The Left vs. the Internet

[koshergrl]

"....today’s Left .... are now frantically trying to put the genie back in the bottle by trying to force the Internet to abide by the rules of a college campus. The threat to brand anyone who objects to leftist social control as a troll or unperson has always been the preferred strategy of the most disturbed radicals, but the fact that this line of attack can be parroted by the outgoing CEO of Reddit speaks volumes about how paranoid and embattled the current Left feels in the face of Internet culture.

"Not to brag, but I so called this. In early 2010, I wrote an article called “Internet Lays Foundation for GOP Rebirth,” arguing that while the GOP had fallen behind in the web arms race during the 2008 election, one day, the anarchic nature of the Internet would force it to turn on the very liberals who had once celebrated it. The reason?
"One element of internet subculture which is persistently invoked is the drive for free expression (often of the most politically incorrect variety possible), unhampered by restrictions of either an economic or governmental variety, and certainly without regard for offended parties.

"The Democratic party, dominated as it is by multiculturally-minded quasi-socialists, many of whom have arguably been long since emasculated by sensitivity training, speech codes and other cornerstones of ‘progressive’ victim-mongering, could not possibly provide a satisfactory home to such people."

The Left Versus The Internet

 

[Moonglow]

 

[emilynghiem]

"....today’s Left .... are now frantically trying to put the genie back in the bottle by trying to force the Internet to abide by the rules of a college campus. The threat to brand anyone who objects to leftist social control as a troll or unperson has always been the preferred strategy of the most disturbed radicals, but the fact that this line of attack can be parroted by the outgoing CEO of Reddit speaks volumes about how paranoid and embattled the current Left feels in the face of Internet culture.

"Not to brag, but I so called this. In early 2010, I wrote an article called “Internet Lays Foundation for GOP Rebirth,” arguing that while the GOP had fallen behind in the web arms race during the 2008 election, one day, the anarchic nature of the Internet would force it to turn on the very liberals who had once celebrated it. The reason?
"One element of internet subculture which is persistently invoked is the drive for free expression (often of the most politically incorrect variety possible), unhampered by restrictions of either an economic or governmental variety, and certainly without regard for offended parties.

"The Democratic party, dominated as it is by multiculturally-minded quasi-socialists, many of whom have arguably been long since emasculated by sensitivity training, speech codes and other cornerstones of ‘progressive’ victim-mongering, could not possibly provide a satisfactory home to such people."

The Left Versus The Internet

Dear koshergrl
Liberals like G.T. are too busy running away
and blocking arguments they can't deal with.

I was going to propose to use online access
to organize democratic conferences by party,
where everyone can participate and shape policies.

But if people like G.T. are too scared to participate,
then the liberals won't be represented, I guess!

The impression I got is being more afraid of their
own shadows and projected images onto others.

More a danger to themselves and their own Self-Censorship.
Cannot deal with the CONTENT of natural and constitutional laws,
and cannot deal with the fact that spiritual healing can change the human conditions
the liberals spend so much energy trying to "legislate" around.

I thought I was a progressive liberal.
But if I have to start acting like a scared chicken,
and run the other way, then I must not be that!!!

 

[guno]

"....today’s Left .... are now frantically trying to put the genie back in the bottle by trying to force the Internet to abide by the rules of a college campus. The threat to brand anyone who objects to leftist social control as a troll or unperson has always been the preferred strategy of the most disturbed radicals, but the fact that this line of attack can be parroted by the outgoing CEO of Reddit speaks volumes about how paranoid and embattled the current Left feels in the face of Internet culture.

"Not to brag, but I so called this. In early 2010, I wrote an article called “Internet Lays Foundation for GOP Rebirth,” arguing that while the GOP had fallen behind in the web arms race during the 2008 election, one day, the anarchic nature of the Internet would force it to turn on the very liberals who had once celebrated it. The reason?
"One element of internet subculture which is persistently invoked is the drive for free expression (often of the most politically incorrect variety possible), unhampered by restrictions of either an economic or governmental variety, and certainly without regard for offended parties.

"The Democratic party, dominated as it is by multiculturally-minded quasi-socialists, many of whom have arguably been long since emasculated by sensitivity training, speech codes and other cornerstones of ‘progressive’ victim-mongering, could not possibly provide a satisfactory home to such people."

The Left Versus The Internet

Dear koshergrl
Liberals like G.T. are too busy running away
and blocking arguments they can't deal with.

I was going to propose to use online access
to organize democratic conferences by party,
where everyone can participate and shape policies.

But if people like G.T. are too scared to participate,
then the liberals won't be represented, I guess!

The impression I got is being more afraid of their
own shadows and projected images onto others.

More a danger to themselves and their own Self-Censorship.
Cannot deal with the CONTENT of natural and constitutional laws,
and cannot deal with the fact that spiritual healing can change the human conditions
the liberals spend so much energy trying to "legislate" around.

I thought I was a progressive liberal.
But if I have to start acting like a scared chicken,
and run the other way, then I must not be that!!!

 

[G.T.]

"....today’s Left .... are now frantically trying to put the genie back in the bottle by trying to force the Internet to abide by the rules of a college campus. The threat to brand anyone who objects to leftist social control as a troll or unperson has always been the preferred strategy of the most disturbed radicals, but the fact that this line of attack can be parroted by the outgoing CEO of Reddit speaks volumes about how paranoid and embattled the current Left feels in the face of Internet culture.

"Not to brag, but I so called this. In early 2010, I wrote an article called “Internet Lays Foundation for GOP Rebirth,” arguing that while the GOP had fallen behind in the web arms race during the 2008 election, one day, the anarchic nature of the Internet would force it to turn on the very liberals who had once celebrated it. The reason?
"One element of internet subculture which is persistently invoked is the drive for free expression (often of the most politically incorrect variety possible), unhampered by restrictions of either an economic or governmental variety, and certainly without regard for offended parties.

"The Democratic party, dominated as it is by multiculturally-minded quasi-socialists, many of whom have arguably been long since emasculated by sensitivity training, speech codes and other cornerstones of ‘progressive’ victim-mongering, could not possibly provide a satisfactory home to such people."

The Left Versus The Internet

Dear koshergrl
Liberals like G.T. are too busy running away
and blocking arguments they can't deal with.

I was going to propose to use online access
to organize democratic conferences by party,
where everyone can participate and shape policies.

But if people like G.T. are too scared to participate,
then the liberals won't be represented, I guess!

The impression I got is being more afraid of their
own shadows and projected images onto others.

More a danger to themselves and their own Self-Censorship.
Cannot deal with the CONTENT of natural and constitutional laws,
and cannot deal with the fact that spiritual healing can change the human conditions
the liberals spend so much energy trying to "legislate" around.

I thought I was a progressive liberal.
But if I have to start acting like a scared chicken,
and run the other way, then I must not be that!!!

I came here to say 2 things upon being tagged, monkey:

#1. Not a liberal, im an independent you bigot.

#2. Ignoring your walls of text is not done out of fear, its done because its too tedious to deconstruct the 1, 600 lines PER POST of your logical fallacies.


If being concise, intelligent and to the point were world peace, youd be armageddon.

 

[emilynghiem]

"....today’s Left .... are now frantically trying to put the genie back in the bottle by trying to force the Internet to abide by the rules of a college campus. The threat to brand anyone who objects to leftist social control as a troll or unperson has always been the preferred strategy of the most disturbed radicals, but the fact that this line of attack can be parroted by the outgoing CEO of Reddit speaks volumes about how paranoid and embattled the current Left feels in the face of Internet culture.

"Not to brag, but I so called this. In early 2010, I wrote an article called “Internet Lays Foundation for GOP Rebirth,” arguing that while the GOP had fallen behind in the web arms race during the 2008 election, one day, the anarchic nature of the Internet would force it to turn on the very liberals who had once celebrated it. The reason?
"One element of internet subculture which is persistently invoked is the drive for free expression (often of the most politically incorrect variety possible), unhampered by restrictions of either an economic or governmental variety, and certainly without regard for offended parties.

"The Democratic party, dominated as it is by multiculturally-minded quasi-socialists, many of whom have arguably been long since emasculated by sensitivity training, speech codes and other cornerstones of ‘progressive’ victim-mongering, could not possibly provide a satisfactory home to such people."

The Left Versus The Internet

Dear koshergrl
Liberals like G.T. are too busy running away
and blocking arguments they can't deal with.

I was going to propose to use online access
to organize democratic conferences by party,
where everyone can participate and shape policies.

But if people like G.T. are too scared to participate,
then the liberals won't be represented, I guess!

The impression I got is being more afraid of their
own shadows and projected images onto others.

More a danger to themselves and their own Self-Censorship.
Cannot deal with the CONTENT of natural and constitutional laws,
and cannot deal with the fact that spiritual healing can change the human conditions
the liberals spend so much energy trying to "legislate" around.

I thought I was a progressive liberal.
But if I have to start acting like a scared chicken,
and run the other way, then I must not be that!!!

I came here to say 2 things upon being tagged, monkey:

#1. Not a liberal, im an independent you bigot.

#2. Ignoring your walls of text is not done out of fear, its done because its too tedious to deconstruct the 1, 600 lines PER POST of your logical fallacies.


If being concise, intelligent and to the point were world peace, youd be armageddon.

There you are! So glad you are a real man and not a chicken.
If you were really all that chicken you would have given up way long ago
or not even bothered with me.

Thank you G.T. for putting up with me and my long holistic messages.

If you are an independent, that might explain why you would bother trying to work it out as long as you did!

Some points I want to run past you
as EXAMPLES of how consensus can be formed on marriage and benefit laws

EXAMPLE:

1. What if the benefits are for two primary partners and two dependent beneficiaries.
and NO relations are named at all. So this keeps it NEUTRAL.
and it is the same for everyone because it is based on NUMBER not relationships.

So you are NOT restricted to just having the primary relationship be couples, married romantic or parents etc.

It can be mother-son, sister-brother,
or it can be two friends who want to share benefits/property/tax credits or whatever.

And same for up to two "dependents" that don't have to be one's children.
You can take care of an elderly neighbor, or a disabled sibling.

I don't know if you can name PETS or not but some people do
believe in naming their PETS as beneficiaries or heirs to their estates.

G.T. isn't this one example of how the issue of marriage can be avoided altogether
yet still include that as an option. All couples could still use the partnership for themselves,
without specifying what their RELATIONSHIP is.

Do you see how this BYPASSES the issue of marriage altogether yet still allows for it to be INCLUDED.

2. Since you are pushing for MANDATORY acceptance of gay couples equally as straight couples,
why not make it MANDATORY that ALL couples go through counseling in advance, such as legal and financial counseling to know what the LAWS are for legal responsibilities for children and shared property or changing contracts. OR spiritual healing therapy (whether gay straight etc) to make sure that any issues of abuse or addiction are addressed that could otherwise cause "relationship abuse". So this doesn't just target homosexuals as assumed to "not having healthy normal relations" but ANYONE who might have an abusive relationships could get screened in advance by catching abnormal patterns through spiritual healing therapy and counseling.

If people who have an issue with "couples not being natural," then the spiritual healing therapy would screen out and resolve any such unnatural relations that aren't healthy and stable.
And it wouldn't discriminate against certain couples if ALL couples (see above, heterosexual or homosexual, business or family partners, any partners) were required to go through this before signing into a civil contract.

If this isn't secular enough, then going through screening for "legal competency and responsibility" might catch a lot of the same issues if someone really has sick issues and would abuse a partner or kids if they aren't screened in advance to get help to qualify as "legally competent and responsible" to enter a civil contract that involves agreement to respect the rights of the other parties (ie right to due process, to be informed in advance before changing the contract, to the mediation and conflict resolution process to avoid violating each other's equal protections, some basic principles of civil laws necessary for contracts to be enforced by mutually binding agreement)

3. The idea of having all citizens sign agreements for legal and financial responsibility upon turning legal age as an independent citizen. This might serve as another way to screen out potentially sick and dangerous people who aren't able to take legal responsibility for their actions if they are that mentally or criminally ill.
If people are sick, to the point of posing risks or costs to taxpayers, then either they or a legal guardian can be asked to sign for how to pay for any damages incurred. And if they can't afford the risk, that is where I am asking to set up local programs in every district to share responsibility for managing the supervision, education and training for any such "dependent" persons to live as independently as possible instead of running people randomly through prisons and mental wards on a revolving door basis with no support or follow up to help them.

I'm just offering ideas for how there can be responsibility for social benefits
instead of the system we have now.

This isn't exact, it's just an example of where to even begin discussing policies
and how the costs of social programs and assistance can be managed with Accountability.

It can't just be random handouts with no conditions where anyone can use or abuse the benefits.

If there is responsibility legally and financially, then the focus is on more sustainable and effective
uses of resources to become independent and not just using the system assuming the help is subsidized.

I've run into too much of that "dependent" mentality where there is more fear than motivation
to take responsibility and ownership.

I am more independent and want to set up systems that anyone can use to receive assistance, education, training and either loans, credits or investments to take responsibility and ownership of programs we currently run through govt in ways that take the authority AWAY from the people instead of teaching local management.

sorry if this bores you.

To me it is the next big challenge to invite Candidates from all parties to put together collaborative solutions, and test out pilot programs, so we can prove what works best for govt reforms BEFORE proposing such policies.

Why not use the Campaign season to test out future leaders and ideas, and publicize the ones that work best??

 

[G.T.]

Tl dr

 

[emilynghiem]

Tl dr

Okay babycakes
one small bite at a time to spoonfeed the little baby boo boo:

Example of how benefits laws could be written to be NEUTRAL,
and include married couples but not specify that:

What if the benefits are for two primary partners and two dependent beneficiaries.
and NO relations are named at all. So this keeps it NEUTRAL.
and it is the same for everyone because it is based on NUMBER not relationships.

So you are NOT restricted to just having the primary relationship be couples, married romantic or parents etc.

It can be mother-son, sister-brother,
or it can be two friends who want to share benefits/property/tax credits or whatever.

And same for up to two "dependents" that don't have to be one's children.
You can take care of an elderly neighbor, or a disabled sibling.

I don't know if you can name PETS or not but some people do
believe in naming their PETS as beneficiaries or heirs to their estates.

G.T. isn't this one example of how the issue of marriage can be avoided altogether
yet still include that as an option. All couples could still use the partnership for themselves,
without specifying what their RELATIONSHIP is.

 

[G.T.]

Theres no NECESSITY for marriage to be avoided but to be a bigot appeaser because gays were allowed to marry.

Doing backflips to appease a bigotted view makes one a bigot, by proxy.

Marriage doesnt need to be eradicated at the state level nor changed.

No, appeasing people who want to RESTRICT others' marriage rights is not right, or fair.

Its being a bigot appeaser.

 

[Mr. H.]

"....today’s Left .... are now frantically trying to put the genie back in the bottle by trying to force the Internet to abide by the rules of a college campus. The threat to brand anyone who objects to leftist social control as a troll or unperson has always been the preferred strategy of the most disturbed radicals, but the fact that this line of attack can be parroted by the outgoing CEO of Reddit speaks volumes about how paranoid and embattled the current Left feels in the face of Internet culture.

"Not to brag, but I so called this. In early 2010, I wrote an article called “Internet Lays Foundation for GOP Rebirth,” arguing that while the GOP had fallen behind in the web arms race during the 2008 election, one day, the anarchic nature of the Internet would force it to turn on the very liberals who had once celebrated it. The reason?
"One element of internet subculture which is persistently invoked is the drive for free expression (often of the most politically incorrect variety possible), unhampered by restrictions of either an economic or governmental variety, and certainly without regard for offended parties.

"The Democratic party, dominated as it is by multiculturally-minded quasi-socialists, many of whom have arguably been long since emasculated by sensitivity training, speech codes and other cornerstones of ‘progressive’ victim-mongering, could not possibly provide a satisfactory home to such people."

The Left Versus The Internet

Dear koshergrl
Liberals like G.T. are too busy running away
and blocking arguments they can't deal with.

I was going to propose to use online access
to organize democratic conferences by party,
where everyone can participate and shape policies.

But if people like G.T. are too scared to participate,
then the liberals won't be represented, I guess!

The impression I got is being more afraid of their
own shadows and projected images onto others.

More a danger to themselves and their own Self-Censorship.
Cannot deal with the CONTENT of natural and constitutional laws,
and cannot deal with the fact that spiritual healing can change the human conditions
the liberals spend so much energy trying to "legislate" around.

I thought I was a progressive liberal.
But if I have to start acting like a scared chicken,
and run the other way, then I must not be that!!!

Bitch, behave.

You too!

 

[emilynghiem]

Theres no NECESSITY for marriage to be avoided but to be a bigot appeaser because gays were allowed to marry.

Doing backflips to appease a bigotted view makes one a bigot, by proxy.

Marriage doesnt need to be eradicated at the state level nor changed.

No, appeasing people who want to RESTRICT others' marriage rights is not right, or fair.

Its being a bigot appeaser.

G.T. you are assuming I didn't or don't recognize the right of gays to marry. Why?

I always assumed this is a natural given choice. There never SHOULD have been a battle to legalize it,
because the bans were unconstitutional to begin with and should NEVER have been put up to vote.
That's as obvious to me as the proposed legislation seeking to ban Islamic mosques. Nix to begin with!

Just like Buddhism is already legal even if Christians go around rejecting and denying Buddhists.
And no state law should be passed "in the first place" banning Buddhism!

Why do you keep bringing up the bans that other people argue for and assuming I am coming
from that angle which is FOREIGN to me. I don't even recognize those bans, it is clearly unconstitutional
to ban gay marriage as an INHERENT religious freedom. Never should have had to be fought in court.

The legislation against Mosques or Shariah practices are being challenged legally also.
I am guessing the Muslims are having better luck winning their arguments if they SHARE the same respect as Christians and Conservatives for the Constitution as given by God.

Which is more than I can say for the liberals pushing their agenda using Govt and Judges as their God to decide these things for them. Maybe that's why these arguments depend on going to Washington to defend that side.
I can derive the same rights directly by the First Amendment, but for people who DON'T invoke authority directly by Natural Laws, then maybe this is why people who DON'T believe in natural rights keep relying on Govt for those??

 

[Obiwan]

Personal experience...

My roommate is a black Lib (and a military vet) that I'm trying to help start a business...

GAME ON!!!

He will be a Republican yet!

Another small business owner, instead of a welfare receipient!!!

 

[Mr. H.]

Personal experience...

My roommate is a black Lib (and a military vet) that I'm trying to help start a business...

GAME ON!!!

He will be a Republican yet!

Another small business owner, instead of a welfare receipient!!!

My best friend in college was a black guy. First time I met him, he came to our door in the dormitory and asked if I had any rolling papers. I took a step back and said "What makes you think we smoke"?

His reply... "Dude we can smell it".

 

[Moonglow]

"....today’s Left .... are now frantically trying to put the genie back in the bottle by trying to force the Internet to abide by the rules of a college campus. The threat to brand anyone who objects to leftist social control as a troll or unperson has always been the preferred strategy of the most disturbed radicals, but the fact that this line of attack can be parroted by the outgoing CEO of Reddit speaks volumes about how paranoid and embattled the current Left feels in the face of Internet culture.

"Not to brag, but I so called this. In early 2010, I wrote an article called “Internet Lays Foundation for GOP Rebirth,” arguing that while the GOP had fallen behind in the web arms race during the 2008 election, one day, the anarchic nature of the Internet would force it to turn on the very liberals who had once celebrated it. The reason?
"One element of internet subculture which is persistently invoked is the drive for free expression (often of the most politically incorrect variety possible), unhampered by restrictions of either an economic or governmental variety, and certainly without regard for offended parties.

"The Democratic party, dominated as it is by multiculturally-minded quasi-socialists, many of whom have arguably been long since emasculated by sensitivity training, speech codes and other cornerstones of ‘progressive’ victim-mongering, could not possibly provide a satisfactory home to such people."

The Left Versus The Internet

Dear koshergrl
Liberals like G.T. are too busy running away
and blocking arguments they can't deal with.

I was going to propose to use online access
to organize democratic conferences by party,
where everyone can participate and shape policies.

But if people like G.T. are too scared to participate,
then the liberals won't be represented, I guess!

The impression I got is being more afraid of their
own shadows and projected images onto others.

More a danger to themselves and their own Self-Censorship.
Cannot deal with the CONTENT of natural and constitutional laws,
and cannot deal with the fact that spiritual healing can change the human conditions
the liberals spend so much energy trying to "legislate" around.

I thought I was a progressive liberal.
But if I have to start acting like a scared chicken,
and run the other way, then I must not be that!!!

Bitch, behave.

You too!

 

[Moonglow]

Personal experience...

My roommate is a black Lib (and a military vet) that I'm trying to help start a business...

GAME ON!!!

He will be a Republican yet!

Another small business owner, instead of a welfare receipient!!!

Did you tell him that?

 

[Mr. H.]

"....today’s Left .... are now frantically trying to put the genie back in the bottle by trying to force the Internet to abide by the rules of a college campus. The threat to brand anyone who objects to leftist social control as a troll or unperson has always been the preferred strategy of the most disturbed radicals, but the fact that this line of attack can be parroted by the outgoing CEO of Reddit speaks volumes about how paranoid and embattled the current Left feels in the face of Internet culture.

"Not to brag, but I so called this. In early 2010, I wrote an article called “Internet Lays Foundation for GOP Rebirth,” arguing that while the GOP had fallen behind in the web arms race during the 2008 election, one day, the anarchic nature of the Internet would force it to turn on the very liberals who had once celebrated it. The reason?
"One element of internet subculture which is persistently invoked is the drive for free expression (often of the most politically incorrect variety possible), unhampered by restrictions of either an economic or governmental variety, and certainly without regard for offended parties.

"The Democratic party, dominated as it is by multiculturally-minded quasi-socialists, many of whom have arguably been long since emasculated by sensitivity training, speech codes and other cornerstones of ‘progressive’ victim-mongering, could not possibly provide a satisfactory home to such people."

The Left Versus The Internet

Dear koshergrl
Liberals like G.T. are too busy running away
and blocking arguments they can't deal with.

I was going to propose to use online access
to organize democratic conferences by party,
where everyone can participate and shape policies.

But if people like G.T. are too scared to participate,
then the liberals won't be represented, I guess!

The impression I got is being more afraid of their
own shadows and projected images onto others.

More a danger to themselves and their own Self-Censorship.
Cannot deal with the CONTENT of natural and constitutional laws,
and cannot deal with the fact that spiritual healing can change the human conditions
the liberals spend so much energy trying to "legislate" around.

I thought I was a progressive liberal.
But if I have to start acting like a scared chicken,
and run the other way, then I must not be that!!!

Bitch, behave.

You too!

Woman, I will deal with you later.

Now fry me some eggs, bitch!

 

[Obiwan]

Personal experience...

My roommate is a black Lib (and a military vet) that I'm trying to help start a business...

GAME ON!!!

He will be a Republican yet!

Another small business owner, instead of a welfare receipient!!!

Did you tell him that?

Helping him start a business and get ahead.

 

[Moonglow]

Personal experience...

My roommate is a black Lib (and a military vet) that I'm trying to help start a business...

GAME ON!!!

He will be a Republican yet!

Another small business owner, instead of a welfare receipient!!!

Did you tell him that?

Helping him start a business and get ahead.

No, your bigotry of blacks...

 

[emilynghiem]

Personal experience...

My roommate is a black Lib (and a military vet) that I'm trying to help start a business...

GAME ON!!!

He will be a Republican yet!

Another small business owner, instead of a welfare receipient!!!

My best friend in college was a black guy. First time I met him, he came to our door in the dormitory and asked if I had any rolling papers. I took a step back and said "What makes you think we smoke"?

His reply... "Dude we can smell it".

My roommate in college introduced me to black rap or whatever music that was
when I heard squealing and squawking coming from her room.

I thought she was screaming over a mouse or something so I ran to her aid.

She was vocalizing to a tape and that noise was like adding her own percussion track,
not really singing but jamming along. I had no idea what that was. She laughed at me
and thought it was funny I was worried she was screaming for help.

When I go to the services at the historic Black churches in my district,
I am also the only Asian person there. I am used to not fitting in and always being
culturally different from anyone else around me.

I have grown to assume everyone is going to be different anyway, might as well jump in
and deal with those differences because I'm automatically different from anyone else. Get over it.

 

[emilynghiem]

Personal experience...

My roommate is a black Lib (and a military vet) that I'm trying to help start a business...

GAME ON!!!

He will be a Republican yet!

Another small business owner, instead of a welfare receipient!!!

Did you tell him that?

Helping him start a business and get ahead.

The number one thing I recommend to people in business is
to learn to manage property. If you can figure the best way that
works for you, whether nonprofit business school or church/charity
then you will always be in charge of your situation. If you don't even
have plans or experience with the sites you are going to live or operate from,
then you won't be equal to people who do control their spaces.

This goes hand in hand with networking to establish which people
you are going to work with longterm, and how to manage your resources.
The focus should be on stabilizing control of a space and using that to support,
generate and sustain the business plans.