The Great Divide: Truth vs Lies

[edthecynic]

2. ....King explained, “I’m extremely concerned because what the president is telling us is not true. We cannot vet the refugees from Syria.”

Wait just a minute there Slick, Teddy Cruz says we can vet the syrian refugees and it is our tradition to bring them here. Cruz is a Senator and King is a mere congressman.

“We have welcomed refugees – the tired, huddled masses – for centuries. That’s been the history of the United States,”
- Ted Cruz

Where do you find the word "vetted"?

He, instead, referred to making sure of who they are.


We can't.

Which is vetting, and Cruz clearly said "WE CAN DO THAT" at 1:40 in the video, so you are caught lying yet again.

 

[imawhosure]

There is a disturbing number of elected officials in government contradicting each other on national security. Obama says the refuges are being vetted. The FBI director and congressional representatives say oh no they are not. Obama says ISIL is contained yet a prominent Democratic party senator and national security expert says oh no they are not.

Obama, "ISIL is contained"

Senator Feinstein, "I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding." When asked about the threat level Feinstein said, "I have never been more concerned. They just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. And I think we have to be prepared."

Federal law requires Obama to consult with both the House and Senate judiciary committees on admitting refuges to the US and he must meet the burden of proof required for refugee status required by federal law. He can't just wave a wand and declare someone is a refuge.

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these word mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

Very good Boo, now link me where he stated what the time frame was, from when, to when. Was it from 12:00'oo1 to 12:00'002 standard time or what? He has lied repeatedly, and if you want to change what you think he meant, than show me the timeline he laid out! I can show timelines that show he lied through his pearly whites too!

By the way, it is kinda a trick answer for you, because Iraq no longer exists where ISIS is, because it is now their state, but hey, using symantics is good, just ask a lefty propagandist-)

 

[jillian]

ZOMG. ANOTHER rw nativist hysteria thread? Talking-points much? PLUS, you're an immigrant

Anyway, King? Are you serious PoliticalSpice?

yep. funny,isn't it.. .I mean her talking about truth v lies.

and it's funny how to the Obama-deranged, hyperbole becomes lies...

and then they go listen to ted cruz lie about what the government can and can't do

 

[PoliticalChic]

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these word mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

Very good Boo, now link me where he stated what the time frame was, from when, to when. Was it from 12:00'oo1 to 12:00'002 standard time or what? He has lied repeatedly, and if you want to change what you think he meant, than show me the timeline he laid out! I can show timelines that show he lied through his pearly whites too!

By the way, it is kinda a trick answer for you, because Iraq no longer exists where ISIS is, because it is now their state, but hey, using symantics is good, just ask a lefty propagandist-)

And let's remind his lap dogs that Obama deserves all praise from the ISIS savages because without his aid and acquiescence they would not exist.

Defying all advice, he cleared the field for ISIS by withdrawing US troops.
And then he smoothed over fears by claiming that they were only 'the jayvees.'

Either stupid or a traitor.

 

[PoliticalChic]

ZOMG. ANOTHER rw nativist hysteria thread? Talking-points much? PLUS, you're an immigrant

Anyway, King? Are you serious PoliticalSpice?

yep. funny,isn't it.. .I mean her talking about truth v lies.

and it's funny how to the Obama-deranged, hyperbole becomes lies...

and then they go listen to ted cruz lie about what the government can and can't do

Cruz said we have to verify who they are, first.

Not possible, any more than it is possible to convince you that Obama is not God.

 

[imawhosure]

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these word mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

Very good Boo, now link me where he stated what the time frame was, from when, to when. Was it from 12:00'oo1 to 12:00'002 standard time or what? He has lied repeatedly, and if you want to change what you think he meant, than show me the timeline he laid out! I can show timelines that show he lied through his pearly whites too!

By the way, it is kinda a trick answer for you, because Iraq no longer exists where ISIS is, because it is now their state, but hey, using symantics is good, just ask a lefty propagandist-)

That is 100% correct chic, Obama did create ISIS through his policies that caused a vacuum. Obama has been nothing more than "capitulator and Chief!" The whole Middle East knows it.

Look at France! We have a French Socialist saying that his country is at war! A panzy Socialist! And Obysmal? This is just a setback.

The damn people are telling you they are going to slap you around, and Obama??????????? Well, what does he care, seriously. He gets protection. How many of you do?



And let's remind his lap dogs that Obama deserves all praise from the ISIS savages because without his aid and acquiescence they would not exist.

Defying all advice, he cleared the field for ISIS by withdrawing US troops.
And then he smoothed over fears by claiming that they were only 'the jayvees.'

Either stupid or a traitor.

 

[imawhosure]

That is 100% correct chic, Obama did create ISIS through his policies that caused a vacuum. Obama has been nothing more than "capitulator and Chief!" The whole Middle East knows it.

Look at France! We have a French Socialist saying that his country is at war! A panzy Socialist! And Obysmal? This is just a setback.

The damn people are telling you they are going to slap you around, and Obama??????????? Well, what does he care, seriously. He gets protection. How many of you do?

 

[BlindBoo]

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these word mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

containment has nothing to do with how much ground they occupy. It has to do with how little they can accomplish compared to how much they were accomplishing before we contained them. How harmful they are now compared to how harmful they were before we "contained them"

They have not been contained. They simply cover less territory in Syria and Iraq....but it appears more territory in western countries.

How much territory they control in Iraq is exactly what the President was talking about. It is pure propaganda to spin it any other way. What territory do they control in western countries? Not what countries they can launch attacks on civilians in, but control of territory?

 

[BlindBoo]

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these word mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

BARACK OBAMA
"The only time government employment has gone down during a recession has been under me."


BARACK OBAMA
"Under the Romney/Ryan budget, interest rates on federal student loans would be allowed to double."


Wrong or misleading from several angles

BARACK OBAMA
"For the first time since 1990, American manufacturers are creating new jobs."

— PolitiFact Wisconsin

BARACK OBAMA
"Preventive care … saves money, for families, for businesses, for government, for everybody."

BARACK OBAMA
"Fast and Furious" began under the Bush administration.

— PolitiFact Florida

Were you saying something about 'lying'???

Were you for it or ag'n it?

Specifically it was your lies I was referring too. You're welcome.

 

[Ame®icano]

The President's 'lie' was 97% true. Sarah Palin's death panel lie of the year was 100% false.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these word mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

containment has nothing to do with how much ground they occupy. It has to do with how little they can accomplish compared to how much they were accomplishing before we contained them. How harmful they are now compared to how harmful they were before we "contained them"

They have not been contained. They simply cover less territory in Syria and Iraq....but it appears more territory in western countries.

How much territory they control in Iraq is exactly what the President was talking about. It is pure propaganda to spin it any other way. What territory do they control in western countries? Not what countries they can launch attacks on civilians in, but control of territory?

No, it wasn't .

He was taking an undeserved victory lap....and "irony" stuck its finger in his eye with the slaughter in Paris.


But.....if you like lies....


BARACK OBAMA
"I made a bunch of these promises during the campaign. ... We've got about 60 percent done in three years."


BARACK OBAMA
The president’s proposed budget "will help reduce the deficit by $400 billion over the next decade to the lowest level since Dwight Eisenhower was president."


BARACK OBAMA
Under the White House’s budget proposal, "we will not be adding more to the national debt" by the middle of the decade.


BARACK OBAMA
Twelve judges have thrown out legal challenges to the health care law because they rejected "the notion that the health care law was unconstitutional."


BARACK OBAMA
"I didn't raise taxes once."



There.

Happy now?

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these word mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

BARACK OBAMA
"The only time government employment has gone down during a recession has been under me."


BARACK OBAMA
"Under the Romney/Ryan budget, interest rates on federal student loans would be allowed to double."


Wrong or misleading from several angles

BARACK OBAMA
"For the first time since 1990, American manufacturers are creating new jobs."

— PolitiFact Wisconsin

BARACK OBAMA
"Preventive care … saves money, for families, for businesses, for government, for everybody."

BARACK OBAMA
"Fast and Furious" began under the Bush administration.

— PolitiFact Florida

Were you saying something about 'lying'???

Were you for it or ag'n it?

Specifically it was your lies I was referring too. You're welcome.

You're mistaken.

I never lie.

You must have Obama on your mind......
....see your doctor.

 

[BlindBoo]

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these word mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

Very good Boo, now link me where he stated what the time frame was, from when, to when. Was it from 12:00'oo1 to 12:00'002 standard time or what? He has lied repeatedly, and if you want to change what you think he meant, than show me the timeline he laid out! I can show timelines that show he lied through his pearly whites too!

By the way, it is kinda a trick answer for you, because Iraq no longer exists where ISIS is, because it is now their state, but hey, using symantics is good, just ask a lefty propagandist-)

This is where the line was drawn. The West had too much interest in Erbil to let it fall.

Safe Haven From ISIS: Erbil, in Iraqi Kurdistan, Keeps Jihadists Out, Refugees In

Since then ISIS has lost about 25% of the territory it once controlled.

 

[BluesLegend]

The President, who won the 'Lie of the Year' award for ObamaCare, is now the front runner in a far more dangerous category: "Vetting Syrian Terrorists....er, Refugees.'


This morning the battle between truth and dishonesty was played out between proxies for the two side:
Representatve Peter King, and Mika Brzezinski....

It was dynomite:


"Rep. King To MSNBC’s Brzezinski: ‘You Are 1,000 Percent Wrong’ On Refugee Vetting Process


1. ....a heated debate over the viability and quality of the vetting process that would allow Syrian refugees into America.

2. ....King explained, “I’m extremely concerned because what the president is telling us is not true. We cannot vet the refugees from Syria.”

PETER KING: I’m extremely concerned because what the president is telling us is not true. We cannot vet the refugees from Syria. There are no databases to work against. There are no government records. And when I talk to people involved in the vetting, they have no confidence at all in the people that are being allowed in. There’s no way. People talk about thorough vetting, there is no vetting as a practical matter. That is the reality.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Hold on a second. There is vetting.

KING: There is not. Mika —

BRZEZINSKI: “There are face-to-face interviews, there’s health screenings. Often it takes two years for a family to get here.

KING: Mika, you’re entirely wrong. You are wrong, you are wrong.

BRZEZINSKI: Actually, sir, I think you’re wrong.

KING: I met with the people doing the interviews. I’m talking to the people involved in the highest levels of government. They tell us that they have no confidence at all. This is not proper vetting. I’m telling you that.

BRZEZINSKI: But the vetting is happening whether you like it or not.

KING: No, it is not a real vetting. You can’t vet if you have nothing to base it against. You are wrong, Mika. You are 1,000 percent wrong, W-R-O-N-G.

BRZEZINSKI: So meeting face-to-face and screening them and interviewing them and often making them wait months and years — that is not a vetting process?

KING: That is not vetting. That is not vetting. No, it is not. You cannot vet unless you have material to base it —

BRZEZINSKI: So should we say, ‘Syrians, stay out of America, you’re not welcome here?’

KING: Mika, we’re not saying Syrians. We’re saying these refugees. Unless we know who the refugees are, we cannot be allowing them in. My job is to protect Americans, not to feel good about myself, not to say that I’m doing something humanitarian. If Americans get killed because we are letting people in because they are not properly vetted — they cannot be properly vetted. How many times am I supposed to tell you this, Mika? You are wrong. They cannot, and it puts American lives at risk."
Rep. King To MSNBC’s Brzezinski: ‘You Are 1,000 Percent Wrong’ On Refugee Vetting Process [VIDEO]

We can blindly accept proven liar Peter King's say-so?

Peter King says Senate CIA report found detainees were not killed, did not suffer 'lasting injuries'

How about this....why don't you tell us how one can be vetted if the one doing the vetting does not have access to a datatbase (be it computerized or paper) from the country of origin?

No passport
no history (available) to look into

How do you vet that person?

If they haven't said anything mean on Twitter and promise to vote Dem the administration stamps them approved.

putting aside the "vote democrat" thing.......any use of social media is the only thing they can go by. And how many Syrian Refugees do you think are on Facebook?

Yes I was mocking the Obama doctrine in general with that post.

 

[BluesLegend]

There is a disturbing number of elected officials in government contradicting each other on national security. Obama says the refuges are being vetted. The FBI director and congressional representatives say oh no they are not. Obama says ISIL is contained yet a prominent Democratic party senator and national security expert says oh no they are not.

Obama, "ISIL is contained"

Senator Feinstein, "I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding." When asked about the threat level Feinstein said, "I have never been more concerned. They just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. And I think we have to be prepared."

Federal law requires Obama to consult with both the House and Senate judiciary committees on admitting refuges to the US and he must meet the burden of proof required for refugee status required by federal law. He can't just wave a wand and declare someone is a refuge.

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these words mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

Please tell me what Senator Feinstein's words mean to you: I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding. OH SNAP!!

Senator Feinstein went on to say when asked about the threat level she said she has: Never been more concerned. They just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. And I think we have to be prepared.

 

[imawhosure]

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these word mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

Very good Boo, now link me where he stated what the time frame was, from when, to when. Was it from 12:00'oo1 to 12:00'002 standard time or what? He has lied repeatedly, and if you want to change what you think he meant, than show me the timeline he laid out! I can show timelines that show he lied through his pearly whites too!

By the way, it is kinda a trick answer for you, because Iraq no longer exists where ISIS is, because it is now their state, but hey, using symantics is good, just ask a lefty propagandist-)

This is where the line was drawn. The West had too much interest in Erbil to let it fall.

Safe Haven From ISIS: Erbil, in Iraqi Kurdistan, Keeps Jihadists Out, Refugees In

Since then ISIS has lost about 25% of the territory it once controlled.

You INCOMPETENT lefty, who the hell allowed them to get 100% of the territory that they lost 25% of, in the 1st damn place. PATHETIC logic, and total propaganda on your part. Joseff Goebbells would be proud of you.

 

[imawhosure]

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these word mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

Very good Boo, now link me where he stated what the time frame was, from when, to when. Was it from 12:00'oo1 to 12:00'002 standard time or what? He has lied repeatedly, and if you want to change what you think he meant, than show me the timeline he laid out! I can show timelines that show he lied through his pearly whites too!

By the way, it is kinda a trick answer for you, because Iraq no longer exists where ISIS is, because it is now their state, but hey, using symantics is good, just ask a lefty propagandist-)

This is where the line was drawn. The West had too much interest in Erbil to let it fall.

Safe Haven From ISIS: Erbil, in Iraqi Kurdistan, Keeps Jihadists Out, Refugees In

Since then ISIS has lost about 25% of the territory it once controlled.

Let me see if I have your concept correct; I mean your brilliance is so damn bright, it is blinding me.

I have a billion dollars, someone comes along and takes it from me because I decided not to watch it, so when I take 250 million back, I am a hero? You mean I am NOT a dumb shit Marxist/socialist/incompetent liberal/goof, for losing the whole 1 billion in the 1st place?

I sure hope you are not a CPA or anything like that, because your lefty nonsense is going to cause a load of people to lose a ton of money-)

 

[edthecynic]

ZOMG. ANOTHER rw nativist hysteria thread? Talking-points much? PLUS, you're an immigrant

Anyway, King? Are you serious PoliticalSpice?

yep. funny,isn't it.. .I mean her talking about truth v lies.

and it's funny how to the Obama-deranged, hyperbole becomes lies...

and then they go listen to ted cruz lie about what the government can and can't do

Cruz said we have to verify who they are, first.

Not possible, ...

Cruz clearly said "WE CAN DO THAT" at 1:40 in the video, so you are caught lying yet again.

 

[edthecynic]

I never lie.

Yet another lie, you are a serial liar.

 

[BlindBoo]

ISIS has lost 25% of the territory it held at its peak. That is more than containment.

"Why did Obama declare ISIS 'contained' the day before Paris attack?
Washington (CNN)On Thursday, President Barack Obama declared in an interview that ISIS had been "contained," asserting that the terror cell had been stalled in Iraq and Syria.

The next day, ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the worst terror attacks in European history, shattering what had been a growing sense of momentum in the global fight against extremists and driving home the frightening ability of ISIS to inspire and possibly coordinate attacks outside their power base in Iraq and in Syria."
Obama declared ISIS 'contained' day before Paris attack - CNNPolitics.com

What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."

When Obama said "we have contained them," it’s within a plainly defined scope: ISIS’s territorial ambitions in Iraq and Syria.

Now you in your LEFTY brilliance are going to tell us what the communit.......err, I mean President meant. Words mean things, but Obysmals words mean something else, and you have to have a degree in Marxist/Socialism to be able to decipher the messiahs(praise be his name and holy words) message.

Your propaganda SUCKS! Better go back to school padawan, because you couldn't convince a 5 year old, lololol. Don't feel badly, the jig is up! The whole lefty thing, guess what........besides you lefties, nobody is buying it anymore, and we are laughing!!!!!!!! Hey, want to try global warming later, lololololol.

Please tell me what these words mean to you: "What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq."

Please tell me what Senator Feinstein's words mean to you: I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding. OH SNAP!!

Senator Feinstein went on to say when asked about the threat level she said she has: Never been more concerned. They just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. And I think we have to be prepared.

She wants France to invoke article 5 of the NATO Charter so we can go to war. Her comments in no way change what the president was referring to. Ground ISIS holds and controls in it's so called Caliphate,