The NEWER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

[RoccoR]

RE: The NEWER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Now that is an interesting question.

While the question is a bit exaggerated (by a factor of ten or more • there will not be any humans related to our genus in a billion years) but I grasp the intent of the question. So I will answer as if there are no threats from Major Extinction Events (MEEs).

Mass extinction by meteor may be how the world ends. - qz.com
The statistical likelihood that asteroids will destroy us all in 10 million yearsextinction-by-meteor-may-be-how-the-world-ends
Jun 23, 2017 · Scientists have spent decades debating whether asteroids and comets hit the Earth at regular intervals. At the same time, a few studies have found evidence that the large extinction events on Earth – such as the one that wiped out the dinosaurs 66 million years ago – repeat themselves every 26 million to 30 million years.
Author: Sanna Alwmark
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I was just wondering what Haiti would be like with billions every year.

(COMMENT)

Haiti (10 Million People) Given the health conditions in Haiti and limited population:

Life expectancy at birth: This entry contains the average number of years to be lived by a group of people born in the same year, if mortality at each age remains constant in the future. Life expectancy at birth is also a measure of overall quality of life in a country and summarizes the mortality at all ages. It can also be thought of as indicating the potential return on investment in human capital and is necessary for the calculation of various actuarial measures.

Total Population: 64.6 years

• Male: 61.9 years
• Female: 67.2 years (2018 est.)
• Country Comparison to the world: 186

There is about 1 Doctor for every 4000 people [0.23 physicians/1,000 population 2018. Between the Hurricanes and Earthquakes, the Haitians have it bad enough; but then the Health and Sanitation conditions are even a bigger threat.

Health | Haiti | U.S. Agency for International Development
https://www.usaid.gov/haiti/global-health

Aug 16, 2018 · Haiti reports some of the world’s worst health indicators, which continue to inhibit the country’s development. While Haiti has struggled with poor health outcomes for generations, the health system was further debilitated by the 2010 earthquake, which demolished 50 health centers, part of Haiti’s primary teaching hospital, and the Ministry of Health.​

There is no telling what Haiti will look like in a 100 years. All it coulkdtake for a near population annihilation is one fast cholera event. Currently the condition is small scale epidemics. [Cholera Death Toll Tops 500 in Haiti (July 21,2019)] It may be contained today, but that does not mean it is not a reoccuring threat.

It is not a place that you want to visit of invest in.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: The NEWER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Now that is an interesting question.

While the question is a bit exaggerated (by a factor of ten or more • there will not be any humans related to our genus in a billion years) but I grasp the intent of the question. So I will answer as if there are no threats from Major Extinction Events (MEEs).

Mass extinction by meteor may be how the world ends. - qz.com
The statistical likelihood that asteroids will destroy us all in 10 million yearsextinction-by-meteor-may-be-how-the-world-ends
Jun 23, 2017 · Scientists have spent decades debating whether asteroids and comets hit the Earth at regular intervals. At the same time, a few studies have found evidence that the large extinction events on Earth – such as the one that wiped out the dinosaurs 66 million years ago – repeat themselves every 26 million to 30 million years.
Author: Sanna Alwmark
​

I was just wondering what Haiti would be like with billions every year.

(COMMENT)

Haiti (10 Million People) Given the health conditions in Haiti and limited population:

Life expectancy at birth: This entry contains the average number of years to be lived by a group of people born in the same year, if mortality at each age remains constant in the future. Life expectancy at birth is also a measure of overall quality of life in a country and summarizes the mortality at all ages. It can also be thought of as indicating the potential return on investment in human capital and is necessary for the calculation of various actuarial measures.

Total Population: 64.6 years

• Male: 61.9 years
• Female: 67.2 years (2018 est.)
• Country Comparison to the world: 186

There is about 1 Doctor for every 4000 people [0.23 physicians/1,000 population 2018. Between the Hurricanes and Earthquakes, the Haitians have it bad enough; but then the Health and Sanitation conditions are even a bigger threat.

Health | Haiti | U.S. Agency for International Development
https://www.usaid.gov/haiti/global-health

Aug 16, 2018 · Haiti reports some of the world’s worst health indicators, which continue to inhibit the country’s development. While Haiti has struggled with poor health outcomes for generations, the health system was further debilitated by the 2010 earthquake, which demolished 50 health centers, part of Haiti’s primary teaching hospital, and the Ministry of Health.​

There is no telling what Haiti will look like in a 100 years. All it coulkdtake for a near population annihilation is one fast cholera event. Currently the condition is small scale epidemics. [Cholera Death Toll Tops 500 in Haiti (July 21,2019)] It may be contained today, but that does not mean it is not a reoccuring threat.

It is not a place that you want to visit of invest in.

Most Respectfully,
R

That is under the condition of poverty.

 

[Hollie]

RE: The NEWER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Now that is an interesting question.

While the question is a bit exaggerated (by a factor of ten or more • there will not be any humans related to our genus in a billion years) but I grasp the intent of the question. So I will answer as if there are no threats from Major Extinction Events (MEEs).

Mass extinction by meteor may be how the world ends. - qz.com
The statistical likelihood that asteroids will destroy us all in 10 million yearsextinction-by-meteor-may-be-how-the-world-ends
Jun 23, 2017 · Scientists have spent decades debating whether asteroids and comets hit the Earth at regular intervals. At the same time, a few studies have found evidence that the large extinction events on Earth – such as the one that wiped out the dinosaurs 66 million years ago – repeat themselves every 26 million to 30 million years.
Author: Sanna Alwmark
​

I was just wondering what Haiti would be like with billions every year.

(COMMENT)

Haiti (10 Million People) Given the health conditions in Haiti and limited population:

Life expectancy at birth: This entry contains the average number of years to be lived by a group of people born in the same year, if mortality at each age remains constant in the future. Life expectancy at birth is also a measure of overall quality of life in a country and summarizes the mortality at all ages. It can also be thought of as indicating the potential return on investment in human capital and is necessary for the calculation of various actuarial measures.

Total Population: 64.6 years

• Male: 61.9 years
• Female: 67.2 years (2018 est.)
• Country Comparison to the world: 186

There is about 1 Doctor for every 4000 people [0.23 physicians/1,000 population 2018. Between the Hurricanes and Earthquakes, the Haitians have it bad enough; but then the Health and Sanitation conditions are even a bigger threat.

Health | Haiti | U.S. Agency for International Development
https://www.usaid.gov/haiti/global-health

Aug 16, 2018 · Haiti reports some of the world’s worst health indicators, which continue to inhibit the country’s development. While Haiti has struggled with poor health outcomes for generations, the health system was further debilitated by the 2010 earthquake, which demolished 50 health centers, part of Haiti’s primary teaching hospital, and the Ministry of Health.​

There is no telling what Haiti will look like in a 100 years. All it coulkdtake for a near population annihilation is one fast cholera event. Currently the condition is small scale epidemics. [Cholera Death Toll Tops 500 in Haiti (July 21,2019)] It may be contained today, but that does not mean it is not a reoccuring threat.

It is not a place that you want to visit of invest in.

Most Respectfully,
R

That is under the condition of poverty.

What poverty? Hamas is the second richest Islamic terrorist franchise.

 

[Sixties Fan]

In the The Jewish Times, March 26, 1909 Young Turk Dr. Riza Tewfik called himself a Zionist and said, "Palestine belongs to the Jews more than to us Musselmen (Muslims), we came to rule over this land many centuries after you had possessed it."




A Muslim Zionist in 1909 ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

Palestinians can't erase the Hebrew on their "historic coins" ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

How the Publisher of the “Guardian” Helped Bring About the Balfour Declaration

 

[Sixties Fan]

Remembering the 1929 Hebron Massacre

 

[Sixties Fan]

'We realized that we couldn't trust the British anymore'

 

[Sixties Fan]

Irtah was a small village south of Tulkarem. Jews never lived there. The British never kicked Arabs out of their houses to make way for Jews. If Ahmad and Amni Fakhoury lived there before World War II, they could have stayed after WWII and after 1948 when Jordan annexed it.

They would have become Jordanian citizens. There was no reason for "Palestinian schools" to have been shut down from Israeli or British actions/

It is possible that her family's land was turned into a no-man's zone in 1948, as Irtah is very close to the 1949 armistice lines. It is more likely that with the influx of refugees, resources became harder to come by and her family decided to move elsewhere in the Arab world voluntarily, as Arabs have for centuries.

Or Banks' family has been lying to her about why they left Palestine/Jordan.

Tulkarem grew and now contains Irtah as a neighborhood.

Palestinians were not "killed or imprisoned" for resisting losing their homes on either side of the Green Line.

This story is nothing less than an attempt to inject anti-Israel hate in an otherwise harmless article about meditation.

(full article online)

Palestinians add anti-Israel messages even in Buddhist publications ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

https://www.israelhayom.com/2019/08/07/jews-and-arabs-together-against-the-nazis/

 

[Sixties Fan]

Today is Sunday, Av 17, 5779 · August 18, 2019
Today in Jewish History
• Hebron Massacre (1929)

Sixty-seven Jewish men, women and children were slaughtered, and scores wounded, raped and maimed, by their Arab neighbors in the city of Hebron, who rioted for three days amid cries of "Slaughter the Jews." The killings began on Friday afternoon, 17 Av, and most of the victims lost their lives on Shabbat, 18 Av. The survivors were forced to evacuate to Jerusalem, and the ancient Jewish community of Hebron, which had lived in relative peace in the city for hundreds of years, was not revived until after Israel's capture of Hebron in the 1967 Six Day war.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Today is Sunday, Av 17, 5779 · August 18, 2019
Today in Jewish History
• Hebron Massacre (1929)

Sixty-seven Jewish men, women and children were slaughtered, and scores wounded, raped and maimed, by their Arab neighbors in the city of Hebron, who rioted for three days amid cries of "Slaughter the Jews." The killings began on Friday afternoon, 17 Av, and most of the victims lost their lives on Shabbat, 18 Av. The survivors were forced to evacuate to Jerusalem, and the ancient Jewish community of Hebron, which had lived in relative peace in the city for hundreds of years, was not revived until after Israel's capture of Hebron in the 1967 Six Day war.

Out of context (misleading) report.

 

[Hollie]

Today is Sunday, Av 17, 5779 · August 18, 2019
Today in Jewish History
• Hebron Massacre (1929)

Sixty-seven Jewish men, women and children were slaughtered, and scores wounded, raped and maimed, by their Arab neighbors in the city of Hebron, who rioted for three days amid cries of "Slaughter the Jews." The killings began on Friday afternoon, 17 Av, and most of the victims lost their lives on Shabbat, 18 Av. The survivors were forced to evacuate to Jerusalem, and the ancient Jewish community of Hebron, which had lived in relative peace in the city for hundreds of years, was not revived until after Israel's capture of Hebron in the 1967 Six Day war.

Out of context (misleading) report.

Link?

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Baltimore News report of 1929 Hebron massacre.


(full article online)

Vile Woman Rejoices in the Massacre of 67 Hebron Jews

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Palestine Bulletin described the events concerning the disturbances around the Kotel in Jerusalem that led to the 1929 pogroms in Hebron and elsewhere.

Here is a summary published on August 20, 1929, of the events so far up until the 19th:

(full article online)

Before the Hebron massacre: The Palestine Bulletin on August 19, 1929 ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Shusha]

Listening to some of this, I find it hard to believe she is an actual lawyer.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Listening to some of this, I find it hard to believe she is an actual lawyer.

Palestinians have lawyers, judges. Nazis have lawyers, judges. Communists have judges and lawyers. Fascists have judges and lawyers.

Many of them become lawyers and judges to influence, to seem to look like they are fighting for a right cause.

Let us not forget how she is an Erakat, how she demonizes Zionism, delegitimizes Israel, cries about the poor Palestinians, without really caring that her leaders, and the clan she seems to come from, are the ones keeping the Arab Palestinians where they are since 1920 with their riots, wars and refugee status for all Palestinians.

She was born in California. Is she also a refugee, still ? Or only in her mind? Or for the purpose of demonizing Israel?

Here is some of what she said in another lecture:

[ Erakat repeated her thesis that Arabs could “help indigenize” Israeli Jews into the Middle East and “rehabilitate that relationship” within a unitary Arab-Muslim-majority Palestinian state. Gravely distorting the nature of the Jewish state and its population, she asserted that “Israel was very much established in order to earn acceptance within Europe” and “so that Jews could become white.” She claimed that David Ben-Gurion, Israel’s founding prime minister, stated, “Israel is part of the Middle Eastern geography only,” which, given the region’s incessant hatred against Israel, was not entirely unreasonable.

“If you are indigenous to this land, shouldn’t you be a part of the Middle East in all ways?,” Erakat asked of Israeli Jews, suggesting the question: Should Israel therefore become a dictatorship or a theocracy? She favored this “one-state solution” over Israel being a “satellite state for Jews all over the world,” even though Zionism’s core is the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish diaspora. She fantasized about the equivalent of a “South African moment, when Nelson Mandela was no longer the president of black South Africans but became the president of South Africa.”

To bolster her anti-Zionism, Erakat appropriated the struggle of Mizrahi Jews — those who hail from the Middle East and North Africa — against what is, in fact, rapidly diminishing discrimination in Israel. She wanted “to cut across the native-settler binary. Instead of it being Palestinians versus Jewish Israelis, why don’t we do it as a racial struggle against .. the racial hierarchy within Israel?” Erakat rejected the terms “Middle Eastern Jews” or “Mizrahim,” claiming they serve “to separate them from the Arab world, so they cannot be both Jewish and Arab.” ]

Noura Erakat Recounts Her ‘Anxiety’ Over Israel’s Existence | The American Spectator | Politics Is Too Important To Be Taken Seriously.


Oh, yes......the Jews who lived in Arab conquered lands are "Arabs".

That is one of the latest attempts to separate Mizrahi Jews from the other Jews and turn them against Israel. "You are Arabs".

No, Mizrahi Jews were never Arabs, and to this day they continue to not be Arabs.
They never will become Arabs.......from Arabia........as if Arabia was their indigenous land, where they came from. Or like the latest attempt has been to say that the indigenous people of the land of Israel/Canaan were Arabs.

And Israel is NOT an Apartheid country, no matter how many times one may repeat it and how many fools will come to believe it.

Just another revisionist Muslim on the loose.

Any relation to this Erakat?

Saeb Erekat - Wikipedia




Am Israel Chai

 

[Shusha]

Oh she is a hot mess. No question.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Tomorrow marks the 90th anniversary of the murder of 67 Jews by an Arab mob in the city of Hebron. Many of its victims were students of the city’s famed yeshiva, which had been relocated there from Lithuania in 1924. Among them was Aharon Dovid Shainberg, a native of Memphis, Tennessee—one of several American Jews who came there to study. Akiva Males discovered Shainberg’s letters to his family, and has published some excerpts. Signed “Dave,” and addressed to “Dearest Dad,” “Dearest Mother,” or “Dear Folks,” they end on August 20, 1929—just four days before the massacre.

On his visit to the Western Wall, and the British police presence there, Shainberg wrote:
So think of it! That the holiest & most sacred spot of the Jewish people is controlled by the heartless and brazen Esau! For the few feet remaining of our holy Temple we must regard the English soldiers as the “Baale Battim” [owners or bosses]—Oh! I tell you it is heart rending!

(full article online)

Remembering the 1929 Hebron Massacre, and a Tennessean Jew Who Was among the Dead