The history of left-wing policies

[KNB]

This is my last response to you. You're too stupid for any further effort.

Your moonbat messiah has promoted class envy, demonized the "rich" while taking their money in campaign contributions, and actively used his power to thwart the efforts of "rich" people who opposed his endeavors.

The "rich" who have embezzled billions of dollars through fraudulent "loans" to create "green jobs" are of no concern to you.

That's not capitalism, it's just the same sort of bullshit fascism is founded in. It's basic marxism. That's where fascism came from.

You're just too stupid to see it.

I didn't vote for Obama, Teabagger. You just assume that because I said Republicans are full of shit.

It's not class envy to wonder why record corporate profits are sitting in offshore bank accounts instead of paying living wages to the employees who make these companies so rich.

Yes, basically this liberal says:

Everyone should be entitled to earn the same amount of money regardless of:
Education
Work Ethic
Intelligence
Marketability
Communicates Well
Action Oriented
Risks taken
The ability to strive to succeed, regardless of obstacles

You see, liberals really do believe in the equal sharing of misery.. Incredible

Yes, that's not even close to what I said. You're entirely wrong about everything.

 

[History]

I didn't vote for Obama, Teabagger. You just assume that because I said Republicans are full of shit.

It's not class envy to wonder why record corporate profits are sitting in offshore bank accounts instead of paying living wages to the employees who make these companies so rich.

Yes, basically this liberal says:

Everyone should be entitled to earn the same amount of money regardless of:
Education
Work Ethic
Intelligence
Marketability
Communicates Well
Action Oriented
Risks taken
The ability to strive to succeed, regardless of obstacles

You see, liberals really do believe in the equal sharing of misery.. Incredible

Yes, that's not even close to what I said. You're entirely wrong about everything.

Hahaha the Typical Liberal in the hot seat of a debate.. Oh No, you KNOW I Didn't mean THAT!! Me Bro?? Seriously??

 

[KNB]

Yes, basically this liberal says:

Everyone should be entitled to earn the same amount of money regardless of:
Education
Work Ethic
Intelligence
Marketability
Communicates Well
Action Oriented
Risks taken
The ability to strive to succeed, regardless of obstacles

You see, liberals really do believe in the equal sharing of misery.. Incredible

Yes, that's not even close to what I said. You're entirely wrong about everything.

Hahaha the Typical Liberal in the hot seat of a debate.. Oh No, you KNOW I Didn't mean THAT!! Me Bro?? Seriously??

What? Changing the color of your text doesn't make it more legible.

For someone named "History" who is so amazingly incorrect about history, you shouldn't try to bait anyone because you will be easily torn apart.

No one said anything about anyone "earning the same amount of money regardless of whatever". Asking why record corporate profits aren't trickling down the way trickle-down theory says they will is not "class envy" or any other bullshit right-wing terms. It's a basic economics question.

Trickle-down theory states that if the 1% job creators have more disposable income, they can expand businesses and increase wages and benefits, thus a "rising tide lifts all boats". This is the most basic explanation of supply-side theory. But if the 1% job creators don't spend their trillions of dollars, then those record corporate profits aren't trickling down. If nothing is trickling down, then trickle-down theory is a lie.

 

[rightwinger]

-The left passed Jim Crow laws
-They formed the KKK and the White Knights
-They were behind assassinations of Abraham Lincoln, Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr., Attempted to take a jab at Reagan
-They were for slavery and still enslave the blacks today with "free stuff" in exchange for votes so that they may not gain higher ground in society today.
-They founded abortion for the sole purpose of eliminating the black community.

Actually you have no clue on the difference between liberal/conservative and the Democratic and Republican parties

Google is your friend

 

[jasonnfree]

Really? That's interesting. I seem to recall that REPUBLICAN President Abraham Lincoln lead the effort to end slavery and the Demcorats vehemently opposed it (as they did again during the Civil Rights movement in the 1960's).

Abe Lincoln was a liberal. Liberals authored and passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

The following was copied from Wikipedia, pertaining to the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. If you pay attention to the numbers you will find it (probably to your surprise) that in every category the Democrats were far more reluctant to pass it than the Republicans. (by percentage, since both House and Senate had Democratic majority).

Also you will see the name of a Democrat icon in a place that should be uncomfortable for any democrat with a smidgeon of decency.

The original House version:

Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)

Cloture in the Senate:

Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version:

Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

By party and region

Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)

Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

It's not realistic to use statistics this old. The southern democrats of old are now republican. A big shift in the mid 60's.

 

[jasonnfree]

-The left passed Jim Crow laws
-They formed the KKK and the White Knights
-They were behind assassinations of Abraham Lincoln, Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr., Attempted to take a jab at Reagan
-They were for slavery and still enslave the blacks today with "free stuff" in exchange for votes so that they may not gain higher ground in society today.
-They founded abortion for the sole purpose of eliminating the black community.

Actually you have no clue on the difference between liberal/conservative and the Democratic and Republican parties

Google is your friend

The right wing is always trying to change history. MLK was at the forefront of protesting against the establishment and the war industry. MLK was anti war, pro union, and was leading labor strikes in many cities at the time of his assassination. He certainly would have been at Occupy wall street. I can remember many of the right wingers of the day hating him with a passion. They were exactly like some of these delusional right wingers of today who are trying to claim King as one of their own now.

 

[Bfgrn]

Really? That's interesting. I seem to recall that REPUBLICAN President Abraham Lincoln lead the effort to end slavery and the Demcorats vehemently opposed it (as they did again during the Civil Rights movement in the 1960's).

You are obviously illiterate regarding the history of political parties in the United States. It must be a concerted effort on your part to be ignorant.

"During the 1860s, Republicans, who dominated northern states, orchestrated an ambitious expansion of federal power, helping to fund the transcontinental railroad, the state university system and the settlement of the West by homesteaders, and instating a national currency and protective tariff. Democrats, who dominated the South, opposed these measures. After the Civil War, Republicans passed laws that granted protections for African Americans and advanced social justice; again, Democrats largely opposed these expansions of power"

"Sound like an alternate universe? Fast forward to 1936. Democratic president Franklin Roosevelt won reelection that year on the strength of the New Deal, a set of Depression-remedying reforms including regulation of financial institutions, founding of welfare and pension programs, infrastructure development and more. Roosevelt won in a landslide against Republican Alf Landon, who opposed these exercises of federal power."

"Abraham Lincoln, the 16th U.S. President and a Republican (left), and Franklin Roosevelt, the 32nd U.S. President and a Democrat. The Republican and Democratic parties effectively switched platforms between their presidencies"

Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? | Democrats & Republicans | LiveScience

I'm no history buff, but at least I know this one.

The problem you are having is the inability to distinguish the thing from the terminology. "Democrat" and "Republican" are terms that name a group of people. There is no inherent behaviors that are ascribed to those terms. They are simply the name of political parties which can have any platform they wish at any time they wish. There is no firm connection between the terms "Democrat/Republican" and the terms "conservative/liberal". Historically, Republicans were liberal and Democrats were conservative. Then they slowly switched platforms.

Exactly junior. You are no history buff. I, in fact, am. And this whole "switch parties" thing is called Dumbocrat propaganda. They are so desperate to cover up their ugly and evil history - but too dumb to come up with a good excuse - that they are trying to convince the world that millions of members on each side just suddenly agreed one day to trade the name of their parties...

Tell me junior, if everyone "switched" parties, how do you explain that the Dumbocrats still vehemently opposed the Civil Rights movement in the 1960's? Oh wait - that's right - you're "not a history buff". Well allow me to educate you junior:

• West Virginia Dumbocrat Senator Robert Byrd was a proud member of the KKK
  
  
• And lets not forget your presidents quote. Despite heavy opposition against the Civil Rights Act of 1957 by Democrats, including John F. Kennedy, Johnson was convinced that if his party could steal the 'thunder' from the Republican lead Civil Rights efforts, support among black voters would shift:

"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don't move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there'll be no way of stopping them, we'll lose the filibuster and there'll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It'll be Reconstruction all over again." --Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1957

The Democrat Plantation: Top Racist Quotes by Notable Left Wingers

That LBJ quote is bogus. That quote can be found all over the internet on Rightwing blogs, and it can be traced back to one book by a very Rightwing author, Ronald Kessler, and it's in a book called Inside the White House. And [the quote] has never been corroborated by anyone else. He is the only person who ever alleged that LBJ said that.

 

[Bfgrn]

Abe Lincoln was a liberal. Liberals authored and passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

The following was copied from Wikipedia, pertaining to the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. If you pay attention to the numbers you will find it (probably to your surprise) that in every category the Democrats were far more reluctant to pass it than the Republicans. (by percentage, since both House and Senate had Democratic majority).

Also you will see the name of a Democrat icon in a place that should be uncomfortable for any democrat with a smidgeon of decency.

The original House version:

Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)

Cloture in the Senate:

Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version:

Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

By party and region

Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)

Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

It's not realistic to use statistics this old. The southern democrats of old are now republican. A big shift in the mid 60's.

It is VERY realistic to use the FACTS of the vote on the bill and the reality of the 1960's

 

[Iceweasel]

If true, you would think that they would have included capitalism in the Constitution somewhere. Alas, there is no economic system included. Know what that means? It means that socialism isn't unconstitutional.

Wrong. Capitalism is included in concept. The word isn't there but the freedom of commerce and limit government role is. Socialism very definitely restricts freedoms and increases government role to making people subjects of the states. Capitalists are citizens.

 

[Iceweasel]

It is VERY realistic to use the FACTS of the vote on the bill and the reality of the 1960's

Spinning facts don't make the spin true. You are trying to rewrite history to suit your agenda of hate and intolerance.

 

[jasonnfree]

If true, you would think that they would have included capitalism in the Constitution somewhere. Alas, there is no economic system included. Know what that means? It means that socialism isn't unconstitutional.

Wrong. Capitalism is included in concept. The word isn't there but the freedom of commerce and limit government role is. Socialism very definitely restricts freedoms and increases government role to making people subjects of the states. Capitalists are citizens.

Both philosophies restrict freedom, socialist or capitalism. You can't leave the country without their permission, and if a male doesn't register for the draft he can be fined and/or imprisoned. With socialism there are some safety nets, God bless FDR and LBJ. Under capitalism you have the freedom to starve or die from lack of health care without state interference.

 

[editec]

Its so funny watching you people distort history to make your clueless partisan points.

My concern is that many of you believe the crap you post.

 

[Bfgrn]

It is VERY realistic to use the FACTS of the vote on the bill and the reality of the 1960's

Spinning facts don't make the spin true. You are trying to rewrite history to suit your agenda of hate and intolerance.

WHERE is the spin pea brain? The 1964 Civil Rights Act was proposed by President John F. Kennedy in 1963, authored by Democrats, passed by northern Democrats and Republicans and signed by President Lyndon Johnson.

 

[Iceweasel]

Both philosophies restrict freedom, socialist or capitalism. You can't leave the country without their permission, and if a male doesn't register for the draft he can be fined and/or imprisoned. With socialism there are some safety nets, God bless FDR and LBJ. Under capitalism you have the freedom to starve or die from lack of health care without state interference.

What are you talking about? I went into Canada numerous times with no passport, I think you need it to get in now though. Probably the same with Mexico. Nothing about capitalism controls that or the draft, which we haven't had for decades.

It is VERY realistic to use the FACTS of the vote on the bill and the reality of the 1960's

Spinning facts don't make the spin true. You are trying to rewrite history to suit your agenda of hate and intolerance.

WHERE is the spin pea brain? The 1964 Civil Rights Act was proposed by President John F. Kennedy in 1963, authored by Democrats, passed by northern Democrats and Republicans and signed by President Lyndon Johnson.

Unfortunately, JFK wouldn't fit in with today's Democrats. As soon as he piped up about lowering taxes they would disown him. But onto your spin:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-says-gop-fought-hard-civil-rights-bills-196/
The Civil Rights Act -- which is best known for barring discrimination in public accommodations -- passed the House on Feb. 10, 1964 by a margin of 290-130. When broken down by party, 61 percent of Democratic lawmakers voted for the bill (152 yeas and 96 nays), and a full 80 percent of the Republican caucus supported it (138 yeas and 34 nays).

The Civil Rights Act -- which is best known for barring discrimination in public accommodations -- passed the House on Feb. 10, 1964 by a margin of 290-130. When broken down by party, 61 percent of Democratic lawmakers voted for the bill (152 yeas and 96 nays), and a full 80 percent of the Republican caucus supported it (138 yeas and 34 nays).

In the Senate, the measure passed by a 77-19 vote, with 73 percent of Democrats and 94 percent of Republicans supporting the bill.

So it's clear that Republican support for both bills was deep. But to make sure we weren't missing something, we contacted a number of scholars who have studied that period, asking whether Republicans were dragged into supporting the bills reluctantly, or whether they took frontline roles in advancing them.

Generally speaking, the scholars we talked to agreed that Republicans were important players, usually working cooperatively with Johnson and other leading Democrats.

 

[P@triot]

-The left passed Jim Crow laws
-They formed the KKK and the White Knights
-They were behind assassinations of Abraham Lincoln, Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr., Attempted to take a jab at Reagan
-They were for slavery and still enslave the blacks today with "free stuff" in exchange for votes so that they may not gain higher ground in society today.
-They founded abortion for the sole purpose of eliminating the black community.

Actually you have no clue on the difference between liberal/conservative and the Democratic and Republican parties

Google is your friend

We do have a clue. You're just embarrassed over what your party stands for and you're a useful idiot who buys the comical and transparent propaganda.

• Republicans freed the slaves - idiot Dumbocrats like you opposed it
  
  
• Republicans lead the Civil Rights movement - idiot Dumbocrats like you opposed it
  
  
• Idiot Dumbocrats like you (Margaret Sanger) wanted to kill "*******" and thought it sounded better to call it "eugenics"
  
  
• Idiot Dumbocrats like you (Senator Byrd) wanted to kill "*******" and joined the KKK
  
  
• Idiot Dumbocrats like you (Lyndon Johnson) hated "*******" but loved power more than they hated blacks - so they treated them as useful idiots and patronized them for their vote.

 

[P@triot]

LOL!! DERP!! 95% of financial gains have gone to the 1% job creators. That's Marxism according to Teabaggers who think that Herman Cain and Sarah Palin are smart.

This is my last response to you. You're too stupid for any further effort.

Your moonbat messiah has promoted class envy, demonized the "rich" while taking their money in campaign contributions, and actively used his power to thwart the efforts of "rich" people who opposed his endeavors.

The "rich" who have embezzled billions of dollars through fraudulent "loans" to create "green jobs" are of no concern to you.

That's not capitalism, it's just the same sort of bullshit fascism is founded in. It's basic marxism. That's where fascism came from.

You're just too stupid to see it.

I didn't vote for Obama, Teabagger. You just assume that because I said Republicans are full of shit.

It's not class envy to wonder why record corporate profits are sitting in offshore bank accounts instead of paying living wages to the employees who make these companies so rich.

So this leaves many unanswered questions:

• What constitutes a "living wage" in your mind?
  
  
• Why don't you provide those "living wage" jobs instead of demanding someone else do it? No, really [MENTION=45917]KNB[/MENTION]? Too greedy? Too lazy? Why?
  
  
• If those people feel they aren't receiving a "living wage" why don't they go into business for themselves? Nobody gave Bill Gates a job - he created one for himself. Nobody gave Steve Jobs a job - he created one for himself. Nobody gave Larry Ellison a job - he created one for himself. Nobody gave Michael Dell a job - he created one for himself. Nobody gave Mark Zuckerberg a job - he created one for himself.

I could literally go on all day but this is more than enough to prove what a tool you are, what a hypocrite you are, and what a moron you are.

 

[P@triot]

It's not class envy to wonder why record corporate profits are sitting in offshore bank accounts instead of paying living wages to the employees who make these companies so rich.

People can't receive "living wages" because of the idiot left-wing marxist policies you support. You do realize that for every employee who receives a paycheck, the company has to pay taxes for each and every one of them, don't you? Of course not - you've already illustrated the extraordinary depth of your ignorance on every topic. It's called payroll tax junior. And it's one of about 70 taxes the corporations have to pay because of greedy and lazy Dumbocrats.

Here is a basic reality that you're simply too stupid to understand:

Thinks about junior. Then have someone explain it to you.

 

[rightwinger]

-The left passed Jim Crow laws
-They formed the KKK and the White Knights
-They were behind assassinations of Abraham Lincoln, Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr., Attempted to take a jab at Reagan
-They were for slavery and still enslave the blacks today with "free stuff" in exchange for votes so that they may not gain higher ground in society today.
-They founded abortion for the sole purpose of eliminating the black community.

Actually you have no clue on the difference between liberal/conservative and the Democratic and Republican parties

Google is your friend

We do have a clue. You're just embarrassed over what your party stands for and you're a useful idiot who buys the comical and transparent propaganda.

• Republicans freed the slaves - idiot Dumbocrats like you opposed it
  
  
• Republicans lead the Civil Rights movement - idiot Dumbocrats like you opposed it
  
  
• Idiot Dumbocrats like you (Margaret Sanger) wanted to kill "*******" and thought it sounded better to call it "eugenics"
  
  
• Idiot Dumbocrats like you (Senator Byrd) wanted to kill "*******" and joined the KKK
  
  
• Idiot Dumbocrats like you (Lyndon Johnson) hated "*******" but loved power more than they hated blacks - so they treated them as useful idiots and patronized them for their vote.

I enjoy it when posters remind people of what a great party the Republicans used to be

It should be required reading for ALL of today's Republicans

 

[regent]

There seems to be some difficulty with the mixing of political party labels, i.e. Democrat, Republican and political ideology labels liberal and conservative. This can really be confusing when discussing our early history, when liberals called themselves Republicans, add to that the splinter labels, socialist, Marxist, right winger, Whigs, Federalists, Fascists, Tories etc.

 

[Iceweasel]

There seems to be some difficulty with the mixing of political party labels, i.e. Democrat, Republican and political ideology labels liberal and conservative. This can really be confusing when discussing our early history, when liberals called themselves Republicans...

Huh? When did that happen?

The party platforms are there for anyone to find, there's no difficulty. The "difficulty" comes in when liberals try to spin things and equate Democrat or liberal with good and Republican or conservative with evil.