The Myth of Voter ‘Fraud’ – More Ignorance and Lies From Trump

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ID is required to register. ID requires proof of citizenship, dope.
I gave you the link confirming that.
That's why voter registration is usually done at the time of obtaining a DL because eligibilty is already confirmed through the DL process.

You have not shown that proof is not required
:rolleyes: You gave us NOTHING showing proof of citizenship being required for voting. The only thing you're giving us, is an open admission of 2 things. Your dishonesty. And your stupidity.

And 2 links were presented here showing proof of citizenship not required >>

Post # 148 >> Judge rules Kansas can't require proof of U.S. citizenship to vote

and: # 159 >> Supreme Court denies states’ request for proof of voter citizenship
 
Liar.

What state do you live in?
Show one state that requires PROOF of citizenship for voting. Go ahead.

I live in Florida. What does that matter ? No state requires PROOF of citizenship for voting.

And if you can call me a liar (when I'm telling the truth), I can call you >> IDIOT.
So you’re a retard as well as a liar.

Florida law requires a valid Florida driver’s license or Florida ID or valid social security number in order to register to vote, none of which can be legally obtained by an illegal alien.

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

97.053 Acceptance of voter registration applications.

(6) A voter registration application may be accepted as valid only after the department has verified the authenticity or nonexistence of the driver license number, the Florida identification card number, or the last four digits of the social security number provided by the applicant. If a completed voter registration application has been received by the book-closing deadline but the driver license number, the Florida identification card number, or the last four digits of the social security number provided by the applicant cannot be verified, the applicant shall be notified that the number cannot be verified and that the applicant must provide evidence to the supervisor sufficient to verify the authenticity of the applicant’s driver license number, Florida identification card number, or last four digits of the social security number. If the applicant provides the necessary evidence, the supervisor shall place the applicant’s name on the registration rolls as an active voter. If the applicant has not provided the necessary evidence or the number has not otherwise been verified prior to the applicant presenting himself or herself to vote, the applicant shall be provided a provisional ballot. The provisional ballot shall be counted only if the number is verified by the end of the canvassing period or if the applicant presents evidence to the supervisor of elections sufficient to verify the authenticity of the applicant’s driver license number, Florida identification card number, or last four digits of the social security number no later than 5 p.m. of the second day following the election.​
 
If they do they are labelled as non-citizen.
Proof of identity is required to get a DL or State ID. Including citizenship and SSN.

State of Ohio BMV
We're talking about VOTING. Proof of citizenship is not required. In Ohio, or any other state.


Required to register in Florida. Your own state.

Florida Online Voter Registration Website -Online Voter Registration

To submit an online application, you will need:


  • Your Florida driver license (Florida DL) or Florida identification card (Florida ID card) issued by the Florida Department of Highway Safety & Motor Vehicles.
To protect your identity, you will also need:


  • The issued date of your Florida DL or Florida ID card; and
  • The last four digits of your Social Security Number (SSN4).
Required documentation for Florida DL or ID.

Florida Drivers License Identification Requirements

US Citizens
Florida law requires identification, proof of date of birth, proof of residential address, and proof of social security number (if issued, Chapter 322, Florida Statutes, requires the Department of Motor Vehicles see proof of social security number for the issuance of driver license and identification cards) from all customers before a driver license or identification card can be issued.

The name assigned to the social security number must match the name that will appear on the Florida driver license or identification card. If you have recently changed your name, update your records with the Social Security Administration before you apply for your license or identification card.

All U.S. citizens renewing or applying for a New Driver License or Identification Card in person after January 1, 2010 must submit:

1. Primary Identification
An Original or Certified Primary Identification Document may be one of the following:

  • Certified United States Birth Certificate, including territories and District of Columbia
  • Valid United States Passport or Passport Card
  • Consular Report of Birth Abroad
  • Certificate of Naturalization, Form N-550 or Form N-570
  • Certificate of Citizenship, Form N-560 or Form N-561
 
ID is required to register. ID requires proof of citizenship, dope.
I gave you the link confirming that.
That's why voter registration is usually done at the time of obtaining a DL because eligibilty is already confirmed through the DL process.

You have not shown that proof is not required
:rolleyes: You gave us NOTHING showing proof of citizenship being required for voting. The only thing you're giving us, is an open admission of 2 things. Your dishonesty. And your stupidity.

And 2 links were presented here showing proof of citizenship not required >>

Post # 148 >> Judge rules Kansas can't require proof of U.S. citizenship to vote

and: # 159 >> Supreme Court denies states’ request for proof of voter citizenship

See above post.

Apparently you don't even understand what your own state requires.
 
So you’re a retard as well as a liar.

Florida law requires a valid Florida driver’s license or Florida ID or valid social security number in order to register to vote, none of which can be legally obtained by an illegal alien.

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

97.053 Acceptance of voter registration applications.

(6) A voter registration application may be accepted as valid only after the department has verified the authenticity or nonexistence of the driver license number, the Florida identification card number, or the last four digits of the social security number provided by the applicant. If a completed voter registration application has been received by the book-closing deadline but the driver license number, the Florida identification card number, or the last four digits of the social security number provided by the applicant cannot be verified, the applicant shall be notified that the number cannot be verified and that the applicant must provide evidence to the supervisor sufficient to verify the authenticity of the applicant’s driver license number, Florida identification card number, or last four digits of the social security number. If the applicant provides the necessary evidence, the supervisor shall place the applicant’s name on the registration rolls as an active voter. If the applicant has not provided the necessary evidence or the number has not otherwise been verified prior to the applicant presenting himself or herself to vote, the applicant shall be provided a provisional ballot. The provisional ballot shall be counted only if the number is verified by the end of the canvassing period or if the applicant presents evidence to the supervisor of elections sufficient to verify the authenticity of the applicant’s driver license number, Florida identification card number, or last four digits of the social security number no later than 5 p.m. of the second day following the election.​
Are you really that ignorant that you think that illegal aliens don't have social security cards and drivers licenses ? They were selling County ID cards and state drivers licenses in the local flea market around here just recently, for $15 each.

Also, Democrat election officials will take anybody with checking for proof. I've watched them.(in 4 states)

And if what you said were truly happening that way, all the lllegal voting that authorities have caught and prosecuted, could have happened to begin with. But they did. Are your reading the thread. Are you reading the links ?

That's enough - I'm watching football now; halftime is over.
 
Screw you, ID to vote helps insure election integrity, that's reason enough to have it and SCOTUS says it's constitutional. Now if we could just require proof of citizenship to register to vote, we'd be much better off.

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Most states already require ID to vote.

Next whine...?

The problem here is, should you need ID to have something protected by the Constitution? Really ID could be made prevalent where everyone gets it, most countries have this.

Problem is some people think this is the next step towards a government database of people to be used for bad purposes. And that it's the right demanding this, often makes people worry.
Same way you need to register to purchase a firearm, which is also a constitutionally protected right. The problem for the brain-dead right is that we already have such requirements for voting at the state level and they can’t find adequate proof that illegal voting is anywhere near as rampant as they claim to warrant such an outrageous stunt as a federal voter ID.

Shit, even Republicans are against it as they could have submitted such legislation at anytime during the 6½ years while the controlled both chambers of Congress and the Executive branch in recent times — and they chose not to.


What commie state do you live in, I don't have to register shit to buy a firearm. I just go to the store and get it.

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I didn’t say my state does. But some states do.


Same way you need to register to purchase a firearm, which is also a constitutionally protected right.
Not what you said, but spin on. LMAO

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I gave links, liar.
Your links didn't show PROOF of citizenship being required. 3rd time I'm telling you this. And my links DID show it NOT being required. How long are you going to go on being a punching bag in this thread ? (and a fool)

I just gave you what your own state requires, dope.

No one can register to vote in the state of Florida without a valid state issued DL or ID.

Both require that citizenship is verified at the time of issue.

Citizenship has then already been verified. There's no need for that to be done again when registering to vote.
 
They only won 16. Republicans won 20. Not getting enough sleep ?

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Strange how it's the white fart supremist states
 
LOLOL
What a dumbfucking conservative you are. I got only as far as your first link to see how senile you are...

Three million votes in the U.S. presidential election were cast by illegal aliens, according to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization.

What did voterfraud.org say about Greg Phillips...? They never heard of him before...


See what happens when you rely on InfoWars as a source? They expose you as the raging imbecile you are.
I see what happens when you foolishly cherry pick one link out of 9, and expect to have anyone believe that you refuted them all. This is too stupid to even deserve rebuttal. If they want to "Read More", they should read all 9 of my Post 3 links
I tried to read the first three
Info wars
Conservative review
Washington times
One of the others had "very little reliable data"
It always amuses me how our old white fart socialist benefits sucking lads have admitted cheaters as their moniker.
Eisenhower, john Wayne, another deferment guy
You have to have no life to sort through the reams of right wing garbage.
Problem is, our benefits boys, time is all they have
That senile old fool doesn’t even bother to check what he posts. He merely Googles for events he wants to believe are true and then blindly posts links to the hits he gets. Then shakes his cane at those of us who won’t waste our time with such nonsense.

And omg has a cheater as his moniker
 
All of them, Supremes say they can't. The VRA just says you only need say you're a citizen when you register, you don't have to prove it.

Judge rules Kansas can't require proof of U.S. citizenship to vote

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Bullshit.

Proof of identity is required to register.
What proof is shown when getting an ID or DL?

I need to prove my identity when getting a driver's license. A birth certificate with raised seal or naturalization papers are required.

So my citizenship was already confirmed if I have a state issued ID.


So does your State issue drivers licenses or IDs to non-citizens? I bet they do.

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If they do they are labelled as non-citizen.
Proof of identity is required to get a DL or State ID. Including citizenship and SSN.

State of Ohio BMV


Now, now, no need to lie about it. Show me from an official State site that non-citizen drivers licenses are any different form a citizens drivers license. Come on little dudett, it's time to put up or shut up.

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Read my link, dope.
Proof of citizenship and an SSN are required to obtain a valid DL or state ID.

Obviously if they issue to undocumented people it would be a different ID.


Child, stop making assumptions, show me on a State site where non-citizen DLs and IDs are different from citizens. BTW there are people who are documented that aren't citizens.

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Liar.

What state do you live in?
Show one state that requires PROOF of citizenship for voting. Go ahead.

I live in Florida. What does that matter ? No state requires PROOF of citizenship for voting.

And if you can call me a liar (when I'm telling the truth), I can call you >> IDIOT.
So you’re a retard as well as a liar.

Florida law requires a valid Florida driver’s license or Florida ID or valid social security number in order to register to vote, none of which can be legally obtained by an illegal alien.

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

97.053 Acceptance of voter registration applications.

(6) A voter registration application may be accepted as valid only after the department has verified the authenticity or nonexistence of the driver license number, the Florida identification card number, or the last four digits of the social security number provided by the applicant. If a completed voter registration application has been received by the book-closing deadline but the driver license number, the Florida identification card number, or the last four digits of the social security number provided by the applicant cannot be verified, the applicant shall be notified that the number cannot be verified and that the applicant must provide evidence to the supervisor sufficient to verify the authenticity of the applicant’s driver license number, Florida identification card number, or last four digits of the social security number. If the applicant provides the necessary evidence, the supervisor shall place the applicant’s name on the registration rolls as an active voter. If the applicant has not provided the necessary evidence or the number has not otherwise been verified prior to the applicant presenting himself or herself to vote, the applicant shall be provided a provisional ballot. The provisional ballot shall be counted only if the number is verified by the end of the canvassing period or if the applicant presents evidence to the supervisor of elections sufficient to verify the authenticity of the applicant’s driver license number, Florida identification card number, or last four digits of the social security number no later than 5 p.m. of the second day following the election.​


But can they be obtained by a permanent resident?

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Bullshit.

Proof of identity is required to register.
What proof is shown when getting an ID or DL?

I need to prove my identity when getting a driver's license. A birth certificate with raised seal or naturalization papers are required.

So my citizenship was already confirmed if I have a state issued ID.


So does your State issue drivers licenses or IDs to non-citizens? I bet they do.

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If they do they are labelled as non-citizen.
Proof of identity is required to get a DL or State ID. Including citizenship and SSN.

State of Ohio BMV


Now, now, no need to lie about it. Show me from an official State site that non-citizen drivers licenses are any different form a citizens drivers license. Come on little dudett, it's time to put up or shut up.

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Read my link, dope.
Proof of citizenship and an SSN are required to obtain a valid DL or state ID.

Obviously if they issue to undocumented people it would be a different ID.


Child, stop making assumptions, show me on a State site where non-citizen DLs and IDs are different from citizens. BTW there are people who are documented that aren't citizens.

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There is no assumption, dope.

I've posted what is required to obtain a valid DL or state ID for citizens in two different states.

Obviously, any DL or ID for non-citizens would be different as the requirements for documentation are different.

Why don't you show us that they're the same
and prove your claim.
 
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Voter Identification Laws in Effect in 2018

Didn't quite copy/paste right.

Gray - No document required to vote

Light green - ID requested; photo not required

Medium green - Photo ID requested

Dark green - Strict Non-Photo ID

Black - Strict Photo ID
 
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Notice on the map, 43 states don't even require a photo ID. And none require a citizenship ID.

16 states (in gray) require NO ID AT ALL. (and 4 territories)
 
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