The Left: " Employers Are Responsible For Illegal Immigration"

[Independent thinker]

Name calling?
Scientific fact!

Calling me names and insulting me is a scientific fact? Come to think of it, you're right!

 

[Dadoalex]

That's a disingenuous way to use data. The whole of the East and Gulf Coasts can be and is patrolled by our Coast Guard, there will be no boat people swarming from Europe, the Caribbean, or Africa without our knowledge.

The vast majority of our land borders are in the north, which includes the entire eastern border between Alaska and Canada plus the whole Alaskan Coast, each Alaskan island, and of course our northernmost states. For Canada to be a problem would drain them of population. Not really an issue. Although it is always wise to keep an eye on the other barbarians at the gates.

Your misleading nonsense numbers also include the sum of Hawaii's coastlines. Again, we will have ample warning of any boat people trying to invade Hawaii from Asia long before they could arrive. That would also be true of the whole Pacific Coast.

That leaves the southern border. Much it is simply untenable to cross easily. Meaning with use of walls and even fences, invaders can be herded to inhospitable areas in which large numbers simply cannot cross. Try harder.

If you "secure the border" you secure the entire border.
Else it just a talking point.

 

[Dadoalex]

Calling me names and insulting me is a scientific fact? Come to think of it, you're right!

Tiny Minded Ape Like Creature.

Go look up the thread.

 

[Rogue AI]

If you "secure the border" you secure the entire border.
Else it just a talking point.

Are you really that dense? I guess you are. Bye, disingenuous liar.

 

[Dadoalex]

Are you really that dense? I guess you are. Bye, disingenuous liar.

You shall be missed. NOT!

 

[DudleySmith]

LOL. Meanwhile, people can't afford their groceries or pay their rents.

Your 'business community' and big giant billionaire 'investors' isn't coming through for the country aftr being handed all those bennies, tax shelters, and outright grants. They just continue to kill off competition and charge more for doing a lot less. You can keep whining about 'burger flippers n stuff'; all that does is make it easy for people who live in the real world and know these 'shortages' are artificial and profit margins sky high. So go ahead and sell the bullshit that the poor need to work for coolie wages and zero returns on education and hard work; it's obviously working wonders for you right wing parrots, right?

 

[DudleySmith]

Shoeless mexican peasants are not known to be strong swimmers

Seal the border with mexico and the alien invasion will slow to a trickle

Stop providing welfare, housing, jobs, and free health care for them at the expense of Americans, and start locking up employers and levy real fines against companies and contractors who hire them, and they go away. Most aren't 'desperate refugees', they're just part of an organized scam, is all.

 

[Unkotare]

Stop providing welfare, housing, jobs, and free health care for them at the expense of Americans, and start locking up employers and levy real fines against companies and contractors who hire them, and they go away. Most aren't 'desperate refugees', they're just part of an organized scam, is all.

Fact Sheet: Immigrants and Public Benefits

Are undocumented immigrants eligible for federal public benefit programs? Generally no. Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are ineligible to receive most federal public benefits, including means-tested benefits such as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, sometimes...

immigrationforum.org

"Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are ineligible to receive most federal public benefits, including means-tested benefits such as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, sometimes referred to as food stamps), regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for health care subsidies under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and are prohibited from purchasing unsubsidized health coverage on ACA exchanges."

 

[DudleySmith]

Fact Sheet: Immigrants and Public Benefits

Are undocumented immigrants eligible for federal public benefit programs? Generally no. Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are ineligible to receive most federal public benefits, including means-tested benefits such as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, sometimes...

immigrationforum.org

"Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are ineligible to receive most federal public benefits, including means-tested benefits such as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, sometimes referred to as food stamps), regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for health care subsidies under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and are prohibited from purchasing unsubsidized health coverage on ACA exchanges."

You're an idiot, so your claim is as always utter bullshit. They get free everything out the ass. Did you see them carting dead bodies of those who starved to death on the busses from Texas to NYC? Should have been lots of them, right? all the morgues should be full of famine victims, right? Read a paper once in while, or wait until you finish school and try again.

 

[Unkotare]

You're an idiot, so your claim is as always utter bullshit. ....

It's not my "claim," it's FACT. Facts don't change because of what you want to imagine and get pissed about.


"Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are ineligible to receive most federal public benefits, including means-tested benefits such as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, sometimes referred to as food stamps), regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for health care subsidies under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and are prohibited from purchasing unsubsidized health coverage on ACA exchanges."

 

[Unkotare]

.... or wait until you finish school and try again.

I finished teaching class an hour ago.

 

[Unkotare]

"In general, unauthorized immigrants within the United States are not eligible for any federal public benefits"

Federal Benefit Eligibility for Unauthorized Immigrants

Unauthorized immigrants in the United States are not eligible for federal public benefits, with exceptions for certain emergency assistance, nutrition, and K-12 education.

www.ncsl.org

 

[80zephyr]

I finished teaching class an hour ago.

Illegal immigration now costs US taxpayers $151 billion a year, new study finds

A new study on the costs of illegal immigrants puts the net cost at approximately $150 billion a year, according to a new study by a hawkish immigration group.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Unkotare]

"Most immigrants living illegally in the country are not eligible for benefits from federal programs. "

Immigrants often can’t access assistance programs

Ahead of the tax filing season, a Facebook post sarcastically told taxpayers to file on time because immigrants illegall

www.politifact.com

 

[Unkotare]

"Undocumented immigrants pay sales, income and property taxes. In 2021, these households contributed $30.8 billion in total taxes, including $18.6 billion in federal income taxes and $12.2 billion in state and local taxes."

Fact Brief : Do undocumented immigrants pay taxes? | Gigafact

YES, Undocumented immigrants pay sales, income and property taxes. In 2021, these households contributed $30.8 billion in total taxes, including $18.6 billion in federal income taxes and $12.2 billion in s

gigafact.org

 

[80zephyr]

"Undocumented immigrants pay sales, income and property taxes. In 2021, these households contributed $30.8 billion in total taxes, including $18.6 billion in federal income taxes and $12.2 billion in state and local taxes."

Fact Brief : Do undocumented immigrants pay taxes? | Gigafact

YES, Undocumented immigrants pay sales, income and property taxes. In 2021, these households contributed $30.8 billion in total taxes, including $18.6 billion in federal income taxes and $12.2 billion in s

gigafact.org

Yes, but they cost more than they pay in. Stands to reason, does it not? Our own poor cost us money, why wouldn't an illegal cost us money?

 

[Unkotare]

"Immigrants are 80% more likely to start a business than people born in the U.S., according to a new study co-authored by an MIT researcher in American Economic Review: Insights. The new research found that per capita, foreign-born residents started more businesses of all sizes. The study's results are in keeping with findings in previous research."

Immigrants are 80% more likely to start businesses in the U.S. than native-born citizens, study finds

Immigrants are 80% more likely than native-born citizens to start a business, according to a new study co-authored by a researcher at MIT.

www.wbur.org

 

[80zephyr]

"Immigrants are 80% more likely to start a business than people born in the U.S., according to a new study co-authored by an MIT researcher in American Economic Review: Insights. The new research found that per capita, foreign-born residents started more businesses of all sizes. The study's results are in keeping with findings in previous research."

Immigrants are 80% more likely to start businesses in the U.S. than native-born citizens, study finds

Immigrants are 80% more likely than native-born citizens to start a business, according to a new study co-authored by a researcher at MIT.

www.wbur.org

Ok, but that isn't the question.

 

[DudleySmith]

Yes, but they cost more than they pay in. Stands to reason, does it not? Our own poor cost us money, why wouldn't an illegal cost us money?

Legal immigrants are also a net loss in costs as well. According to a study done for Democrats in Florida.

The economics of migration

In John Lalors recent article (Open the doors and let foreign workers in), Mr Lalor claimed that "America, for example, has always enjoyed a net contribution to its tax system from immigration policies-be they legal or otherwise."

www.independent.ie

The numbers don't include the lower wages for citizens due to surplus labor.

 

[DudleySmith]

"Immigrants are 80% more likely to start a business than people born in the U.S., according to a new study co-authored by an MIT researcher in American Economic Review: Insights. The new research found that per capita, foreign-born residents started more businesses of all sizes. The study's results are in keeping with findings in previous research."

Immigrants are 80% more likely to start businesses in the U.S. than native-born citizens, study finds

Immigrants are 80% more likely than native-born citizens to start a business, according to a new study co-authored by a researcher at MIT.

www.wbur.org

Rubbish. These numbers are claiming employees claimed as ' contractors' and paid on 1099's are 'businesses'; all they are is scams to avoid payroll taxes for their employers.