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[RealDave]

Another Dumbass misstating what Pelosie said.

That's what she said.

Nope.

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Then what did she say?

“You’ve heard about the controversies, the process about the bill…but I don’t know if you’ve heard that it is legislation for the future – not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America,” she told the National Association of Counties annual legislative conference, which has drawn about 2,000 local officials to Washington. “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it – away from the fog of the controversy.”

1) She was not talking to legislators

2) She was saying that once the bill passes, then the hubris will go away.

Now will you assholes quit lying about this?

No, she actually told the truth for once. She wanted it passed, before people actually read the failed aca. Democrats own this failure 100%, it will haunt you in the 2018 election.

But it was online.

The ACA is not a failure at all.

We will see how 2018 goes when your Senators vote for a Bill after seeing it for two weeks. And in 2020 when the Republican Bill kicks in.

 

[RealDave]

I did not say they did, but they could have & can under the ACA

And they can without the ACA. Let them try it.

Actually all states have a portion of their people on single payer & it works great! It's called Medicare.

Medicare plus supplemental for most people, and that system isn't as awesome as you play it out to be.

I am on Medicare traditional & it is great.

yeah, right.

I went to the doc (My doctor that I have had for 20 plus years), walked out. Paid nothing.

You're stuck paying huge deductibles because this is what your employer gave you. Great choices you have, right?

 

[RealDave]

The States had it & premiums rose every year by nearly double digits, pre-existing conditions ruled the land , & insurance companies called the shots.

Which States had single payer?

And my rates didn't start increasing by tons, and my plans turned into high deductible crap until AFTER Obamacare passed.

National averages say different. The rate of increase has slowed under the ACA.

Don't blame the ACA if you made poor choices on the exchanges. No one said you had to even buy on the exchanges.

I don't use exchanges, I go through my employer. But because of all the bullshit that has to be added that I don't need, the PPO plan tripled, and a high deductible plan with a an HSA became the economic option, even though I liked the PPO, and wanted to keep the PPO. I Thought Obama promised me I could keep it, but I guess he lied.

And this is even BEFORE the Cadillac Tax comes into play, which will make the PPO even MORE expensive, and may even impact my High Deductible/HSA plan.

I get it. You blame Obamacare because your employer is fucking you over.

The ACA had a grandfather clause that allowed policies in existence when the biull was signed to be allowed to contunue. The insurance companies opted not to - blame them.

Nope, I blame the Democrats for passing this shit in the first place. The companies didn't opt out because if they did sooner or later the plans would no longer be eligible for opt out, and the 3 digit increases would happen in 1 year as opposed to spread over 8 or so.

The rate of increase under the ACA is slower than before. Buy hey, I would expect a Trumpette to read a headline & apply it to everyone.

 

[jknowgood]

That's what she said.

Nope.

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Then what did she say?

“You’ve heard about the controversies, the process about the bill…but I don’t know if you’ve heard that it is legislation for the future – not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America,” she told the National Association of Counties annual legislative conference, which has drawn about 2,000 local officials to Washington. “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it – away from the fog of the controversy.”

1) She was not talking to legislators

2) She was saying that once the bill passes, then the hubris will go away.

Now will you assholes quit lying about this?

No, she actually told the truth for once. She wanted it passed, before people actually read the failed aca. Democrats own this failure 100%, it will haunt you in the 2018 election.

But it was online.

The ACA is not a failure at all.

We will see how 2018 goes when your Senators vote for a Bill after seeing it for two weeks. And in 2020 when the Republican Bill kicks in.

Obamacare will implode by the end of the year. Republicans should let that happen and put the blame where it belongs. The Democrat party 100%, not one republican voting for obamacare.

 

[jknowgood]

7 years in the making!

7 Years of bitching & moaning.

Written behind closed doors.

By a bunch of politicians

The world's greatest heath care plan!!!!!!!!!

Read how millions will lose insurance

Read of millions cut from Medicaid

Will those evil ACA Taxes on the wealthy remain?

Will Pre-existing Conditions protects remain?

Can Turtleman spin these into the appearance of a good plan?

Will the feeble minded Trumpettes be duped?

So many questions.

Answers today!!!!

Are they saying we should pass it to find out what's in it?

Another Dumbass misstating what Pelosie said.

 

[martybegan]

And they can without the ACA. Let them try it.

Actually all states have a portion of their people on single payer & it works great! It's called Medicare.

Medicare plus supplemental for most people, and that system isn't as awesome as you play it out to be.

I am on Medicare traditional & it is great.

yeah, right.

I went to the doc (My doctor that I have had for 20 plus years), walked out. Paid nothing.

You're stuck paying huge deductibles because this is what your employer gave you. Great choices you have, right?

We paid something. You are welcome.

It's what my employer was forced to offer due to Obamacare. No Obamacare, not High deductible plan, and i would still be on my PPO, which is offered, but which has tripled in cost the past 5 years.

 

[martybegan]

Which States had single payer?

And my rates didn't start increasing by tons, and my plans turned into high deductible crap until AFTER Obamacare passed.

National averages say different. The rate of increase has slowed under the ACA.

Don't blame the ACA if you made poor choices on the exchanges. No one said you had to even buy on the exchanges.

I don't use exchanges, I go through my employer. But because of all the bullshit that has to be added that I don't need, the PPO plan tripled, and a high deductible plan with a an HSA became the economic option, even though I liked the PPO, and wanted to keep the PPO. I Thought Obama promised me I could keep it, but I guess he lied.

And this is even BEFORE the Cadillac Tax comes into play, which will make the PPO even MORE expensive, and may even impact my High Deductible/HSA plan.

I get it. You blame Obamacare because your employer is fucking you over.

The ACA had a grandfather clause that allowed policies in existence when the biull was signed to be allowed to contunue. The insurance companies opted not to - blame them.

Nope, I blame the Democrats for passing this shit in the first place. The companies didn't opt out because if they did sooner or later the plans would no longer be eligible for opt out, and the 3 digit increases would happen in 1 year as opposed to spread over 8 or so.

The rate of increase under the ACA is slower than before. Buy hey, I would expect a Trumpette to read a headline & apply it to everyone.

Damnable Statistics. My premiums are going up just as fast, and I am getting less stuff for it.

 

[RealDave]

National averages say different. The rate of increase has slowed under the ACA.

Don't blame the ACA if you made poor choices on the exchanges. No one said you had to even buy on the exchanges.

I don't use exchanges, I go through my employer. But because of all the bullshit that has to be added that I don't need, the PPO plan tripled, and a high deductible plan with a an HSA became the economic option, even though I liked the PPO, and wanted to keep the PPO. I Thought Obama promised me I could keep it, but I guess he lied.

And this is even BEFORE the Cadillac Tax comes into play, which will make the PPO even MORE expensive, and may even impact my High Deductible/HSA plan.

I get it. You blame Obamacare because your employer is fucking you over.

The ACA had a grandfather clause that allowed policies in existence when the biull was signed to be allowed to contunue. The insurance companies opted not to - blame them.

Nope, I blame the Democrats for passing this shit in the first place. The companies didn't opt out because if they did sooner or later the plans would no longer be eligible for opt out, and the 3 digit increases would happen in 1 year as opposed to spread over 8 or so.

The rate of increase under the ACA is slower than before. Buy hey, I would expect a Trumpette to read a headline & apply it to everyone.

Damnable Statistics. My premiums are going up just as fast, and I am getting less stuff for it.

First of all, premiums go up every year pasrtly because people get older every year.

Blame your employer for giving you a crappy health benefit.

 

[RealDave]

Actually all states have a portion of their people on single payer & it works great! It's called Medicare.

Medicare plus supplemental for most people, and that system isn't as awesome as you play it out to be.

I am on Medicare traditional & it is great.

yeah, right.

I went to the doc (My doctor that I have had for 20 plus years), walked out. Paid nothing.

You're stuck paying huge deductibles because this is what your employer gave you. Great choices you have, right?

We paid something. You are welcome.

It's what my employer was forced to offer due to Obamacare. No Obamacare, not High deductible plan, and i would still be on my PPO, which is offered, but which has tripled in cost the past 5 years.

Obamacare did not change your PPO. Your employer opted to give you a shit policy.

 

[RealDave]

Nope.

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Then what did she say?

“You’ve heard about the controversies, the process about the bill…but I don’t know if you’ve heard that it is legislation for the future – not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America,” she told the National Association of Counties annual legislative conference, which has drawn about 2,000 local officials to Washington. “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it – away from the fog of the controversy.”

1) She was not talking to legislators

2) She was saying that once the bill passes, then the hubris will go away.

Now will you assholes quit lying about this?

No, she actually told the truth for once. She wanted it passed, before people actually read the failed aca. Democrats own this failure 100%, it will haunt you in the 2018 election.

But it was online.

The ACA is not a failure at all.

We will see how 2018 goes when your Senators vote for a Bill after seeing it for two weeks. And in 2020 when the Republican Bill kicks in.

Obamacare will implode by the end of the year. Republicans should let that happen and put the blame where it belongs. The Democrat party 100%, not one republican voting for obamacare.

No it won't. We will see because anything the Republicans will pass wont take effect by the end of the year.

The CBO said you are full of shit.

 

[RealDave]

Its finally out.

Lets see what a bunch of old men can come up with after 7 years of bitching.

Lower premiums by lowering a policy coverages?

 

[martybegan]

I don't use exchanges, I go through my employer. But because of all the bullshit that has to be added that I don't need, the PPO plan tripled, and a high deductible plan with a an HSA became the economic option, even though I liked the PPO, and wanted to keep the PPO. I Thought Obama promised me I could keep it, but I guess he lied.

And this is even BEFORE the Cadillac Tax comes into play, which will make the PPO even MORE expensive, and may even impact my High Deductible/HSA plan.

I get it. You blame Obamacare because your employer is fucking you over.

The ACA had a grandfather clause that allowed policies in existence when the biull was signed to be allowed to contunue. The insurance companies opted not to - blame them.

Nope, I blame the Democrats for passing this shit in the first place. The companies didn't opt out because if they did sooner or later the plans would no longer be eligible for opt out, and the 3 digit increases would happen in 1 year as opposed to spread over 8 or so.

The rate of increase under the ACA is slower than before. Buy hey, I would expect a Trumpette to read a headline & apply it to everyone.

Damnable Statistics. My premiums are going up just as fast, and I am getting less stuff for it.

First of all, premiums go up every year pasrtly because people get older every year.

Blame your employer for giving you a crappy health benefit.

it went up slower before Obamacare, faster afterwards.

 

[martybegan]

Medicare plus supplemental for most people, and that system isn't as awesome as you play it out to be.

I am on Medicare traditional & it is great.

yeah, right.

I went to the doc (My doctor that I have had for 20 plus years), walked out. Paid nothing.

You're stuck paying huge deductibles because this is what your employer gave you. Great choices you have, right?

We paid something. You are welcome.

It's what my employer was forced to offer due to Obamacare. No Obamacare, not High deductible plan, and i would still be on my PPO, which is offered, but which has tripled in cost the past 5 years.

Obamacare did not change your PPO. Your employer opted to give you a shit policy.

yes, it did. it made it costlier because they had to add more and more coverage items.

 

[RealDave]

I am on Medicare traditional & it is great.

yeah, right.

I went to the doc (My doctor that I have had for 20 plus years), walked out. Paid nothing.

You're stuck paying huge deductibles because this is what your employer gave you. Great choices you have, right?

We paid something. You are welcome.

It's what my employer was forced to offer due to Obamacare. No Obamacare, not High deductible plan, and i would still be on my PPO, which is offered, but which has tripled in cost the past 5 years.

Obamacare did not change your PPO. Your employer opted to give you a shit policy.

yes, it did. it made it costlier because they had to add more and more coverage items.

A good plan would have already covered that stuff.

 

[RealDave]

I get it. You blame Obamacare because your employer is fucking you over.

The ACA had a grandfather clause that allowed policies in existence when the biull was signed to be allowed to contunue. The insurance companies opted not to - blame them.

Nope, I blame the Democrats for passing this shit in the first place. The companies didn't opt out because if they did sooner or later the plans would no longer be eligible for opt out, and the 3 digit increases would happen in 1 year as opposed to spread over 8 or so.

The rate of increase under the ACA is slower than before. Buy hey, I would expect a Trumpette to read a headline & apply it to everyone.

Damnable Statistics. My premiums are going up just as fast, and I am getting less stuff for it.

First of all, premiums go up every year pasrtly because people get older every year.

Blame your employer for giving you a crappy health benefit.

it went up slower before Obamacare, faster afterwards.

Maybe your employer is fucking you over more now than he was before but the national statistics say otherwise.

 

[martybegan]

yeah, right.

I went to the doc (My doctor that I have had for 20 plus years), walked out. Paid nothing.

You're stuck paying huge deductibles because this is what your employer gave you. Great choices you have, right?

We paid something. You are welcome.

It's what my employer was forced to offer due to Obamacare. No Obamacare, not High deductible plan, and i would still be on my PPO, which is offered, but which has tripled in cost the past 5 years.

Obamacare did not change your PPO. Your employer opted to give you a shit policy.

yes, it did. it made it costlier because they had to add more and more coverage items.

A good plan would have already covered that stuff.

I liked my plan, I couldn't keep my plan. I was a single guy, why does my plan need maternity coverage?

 

[martybegan]

Nope, I blame the Democrats for passing this shit in the first place. The companies didn't opt out because if they did sooner or later the plans would no longer be eligible for opt out, and the 3 digit increases would happen in 1 year as opposed to spread over 8 or so.

The rate of increase under the ACA is slower than before. Buy hey, I would expect a Trumpette to read a headline & apply it to everyone.

Damnable Statistics. My premiums are going up just as fast, and I am getting less stuff for it.

First of all, premiums go up every year pasrtly because people get older every year.

Blame your employer for giving you a crappy health benefit.

it went up slower before Obamacare, faster afterwards.

Maybe your employer is fucking you over more now than he was before but the national statistics say otherwise.

Keep running to statistics. Of course you do because they are easier to manipulate.

Obamacare fucked me over, stop trying to cover for it, you fucking hack.


haaaaaaaaccccckkkkkk

 

[RealDave]

I went to the doc (My doctor that I have had for 20 plus years), walked out. Paid nothing.

You're stuck paying huge deductibles because this is what your employer gave you. Great choices you have, right?

We paid something. You are welcome.

It's what my employer was forced to offer due to Obamacare. No Obamacare, not High deductible plan, and i would still be on my PPO, which is offered, but which has tripled in cost the past 5 years.

Obamacare did not change your PPO. Your employer opted to give you a shit policy.

yes, it did. it made it costlier because they had to add more and more coverage items.

A good plan would have already covered that stuff.

I liked my plan, I couldn't keep my plan. I was a single guy, why does my plan need maternity coverage?

Ypu couldn't keep ypun plan because eirther your insurance company or employer decided not to.

Under the ACA, Men & woman pay the same so why write two policirs.

Maybe you need the maternity coverage because they thought you had a pussy instead of being one?

 

[RealDave]

The rate of increase under the ACA is slower than before. Buy hey, I would expect a Trumpette to read a headline & apply it to everyone.

Damnable Statistics. My premiums are going up just as fast, and I am getting less stuff for it.

First of all, premiums go up every year pasrtly because people get older every year.

Blame your employer for giving you a crappy health benefit.

it went up slower before Obamacare, faster afterwards.

Maybe your employer is fucking you over more now than he was before but the national statistics say otherwise.

Keep running to statistics. Of course you do because they are easier to manipulate.

Obamacare fucked me over, stop trying to cover for it, you fucking hack.


haaaaaaaaccccckkkkkk

Your insurance company and/or employer did it.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Repeal Obamacare and get government out of it.

Quaack