sure, until you get hit by a car. Lying there with a broken leg and bruised will you tell the first responders you will take care of yourself?

 

[Wry Catcher]

First of all, good health precedes everything else. The current ideologies are in conflict, the Democratic Party supports the ACA goals, and the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health for all.

The only argument the Republican Party can offer is to claim government's intercession on the repeal of the ACA is it is Socialism. A claim which is absurd and an appeal to emotions.

Our government was founded by We the people to, "form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".

Common sense suggests the current iteration of Republicans (RINO's) have move so far to the dark side, that the meaning of the Preamble has been lost.

What do I mean by the Dark Side?

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed. No one will be able to equate any of the visions highlighted in the Preamble which is part of the current ideology under Trump and the miss-named Freedom Caucus.

BUMP.

The current attack on the ACA proves the point made in my final paragraph above. The members Congress in the Republican Party caucus put lobbyist perks and campaign donations (bribes) by the Insurance Industry, and the Pharmaceutical and Medical Complex well ahead of the people.

How that is found funny is beyond belief. The only argument is, there is nothing in COTUS which allows the ACA or any government involvement in health.

Not only is that stupid, it is hypocrisy also well beyond belief. They applaud Executive Orders by trump, and yet no mention of that power exists in COTUS.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Teenvogue gets what the Trumpbots refuse. LOL

The Evolution of Health Insurance, From the 1900s to Today

"Fun New Teen Vogue Quiz Helps Girls Find Out What Kind Of Hooker They Should Be
July 11th, 2019

U.S.—A new quiz published on Teen Vogue this week aims to help teen girls figure out what kind of hooker they should be.

By answering a set of fun questions, girls are able to figure out if they should be a high-class escort or a more run-of-the-mill "lady of the night" when they decide to go into sex work in the future.

"It's important for us to help young girls make good decisions about what kind of sex work they should do," said a Teen Vogue representative. "Whether that's through a listicle telling them 37 fun ways to find sex work, an editorial proclaiming that sex work is real work, or a quiz that helps girls figure out what kind of hooker they should be, our goal is always to accelerate the depravity of our nation's young, female minds."

The quiz asks fun questions like what a teen girl's favorite color is, what her favorite boy band is, and what kind of makeup they like to wear to determine their future sex work occupation.

"It's a fun, exciting way to prepare our teen girls for all kinds of depravity."
Fun New Teen Vogue Quiz Helps Girls Find Out What Kind Of Hooker They Should Be




Democrats.....the Law of the Jungle Party.

WTF does that have to do with politics?

/—-/ It’s a continuation of democRATs war on women. Can’t get more political than that.

I suggest you read this thread:

Christine Blasey Ford Was Really A Drunken Slut

And ether STFU or apologize to the readers for being a damn liar and then STFU.

Lied about her Kavanaugh allegations....
...AND.......


1. Teaching someone to take lie detector test

New sworn statement alleges Ford lied under oath about prepping someone for a polygraph New sworn statement alleges Ford lied under oath about prepping someone for a polygraph




2. A separate door in her house

Renovation Records Undercut Ford's Exit-Door AccountFord testified, pushed her to say she wanted the door to alleviate symptoms of “claustrophobia” and “panic attacks" she still suffered from an attempted rape allegedly perpetrated by Kavanaugh in high school during the early 1980s.

"Is that the reason for the second door — front door -- is claustrophobia?” asked Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee. “Correct,” Ford replied.

Ford never specified when the renovation took place, leaving a possible impression that it and the therapy session happened around the same time.

But documents reveal the door was installed years before as part of an addition, and has been used by renters and even a marriage counseling business.” https://www.realclearinvestigations...uments_undermine_fords_exit_door_account.html





3.

Being afraid to fly, “…it was presented as a terror so overwhelming, so uncontrollable, as to prevent her from traveling by air under any circumstances. No – Professordoktor Ford, we were led to believe, would need to drive from Palo Alto to Washington to testify before the Senate Judicial Committee.

This claim fell apart in short order after it was revealed that Ford had lived for a year in Honolulu, a city effectively unreachable except by air, had vacationed in Tahiti and other areas of the Pacific, and regularly flew from California to the east coast to visit family. In light of all this, the “driving” claim became a running social media joke, with bogus reports of which was the last town she had driven through. “https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/10/the_three_lies_of_christine_blasey_ford.html



4. Blasey Ford allowed the public and the committee to believe that she was a psychologist in the full meaning of the term. She specifically told the committee that she was a “research psychologist”. She also made the claim on her university web site page, and in several other cases. The legacy media (for instance, theWashington Post and the Atlantic) dropped the “research’ part and repeatedly asserted that she was a licensed psychologist, with no request for a correction from the Blasey Ford camp.

In fact, she is no such thing. While she has done the course work, and was awarded a doctorate in the field, she still lacks certification. To qualify as a “psychologist” in the state of California (and every other state in the union), an individual must serve a one-year residency and pass several rigorous examinations. Blasey Ford has not done so. She is, ipso facto, not a psychologist. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/10/the_three_lies_of_christine_blasey_ford.html






5. The little-girl-voice that Dr Ford assumed is a give-away.

The hurt of her imaginary rejection by Kavanaugh at her most formative age, and the obsession that developed as a result, has been put to use by the Democrats……


…and now, her usefulness at an end, today’s Cindy Sheehan, they will throw Ford into the waste bin.




Ford is a sick woman....

Not as sick as you are, but, sick nonetheless.

I have no need to excoriate you, your disgusting threads and posts define you.

Someone in your past must have hurt you badly, for you to hold so much hate inside; no amount of attacks on others will ever bring about a catharsis to repair that damage.

 

[miketx]

"Fun New Teen Vogue Quiz Helps Girls Find Out What Kind Of Hooker They Should Be
July 11th, 2019

U.S.—A new quiz published on Teen Vogue this week aims to help teen girls figure out what kind of hooker they should be.

By answering a set of fun questions, girls are able to figure out if they should be a high-class escort or a more run-of-the-mill "lady of the night" when they decide to go into sex work in the future.

"It's important for us to help young girls make good decisions about what kind of sex work they should do," said a Teen Vogue representative. "Whether that's through a listicle telling them 37 fun ways to find sex work, an editorial proclaiming that sex work is real work, or a quiz that helps girls figure out what kind of hooker they should be, our goal is always to accelerate the depravity of our nation's young, female minds."

The quiz asks fun questions like what a teen girl's favorite color is, what her favorite boy band is, and what kind of makeup they like to wear to determine their future sex work occupation.

"It's a fun, exciting way to prepare our teen girls for all kinds of depravity."
Fun New Teen Vogue Quiz Helps Girls Find Out What Kind Of Hooker They Should Be




Democrats.....the Law of the Jungle Party.

WTF does that have to do with politics?

/—-/ It’s a continuation of democRATs war on women. Can’t get more political than that.

I suggest you read this thread:

Christine Blasey Ford Was Really A Drunken Slut

And ether STFU or apologize to the readers for being a damn liar and then STFU.

Lied about her Kavanaugh allegations....
...AND.......


1. Teaching someone to take lie detector test

New sworn statement alleges Ford lied under oath about prepping someone for a polygraph New sworn statement alleges Ford lied under oath about prepping someone for a polygraph




2. A separate door in her house

Renovation Records Undercut Ford's Exit-Door AccountFord testified, pushed her to say she wanted the door to alleviate symptoms of “claustrophobia” and “panic attacks" she still suffered from an attempted rape allegedly perpetrated by Kavanaugh in high school during the early 1980s.

"Is that the reason for the second door — front door -- is claustrophobia?” asked Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee. “Correct,” Ford replied.

Ford never specified when the renovation took place, leaving a possible impression that it and the therapy session happened around the same time.

But documents reveal the door was installed years before as part of an addition, and has been used by renters and even a marriage counseling business.” https://www.realclearinvestigations...uments_undermine_fords_exit_door_account.html





3.

Being afraid to fly, “…it was presented as a terror so overwhelming, so uncontrollable, as to prevent her from traveling by air under any circumstances. No – Professordoktor Ford, we were led to believe, would need to drive from Palo Alto to Washington to testify before the Senate Judicial Committee.

This claim fell apart in short order after it was revealed that Ford had lived for a year in Honolulu, a city effectively unreachable except by air, had vacationed in Tahiti and other areas of the Pacific, and regularly flew from California to the east coast to visit family. In light of all this, the “driving” claim became a running social media joke, with bogus reports of which was the last town she had driven through. “https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/10/the_three_lies_of_christine_blasey_ford.html



4. Blasey Ford allowed the public and the committee to believe that she was a psychologist in the full meaning of the term. She specifically told the committee that she was a “research psychologist”. She also made the claim on her university web site page, and in several other cases. The legacy media (for instance, theWashington Post and the Atlantic) dropped the “research’ part and repeatedly asserted that she was a licensed psychologist, with no request for a correction from the Blasey Ford camp.

In fact, she is no such thing. While she has done the course work, and was awarded a doctorate in the field, she still lacks certification. To qualify as a “psychologist” in the state of California (and every other state in the union), an individual must serve a one-year residency and pass several rigorous examinations. Blasey Ford has not done so. She is, ipso facto, not a psychologist. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/10/the_three_lies_of_christine_blasey_ford.html






5. The little-girl-voice that Dr Ford assumed is a give-away.

The hurt of her imaginary rejection by Kavanaugh at her most formative age, and the obsession that developed as a result, has been put to use by the Democrats……


…and now, her usefulness at an end, today’s Cindy Sheehan, they will throw Ford into the waste bin.




Ford is a sick woman....

Not as sick as you are, but, sick nonetheless.

I have no need to excoriate you, your disgusting threads and posts define you.

Someone in your past must have hurt you badly, for you to hold so much hate inside; no amount of attacks on others will ever bring about a catharsis to repair that damage.

Sounds like you are describing rightwinger or some of the other lib s'stains.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Now, lets put the curmudgeon princess aside and focus on the OP, and the follow up statement where the excuse is the ACA is not legal since it is not in COTUS, and yet the same defenders of Trump's Executive Orders are fine and dandy.

 

[miketx]

Now, lets put the curmudgeon princess aside and focus on the OP, and the follow up statement where the excuse is the ACA is not legal since it is not in COTUS, and yet the same defenders of Trump's Executive Orders are fine and dandy.

You mean that bullshit Obama taxed me for each year I couldn't afford it? total trash like him.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Now, lets put the curmudgeon princess aside and focus on the OP, and the follow up statement where the excuse is the ACA is not legal since it is not in COTUS, and yet the same defenders of Trump's Executive Orders are fine and dandy.

rather than argue semantics, debate whether it was good legislation or not.
My problems with ACA is several.
1) It did nothing to address rising premiums. In fact, of course, it made premiums higher. Premiums after ACA was passed rose quicker than before.
2) It did not address rising deductibles, in fact, of course, deductibles skyrocketed after ACA for everyone.
3) For many, ACA is really catastrophic care masked as health insurance. When you have a deductible in the $1,000's that you have to pay before you receive any benefits...that is , by definition, catastrophic care.
4) People whose incomes are low, get better coverage than those who have to pay for ACA. Reversing the problem, not solving it.

I can go on.

 

[Auld Phart]

Cleaned thread, 10 posts deleted.

 

[toobfreak]

Derp,

provide for the common defence

Figures you'd not know how to spell DEFENSE. Defense, common defense, as in national borders! Works for me. Provide it!

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed.

Every fricking talking point in the Dem debate was a freeking "wedge" issue, Derpie!

 

[Wry Catcher]

Derp,

provide for the common defence

Figures you'd not know how to spell DEFENSE. Defense, common defense, as in national borders! Works for me. Provide it!

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed.

Every fricking talking point in the Dem debate was a freeking "wedge" issue, Derpie!

LOL, my spelling was from the Preamble. As usual you guys on the right have never read COTUS in full, and yet hold on to the ideology of textualism.

 

[SAYIT]

First of all, good health precedes everything else. The current ideologies are in conflict, the Democratic Party supports the ACA and the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health.

and neither of them realize its not their job to be involved in healthcare

so fuck off you commie pricks,,,both of you

It's the government's job to do what ever most of the country wants, so fuck off yourself, dumb ass.

That can be tyranny of the majority.

Healthcare insurance - like most domestic matters - is a state and/or local gov't issue. Big, greasy central gov't is not only NOT the solution to all things, it is often the problem. Somehow loony-leftards never get it.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Cleaned thread, 10 posts deleted.

THANK YOU!

 

[Wry Catcher]

First of all, good health precedes everything else. The current ideologies are in conflict, the Democratic Party supports the ACA and the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health.

and neither of them realize its not their job to be involved in healthcare

so fuck off you commie pricks,,,both of you

It's the government's job to do what ever most of the country wants, so fuck off yourself, dumb ass.

That can be tyranny of the majority.

Healthcare insurance - like most domestic matters - is a state and/or local gov't issue. Big, greasy central gov't is not only NOT the solution to all things, it is often the problem. Somehow loony-leftards never get it.

The big problem with this interpretation of COTUS is its lack of pragmatism.

COTUS is ambiguous on many issues. That is one reason for so many 5-4 decisions, and the hotly contested wedge issues.

 

[SAYIT]

First of all, good health precedes everything else. The current ideologies are in conflict, the Democratic Party supports the ACA and the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health.

and neither of them realize its not their job to be involved in healthcare

so fuck off you commie pricks,,,both of you

It's the government's job to do what ever most of the country wants, so fuck off yourself, dumb ass.

That can be tyranny of the majority.

Healthcare insurance - like most domestic matters - is a state and/or local gov't issue. Big, greasy central gov't is not only NOT the solution to all things, it is often the problem. Somehow loony-leftards never get it.

The big problem with this interpretation of COTUS is its lack of pragmatism.

COTUS is ambiguous on many issues. That is one reason for so many 5-4 decisions, and the hotly contested wedge issues.

The big prob with states' rights is that they obstruct those who would have us all be cradle-to-grave slaves to WashDC.

The COTUS is specific about the limits of federal gov't authority and just as specifically says all other powers are relegated to the states. You should read it some time.

 

[progressive hunter]

Derp,

provide for the common defence

Figures you'd not know how to spell DEFENSE. Defense, common defense, as in national borders! Works for me. Provide it!

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed.

Every fricking talking point in the Dem debate was a freeking "wedge" issue, Derpie!

LOL, my spelling was from the Preamble. As usual you guys on the right have never read COTUS in full, and yet hold on to the ideology of textualism.

I'm not on the right,,

but how about you show us how its done,,,

 

[toobfreak]

Derp,

provide for the common defence

Figures you'd not know how to spell DEFENSE. Defense, common defense, as in national borders! Works for me. Provide it!

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed.

Every fricking talking point in the Dem debate was a freeking "wedge" issue, Derpie!

LOL, my spelling was from the Preamble. As usual you guys on the right have never read COTUS in full, and yet hold on to the ideology of textualism.

I'm not on the right,,

but how about you show us how its done,,,

Meantime, I actually have all four organic laws of the USA right before me, plus Paine's Rights of Man, Common Sense, and the Federalist Papers. Hey Wry, can you even tell me what the four organic laws of the U.S. are?

 

[Wry Catcher]

First of all, good health precedes everything else. The current ideologies are in conflict, the Democratic Party supports the ACA and the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health.

and neither of them realize its not their job to be involved in healthcare

so fuck off you commie pricks,,,both of you

It's the government's job to do what ever most of the country wants, so fuck off yourself, dumb ass.

That can be tyranny of the majority.

Healthcare insurance - like most domestic matters - is a state and/or local gov't issue. Big, greasy central gov't is not only NOT the solution to all things, it is often the problem. Somehow loony-leftards never get it.

The big problem with this interpretation of COTUS is its lack of pragmatism.

COTUS is ambiguous on many issues. That is one reason for so many 5-4 decisions, and the hotly contested wedge issues.

The big prob with states' rights is that they obstruct those who would have us all be cradle-to-grave slaves to WashDC.

The COTUS is specific about the limits of federal gov't authority and just as specifically says all other powers are relegated to the states. You should read it some time.

Don't be a smart ass, it only makes you look like a jerk.

I've read COTUS numerous times, and completed ConLaw and many other pre-law courses in College.

Your claim is, Art I, sec 8 limits the power and influence of the Federal Government, and, the 10th A. allows for States or the people to decide on issues which are not reserved to the Federal Government or denied to the states. Furthermore, the 9th A. states rights confirmed on the people are not limited and other rights are retained by the people.

It seem to me that the Preamble,

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America"

Along with Art I, sec 8, clause 1, to wit: "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States"

Now, pay closer attention to a) textualism and b) the phrases in bold. Together they call for the general Welfare and common defense do they not?

Now, is health important to you? How many Americans die of Cancer, Diabetes, Stokes and incestuous diseases in a single year, and how many from the invasion by a foreign power?

Set aside textualism for the moment, blood letting was a common practice used by doctors in the late 18th century. Executive Orders do not appear in COTUS, and of course the 1st A. protects a free press from being abridged by The Congress. Easy to infer that would include Senators and Members of the Congress should not support a President who abridges (curtail - a right or privilege) the press daily.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Derp,

provide for the common defence

Figures you'd not know how to spell DEFENSE. Defense, common defense, as in national borders! Works for me. Provide it!

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed.

Every fricking talking point in the Dem debate was a freeking "wedge" issue, Derpie!

LOL, my spelling was from the Preamble. As usual you guys on the right have never read COTUS in full, and yet hold on to the ideology of textualism.

I'm not on the right,,

but how about you show us how its done,,,

Meantime, I actually have all four organic laws of the USA right before me, plus Paine's Rights of Man, Common Sense, and the Federalist Papers. Hey Wry, can you even tell me what the four organic laws of the U.S. are?

Nope, never heard of a "organic law(s). I did some research and found a non governmental site, and checked out the US Code. Provide me the link to the US Code - I checked title I and II in the Code and no such thing exists.

 

[progressive hunter]

Derp,

provide for the common defence

Figures you'd not know how to spell DEFENSE. Defense, common defense, as in national borders! Works for me. Provide it!

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed.

Every fricking talking point in the Dem debate was a freeking "wedge" issue, Derpie!

LOL, my spelling was from the Preamble. As usual you guys on the right have never read COTUS in full, and yet hold on to the ideology of textualism.

I'm not on the right,,

but how about you show us how its done,,,

Meantime, I actually have all four organic laws of the USA right before me, plus Paine's Rights of Man, Common Sense, and the Federalist Papers. Hey Wry, can you even tell me what the four organic laws of the U.S. are?

Nope, never heard of a "organic law(s). I did some research and found a non governmental site, and checked out the US Code. Provide me the link to the US Code - I checked title I and II in the Code and no such thing exists.

figures it would be beyond you,,,

 

[toobfreak]

Derp,

provide for the common defence

Figures you'd not know how to spell DEFENSE. Defense, common defense, as in national borders! Works for me. Provide it!

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed.

Every fricking talking point in the Dem debate was a freeking "wedge" issue, Derpie!

LOL, my spelling was from the Preamble. As usual you guys on the right have never read COTUS in full, and yet hold on to the ideology of textualism.

I'm not on the right,,

but how about you show us how its done,,,

Meantime, I actually have all four organic laws of the USA right before me, plus Paine's Rights of Man, Common Sense, and the Federalist Papers. Hey Wry, can you even tell me what the four organic laws of the U.S. are?

Nope, never heard of a "organic law(s). I did some research and found a non governmental site, and checked out the US Code. Provide me the link to the US Code - I checked title I and II in the Code and no such thing exists.

Pretty funny. You misunderstand the meaning. Organic Law is not "in" the law but contains it. Organic Law is the foundation upon which law within any nation is based, and here you are lecturing others on their need to "read the Constitution." Too much.

Organic law - Wikipedia

The Organic Laws of The United States of America

What Does the Constitution Say? - Organic Laws Institute