The liberal march towards EXTREME fascism

[owebo]

How interesting that these scared people have to just create their own definitions when real ones don't suit them. Trumpers.

Since we know that the left believes in unlimited government with maximum power, it's very easy to understand that the further left you go, government continues to get larger and more powerful. As you start to go further left, you reach the socialist. As you continue, you start to hit the radical fringe - the Marxists. Finally, the farthest fringe and the very end is the Communist, Fascist, or Totalitarianism . These groups believes in in total government control. A person has no freedoms or rights - they do as instructed by the government for the "good" of the entire nation.

The radical fringe of the left, believe it or not, is actually more scary and dangerous than the radical fringe of the right. While the radical fringe of the right has murderous tendencies, these are almost always limited to individuals or very small groups. The radical fringe of the left, through out history, are responsible for the murder of HUNDREDS of MILLIONS. The well known, notorious examples below:

• Joseph Stalin - estimates are he was responsible for orchestrating the death of anywhere from 40 to 60 million people
  
• Adolf Hitler - responsible for orchestrating the death of over 11 million people
  
• Vladimir Lenin - estimates are he was responsible for orchestrating the death of nearly 3.5 million people.
  
• Benito Mussolini - estimates are he was responsible for orchestrating the death of many thousands
  
• Saddam Hussein - estimates are he was responsible for orchestrating the death of many thousands

As you can see, the radical left is far more dangerous than the radical right because of the power handed to them by the people. While the fringe right is limited in the havoc they can wreak because they are extremely limited in their resources, the radical left has nearly unlimited resources because of their control over the government, and hence, the people.

I think I would enjoy this thread more without the cut and paste, it makes me feel like I'm arguing against a book. Do you think you could put your own thoughts into your answers?

Don't go away mad fascist liberal...just go away....

 

[bripat9643]

fascism
noun

1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

Here's a free education for you. Left wing is collectivist government. That means anything where government has control over the people. Right wing is NO government. In other words anarchy.

Your opinion of the word doesn't hold as fact, sir. I've provided two official definitions that are NOT my opinion. Why don't you try that and get back to us. I won't hold my breath.

They may not be your opinion, but they are still opinion.

 

[owebo]

From the Far Left to the Far Right....


4R) ANARCHISM


3R) COMMUNISM


2R) SOCIALISM


1R) LIBERALISM/PROGRESSIVISM


============================


1L) CONSERVATIVISM


2L) REACTIONARIANISM


3L) MONARCHISM


4L) FASCISM/NAZISM


Hitler and the Nazis were right wing. This is how they considered themselves, this is how their current neo-nazi successors consider themselves. Its how everyone considered them in their heyday: The Russian Communists, the US Capitalists, the various European and Asian nations: All knew the Nazis were the voice of the far right. This is how history has always considered them. It was never a question when they were in power. Hitler CLEARLY situated ANTI-COMMUNISM as a core facet of his political vision.

not quite.....

 

[bripat9643]

The confusion about fascism is that most people think of Nazi Germany as the ultimate fascism. The Nazi's weren't really fascists. They were extreme nationalists and racists. But more than that they were led by a generation of WWI vets that suffered extreme PTSS. They were out for revenge.

True fascism is Mussolini fascism. Mussolini is the guy that coined the term fascism. He was for extreme suppression of the workers - an absolute dictatorship of the wealthy. He used nationalism as a tool to win the loyalty of the Italian WWI vets and turn them against the workers.

What a load of horseshit. Mussolini claimed he was a big supporter of the workers.

 

[Juan de Fuca]

How interesting that these scared people have to just create their own definitions when real ones don't suit them. Trumpers.

Since we know that the left believes in unlimited government with maximum power, it's very easy to understand that the further left you go, government continues to get larger and more powerful. As you start to go further left, you reach the socialist. As you continue, you start to hit the radical fringe - the Marxists. Finally, the farthest fringe and the very end is the Communist, Fascist, or Totalitarianism . These groups believes in in total government control. A person has no freedoms or rights - they do as instructed by the government for the "good" of the entire nation.

The radical fringe of the left, believe it or not, is actually more scary and dangerous than the radical fringe of the right. While the radical fringe of the right has murderous tendencies, these are almost always limited to individuals or very small groups. The radical fringe of the left, through out history, are responsible for the murder of HUNDREDS of MILLIONS. The well known, notorious examples below:

• Joseph Stalin - estimates are he was responsible for orchestrating the death of anywhere from 40 to 60 million people
  
• Adolf Hitler - responsible for orchestrating the death of over 11 million people
  
• Vladimir Lenin - estimates are he was responsible for orchestrating the death of nearly 3.5 million people.
  
• Benito Mussolini - estimates are he was responsible for orchestrating the death of many thousands
  
• Saddam Hussein - estimates are he was responsible for orchestrating the death of many thousands

As you can see, the radical left is far more dangerous than the radical right because of the power handed to them by the people. While the fringe right is limited in the havoc they can wreak because they are extremely limited in their resources, the radical left has nearly unlimited resources because of their control over the government, and hence, the people.

I think I would enjoy this thread more without the cut and paste, it makes me feel like I'm arguing against a book. Do you think you could put your own thoughts into your answers?

Don't go away mad fascist liberal...just go away....

Well I heard when you ran away from home the newspaper in your town said "Do not come home and all will be forgiven"

 

[P@triot]

It is the conservatives that want to tell you what you can do in your bedroom,

Why do liberals insist on lying? It's liberals that insist the government climb into their bed with them. Conservatives say "keep government out of the gay relationship". It's liberals that are dragging government kicking and screaming into their bed with them.

 

[Juan de Fuca]

The confusion about fascism is that most people think of Nazi Germany as the ultimate fascism. The Nazi's weren't really fascists. They were extreme nationalists and racists. But more than that they were led by a generation of WWI vets that suffered extreme PTSS. They were out for revenge.

True fascism is Mussolini fascism. Mussolini is the guy that coined the term fascism. He was for extreme suppression of the workers - an absolute dictatorship of the wealthy. He used nationalism as a tool to win the loyalty of the Italian WWI vets and turn them against the workers.

What a load of horseshit. Mussolini claimed he was a big supporter of the workers.

Cite? it's the only way anyone can educate you.

 

[owebo]

How interesting that these scared people have to just create their own definitions when real ones don't suit them. Trumpers.

Since we know that the left believes in unlimited government with maximum power, it's very easy to understand that the further left you go, government continues to get larger and more powerful. As you start to go further left, you reach the socialist. As you continue, you start to hit the radical fringe - the Marxists. Finally, the farthest fringe and the very end is the Communist, Fascist, or Totalitarianism . These groups believes in in total government control. A person has no freedoms or rights - they do as instructed by the government for the "good" of the entire nation.

The radical fringe of the left, believe it or not, is actually more scary and dangerous than the radical fringe of the right. While the radical fringe of the right has murderous tendencies, these are almost always limited to individuals or very small groups. The radical fringe of the left, through out history, are responsible for the murder of HUNDREDS of MILLIONS. The well known, notorious examples below:

• Joseph Stalin - estimates are he was responsible for orchestrating the death of anywhere from 40 to 60 million people
  
• Adolf Hitler - responsible for orchestrating the death of over 11 million people
  
• Vladimir Lenin - estimates are he was responsible for orchestrating the death of nearly 3.5 million people.
  
• Benito Mussolini - estimates are he was responsible for orchestrating the death of many thousands
  
• Saddam Hussein - estimates are he was responsible for orchestrating the death of many thousands

As you can see, the radical left is far more dangerous than the radical right because of the power handed to them by the people. While the fringe right is limited in the havoc they can wreak because they are extremely limited in their resources, the radical left has nearly unlimited resources because of their control over the government, and hence, the people.

I think I would enjoy this thread more without the cut and paste, it makes me feel like I'm arguing against a book. Do you think you could put your own thoughts into your answers?

Don't go away mad fascist liberal...just go away....

Well I heard when you ran away from home the newspaper in your town said "Do not come home and all will be forgiven"

Actually, it went bankrupt....fascist liberal unions....

 

[bripat9643]

The left has always been fascist in nature (obviously - since fascism is a form of government oppression). But in the past few years, the left has made a rapid march towards extreme fascism.

They engage in massive speech control campaigns. If Donald Trump attempts to hold a political rally - they riot (costing a fortune in damage to public and private property). If someone attempts to merely attend a Donald Trump political rally, the left engages in violent assaults. Fascism.

They engage in massive thought control campaigns. If someone wishes to avoid homosexual acts or homosexual celebrations (whether it be for religious reasons, comfort reasons, or just plain old hate), the left attempts to turn that into a crime and advocates for the government to place a gun to the head of those individuals and force them to take part in the homosexual activities. And of course - they've advocated for and manufactured the comical "hate crime" fallacy. Fascism.

This story here is a remarkable indication of the left's embrace of extreme fascism. It revolves around the "Soldiers of Odin". A group rightfully concerned with radical islam. And yet despite being peaceful while liberals engage in violent assaults, the left wants to label these individuals as a "hate" group. So what happened when this group deployed members to a mosque in Denver? Did they brutally attack and bloody muslims like liberals do? Nope. Quite the contrary - the imam of the mosque invited the group in to sit down and talk. They had a peaceful and cordial interaction?

This "incident" is literally the shining example of America at its finest. Concerned citizens form a group of their own free will. The muslims not only continue to engage in their right to religious freedom - but they invite the concerned group into their mosque to see for themselves and to engage in dialect. Everything America was built on and intended to be. And yet the left is angry about this - desperate to falsely label the group a "hate" group and to eliminate them.

A Growing Vigilante Group Is Targeting U.S. Mosques

Let's just start right here, Mr. P:

"They engage in massive speech control campaigns. If Donald Trump attempts to hold a political rally - they riot..."

Riot? You mean a handful of people who stand up, shout and then are bodily removed by security is a riot? How old are you?

""" (costing a fortune in damage to public and private property).""

Because these individuals are escorted outside the building?

"" If someone attempts to merely attend a Donald Trump political rally, the left engages in violent assaults. Fascism.""
fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun

1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

Mr. P, you are an idiot, sir. I won't even bother reading the rest of your drivel.

Here is a quick overview for you junior....

Conservatives believe in small government with limited power. Which means the more "radical" you go right, government continues to get smaller and less powerful (Sovereign Citizen) until you reach the most radical form of all - no government (ie Anarchist).

Liberals believe in large government controlling everything. Which means, the more "radical" you go left, government continues to get bigger and more powerful until you have fascism, totalitarianism, communism, etc.

What's the source, little man? Afraid to post that? Because it's probably from a right wing source.

The source is COMMON SENSE stupid. That was my post and everything stated is a fact.

You seriously can't comprehend the difference between right-wing and left-wing? Geez....

They can't even define "right wing" and "left wing."

 

[ScienceRocks]

Lol,

Yep, releasing prisoners that are serving time for smoking pot = fascism
Allowing gays to marry is fascism
Allowing transgender people to come out and feel safe = fascism
Helping the poor is fascism.


The far right is mentally insane.

 

[P@triot]

The left has always been fascist in nature (obviously - since fascism is a form of government oppression). But in the past few years, the left has made a rapid march towards extreme fascism.

They engage in massive speech control campaigns. If Donald Trump attempts to hold a political rally - they riot (costing a fortune in damage to public and private property). If someone attempts to merely attend a Donald Trump political rally, the left engages in violent assaults. Fascism.

They engage in massive thought control campaigns. If someone wishes to avoid homosexual acts or homosexual celebrations (whether it be for religious reasons, comfort reasons, or just plain old hate), the left attempts to turn that into a crime and advocates for the government to place a gun to the head of those individuals and force them to take part in the homosexual activities. And of course - they've advocated for and manufactured the comical "hate crime" fallacy. Fascism.

This story here is a remarkable indication of the left's embrace of extreme fascism. It revolves around the "Soldiers of Odin". A group rightfully concerned with radical islam. And yet despite being peaceful while liberals engage in violent assaults, the left wants to label these individuals as a "hate" group. So what happened when this group deployed members to a mosque in Denver? Did they brutally attack and bloody muslims like liberals do? Nope. Quite the contrary - the imam of the mosque invited the group in to sit down and talk. They had a peaceful and cordial interaction?

This "incident" is literally the shining example of America at its finest. Concerned citizens form a group of their own free will. The muslims not only continue to engage in their right to religious freedom - but they invite the concerned group into their mosque to see for themselves and to engage in dialect. Everything America was built on and intended to be. And yet the left is angry about this - desperate to falsely label the group a "hate" group and to eliminate them.

A Growing Vigilante Group Is Targeting U.S. Mosques

Let's just start right here, Mr. P:

"They engage in massive speech control campaigns. If Donald Trump attempts to hold a political rally - they riot..."

Riot? You mean a handful of people who stand up, shout and then are bodily removed by security is a riot? How old are you?

So a "handful of people" caused Chicago to cancel Trump's political rally? Your'e an idiot and a typical libtard trying to spew left-wing propaganda.

Donald Trump cancels Chicago rally after protesters, supporters clash

Yes, according to your very own link four people were arrested. That's smaller than a handful.
Given Chicago's problems with violence not related to Mr. Trump, it was probably a good call to cancel the rally.

Just because the left-wing city doesn't arrest everyone involved in violence against a Republican candidate doesn't mean that other people weren't involved. Are you really dumb enough to believe that FOUR people could get a multi-million dollar even cancelled?!?

 

[ScienceRocks]

The left has always been fascist in nature (obviously - since fascism is a form of government oppression). But in the past few years, the left has made a rapid march towards extreme fascism.

They engage in massive speech control campaigns. If Donald Trump attempts to hold a political rally - they riot (costing a fortune in damage to public and private property). If someone attempts to merely attend a Donald Trump political rally, the left engages in violent assaults. Fascism.

They engage in massive thought control campaigns. If someone wishes to avoid homosexual acts or homosexual celebrations (whether it be for religious reasons, comfort reasons, or just plain old hate), the left attempts to turn that into a crime and advocates for the government to place a gun to the head of those individuals and force them to take part in the homosexual activities. And of course - they've advocated for and manufactured the comical "hate crime" fallacy. Fascism.

This story here is a remarkable indication of the left's embrace of extreme fascism. It revolves around the "Soldiers of Odin". A group rightfully concerned with radical islam. And yet despite being peaceful while liberals engage in violent assaults, the left wants to label these individuals as a "hate" group. So what happened when this group deployed members to a mosque in Denver? Did they brutally attack and bloody muslims like liberals do? Nope. Quite the contrary - the imam of the mosque invited the group in to sit down and talk. They had a peaceful and cordial interaction?

This "incident" is literally the shining example of America at its finest. Concerned citizens form a group of their own free will. The muslims not only continue to engage in their right to religious freedom - but they invite the concerned group into their mosque to see for themselves and to engage in dialect. Everything America was built on and intended to be. And yet the left is angry about this - desperate to falsely label the group a "hate" group and to eliminate them.

A Growing Vigilante Group Is Targeting U.S. Mosques

Let's just start right here, Mr. P:

"They engage in massive speech control campaigns. If Donald Trump attempts to hold a political rally - they riot..."

Riot? You mean a handful of people who stand up, shout and then are bodily removed by security is a riot? How old are you?

""" (costing a fortune in damage to public and private property).""

Because these individuals are escorted outside the building?

"" If someone attempts to merely attend a Donald Trump political rally, the left engages in violent assaults. Fascism.""
fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun

1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

Mr. P, you are an idiot, sir. I won't even bother reading the rest of your drivel.

Here is a quick overview for you junior....

Conservatives believe in small government with limited power. Which means the more "radical" you go right, government continues to get smaller and less powerful (Sovereign Citizen) until you reach the most radical form of all - no government (ie Anarchist).

Liberals believe in large government controlling everything. Which means, the more "radical" you go left, government continues to get bigger and more powerful until you have fascism, totalitarianism, communism, etc.

What's the source, little man? Afraid to post that? Because it's probably from a right wing source.

The source is COMMON SENSE stupid. That was my post and everything stated is a fact.

You seriously can't comprehend the difference between right-wing and left-wing? Geez....

They can't even define "right wing" and "left wing."

The way it is becoming in America today?
Right ---> I hate government and lets rule over the people with Christianity.
Left-----> Lets help people, lets invest in our country and let people be people.

 

[owebo]

Lol,

Yep, releasing prisoners that are serving time for smoking pot = fascism
Allowing gays to marry is fascism
Allowing transgender people to come out and feel safe = fascism
Helping the poor is fascism.


The far right is mentally insane.

Says the fascist government employee......

 

[Juan de Fuca]

It is the conservatives that want to tell you what you can do in your bedroom,

Why do liberals insist on lying? It's liberals that insist the government climb into their bed with them. Conservatives say "keep government out of the gay relationship". It's liberals that are dragging government kicking and screaming into their bed with them.

Oh! Riiight! We'll forget about proposition 8 and the Supreme court challenges by religious right, we'll forget about sodomy laws, and all the other legal finagling done by the right. It isn't the left doing that stuff it's your church going neighbors who just happen to vote Republican.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The confusion about fascism is that most people think of Nazi Germany as the ultimate fascism. The Nazi's weren't really fascists. They were extreme nationalists and racists. But more than that they were led by a generation of WWI vets that suffered extreme PTSS. They were out for revenge.

True fascism is Mussolini fascism. Mussolini is the guy that coined the term fascism. He was for extreme suppression of the workers - an absolute dictatorship of the wealthy. He used nationalism as a tool to win the loyalty of the Italian WWI vets and turn them against the workers.

What a load of horseshit. Mussolini claimed he was a big supporter of the workers.

And you think workers shouldn't have regulations and rights? You live in the wrong century.

 

[P@triot]

Lol,

Yep, releasing prisoners that are serving time for smoking pot = fascism
Allowing gays to marry is fascism
Allowing transgender people to come out and feel safe = fascism
Helping the poor is fascism.
The far right is mentally insane.

Forcing people to call a man a woman = fascism

Forcing a bakery to be a part of a homosexual wedding = fascism

Forcing a farm to host a homosexual wedding = fascism

Forcing a 6-year old girl to shower or pee with a mentally disturbed, sexually deviant man = fascism

See a pattern, stupid? Any other questions, stupid?

 

[owebo]

The confusion about fascism is that most people think of Nazi Germany as the ultimate fascism. The Nazi's weren't really fascists. They were extreme nationalists and racists. But more than that they were led by a generation of WWI vets that suffered extreme PTSS. They were out for revenge.

True fascism is Mussolini fascism. Mussolini is the guy that coined the term fascism. He was for extreme suppression of the workers - an absolute dictatorship of the wealthy. He used nationalism as a tool to win the loyalty of the Italian WWI vets and turn them against the workers.

What a load of horseshit. Mussolini claimed he was a big supporter of the workers.

And you think workers shouldn't have regulations and rights? You live in the wrong century.

I love right to work states....why?

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Lol,

Yep, releasing prisoners that are serving time for smoking pot = fascism
Allowing gays to marry is fascism
Allowing transgender people to come out and feel safe = fascism
Helping the poor is fascism.
The far right is mentally insane.

Forcing people to call a man a woman = fascism

Forcing a bakery to be a part of a homosexual wedding = fascism

Forcing a farm to host a homosexual wedding = fascism

Forcing a 6-year old girl to shower or pee with a mentally disturbed, sexually deviant man = fascism

See a pattern, stupid? Any other questions, stupid?

Dum Dum, all of those conditions are set by the constitution and is why the courts reinforce them. Maybe you should go back to school and learn at bit.

 

[P@triot]

Allowing gays to marry is fascism

Yeah...it is stupid. Oh wait - I forgot you are the tool who never read the U.S. Constitution. Allow me to enlighten you chief:

10th Amendment:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Since marriage is not a power of the federal government, forcing the American people to accept gay marriage in all 50 states against their will is the very definition of fascism, stupid. Do you ever think before you post or do you enjoy looking really stupid?

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Here are 14 defining characteristics of fascism by Dr. Lawerence Britt ( Source:  Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism):


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause

4. Supremacy of the Military

5. Rampant Sexism

6. Controlled Mass Media

7. Obsession with National Security

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined

9. Corporate Power is Protected

10. Labor Power is Suppressed

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption

14. Fraudulent Elections

Now go compare this to the respective party platforms of each party and see which one resembles Fascism more.