The Great Divide: Truth vs Lies

[imawhosure]

There is a disturbing number of elected officials in government contradicting each other on national security. Obama says the refuges are being vetted. The FBI director and congressional representatives say oh no they are not. Obama says ISIL is contained yet a prominent Democratic party senator and national security expert says oh no they are not.

Obama, "ISIL is contained"

Senator Feinstein, "I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding." When asked about the threat level Feinstein said, "I have never been more concerned. They just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. And I think we have to be prepared."

Federal law requires Obama to consult with both the House and Senate judiciary committees on admitting refuges to the US and he must meet the burden of proof required for refugee status required by federal law. He can't just wave a wand and declare someone is a refuge.

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

 

[Jarhead]

The President, who won the 'Lie of the Year' award for ObamaCare, is now the front runner in a far more dangerous category: "Vetting Syrian Terrorists....er, Refugees.'


This morning the battle between truth and dishonesty was played out between proxies for the two side:
Representatve Peter King, and Mika Brzezinski....

It was dynomite:


"Rep. King To MSNBC’s Brzezinski: ‘You Are 1,000 Percent Wrong’ On Refugee Vetting Process


1. ....a heated debate over the viability and quality of the vetting process that would allow Syrian refugees into America.

2. ....King explained, “I’m extremely concerned because what the president is telling us is not true. We cannot vet the refugees from Syria.”

PETER KING: I’m extremely concerned because what the president is telling us is not true. We cannot vet the refugees from Syria. There are no databases to work against. There are no government records. And when I talk to people involved in the vetting, they have no confidence at all in the people that are being allowed in. There’s no way. People talk about thorough vetting, there is no vetting as a practical matter. That is the reality.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Hold on a second. There is vetting.

KING: There is not. Mika —

BRZEZINSKI: “There are face-to-face interviews, there’s health screenings. Often it takes two years for a family to get here.

KING: Mika, you’re entirely wrong. You are wrong, you are wrong.

BRZEZINSKI: Actually, sir, I think you’re wrong.

KING: I met with the people doing the interviews. I’m talking to the people involved in the highest levels of government. They tell us that they have no confidence at all. This is not proper vetting. I’m telling you that.

BRZEZINSKI: But the vetting is happening whether you like it or not.

KING: No, it is not a real vetting. You can’t vet if you have nothing to base it against. You are wrong, Mika. You are 1,000 percent wrong, W-R-O-N-G.

BRZEZINSKI: So meeting face-to-face and screening them and interviewing them and often making them wait months and years — that is not a vetting process?

KING: That is not vetting. That is not vetting. No, it is not. You cannot vet unless you have material to base it —

BRZEZINSKI: So should we say, ‘Syrians, stay out of America, you’re not welcome here?’

KING: Mika, we’re not saying Syrians. We’re saying these refugees. Unless we know who the refugees are, we cannot be allowing them in. My job is to protect Americans, not to feel good about myself, not to say that I’m doing something humanitarian. If Americans get killed because we are letting people in because they are not properly vetted — they cannot be properly vetted. How many times am I supposed to tell you this, Mika? You are wrong. They cannot, and it puts American lives at risk."
Rep. King To MSNBC’s Brzezinski: ‘You Are 1,000 Percent Wrong’ On Refugee Vetting Process [VIDEO]

We can blindly accept proven liar Peter King's say-so?

Peter King says Senate CIA report found detainees were not killed, did not suffer 'lasting injuries'

How about this....why don't you tell us how one can be vetted if the one doing the vetting does not have access to a datatbase (be it computerized or paper) from the country of origin?

No passport
no history (available) to look into

How do you vet that person?

 

[BluesLegend]

The President, who won the 'Lie of the Year' award for ObamaCare, is now the front runner in a far more dangerous category: "Vetting Syrian Terrorists....er, Refugees.'


This morning the battle between truth and dishonesty was played out between proxies for the two side:
Representatve Peter King, and Mika Brzezinski....

It was dynomite:


"Rep. King To MSNBC’s Brzezinski: ‘You Are 1,000 Percent Wrong’ On Refugee Vetting Process


1. ....a heated debate over the viability and quality of the vetting process that would allow Syrian refugees into America.

2. ....King explained, “I’m extremely concerned because what the president is telling us is not true. We cannot vet the refugees from Syria.”

PETER KING: I’m extremely concerned because what the president is telling us is not true. We cannot vet the refugees from Syria. There are no databases to work against. There are no government records. And when I talk to people involved in the vetting, they have no confidence at all in the people that are being allowed in. There’s no way. People talk about thorough vetting, there is no vetting as a practical matter. That is the reality.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Hold on a second. There is vetting.

KING: There is not. Mika —

BRZEZINSKI: “There are face-to-face interviews, there’s health screenings. Often it takes two years for a family to get here.

KING: Mika, you’re entirely wrong. You are wrong, you are wrong.

BRZEZINSKI: Actually, sir, I think you’re wrong.

KING: I met with the people doing the interviews. I’m talking to the people involved in the highest levels of government. They tell us that they have no confidence at all. This is not proper vetting. I’m telling you that.

BRZEZINSKI: But the vetting is happening whether you like it or not.

KING: No, it is not a real vetting. You can’t vet if you have nothing to base it against. You are wrong, Mika. You are 1,000 percent wrong, W-R-O-N-G.

BRZEZINSKI: So meeting face-to-face and screening them and interviewing them and often making them wait months and years — that is not a vetting process?

KING: That is not vetting. That is not vetting. No, it is not. You cannot vet unless you have material to base it —

BRZEZINSKI: So should we say, ‘Syrians, stay out of America, you’re not welcome here?’

KING: Mika, we’re not saying Syrians. We’re saying these refugees. Unless we know who the refugees are, we cannot be allowing them in. My job is to protect Americans, not to feel good about myself, not to say that I’m doing something humanitarian. If Americans get killed because we are letting people in because they are not properly vetted — they cannot be properly vetted. How many times am I supposed to tell you this, Mika? You are wrong. They cannot, and it puts American lives at risk."
Rep. King To MSNBC’s Brzezinski: ‘You Are 1,000 Percent Wrong’ On Refugee Vetting Process [VIDEO]

We can blindly accept proven liar Peter King's say-so?

Peter King says Senate CIA report found detainees were not killed, did not suffer 'lasting injuries'

How about this....why don't you tell us how one can be vetted if the one doing the vetting does not have access to a datatbase (be it computerized or paper) from the country of origin?

No passport
no history (available) to look into

How do you vet that person?

If they haven't said anything mean on Twitter and promise to vote Dem the administration stamps them approved.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There is a disturbing number of elected officials in government contradicting each other on national security. Obama says the refuges are being vetted. The FBI director and congressional representatives say oh no they are not. Obama says ISIL is contained yet a prominent Democratic party senator and national security expert says oh no they are not.

Obama, "ISIL is contained"

Senator Feinstein, "I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding." When asked about the threat level Feinstein said, "I have never been more concerned. They just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. And I think we have to be prepared."

Federal law requires Obama to consult with both the House and Senate judiciary committees on admitting refuges to the US and he must meet the burden of proof required for refugee status required by federal law. He can't just wave a wand and declare someone is a refuge.

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

 

[Jarhead]

a very basic rule of thumb in debating....if you must spin the intentions of your opponent in a debate, you are expressing a sense of insecurity in your own position.

Now...since the debate regarding the refugees revolved around the able bodied young men that most on the right and some on the left are concerned about...........the fact that Obama told the world that the GOP is afraid of widows and orphans speaks volumes about how he feels about his position in the debate.'

That being said....anyone who is taking his position....even HE does not agree with it.

 

[Jarhead]

There is a disturbing number of elected officials in government contradicting each other on national security. Obama says the refuges are being vetted. The FBI director and congressional representatives say oh no they are not. Obama says ISIL is contained yet a prominent Democratic party senator and national security expert says oh no they are not.

Obama, "ISIL is contained"

Senator Feinstein, "I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding." When asked about the threat level Feinstein said, "I have never been more concerned. They just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. And I think we have to be prepared."

Federal law requires Obama to consult with both the House and Senate judiciary committees on admitting refuges to the US and he must meet the burden of proof required for refugee status required by federal law. He can't just wave a wand and declare someone is a refuge.

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

you do not know what containment means.
Here....definition:

con·tain·ment
kənˈtānmənt/
noun
noun: containment
the action of keeping something harmful under control or within limits.
"the containment of the AIDS epidemic"

• the action or policy of preventing the expansion of a hostile country or influence.
  "a policy of containment"

They have not been kept under control
They have not been kept within limits...they have actually infiltrated many lands
they have not been kept from expanding in numbers

They have not been contained.....in any sense of the definition.

He lied. and he knew he was lying.

He is a liar.

Has been since the day he lied about public financing back in 2007

 

[PoliticalChic]

he President, who won the 'Lie of the Year' award for ObamaCare

Liar.

It was the rhetoric over a specific part of the AHC law.

Btw, did the Republicans ever apologies for their lies of the year claiming it was a Government takeover(2010) or the whopper about "Death Panels" (2009)?

A look back at PolitiFact’s Lie of the Year

"Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'"
Boiling down the complicated health care law to a soundbite proved treacherous, even for its promoter-in-chief. Obama and his team made matters worse, suggesting they had been misunderstood all along. The stunning political uproar led to this: a rare presidential apology.

For all of these reasons, PolitiFact has named "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it," the Lie of the Year for 2013. Readers in a separate online poll overwhelmingly agreed with the choice."
[VIDEO]Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'



"News - Obama Admits He's a Liar, Apologizes for Lying About ObamaCare!"





Now...clarify: you erroneously claimed that I am a liar, which, as I just proved, I am not.....

....but, did you mean 'liar' as a compliment, as you clearly only vote for and support the liar, Obama?

Should I be thanking you?

You may thank me for pointing out another one of your lies, sure. You're welcome in advance.

I never lie...and I reveal truths you'd rather not be revealed.

This thread is an example of what irks you: you voted for an incompetent ideologue who is about to put all of us in danger.

You always lie and use half truths to embellish the GOP propaganda and talking points. You are a reactionary who does a disservice to our country. Nothing you say irks me. You do however, make me laugh.

LIe???
You mean like this????

BARACK OBAMA
"My position hasn’t changed" on using executive authority to address immigration issues.


BARACK OBAMA
Says his comment about extremists being a JV team "wasn’t specifically referring to" Islamic State.

BARACK OBAMA
"Most young Americans right now, they’re not covered" by health insurance.

BARACK OBAMA
"We’ve got close to 7 million Americans who have access to health care for the first time because of Medicaid expansion."


BARACK OBAMA
The "most realistic estimates" for jobs created by Keystone XL are "maybe 2,000 jobs during the construction of the pipeline."


Admininstration's reports say otherwise

BARACK OBAMA
"Throughout, we have kept Congress fully informed of our efforts" to create a legal framework on counterterrorism.


BARACK OBAMA
Says Mitt Romney "called the Arizona law a model for the nation."http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/

 

[Siete]

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[Jarhead]

The President, who won the 'Lie of the Year' award for ObamaCare, is now the front runner in a far more dangerous category: "Vetting Syrian Terrorists....er, Refugees.'


This morning the battle between truth and dishonesty was played out between proxies for the two side:
Representatve Peter King, and Mika Brzezinski....

It was dynomite:


"Rep. King To MSNBC’s Brzezinski: ‘You Are 1,000 Percent Wrong’ On Refugee Vetting Process


1. ....a heated debate over the viability and quality of the vetting process that would allow Syrian refugees into America.

2. ....King explained, “I’m extremely concerned because what the president is telling us is not true. We cannot vet the refugees from Syria.”

PETER KING: I’m extremely concerned because what the president is telling us is not true. We cannot vet the refugees from Syria. There are no databases to work against. There are no government records. And when I talk to people involved in the vetting, they have no confidence at all in the people that are being allowed in. There’s no way. People talk about thorough vetting, there is no vetting as a practical matter. That is the reality.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Hold on a second. There is vetting.

KING: There is not. Mika —

BRZEZINSKI: “There are face-to-face interviews, there’s health screenings. Often it takes two years for a family to get here.

KING: Mika, you’re entirely wrong. You are wrong, you are wrong.

BRZEZINSKI: Actually, sir, I think you’re wrong.

KING: I met with the people doing the interviews. I’m talking to the people involved in the highest levels of government. They tell us that they have no confidence at all. This is not proper vetting. I’m telling you that.

BRZEZINSKI: But the vetting is happening whether you like it or not.

KING: No, it is not a real vetting. You can’t vet if you have nothing to base it against. You are wrong, Mika. You are 1,000 percent wrong, W-R-O-N-G.

BRZEZINSKI: So meeting face-to-face and screening them and interviewing them and often making them wait months and years — that is not a vetting process?

KING: That is not vetting. That is not vetting. No, it is not. You cannot vet unless you have material to base it —

BRZEZINSKI: So should we say, ‘Syrians, stay out of America, you’re not welcome here?’

KING: Mika, we’re not saying Syrians. We’re saying these refugees. Unless we know who the refugees are, we cannot be allowing them in. My job is to protect Americans, not to feel good about myself, not to say that I’m doing something humanitarian. If Americans get killed because we are letting people in because they are not properly vetted — they cannot be properly vetted. How many times am I supposed to tell you this, Mika? You are wrong. They cannot, and it puts American lives at risk."
Rep. King To MSNBC’s Brzezinski: ‘You Are 1,000 Percent Wrong’ On Refugee Vetting Process [VIDEO]

We can blindly accept proven liar Peter King's say-so?

Peter King says Senate CIA report found detainees were not killed, did not suffer 'lasting injuries'

How about this....why don't you tell us how one can be vetted if the one doing the vetting does not have access to a datatbase (be it computerized or paper) from the country of origin?

No passport
no history (available) to look into

How do you vet that person?

If they haven't said anything mean on Twitter and promise to vote Dem the administration stamps them approved.

putting aside the "vote democrat" thing.......any use of social media is the only thing they can go by. And how many Syrian Refugees do you think are on Facebook?

 

[Jarhead]

use the same vetting process for 5,000 Syrian refugees that Bush used for 84,000 Iraqi refugees ... problem solved.

Nope.
Cant do that.

I guess you have no idea how they vetted them....do you?

No, you don't. For if you did you would know it can not be done with the Syrian Refugees

 

[PoliticalChic]

"....Succar, 57, who immigrated to the United States when he was 10, also noted that “Third World countries, particularly places like Syria, do not have the network of information the United States has.”

“In Syria, there’s no such thing. So when they tell you that [the refugees] are vetted, are you out of your mind?” he said.

Meanwhile, officials in Honduras said Wednesday that five Syrian nationals headed for the United States had been caught with fraudulent ID papers in the capital city of Tegucigalpa, Reuters reported."
http://nypost.com/2015/11/19/syrian-community-leader-isis-is-already-in-new-york-city/

 

[BlindBoo]

There is a disturbing number of elected officials in government contradicting each other on national security. Obama says the refuges are being vetted. The FBI director and congressional representatives say oh no they are not. Obama says ISIL is contained yet a prominent Democratic party senator and national security expert says oh no they are not.

Obama, "ISIL is contained"

Senator Feinstein, "I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding." When asked about the threat level Feinstein said, "I have never been more concerned. They just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. And I think we have to be prepared."

Federal law requires Obama to consult with both the House and Senate judiciary committees on admitting refuges to the US and he must meet the burden of proof required for refugee status required by federal law. He can't just wave a wand and declare someone is a refuge.

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these words mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

 

[Siete]

use the same vetting process for 5,000 Syrian refugees that Bush used for 84,000 Iraqi refugees ... problem solved.

Nope.
Cant do that.

I guess you have no idea how they vetted them....do you?

No, you don't. For if you did you would know it can not be done with the Syrian Refugees

however they were vetted worked out just fine .. and some of those Iraqi refugees came from Syria btw ...

 

[Jarhead]

use the same vetting process for 5,000 Syrian refugees that Bush used for 84,000 Iraqi refugees ... problem solved.

Nope.
Cant do that.

I guess you have no idea how they vetted them....do you?

No, you don't. For if you did you would know it can not be done with the Syrian Refugees

however they were vetted worked out just fine .. and some of those Iraqi refugees came from Syria btw ...

yes...they were vetted in a proper way. We can not vet the Syrians that way.

Read up on it.

You will see.

Night and day.

 

[edthecynic]

2. ....King explained, “I’m extremely concerned because what the president is telling us is not true. We cannot vet the refugees from Syria.”

Wait just a minute there Slick, Teddy Cruz says we can vet the syrian refugees and it is our tradition to bring them here. Cruz is a Senator and King is a mere congressman.

“We have welcomed refugees – the tired, huddled masses – for centuries. That’s been the history of the United States,”
- Ted Cruz

 

[PoliticalChic]

There is a disturbing number of elected officials in government contradicting each other on national security. Obama says the refuges are being vetted. The FBI director and congressional representatives say oh no they are not. Obama says ISIL is contained yet a prominent Democratic party senator and national security expert says oh no they are not.

Obama, "ISIL is contained"

Senator Feinstein, "I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding." When asked about the threat level Feinstein said, "I have never been more concerned. They just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. And I think we have to be prepared."

Federal law requires Obama to consult with both the House and Senate judiciary committees on admitting refuges to the US and he must meet the burden of proof required for refugee status required by federal law. He can't just wave a wand and declare someone is a refuge.

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these word mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

BARACK OBAMA
"The only time government employment has gone down during a recession has been under me."


BARACK OBAMA
"Under the Romney/Ryan budget, interest rates on federal student loans would be allowed to double."


Wrong or misleading from several angles

BARACK OBAMA
"For the first time since 1990, American manufacturers are creating new jobs."

— PolitiFact Wisconsin

BARACK OBAMA
"Preventive care … saves money, for families, for businesses, for government, for everybody."

BARACK OBAMA
"Fast and Furious" began under the Bush administration.

— PolitiFact Florida

Were you saying something about 'lying'???

Were you for it or ag'n it?

 

[Jarhead]

There is a disturbing number of elected officials in government contradicting each other on national security. Obama says the refuges are being vetted. The FBI director and congressional representatives say oh no they are not. Obama says ISIL is contained yet a prominent Democratic party senator and national security expert says oh no they are not.

Obama, "ISIL is contained"

Senator Feinstein, "I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding." When asked about the threat level Feinstein said, "I have never been more concerned. They just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. And I think we have to be prepared."

Federal law requires Obama to consult with both the House and Senate judiciary committees on admitting refuges to the US and he must meet the burden of proof required for refugee status required by federal law. He can't just wave a wand and declare someone is a refuge.

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these word mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

containment has nothing to do with how much ground they occupy. It has to do with how little they can accomplish compared to how much they were accomplishing before we contained them. How harmful they are now compared to how harmful they were before we "contained them"

They have not been contained. They simply cover less territory in Syria and Iraq....but it appears more territory in western countries.

 

[PoliticalChic]

2. ....King explained, “I’m extremely concerned because what the president is telling us is not true. We cannot vet the refugees from Syria.”

Wait just a minute there Slick, Teddy Cruz says we can vet the syrian refugees and it is our tradition to bring them here. Cruz is a Senator and King is a mere congressman.

“We have welcomed refugees – the tired, huddled masses – for centuries. That’s been the history of the United States,”
- Ted Cruz

Where do you find the word "vetted"?

He, instead, referred to making sure of who they are.


We can't.

 

[edthecynic]

I never lie

THAT'S a lie!

 

[PoliticalChic]

I never lie

THAT'S a lie!

I never lie

THAT'S a lie!

"Being a cynic linked to tripled risk of developing dementia, Finland study suggests
Cynics are three times more likely to develop dementia than those who have faith in humanity, a study has shown.

Believing that others are motivated by selfishness, or that they lie to get what they want, appears to radically increase the risk of cognitive decline in later life.

It could mean that grumpy old men and women should be screened more closely for diseases such as Alzheimer’s. Cynicism has previously been linked to health problems such as heart disease, but this is the first time it has been associated with dementia."
Being a cynic linked to tripled risk of developing dementia, Finland study suggests



What did you say your name was????