The next Republican President hasn't been born yet

Bull. This nation is still vastly Christian.

Having Christian influenced platforms such be a huge advantage in attracting voters.
============

Only something like 17% of Americans attend church EVERY Sunday.

Americans < claim > to be Christian but don't act like it at all.

CEO's attend church on Sunday and then lay off 10,000 people on Monday in order to make 1/2 of 1% extra profit for an already highly profitable company with no regard for the damage they do to thousands of families and their careers.

Americans DO practice one religion faithfully though.

THE RELIGION OF GREED.

Attending church every sunday?

That's a pretty self serving way to measure religion.

Correll, just a thought!

Why do you think every lefty atro turfing poster on this site is against Trump and Cruz and at the same time for Rubio and Bush? Because what Mr Winger says is only partially true. If the left is thrown out now, the plan they have hatched is not complete. With a change in Presidents will come a change in immigration. They need at least one more cycle to complete the take over, so they need to keep status quo. If the NEW President brings birthright citizenship to the fore front, and if it goes to the supreme court AFTER he appoints the 3 judges he surely will in this cycle, the left is done, and they know it.

The far left, conservatives, and libertarians are fighting for their political lives this election. Of the big 3, Trump, Cruz, and Hilly........whomever wins will have the capacity to set this country on a path the other side will no longer be able to reverse; in Washington anyway. Convention of states is still possible and pausible, but I would then expect the left to break the constitution boldly to stop the states dead in their tracks.

This IS that election. Choose wisely for the GOP nominee, or RIGHTWINGERS words will become reality if we can NOT get that nominee elected. No matter what he/they say we can still elect one of ours. That is why these turfers are fighting so hard. They have gotten this close, and fear we are going to take it away from them.
 
Even worse for Republicans is changing demographics and the inability of Republicans to adapt

They got only 29% of the Hispanic vote in 2012. Given their recent histerics and blocking of immigration reform....that could drop to 15%

15% of the Hispanic vote would give Florida to the Dems. With rising Hispanic populations in Texas, it could turn Texas blue in the next 20 years

Florida and Texas turning blue would mean we will never see another Republican President




.


And yet when I point out that immigration will lead to the US being a defacto One Party State libs almost always deny that.

With all the corruption, incompetence and overreach that that entails.

Sad part is you support a one political party system as long as it is the GOP that is running the show...
 
It only takes a glance at what is filling the Republican Clown Car to realize why the next Republican President hasn't been born yet

They are at war with America and at war with themselves

The very fact that a Donald Trump could be taken seriously by a major political party is their death knell
 
The GOP always wins the White VOte, not just White Males.

The Rich are split fairly evenly, compared to minorities at least.

So are the Poor whites.

Your bigoted terminology for poor Whites is noted btw.

It does not win the white vote outright. There are millions of white people who vote democrat. My point is that the white vote is split. The Hispanic, female, gay and black votes are heavily apportioned to the Dems.

I can only go on what I see on TV and on these messageboards. The right-leaning poor white folk come across as ignorant, racist and dumb. Maybe that's why they're poor trailer trash.
The old, angry, white, Christian demographic is dying off

With it....the Grand Old Party
 
Attending church every sunday?

That's a pretty self serving way to measure religion.
==========

It's a pretty darn accurate way of judging how SERIOUSLY the " Christians " take their religion.

If they REALLY believed they would be in Church every day ... not just on the occasional Sunday when they are in the mood.
 
Strawman: nothing I said claimed or implied force.

Beyond that you really didn't address any of my points, other than to ignore them and restate your claims that I had already addressed.

So, if you could reply honestly this time?


1. Democrats do import people, that's what the 65 Immigration act was all about.

2. 10 years? Considering this plan has been being implemented since 65, that is really, really irrelevant.

3. Link that all immigrants "Third World". And please explain relevance.

4. The fact that our policy is to import Voters who bloc vote Dem is the fault of dems. They were doing this long before the "childish rhetoric" of the other night, so it was dishonest of you to blame that.


RW, you gloat that the next Republican President has not yet been born.

That is not something you get because of rhetoric or even policy. Both of those can change ever election.

That is something you get with bloc voting.

So when you start talking smack about this Republican did that, or said this, you are contradiction yourself.

Also,

5. You never address the fact that telling those who you plan to permanently disenfranchise that it is because they are basically bad, or stupid or racist or some other BS, is going to just piss them off more.

What is your vision on how this will work out for the best, ie that you screw so many people, and then tell them it is their fault and that there is nothing they can ever do about it except suck it up?

You just don't get it...

Nobody is permanently disenfranchised. As demographics have changed, it is up to the political entities to evolve to a changing electorate. The refusal of Republicans to do so can only mean......

The next Republican President hasn't been born yet


If that was the case, you wouldn't be gloating that the next REpublican President hasn't been born yet.

A cycle or two in the wilderness and some new blood and a new platform and boom, the political entity has evolved.

BUT your gloating has revealed that you know that is not an option in this case. Or at least a very unlikely one.

SO, please stop lying about it.

Bloc voting by minorities and split voting by whites, who do not bloc vote and the majority of whites will be permanently disenfranchised.


I have been agreeing with you on this trend. It is something other libs have been gloating about.

I have also been asking you to share with me/us your view on how this will work out to be a good thing.

Which is something you must think since you support the policies that are making it happens, ie Third World Immigration.


But you have refused to share your view of the future with me.

I'm beginning to wonder if you also think that such a future will be a nightmare for America as a whole and for White People in particular what with Disparate Impact Theory and no legal or political recourse.

But if that is the case why do you want it? Why push for an outcome that is not in the best interest of American or Americans?

If you read my posts on this thread, they have concentrated on the issue...namely, the electoral vote process has gotten to the point where Republicans can no longer get the 270 votes they need to win the White House

Rather than gloating, I am identifying a critical problem that Republicans need to address

Can a party called the Republicans eventually build a constituency that is once again capable of winning the White House? I believe they can.
Can this version of Republicanism ever win back the White House? That is no longer possible

Sorry, that is not what you are doing.

Policies and platforms change with each candidate. Yet you are stating that the next GOP President has not yet been born.

That is at least 36 years, and more likely 50 plus.

And that's not to say it won't be longer.

That is NOT an issue driven by policies, it is an issue driven by bloc identity voting, which is the half of the base of the Dems and growing half.

Thus permanent disenfranchisement.

So, please stop denying the obvious and share with my your vision of what a One Party State America will look like.

I'm thinking about 50 years

Republicans have marginalized themselves and blocked out a constituency that can't win
Like I said, Florida and Texas will ensure that the next Republican President hasn't been born yet
Hispanic populations with entrenched memories of the racist rhetoric emanating from right wing media. The punitive and demeaning laws targeted at Hispanics

What changes in 50 years, that ends bloc voting by "minorities"?
 
Bull. This nation is still vastly Christian.

Having Christian influenced platforms such be a huge advantage in attracting voters.
============

Only something like 17% of Americans attend church EVERY Sunday.

Americans < claim > to be Christian but don't act like it at all.

CEO's attend church on Sunday and then lay off 10,000 people on Monday in order to make 1/2 of 1% extra profit for an already highly profitable company with no regard for the damage they do to thousands of families and their careers.

Americans DO practice one religion faithfully though.

THE RELIGION OF GREED.

Attending church every sunday?

That's a pretty self serving way to measure religion.
It is a good measure of those who will use their religion to guide their vote

I've never heard that.

Is that a guess of yours? Or have you seen studies tracking that?

It would be really helpful to see religious pro-life blacks tracked by weekly church attendance and voting Republican.
 
The GOP always wins the White VOte, not just White Males.

The Rich are split fairly evenly, compared to minorities at least.

So are the Poor whites.

Your bigoted terminology for poor Whites is noted btw.

It does not win the white vote outright. There are millions of white people who vote democrat. My point is that the white vote is split. The Hispanic, female, gay and black votes are heavily apportioned to the Dems.

I can only go on what I see on TV and on these messageboards. The right-leaning poor white folk come across as ignorant, racist and dumb. Maybe that's why they're poor trailer trash.
The old, angry, white, Christian demographic is dying off

With it....the Grand Old Party

Whites are not dying off. We are being swamped by Third World Immigration and high birthrates.

Whites will be the largest single ethnic group for a long time AFTER Minority Majority. Your assumption that Permanently Disenfranchising them will be fun and easy is utter madness.

Enjoy the oh so polite public discourse of today. For these are the Good Old Days.
 
You just don't get it...

Nobody is permanently disenfranchised. As demographics have changed, it is up to the political entities to evolve to a changing electorate. The refusal of Republicans to do so can only mean......

The next Republican President hasn't been born yet


If that was the case, you wouldn't be gloating that the next REpublican President hasn't been born yet.

A cycle or two in the wilderness and some new blood and a new platform and boom, the political entity has evolved.

BUT your gloating has revealed that you know that is not an option in this case. Or at least a very unlikely one.

SO, please stop lying about it.

Bloc voting by minorities and split voting by whites, who do not bloc vote and the majority of whites will be permanently disenfranchised.


I have been agreeing with you on this trend. It is something other libs have been gloating about.

I have also been asking you to share with me/us your view on how this will work out to be a good thing.

Which is something you must think since you support the policies that are making it happens, ie Third World Immigration.


But you have refused to share your view of the future with me.

I'm beginning to wonder if you also think that such a future will be a nightmare for America as a whole and for White People in particular what with Disparate Impact Theory and no legal or political recourse.

But if that is the case why do you want it? Why push for an outcome that is not in the best interest of American or Americans?

If you read my posts on this thread, they have concentrated on the issue...namely, the electoral vote process has gotten to the point where Republicans can no longer get the 270 votes they need to win the White House

Rather than gloating, I am identifying a critical problem that Republicans need to address

Can a party called the Republicans eventually build a constituency that is once again capable of winning the White House? I believe they can.
Can this version of Republicanism ever win back the White House? That is no longer possible

Sorry, that is not what you are doing.

Policies and platforms change with each candidate. Yet you are stating that the next GOP President has not yet been born.

That is at least 36 years, and more likely 50 plus.

And that's not to say it won't be longer.

That is NOT an issue driven by policies, it is an issue driven by bloc identity voting, which is the half of the base of the Dems and growing half.

Thus permanent disenfranchisement.

So, please stop denying the obvious and share with my your vision of what a One Party State America will look like.

I'm thinking about 50 years

Republicans have marginalized themselves and blocked out a constituency that can't win
Like I said, Florida and Texas will ensure that the next Republican President hasn't been born yet
Hispanic populations with entrenched memories of the racist rhetoric emanating from right wing media. The punitive and demeaning laws targeted at Hispanics

What changes in 50 years, that ends bloc voting by "minorities"?
They are not block voting....They are voting for the party that best represents their views

Republicans are doomed
 
Attending church every sunday?

That's a pretty self serving way to measure religion.
==========

It's a pretty darn accurate way of judging how SERIOUSLY the " Christians " take their religion.

If they REALLY believed they would be in Church every day ... not just on the occasional Sunday when they are in the mood.


That seems to be an unsupported assumption on your part.

One that is very self serving as it gives you an excuse to minimize the number and thus deserved role of Christians in America.
 
If that was the case, you wouldn't be gloating that the next REpublican President hasn't been born yet.

A cycle or two in the wilderness and some new blood and a new platform and boom, the political entity has evolved.

BUT your gloating has revealed that you know that is not an option in this case. Or at least a very unlikely one.

SO, please stop lying about it.

Bloc voting by minorities and split voting by whites, who do not bloc vote and the majority of whites will be permanently disenfranchised.


I have been agreeing with you on this trend. It is something other libs have been gloating about.

I have also been asking you to share with me/us your view on how this will work out to be a good thing.

Which is something you must think since you support the policies that are making it happens, ie Third World Immigration.


But you have refused to share your view of the future with me.

I'm beginning to wonder if you also think that such a future will be a nightmare for America as a whole and for White People in particular what with Disparate Impact Theory and no legal or political recourse.

But if that is the case why do you want it? Why push for an outcome that is not in the best interest of American or Americans?

If you read my posts on this thread, they have concentrated on the issue...namely, the electoral vote process has gotten to the point where Republicans can no longer get the 270 votes they need to win the White House

Rather than gloating, I am identifying a critical problem that Republicans need to address

Can a party called the Republicans eventually build a constituency that is once again capable of winning the White House? I believe they can.
Can this version of Republicanism ever win back the White House? That is no longer possible

Sorry, that is not what you are doing.

Policies and platforms change with each candidate. Yet you are stating that the next GOP President has not yet been born.

That is at least 36 years, and more likely 50 plus.

And that's not to say it won't be longer.

That is NOT an issue driven by policies, it is an issue driven by bloc identity voting, which is the half of the base of the Dems and growing half.

Thus permanent disenfranchisement.

So, please stop denying the obvious and share with my your vision of what a One Party State America will look like.

I'm thinking about 50 years

Republicans have marginalized themselves and blocked out a constituency that can't win
Like I said, Florida and Texas will ensure that the next Republican President hasn't been born yet
Hispanic populations with entrenched memories of the racist rhetoric emanating from right wing media. The punitive and demeaning laws targeted at Hispanics

What changes in 50 years, that ends bloc voting by "minorities"?
They are not block voting....They are voting for the party that best represents their views

Republicans are doomed

AKA giving free stuff.....eventually the free stuff has to paid for and the dems don't have a clue other than raising taxes
 
If that was the case, you wouldn't be gloating that the next REpublican President hasn't been born yet.

A cycle or two in the wilderness and some new blood and a new platform and boom, the political entity has evolved.

BUT your gloating has revealed that you know that is not an option in this case. Or at least a very unlikely one.

SO, please stop lying about it.

Bloc voting by minorities and split voting by whites, who do not bloc vote and the majority of whites will be permanently disenfranchised.


I have been agreeing with you on this trend. It is something other libs have been gloating about.

I have also been asking you to share with me/us your view on how this will work out to be a good thing.

Which is something you must think since you support the policies that are making it happens, ie Third World Immigration.


But you have refused to share your view of the future with me.

I'm beginning to wonder if you also think that such a future will be a nightmare for America as a whole and for White People in particular what with Disparate Impact Theory and no legal or political recourse.

But if that is the case why do you want it? Why push for an outcome that is not in the best interest of American or Americans?

If you read my posts on this thread, they have concentrated on the issue...namely, the electoral vote process has gotten to the point where Republicans can no longer get the 270 votes they need to win the White House

Rather than gloating, I am identifying a critical problem that Republicans need to address

Can a party called the Republicans eventually build a constituency that is once again capable of winning the White House? I believe they can.
Can this version of Republicanism ever win back the White House? That is no longer possible

Sorry, that is not what you are doing.

Policies and platforms change with each candidate. Yet you are stating that the next GOP President has not yet been born.

That is at least 36 years, and more likely 50 plus.

And that's not to say it won't be longer.

That is NOT an issue driven by policies, it is an issue driven by bloc identity voting, which is the half of the base of the Dems and growing half.

Thus permanent disenfranchisement.

So, please stop denying the obvious and share with my your vision of what a One Party State America will look like.

I'm thinking about 50 years

Republicans have marginalized themselves and blocked out a constituency that can't win
Like I said, Florida and Texas will ensure that the next Republican President hasn't been born yet
Hispanic populations with entrenched memories of the racist rhetoric emanating from right wing media. The punitive and demeaning laws targeted at Hispanics

What changes in 50 years, that ends bloc voting by "minorities"?
They are not block voting....They are voting for the party that best represents their views

Republicans are doomed


I've talked to too many Pro-life Hard Core dem blacks to buy that line.

Block voting is WHY you are gloating about the demographic shift and "doom" for the GOP.

So, I asked you what changes in 50 years that leads to a GOP president then.

YOu didn't answer.

So, what change do you envision in 50 years?
 
Bull. This nation is still vastly Christian.

Having Christian influenced platforms such be a huge advantage in attracting voters.
============

Only something like 17% of Americans attend church EVERY Sunday.

Americans < claim > to be Christian but don't act like it at all.

CEO's attend church on Sunday and then lay off 10,000 people on Monday in order to make 1/2 of 1% extra profit for an already highly profitable company with no regard for the damage they do to thousands of families and their careers.

Americans DO practice one religion faithfully though.

THE RELIGION OF GREED.

Attending church every sunday?

That's a pretty self serving way to measure religion.

Correll, just a thought!

Why do you think every lefty atro turfing poster on this site is against Trump and Cruz and at the same time for Rubio and Bush? Because what Mr Winger says is only partially true. If the left is thrown out now, the plan they have hatched is not complete. With a change in Presidents will come a change in immigration. They need at least one more cycle to complete the take over, so they need to keep status quo. If the NEW President brings birthright citizenship to the fore front, and if it goes to the supreme court AFTER he appoints the 3 judges he surely will in this cycle, the left is done, and they know it.

The far left, conservatives, and libertarians are fighting for their political lives this election. Of the big 3, Trump, Cruz, and Hilly........whomever wins will have the capacity to set this country on a path the other side will no longer be able to reverse; in Washington anyway. Convention of states is still possible and pausible, but I would then expect the left to break the constitution boldly to stop the states dead in their tracks.

This IS that election. Choose wisely for the GOP nominee, or RIGHTWINGERS words will become reality if we can NOT get that nominee elected. No matter what he/they say we can still elect one of ours. That is why these turfers are fighting so hard. They have gotten this close, and fear we are going to take it away from them.


Personally, I'm afraid that you are wrong, and that it is too late, regardless of whether Trump gets elected.

What with all the Third World VOters that have been brought in who are now legally Americans, and children are legally americans.

BUT i agree that if there is any chance of a reversal, it has to be NOW and Trump is the very last chance.
 
If you read my posts on this thread, they have concentrated on the issue...namely, the electoral vote process has gotten to the point where Republicans can no longer get the 270 votes they need to win the White House

Rather than gloating, I am identifying a critical problem that Republicans need to address

Can a party called the Republicans eventually build a constituency that is once again capable of winning the White House? I believe they can.
Can this version of Republicanism ever win back the White House? That is no longer possible

Sorry, that is not what you are doing.

Policies and platforms change with each candidate. Yet you are stating that the next GOP President has not yet been born.

That is at least 36 years, and more likely 50 plus.

And that's not to say it won't be longer.

That is NOT an issue driven by policies, it is an issue driven by bloc identity voting, which is the half of the base of the Dems and growing half.

Thus permanent disenfranchisement.

So, please stop denying the obvious and share with my your vision of what a One Party State America will look like.

I'm thinking about 50 years

Republicans have marginalized themselves and blocked out a constituency that can't win
Like I said, Florida and Texas will ensure that the next Republican President hasn't been born yet
Hispanic populations with entrenched memories of the racist rhetoric emanating from right wing media. The punitive and demeaning laws targeted at Hispanics

What changes in 50 years, that ends bloc voting by "minorities"?
They are not block voting....They are voting for the party that best represents their views

Republicans are doomed

AKA giving free stuff.....eventually the free stuff has to paid for and the dems don't have a clue other than raising taxes


Hillary is unelectable, and the left knows it, no matter how hard they try and pretend with their bravado and phony threads like this, lol.

What they are doing, is trying to get a moderate republican to be anointed, so their Washington apparatus isn't dismantled by the next President; along with immigration rules changes, etc.

Here is a fact...........the left is scared to death. Hillary is not looking good, because she is in trouble before the campaign starts. The LEFT is trying to pick OUR candidate so as to exert control after they lose.

Sorry WINGER, over ruled, not gonna happen-)
 
If you read my posts on this thread, they have concentrated on the issue...namely, the electoral vote process has gotten to the point where Republicans can no longer get the 270 votes they need to win the White House

Rather than gloating, I am identifying a critical problem that Republicans need to address

Can a party called the Republicans eventually build a constituency that is once again capable of winning the White House? I believe they can.
Can this version of Republicanism ever win back the White House? That is no longer possible

Sorry, that is not what you are doing.

Policies and platforms change with each candidate. Yet you are stating that the next GOP President has not yet been born.

That is at least 36 years, and more likely 50 plus.

And that's not to say it won't be longer.

That is NOT an issue driven by policies, it is an issue driven by bloc identity voting, which is the half of the base of the Dems and growing half.

Thus permanent disenfranchisement.

So, please stop denying the obvious and share with my your vision of what a One Party State America will look like.

I'm thinking about 50 years

Republicans have marginalized themselves and blocked out a constituency that can't win
Like I said, Florida and Texas will ensure that the next Republican President hasn't been born yet
Hispanic populations with entrenched memories of the racist rhetoric emanating from right wing media. The punitive and demeaning laws targeted at Hispanics

What changes in 50 years, that ends bloc voting by "minorities"?
They are not block voting....They are voting for the party that best represents their views

Republicans are doomed

AKA giving free stuff.....eventually the free stuff has to paid for and the dems don't have a clue other than raising taxes
Free stuff...what a crutch for a party that is alienating voters

If it is free stuff that gets minorities to vote Democratic...why do Asians and Jews also vote overwhelmingly for Democrats?
 
Bull. This nation is still vastly Christian.

Having Christian influenced platforms such be a huge advantage in attracting voters.
============

Only something like 17% of Americans attend church EVERY Sunday.

Americans < claim > to be Christian but don't act like it at all.

CEO's attend church on Sunday and then lay off 10,000 people on Monday in order to make 1/2 of 1% extra profit for an already highly profitable company with no regard for the damage they do to thousands of families and their careers.

Americans DO practice one religion faithfully though.

THE RELIGION OF GREED.

Attending church every sunday?

That's a pretty self serving way to measure religion.

Correll, just a thought!

Why do you think every lefty atro turfing poster on this site is against Trump and Cruz and at the same time for Rubio and Bush? Because what Mr Winger says is only partially true. If the left is thrown out now, the plan they have hatched is not complete. With a change in Presidents will come a change in immigration. They need at least one more cycle to complete the take over, so they need to keep status quo. If the NEW President brings birthright citizenship to the fore front, and if it goes to the supreme court AFTER he appoints the 3 judges he surely will in this cycle, the left is done, and they know it.

The far left, conservatives, and libertarians are fighting for their political lives this election. Of the big 3, Trump, Cruz, and Hilly........whomever wins will have the capacity to set this country on a path the other side will no longer be able to reverse; in Washington anyway. Convention of states is still possible and pausible, but I would then expect the left to break the constitution boldly to stop the states dead in their tracks.

This IS that election. Choose wisely for the GOP nominee, or RIGHTWINGERS words will become reality if we can NOT get that nominee elected. No matter what he/they say we can still elect one of ours. That is why these turfers are fighting so hard. They have gotten this close, and fear we are going to take it away from them.


Personally, I'm afraid that you are wrong, and that it is too late, regardless of whether Trump gets elected.

What with all the Third World VOters that have been brought in who are now legally Americans, and children are legally americans.

BUT i agree that if there is any chance of a reversal, it has to be NOW and Trump is the very last chance.
Republicans nominating Trump will be identified as the breaking point of the Republican Party
 
Bull. This nation is still vastly Christian.

Having Christian influenced platforms such be a huge advantage in attracting voters.
============

Only something like 17% of Americans attend church EVERY Sunday.

Americans < claim > to be Christian but don't act like it at all.

CEO's attend church on Sunday and then lay off 10,000 people on Monday in order to make 1/2 of 1% extra profit for an already highly profitable company with no regard for the damage they do to thousands of families and their careers.

Americans DO practice one religion faithfully though.

THE RELIGION OF GREED.

Attending church every sunday?

That's a pretty self serving way to measure religion.

Correll, just a thought!

Why do you think every lefty atro turfing poster on this site is against Trump and Cruz and at the same time for Rubio and Bush? Because what Mr Winger says is only partially true. If the left is thrown out now, the plan they have hatched is not complete. With a change in Presidents will come a change in immigration. They need at least one more cycle to complete the take over, so they need to keep status quo. If the NEW President brings birthright citizenship to the fore front, and if it goes to the supreme court AFTER he appoints the 3 judges he surely will in this cycle, the left is done, and they know it.

The far left, conservatives, and libertarians are fighting for their political lives this election. Of the big 3, Trump, Cruz, and Hilly........whomever wins will have the capacity to set this country on a path the other side will no longer be able to reverse; in Washington anyway. Convention of states is still possible and pausible, but I would then expect the left to break the constitution boldly to stop the states dead in their tracks.

This IS that election. Choose wisely for the GOP nominee, or RIGHTWINGERS words will become reality if we can NOT get that nominee elected. No matter what he/they say we can still elect one of ours. That is why these turfers are fighting so hard. They have gotten this close, and fear we are going to take it away from them.


Personally, I'm afraid that you are wrong, and that it is too late, regardless of whether Trump gets elected.

What with all the Third World VOters that have been brought in who are now legally Americans, and children are legally americans.

BUT i agree that if there is any chance of a reversal, it has to be NOW and Trump is the very last chance.


No my friend, I am not wrong. Why? Because these voters congregate in very big cities, and most of those states were long ago blue. We were never going to win California, New York, or Illinois. The Dems winning them by 2% or 10% mean nothing in the electoral college. A lot of states matter, but the main 2 are Florida, (we have Florida this time big) and Ohio.

There you have it, one state, Ohio. Win that state in 16, and your odds are 70-30, the GOP wins the Presidency. It is what it is, but as of this post, that is what it boils down to, because Florida is in the bag, and the Dems know it!
 
Bull. This nation is still vastly Christian.

Having Christian influenced platforms such be a huge advantage in attracting voters.
============

Only something like 17% of Americans attend church EVERY Sunday.

Americans < claim > to be Christian but don't act like it at all.

CEO's attend church on Sunday and then lay off 10,000 people on Monday in order to make 1/2 of 1% extra profit for an already highly profitable company with no regard for the damage they do to thousands of families and their careers.

Americans DO practice one religion faithfully though.

THE RELIGION OF GREED.

Attending church every sunday?

That's a pretty self serving way to measure religion.

Correll, just a thought!

Why do you think every lefty atro turfing poster on this site is against Trump and Cruz and at the same time for Rubio and Bush? Because what Mr Winger says is only partially true. If the left is thrown out now, the plan they have hatched is not complete. With a change in Presidents will come a change in immigration. They need at least one more cycle to complete the take over, so they need to keep status quo. If the NEW President brings birthright citizenship to the fore front, and if it goes to the supreme court AFTER he appoints the 3 judges he surely will in this cycle, the left is done, and they know it.

The far left, conservatives, and libertarians are fighting for their political lives this election. Of the big 3, Trump, Cruz, and Hilly........whomever wins will have the capacity to set this country on a path the other side will no longer be able to reverse; in Washington anyway. Convention of states is still possible and pausible, but I would then expect the left to break the constitution boldly to stop the states dead in their tracks.

This IS that election. Choose wisely for the GOP nominee, or RIGHTWINGERS words will become reality if we can NOT get that nominee elected. No matter what he/they say we can still elect one of ours. That is why these turfers are fighting so hard. They have gotten this close, and fear we are going to take it away from them.


Personally, I'm afraid that you are wrong, and that it is too late, regardless of whether Trump gets elected.

What with all the Third World VOters that have been brought in who are now legally Americans, and children are legally americans.

BUT i agree that if there is any chance of a reversal, it has to be NOW and Trump is the very last chance.


No my friend, I am not wrong. Why? Because these voters congregate in very big cities, and most of those states were long ago blue. We were never going to win California, New York, or Illinois. The Dems winning them by 2% or 10% mean nothing in the electoral college. A lot of states matter, but the main 2 are Florida, (we have Florida this time big) and Ohio.

There you have it, one state, Ohio. Win that state in 16, and your odds are 70-30, the GOP wins the Presidency. It is what it is, but as of this post, that is what it boils down to, because Florida is in the bag, and the Dems know it!
Depends who you run

Bush or Rubio puts Florida in the hands of Republicans. Anyone else and Hillary wins big

Ohio, Virginia, Colorado, Nevada....all blue
 
It is a good measure of those who will use their religion to guide their vote

I've never heard that.

Is that a guess of yours? Or have you seen studies tracking that?

It would be really helpful to see religious pro-life blacks tracked by weekly church attendance and voting Republican.[/QUOTE]
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The 17% came from a report that was posted online in a forum but I didn't retain a link other than my memory. It gave stats for attending every week / once a month/ occasionally / on major holidays X-mas and Easter etc. etc.

How would a study tracking pro-life blacks be helpful other than, perhaps, as fuel for a racist dialogue?

If they are pro-life they more than likely would be considered Republican voters ... not many Dem voters succumb to the pro-life lies and doctored videos.

Personally I am pro-life AND pro-choice. I wouldn't want a female in my family to have an abortion ... but I respect her right to choose for herself without me thinking any the less of her. It isn't a religious issue for me ( an agnostic / atheist depending on the mood of the day ) but more of an emotional one.

And, although I say I'm pro-life --- I would NEVER vote to ban abortions NEVER NEVER NEVER.

After all God aborts millions of potential fetuses every day around the world.

He causes or allows fertilized eggs to fail to attach to the uterine wall which is a form of abortion ( I believe some birth control works that way ).

Even after they HAVE attached to the uterine wall, millions of fetuses are miscarried every day and don't get to live.

GOD DID THAT.

You know --- the God I don't believe in. But the same God the pro-life people claim hates abortion. The same one who just aborted half a million fetuses this morning around the world.

Not to mention other worlds in the multiple universes out there.

But you probably do believe.
 
Bull. This nation is still vastly Christian.

Having Christian influenced platforms such be a huge advantage in attracting voters.
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Only something like 17% of Americans attend church EVERY Sunday.

Americans < claim > to be Christian but don't act like it at all.

CEO's attend church on Sunday and then lay off 10,000 people on Monday in order to make 1/2 of 1% extra profit for an already highly profitable company with no regard for the damage they do to thousands of families and their careers.

Americans DO practice one religion faithfully though.

THE RELIGION OF GREED.

Attending church every sunday?

That's a pretty self serving way to measure religion.

Correll, just a thought!

Why do you think every lefty atro turfing poster on this site is against Trump and Cruz and at the same time for Rubio and Bush? Because what Mr Winger says is only partially true. If the left is thrown out now, the plan they have hatched is not complete. With a change in Presidents will come a change in immigration. They need at least one more cycle to complete the take over, so they need to keep status quo. If the NEW President brings birthright citizenship to the fore front, and if it goes to the supreme court AFTER he appoints the 3 judges he surely will in this cycle, the left is done, and they know it.

The far left, conservatives, and libertarians are fighting for their political lives this election. Of the big 3, Trump, Cruz, and Hilly........whomever wins will have the capacity to set this country on a path the other side will no longer be able to reverse; in Washington anyway. Convention of states is still possible and pausible, but I would then expect the left to break the constitution boldly to stop the states dead in their tracks.

This IS that election. Choose wisely for the GOP nominee, or RIGHTWINGERS words will become reality if we can NOT get that nominee elected. No matter what he/they say we can still elect one of ours. That is why these turfers are fighting so hard. They have gotten this close, and fear we are going to take it away from them.


Personally, I'm afraid that you are wrong, and that it is too late, regardless of whether Trump gets elected.

What with all the Third World VOters that have been brought in who are now legally Americans, and children are legally americans.

BUT i agree that if there is any chance of a reversal, it has to be NOW and Trump is the very last chance.


Here is the thing Correll, that every conservative needs to think about........

California is worth 55 electoral votes, yes?

It has between 38, and 39 million people in the state, yes?

So, how many of them are Hispanic? LOL, yes, I am laughing.

Tell you what, we know they are heavily Hispanic, but lets help the Dems out even more, lets make ALL 39 million Hispanic, and they ALL vote Democratic.

So then, how many votes did the Democrats just get? Why 39 million! How many electoral votes did they get? Why 55! That is correct, they still only get 55. That is the key to the whole debate, and WINGER, AKA ASTRO TURFING LIBTARD, has everyone thinking it is over, history, forget about it.

NO, it is far from over. They all reside in a few states, and one of those states, they are going to lose, known as FLORIDA! Texas, they are not going to win! And Black America is not happy with illegals taking their jobs, so guess what.....we are going to see less Black votes, and a larger % for the GOP.

So, WINGER is playing "look, squirrel" politics. He is trying to get everyone to look at the squirrel, instead of seeing what is important.........the Democrats in deep trouble, and using propaganda to try and wiggle out of it-)
 

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