The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

What are your Initial Thoughts on the Guilt or Innocence of George Zimmerman?


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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jG7AeynVrU]Trayvon Martin crime scene photos - YouTube[/ame]

@ :35 and 1:00 it CLEARLY shows the dead body is 10 feet away from the cement.
 
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Seminole Co sheriff on post-verdict security! WOW Are they scared it may get out of hand for real?

Why wouldn't they be?

I am not there but there has certainly been enough talk about riots.

Hope for the best and prepare for the worst?

you are right! I just haven't seen much of that kinda thing like riots and all. Sheltered I guess and it is scary to think of it all getting crazy.
 
You really have a poor grasp of the English language, don't you bub?

Don't like people pointing out your bias? Stop being biased.

You said you would vote not guilty if it wasn't for stand your ground. That means you think Zimmerman is not guilty, but think he should go to jail anyway just because of your agenda against the SYG law.

No, it means that since Martin had every legal right to defend himself and since Zimmerman went after him, Zimmerman is at fault and should be convicted of manslaughter.

If Martin DIDN'T have a legal right to defend himself and instead was obligated to retreat then Zimmerman would have to be let off as it would merely be a he said/she said case with a reasonable doubt.

What?

Why is this so hard to understand? Stand your ground applies only if the state charges you with a crime. It is specifically written to apply only if you are charged and decide to demand an extra procedural step that imposes an extra burden on the state. It never applied in this case because Zimmerman never argued that, even though he could have run away after the fight started, he chose to stand his ground.
 
Sure..there were 2 flashlights found.

So both didn't work?

:eusa_whistle:

Where were the flashlights? Did the have fingerprints? DNA?

:lol:

Wait. First the defense is using the flashlights to point out that the incident started at the T Junction..and you are saying that the flashlights didn't belong to Zimmerman.

Which is it?

Did I say that? You claimed that Zimmerman is lying because he said the flashlight didn't work, I want to know what evidence you are basing that on.

You are the idiot that thinks the fact that Zimmerman's DNA was not found under Martin's fingernails proves Zimmerman was lying. Did they check the flashlights for DNA and fingerprints? Did they check them to see if they actually worked? Come to think of it, did they actually see they worked, and then bring them into court to prove Zimmerman was lying about it?Am I supposed to believe he is lying because it makes him guilty, or because you said so?
 
If Zimmerman is convicted, will conservatives try to 'spirit him out of the country' in order to help him seek political asylum somewhere?

Maybe this is the 'spark' that conservatives have been waiting for in order to spur on an American Spring (ala the Arab Spring), and overthrow our gov't.
 
How many conservatives here would want Zimmerman roving around with a gun in their neighborhood late at night looking for punks who might just so happen to bear a strong resemblance to their own kids?

St. Skittles didn't look anything like either of my kids.
 
Seminole Co sheriff on post-verdict security! WOW Are they scared it may get out of hand for real?

Why wouldn't they be?

I am not there but there has certainly been enough talk about riots.

Hope for the best and prepare for the worst?

you are right! I just haven't seen much of that kinda thing like riots and all. Sheltered I guess and it is scary to think of it all getting crazy.

I have seen them on TV.

While teaching--we were on high alert at many times--that was close enough for me.

I assume the National Guard is on stand by--all LE ready to move out.

If you are in Atlanta--you might remember Freaknik and an incident a couple of years ago in Piedmont Park?

Tempers flare when it is hot.
 
Since many of the injuries to George Zimmerman could have only been caused by contact from cement...what does that prove other than at in the process of pushing Martin off of him that George Zimmerman moved him away from the cement?

Here's your problem, Quick. You want to pretend that Martin didn't inflict injuries on George Zimmerman because if he DID then Zimmerman's self defense claim becomes extremely valid but Zimmerman DOES have those injuries and the WERE caused by Trayvon Martin.
 
Why wouldn't they be?

I am not there but there has certainly been enough talk about riots.

Hope for the best and prepare for the worst?

you are right! I just haven't seen much of that kinda thing like riots and all. Sheltered I guess and it is scary to think of it all getting crazy.

I have seen them on TV.

While teaching--we were on high alert at many times--that was close enough for me.

I assume the National Guard is on stand by--all LE ready to move out.

If you are in Atlanta--you might remember Freaknik and an incident a couple of years ago in Piedmont Park?

Tempers flare when it is hot.

I remember people talking about it but I am a little more country than Atlanta. lol
 
If Zimmerman is convicted, will conservatives try to 'spirit him out of the country' in order to help him seek political asylum somewhere?

Maybe this is the 'spark' that conservatives have been waiting for in order to spur on an American Spring (ala the Arab Spring), and overthrow our gov't.

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@ :35 and 1:00 it CLEARLY shows the dead body is 10 feet away from the cement.

SO? you can throw somebody 3-5 feet away from yourself and then somebody can crawl the remaining 5 feet. 10 feet is not a long distance - T height was more than half of that distance :rolleyes:
 
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Trayvon Martin crime scene photos - YouTube

@ :35 and 1:00 it CLEARLY shows the dead body is 10 feet away from the cement.

You're forgetting that the fight wasn't stationary. Nice try though.

I just said that the only time there would have been some kind of justification to shoot Trayvon it would have been the second he allegedly had his head smashed on the cement.

The video shows @ 5:00 very clearly just how light his injuries were. Except for the moment on the cement, such injuries would never warrant killing someone over with such a large man like GZ.
 
A leaked report says the judge received the following note from a juror;


"Bring me the head of Bernie de la Rionda"



:eek:
 
OK, the jury sent a note to the Judge. They want the life size doll, candles and some Barry White CD's.

Correction: Marvin Gaye CD's, preferred Greatest Hits with "Let's Get It On" and The Isley Brothers CD's, prefer Greatest Hits with "Between the Sheets".

Wait, one more note, the want the O'Jays as well and System of a Down.

They are asking for Vanilla Fudge's "You Keep Me Hanging On" and some weed too.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo-5NKeDXSE]You keep me hanging on - YouTube[/ame]
 
Prosecutor John Guy followed with a rebuttal, accusing Zimmerman of telling "so many lies." He said Martin's last feeling was fear.

"Isn't that every child's worst nightmare, to be followed on the way home in the dark by a stranger," Guy said. "Isn't that every child's worst fear?"
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If Martin was so afraid, why did he go back and confront Zimmerman?
Every statement by the prosecutor begs for obvious rebuttal.
"Martin didnt have 4 minutes to get away. He had 4 minutes to live". So why didnt he choose to live and run back home?
His statements don't hold up under even the mildest scrutiny.
 
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