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The Liberal Myth that the Rich Pay "Virtually No Taxes"
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Moonglow is allergic to facts. He gets really bad hives. Leave him alone
Are fed income taxes the only taxes out there ?? These threads always ignore the fact that there are a shit load of other taxes out there .
The real question is what is the real tax rate of the rich . Whenever some rich guy (usually a politician ) has to reveal his taxes it is always a lot lower than the posted rates because we have so many tax shelters.
So just to be clear, you think that if we bring in corporate and other investment taxes, that means the share the rich pay goes ... down ...?
Moonglow
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He never posted any facts in our discussion..I merely stated an opinion...I know I post facts. when will you?See what I mean....so you admit you're a liar, thanks.I will when you learn to control your tongue, until then sit and germinate...I never said they didn't. did I? do you know what the phrase 'very little' means? When did that mean nothing? I laugh at turds like you. You can't even define fair share. Any day, let us see your definition.
Moonglow is allergic to facts. He gets really bad hives. Leave him alone
Moonglow
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I never said the poor pay federal taxes, I said they pay sales taxes....no, you claimed the poor pay federal taxes, I asked you for which ones, and I got zip. you claimed a fact not an opinion.He never posted any facts in our discussion..I merely stated an opinion...I know I post facts. when will you?See what I mean....so you admit you're a liar, thanks.
Moonglow is allergic to facts. He gets really bad hives. Leave him alone
Moonglow
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Nope, never did say what you are implying...you should go reread what you wrote.I never said the poor pay federal taxes, I said they pay sales taxes....no, you claimed the poor pay federal taxes, I asked you for which ones, and I got zip. you claimed a fact not an opinion.He never posted any facts in our discussion..I merely stated an opinion...I know I post facts. when will you?
Moonglow is allergic to facts. He gets really bad hives. Leave him alone
jc456
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fair enough, I deleted the posts. do you think that the rich don't pay taxes? If you do think they pay taxes, do you know what is fair?I never said the poor pay federal taxes, I said they pay sales taxes....no, you claimed the poor pay federal taxes, I asked you for which ones, and I got zip. you claimed a fact not an opinion.He never posted any facts in our discussion..I merely stated an opinion...I know I post facts. when will you?See what I mean....
Moonglow is allergic to facts. He gets really bad hives. Leave him alone
Do the poor get free money to use as sales tax payments?
jc456
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I deleted that post BTW.Nope, never did say what you are implying...you should go reread what you wrote.I never said the poor pay federal taxes, I said they pay sales taxes....no, you claimed the poor pay federal taxes, I asked you for which ones, and I got zip. you claimed a fact not an opinion.He never posted any facts in our discussion..I merely stated an opinion...Moonglow is allergic to facts. He gets really bad hives. Leave him alone
WheelieAddict
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Can someone get the right wing corporatist apologist for the rich a dictionary and then explain to them proportionality and fairness
You may want to Google "proportionality" since you don't know what it means.
The top 1% earn 20% of the income and pay 40% of the taxes.
Also, "corporatist" is a word you may want to learn more about. Hillary became a hundred millionaire selling speeches to Wall Street and corporate America. One thing you can sure the fuck bank on is they didn't pay her to hear what she thinks ...
The top .01% are who we should be talking about actually. What about them, I'd imagine their income percentage is more than their tax percentage, seeing that is capped at 38% Why is there a cap, shouldn't it continue scaling to make it fair for everyone.?
Can someone get the right wing corporatist apologist for the rich a dictionary and then explain to them proportionality and fairness
You may want to Google "proportionality" since you don't know what it means.
The top 1% earn 20% of the income and pay 40% of the taxes.
Also, "corporatist" is a word you may want to learn more about. Hillary became a hundred millionaire selling speeches to Wall Street and corporate America. One thing you can sure the fuck bank on is they didn't pay her to hear what she thinks ...
The top .01% are who we should be talking about actually. What about them, I'd imagine their income percentage is more than their tax percentage, seeing that is capped at 38% Why is there a cap, shouldn't it continue scaling to make it fair for everyone.?
Wrong. Their tax rate drops slightly from the top 1 percent, but considering their income is higher the taxes they pay are even higher per person.
As for their fair share, comrade, that's ridiculous, it's not "fair" for any American to be treated differently than other Americans. That's exactly why this country is pulling apart at the seams, government takes the lead on discrimination
Moonglow
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O.. No problamo...I deleted that post BTW.Nope, never did say what you are implying...you should go reread what you wrote.I never said the poor pay federal taxes, I said they pay sales taxes....no, you claimed the poor pay federal taxes, I asked you for which ones, and I got zip. you claimed a fact not an opinion.He never posted any facts in our discussion..I merely stated an opinion...
Skull Pilot
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Excuses excuses. Then release your taxes donny.What do you say now? Now we know TRUMP doesn't pay taxes.If the rich pay "virtually nothing" in taxes, as liberals continue to claim, how is it that they pay the majority of federal personal income taxes? According to federal income tax data, the top 1% pay about 45% of all federal income taxes. The top 10% pay at least 60% of all federal income taxes. And the top 20% pay over 80% of all federal income taxes.
Top 1% pay nearly half of federal income taxes
Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 68 Percent of Federal Income Taxes
Top 20% of Earners Pay 84% of Income Tax
STEPHEN MOORE: Do the rich pay their fair share of taxes?
Do the rich pay lower taxes than the middle class?
The Rich Pay More than Their Fair Share of Taxes | Economics21
What's more, the top 1% pay around 24% of all federal taxes (income taxes, corporate taxes, tariffs, etc.). The top 10% pay over 50% of all federal taxes.
1 Percenters Pay 24 Percent and Top 10 Percent Pay 53.3 Percent of All Federal Taxes
And this is on top of the huge amount of county and state taxes that the rich pay, especially rich people who own businesses. I have two relatives who own businesses, and I can't believe how much they get soaked in county and state taxes, especially property taxes.
Liberals who go around peddling the kool-aid myth that "the rich pay virtually no taxes" or that "the average rich person pays less than a middle-income earner" obviously don't know any rich people and/or any business owners and are basing these silly claims on grossly misleading "studies" churned out by liberal think tanks and economists.
Watch Donald Trump lecture the working poor for not paying taxes
we actually don't know that.
40 years ago he wrote off enough to make his income negative and that loss of 900 whatever million was obtained from just a couple of pages stolen from a tax return that was most likely hundreds of pages long
He doesn't have to
But go figure you'd have your panties in a twist over someone not doing something they have no legal obligation to do but you don't give a shit if some democrat STOLE personal documents
NYcarbineer
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If the rich pay "virtually nothing" in taxes, as liberals continue to claim, how is it that they pay the majority of federal personal income taxes? According to federal income tax data, the top 1% pay about 45% of all federal income taxes. The top 10% pay at least 60% of all federal income taxes. And the top 20% pay over 80% of all federal income taxes.
Top 1% pay nearly half of federal income taxes
Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 68 Percent of Federal Income Taxes
Top 20% of Earners Pay 84% of Income Tax
STEPHEN MOORE: Do the rich pay their fair share of taxes?
Do the rich pay lower taxes than the middle class?
The Rich Pay More than Their Fair Share of Taxes | Economics21
What's more, the top 1% pay around 24% of all federal taxes (income taxes, corporate taxes, tariffs, etc.). The top 10% pay over 50% of all federal taxes.
1 Percenters Pay 24 Percent and Top 10 Percent Pay 53.3 Percent of All Federal Taxes
And this is on top of the huge amount of county and state taxes that the rich pay, especially rich people who own businesses. I have two relatives who own businesses, and I can't believe how much they get soaked in county and state taxes, especially property taxes.
Liberals who go around peddling the kool-aid myth that "the rich pay virtually no taxes" or that "the average rich person pays less than a middle-income earner" obviously don't know any rich people and/or any business owners and are basing these silly claims on grossly misleading "studies" churned out by liberal think tanks and economists.
So your point is that Trump is the exception to the rule?
WheelieAddict
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Can someone get the right wing corporatist apologist for the rich a dictionary and then explain to them proportionality and fairness
You may want to Google "proportionality" since you don't know what it means.
The top 1% earn 20% of the income and pay 40% of the taxes.
Also, "corporatist" is a word you may want to learn more about. Hillary became a hundred millionaire selling speeches to Wall Street and corporate America. One thing you can sure the fuck bank on is they didn't pay her to hear what she thinks ...
The top .01% are who we should be talking about actually. What about them, I'd imagine their income percentage is more than their tax percentage, seeing that is capped at 38% Why is there a cap, shouldn't it continue scaling to make it fair for everyone.?
Wrong. Their tax rate drops slightly from the top 1 percent, but considering their income is higher the taxes they pay are even higher per person.
As for their fair share, comrade, that's ridiculous, it's not "fair" for any American to be treated differently than other Americans. That's exactly why this country is pulling apart at the seams, government takes the lead on discrimination
You are going to need to explain how if the top tax rate is capped they pay more.
Moonglow
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I am sure the term "****** rich" is not foreign to you when used about tax refunds and the poor..fair enough, I deleted the posts. do you think that the rich don't pay taxes? If you do think they pay taxes, do you know what is fair?I never said the poor pay federal taxes, I said they pay sales taxes....no, you claimed the poor pay federal taxes, I asked you for which ones, and I got zip. you claimed a fact not an opinion.He never posted any facts in our discussion..I merely stated an opinion...I know I post facts. when will you?
Moonglow is allergic to facts. He gets really bad hives. Leave him alone
Do the poor get free money to use as sales tax payments?
Fair share? Hell, zero is my favorite number, but I know them boys in uniform can't live on medals...I think 10% is plenty....
Can someone get the right wing corporatist apologist for the rich a dictionary and then explain to them proportionality and fairness
You may want to Google "proportionality" since you don't know what it means.
The top 1% earn 20% of the income and pay 40% of the taxes.
Also, "corporatist" is a word you may want to learn more about. Hillary became a hundred millionaire selling speeches to Wall Street and corporate America. One thing you can sure the fuck bank on is they didn't pay her to hear what she thinks ...
The top .01% are who we should be talking about actually. What about them, I'd imagine their income percentage is more than their tax percentage, seeing that is capped at 38% Why is there a cap, shouldn't it continue scaling to make it fair for everyone.?
Wrong. Their tax rate drops slightly from the top 1 percent, but considering their income is higher the taxes they pay are even higher per person.
As for their fair share, comrade, that's ridiculous, it's not "fair" for any American to be treated differently than other Americans. That's exactly why this country is pulling apart at the seams, government takes the lead on discrimination
You are going to need to explain how if the top tax rate is capped they pay more.
They earn more
Excuses excuses. Then release your taxes donny.What do you say now? Now we know TRUMP doesn't pay taxes.If the rich pay "virtually nothing" in taxes, as liberals continue to claim, how is it that they pay the majority of federal personal income taxes? According to federal income tax data, the top 1% pay about 45% of all federal income taxes. The top 10% pay at least 60% of all federal income taxes. And the top 20% pay over 80% of all federal income taxes.
Top 1% pay nearly half of federal income taxes
Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 68 Percent of Federal Income Taxes
Top 20% of Earners Pay 84% of Income Tax
STEPHEN MOORE: Do the rich pay their fair share of taxes?
Do the rich pay lower taxes than the middle class?
The Rich Pay More than Their Fair Share of Taxes | Economics21
What's more, the top 1% pay around 24% of all federal taxes (income taxes, corporate taxes, tariffs, etc.). The top 10% pay over 50% of all federal taxes.
1 Percenters Pay 24 Percent and Top 10 Percent Pay 53.3 Percent of All Federal Taxes
And this is on top of the huge amount of county and state taxes that the rich pay, especially rich people who own businesses. I have two relatives who own businesses, and I can't believe how much they get soaked in county and state taxes, especially property taxes.
Liberals who go around peddling the kool-aid myth that "the rich pay virtually no taxes" or that "the average rich person pays less than a middle-income earner" obviously don't know any rich people and/or any business owners and are basing these silly claims on grossly misleading "studies" churned out by liberal think tanks and economists.
Watch Donald Trump lecture the working poor for not paying taxes
we actually don't know that.
40 years ago he wrote off enough to make his income negative and that loss of 900 whatever million was obtained from just a couple of pages stolen from a tax return that was most likely hundreds of pages long
He doesn't have to
But go figure you'd have your panties in a twist over someone not doing something they have no legal obligation to do but you don't give a shit if some democrat STOLE personal documents
See, Trump is such a bad candidate you forget all the stupid shit he has said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?_r=0
They will make movies about how crazy 2016 was.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?_r=0
WheelieAddict
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And they pay less because the top tax rate is capped.Can someone get the right wing corporatist apologist for the rich a dictionary and then explain to them proportionality and fairness
You may want to Google "proportionality" since you don't know what it means.
The top 1% earn 20% of the income and pay 40% of the taxes.
Also, "corporatist" is a word you may want to learn more about. Hillary became a hundred millionaire selling speeches to Wall Street and corporate America. One thing you can sure the fuck bank on is they didn't pay her to hear what she thinks ...
The top .01% are who we should be talking about actually. What about them, I'd imagine their income percentage is more than their tax percentage, seeing that is capped at 38% Why is there a cap, shouldn't it continue scaling to make it fair for everyone.?
Wrong. Their tax rate drops slightly from the top 1 percent, but considering their income is higher the taxes they pay are even higher per person.
As for their fair share, comrade, that's ridiculous, it's not "fair" for any American to be treated differently than other Americans. That's exactly why this country is pulling apart at the seams, government takes the lead on discrimination
You are going to need to explain how if the top tax rate is capped they pay more.
They earn more
WheelieAddict
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Can someone get the right wing corporatist apologist for the rich a dictionary and then explain to them proportionality and fairness
You may want to Google "proportionality" since you don't know what it means.
The top 1% earn 20% of the income and pay 40% of the taxes.
Also, "corporatist" is a word you may want to learn more about. Hillary became a hundred millionaire selling speeches to Wall Street and corporate America. One thing you can sure the fuck bank on is they didn't pay her to hear what she thinks ...
The top .01% are who we should be talking about actually. What about them, I'd imagine their income percentage is more than their tax percentage, seeing that is capped at 38% Why is there a cap, shouldn't it continue scaling to make it fair for everyone.?
Wrong. Their tax rate drops slightly from the top 1 percent, but considering their income is higher the taxes they pay are even higher per person.
As for their fair share, comrade, that's ridiculous, it's not "fair" for any American to be treated differently than other Americans. That's exactly why this country is pulling apart at the seams, government takes the lead on discrimination
You are going to need to explain how if the top tax rate is capped they pay more.
They earn more
Kaz you were saying?And they pay less because the top tax rate is capped.You may want to Google "proportionality" since you don't know what it means.
The top 1% earn 20% of the income and pay 40% of the taxes.
Also, "corporatist" is a word you may want to learn more about. Hillary became a hundred millionaire selling speeches to Wall Street and corporate America. One thing you can sure the fuck bank on is they didn't pay her to hear what she thinks ...
The top .01% are who we should be talking about actually. What about them, I'd imagine their income percentage is more than their tax percentage, seeing that is capped at 38% Why is there a cap, shouldn't it continue scaling to make it fair for everyone.?
Wrong. Their tax rate drops slightly from the top 1 percent, but considering their income is higher the taxes they pay are even higher per person.
As for their fair share, comrade, that's ridiculous, it's not "fair" for any American to be treated differently than other Americans. That's exactly why this country is pulling apart at the seams, government takes the lead on discrimination
You are going to need to explain how if the top tax rate is capped they pay more.
They earn more
Skull Pilot
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- Nov 17, 2007
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Excuses excuses. Then release your taxes donny.What do you say now? Now we know TRUMP doesn't pay taxes.If the rich pay "virtually nothing" in taxes, as liberals continue to claim, how is it that they pay the majority of federal personal income taxes? According to federal income tax data, the top 1% pay about 45% of all federal income taxes. The top 10% pay at least 60% of all federal income taxes. And the top 20% pay over 80% of all federal income taxes.
Top 1% pay nearly half of federal income taxes
Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 68 Percent of Federal Income Taxes
Top 20% of Earners Pay 84% of Income Tax
STEPHEN MOORE: Do the rich pay their fair share of taxes?
Do the rich pay lower taxes than the middle class?
The Rich Pay More than Their Fair Share of Taxes | Economics21
What's more, the top 1% pay around 24% of all federal taxes (income taxes, corporate taxes, tariffs, etc.). The top 10% pay over 50% of all federal taxes.
1 Percenters Pay 24 Percent and Top 10 Percent Pay 53.3 Percent of All Federal Taxes
And this is on top of the huge amount of county and state taxes that the rich pay, especially rich people who own businesses. I have two relatives who own businesses, and I can't believe how much they get soaked in county and state taxes, especially property taxes.
Liberals who go around peddling the kool-aid myth that "the rich pay virtually no taxes" or that "the average rich person pays less than a middle-income earner" obviously don't know any rich people and/or any business owners and are basing these silly claims on grossly misleading "studies" churned out by liberal think tanks and economists.
Watch Donald Trump lecture the working poor for not paying taxes
we actually don't know that.
40 years ago he wrote off enough to make his income negative and that loss of 900 whatever million was obtained from just a couple of pages stolen from a tax return that was most likely hundreds of pages long
He doesn't have to
But go figure you'd have your panties in a twist over someone not doing something they have no legal obligation to do but you don't give a shit if some democrat STOLE personal documents
See, Trump is such a bad candidate you forget all the stupid shit he has said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?_r=0
They will make movies about how crazy 2016 was.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?_r=0
Ah yes changing the subject
None of that has anything to do with his tax returns, the write off of a loss or the fact that some democrat stole some pages from his personal records
And let's not forget that you are not saying anything about Shillary writing off over 700K in losses on her 2012 returns
And just to remind you I have told you many times I am not voting for Trump (Or Shillary) I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy of you people
WheelieAddict
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Kaz is easily one of the most dishonest ladies I have ever conversed with online.
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