The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

[S.J.]

S.J

Zimmerman is going to be a very rich man when he's done suing the fucking media. It's going to be fun to watch.

I hope you're right, and he should have a good case against NBC for editing the 911 tape.

 

[Ernie S.]

I don't know why Zimmerman is a pathological liar. But he is. Already proven, he was found guilty of lying about the money folks were donating to him to the Judge. He lied about his father on his application for police officer. Many many lies. Justified? I look at him, I listen to what he says.. and I see a pathological liar. Murderer? Nah. Wannabe.. coward, liar, ...ayup guy killed a teem to save himself from a couple slaps. Invol. Manslaughter.

Pathological liar??? Come ON! He called his dad a judge instead of a magistrate on an application? He lied about his finances so he could get out on bond and have something left over to support his wife and save his home from foreclosure? Give me a break!

Just wait until Martin's character is brought up by the Defense. I mean, there is some shit there that will have people wanting to dig him up and put him on trial.

Judge, Jury, and Executioner? George was wreck-less. The teen died due to George' wreck-less actions. Open and shut case for the lesser charge of invol. manslaughter. Self defense does not excuse George' wreck-less actions.

The kid died because he attacked a man with a gun. simple as that.

 

[RKMBrown]

He didn't "act properly" at all. He wasn't a Law Enforcement Officer and there are laws against following and menacing others. Most Neighborhood Watch Folks are cautioned against patrolling armed as well, for obvious reasons. He had zero standing to do what he did when he got out of his car and followed a frightened kid. And it seems that he didn't have the proper training to handle the situation.

It's also becoming more and more clear that he had an agenda. And that agenda was to hunt and kill a human being.

You made that stupid shit up. You must be on crack!

Zimmerman was not menacing or Trayvon would have said so to DeeDee. There is no law against following, reporting or asking questions & it does not make him the aggressor or the one who started the fight. The aggressor & fight starter is the one who makes the first strike or attempt to injure someone. There is no evidence, witness or marks on TM's body to indicate GZ was ever the aggressor of fight starter.

You mean other than the bullet in his chest and mud in his face as the wannabe mounted the dying boy from behind shoving the boy into the mud making sure he never breathed again, sucking the air out of him cursing him as the boy took his last breath in the grass with the guy who had chased him triumphantly bragging about his good deeds?

Sorry, but I can't shake the picture of GZ straddling him as the teen gasped for his last breath. No CPR Mounted from behind pressing his arms apart and the boys face in the mud. Suffocating him. No remorse. Bragged about it on TV. Said it was gods plan.

No offense to the GZ lovers, but GZ is a pathological liar, coward, freak, .... You guys who admire him cause he used his gun in self defense? What about before and after the act? What about no CPR?

 

[25Caliber]

You call it smoke and mirrors...I call it a logical response from someone being followed. Why is it so clear and acceptable to you that MR Z be suspicsious of Trayvon, but on the other hand you cant understand how someone might be creeped out and irritated that someone is following him in the dark and rain?

For the life of me I cant see why so many cant empathize with that.

I don't understand someone claiming to be afraid and creeped out confronting the person he or she is afraid of.

I don't empathize for one reason. Before, I felt a bit bad about the whole thing. Wanna know who turned me off? My daddy always said birds of a feather flock together. RACHEL is the one that made me see Trayvon in a different light. I was already a bit surprised at the REAL pics of him flashing the gang signs and flipping the bird and acting all ghetto. But RACHEL was his friend and they hung out A LOT. And look at Rachel and her attitude. What makes you think Trayvon did not have the SAME ATTITUDE when he confronted Zimmerman?

So explain that in laymans terms. You may sway me back to thinking poor little pony riding Trayvon was not acting like an idiot along with Zimmerman. But don't hold your breath.

Actually, I believe he may very well have had that attitude...I would be willing to bet that he did. But that doesnt excuse the fact that he is being followed in the dark and rain...in a truck the entire complex and then on foot.

Im just trying to get people to see what could have been going through his mind. If he is a thug...okay great...then GZ is following the wrong person in the dark. What gets me is that GZ got the same impression, yet he gets out of his truck and initially runs after him...and then according to his own words with Sean Hannity was continuing after him to "keep an eye on him" to give a better location to police.

When GZ saw that the kid was irritated or wondering why he was being followed it was incumbent upon GZ to use his brain and understand why that would irritate the kid and at least try and defuse the situation. The problem was he had made up his mind that this kid was up to no good and that the kid was in the wrong. I beg to differ...so far it is GZ in the wrong to that point...the kid did no crime...he was creepily following someone. His intentions were in the right place, but the person he is following doesnt know what his intentions are...do you see my point, gracie? Please tell me you do...please just one person is all I ask...lol.

 

[Missourian]

I don't know why Zimmerman is a pathological liar. But he is. Already proven, he was found guilty of lying about the money folks were donating to him to the Judge. He lied about his father on his application for police officer. Many many lies. Justified? I look at him, I listen to what he says.. and I see a pathological liar. Murderer? Nah. Wannabe.. coward, liar, ...ayup guy killed a teem to save himself from a couple slaps. Invol. Manslaughter.

Pathological liar??? Come ON! He called his dad a judge instead of a magistrate on an application? He lied about his finances so he could get out on bond and have something left over to support his wife and save his home from foreclosure? Give me a break!

Just wait until Martin's character is brought up by the Defense. I mean, there is some shit there that will have people wanting to dig him up and put him on trial.

Judge, Jury, and Executioner? George was wreck-less. The teen died due to George' wreck-less actions. Open and shut case for the lesser charge of invol. manslaughter. Self defense does not excuse George' wreck-less actions.

Laid out and put to rest...repeatedly.

I get it...facts can't overcome your prejudice.

It's ok...irrational biases are hard to shake.

 

[Godboy]

OK, but how else could it be if not that in the case of, gunman Zimmerman vs. unarmed Trayvon?

there are a few scenarios and you are hearing about them from the prosecution's witnesses. zimmerman started it, martin got the best of him and in the heat of the fight he went too far and zimmerman reasonably feared for his life.....zimmerman didn't start it....etc

Let's stop right there...

That being the case, wasn't Trayvon defending himself in fear of HIS life? Which ultimately got taken as we all know. So it turns out he had the right fear and was justified in fighting to the death.

Do you agree?

Yes, I agree. I always assume any strangers I see are trying to kill me, therefore I maul them on sight. Better to be safe than sorry, right?

 

[RKMBrown]

Pathological liar??? Come ON! He called his dad a judge instead of a magistrate on an application? He lied about his finances so he could get out on bond and have something left over to support his wife and save his home from foreclosure? Give me a break!

Just wait until Martin's character is brought up by the Defense. I mean, there is some shit there that will have people wanting to dig him up and put him on trial.

Judge, Jury, and Executioner? George was wreck-less. The teen died due to George' wreck-less actions. Open and shut case for the lesser charge of invol. manslaughter. Self defense does not excuse George' wreck-less actions.

The kid died because he attacked a man with a gun. simple as that.

Accused of attacking the man with the gun. Accused by his killer.

 

[RKMBrown]

Pathological liar??? Come ON! He called his dad a judge instead of a magistrate on an application? He lied about his finances so he could get out on bond and have something left over to support his wife and save his home from foreclosure? Give me a break!

Just wait until Martin's character is brought up by the Defense. I mean, there is some shit there that will have people wanting to dig him up and put him on trial.

Judge, Jury, and Executioner? George was wreck-less. The teen died due to George' wreck-less actions. Open and shut case for the lesser charge of invol. manslaughter. Self defense does not excuse George' wreck-less actions.

Laid out and put to rest...repeatedly.

I get it...facts can't overcome your prejudice.

It's ok...irrational biases are hard to shake.

Huh? George' admitted to his wreck-less actions. It's on tape. Open and shut.

 

[25Caliber]

Pathological liar??? Come ON! He called his dad a judge instead of a magistrate on an application? He lied about his finances so he could get out on bond and have something left over to support his wife and save his home from foreclosure? Give me a break!

Just wait until Martin's character is brought up by the Defense. I mean, there is some shit there that will have people wanting to dig him up and put him on trial.

Judge, Jury, and Executioner? George was wreck-less. The teen died due to George' wreck-less actions. Open and shut case for the lesser charge of invol. manslaughter. Self defense does not excuse George' wreck-less actions.

The kid died because he attacked a man with a gun. simple as that.

But why did the man with a gun get attacked...did Trayvon follow GZ all the way thru the complex? No....GZ followed him...lol. Low and behold by the time he got to the end of his walk, he finally said something because he was clearly irritated and with good freaking reason. How about you walk down the street at night and I slowly follow behind you in my truck...Then when you speed your walk up and I can no longer follow in my truck...I get out of my truck and follow you on foot...and all your doing is returning from the store?

 

[KissMy]

He didn't "act properly" at all. He wasn't a Law Enforcement Officer and there are laws against following and menacing others. Most Neighborhood Watch Folks are cautioned against patrolling armed as well, for obvious reasons. He had zero standing to do what he did when he got out of his car and followed a frightened kid. And it seems that he didn't have the proper training to handle the situation.

It's also becoming more and more clear that he had an agenda. And that agenda was to hunt and kill a human being.

You made that stupid shit up. You must be on crack!

Zimmerman was not menacing or Trayvon would have said so to DeeDee. There is no law against following, reporting or asking questions & it does not make him the aggressor or the one who started the fight. The aggressor & fight starter is the one who makes the first strike or attempt to injure someone. There is no evidence, witness or marks on TM's body to indicate GZ was ever the aggressor of fight starter.

You mean other than the bullet in his chest and mud in his face as the wannabe mounted the dying boy from behind shoving the boy into the mud making sure he never breathed again, sucking the air out of him cursing him as the boy took his last breath in the grass with the guy who had chased him triumphantly bragging about his good deeds?

Sorry, but I can't shake the picture of GZ straddling him as the teen gasped for his last breath. No CPR Mounted from behind pressing his arms apart and the boys face in the mud. Suffocating him. No remorse. Bragged about it on TV. Said it was gods plan.

GZ is a pathological liar, coward, freak, ....

More crackpot bullshit. GZ never bragged about fighting or killing TM. He was trying to diffuse riots, attacks & revenge killings started by lies told about him by NBC. He was shocked TM was dead.

 

[RKMBrown]

The defense here is "self defense" If the jury decides Zimmerman acted in self defense, he is innocent. Self defense is, by definition justifiable homicide.

I suppose they could convict for involuntary MS, but it would never survive an appeal.

Yeah the only way they get 2nd degree is if they get the pathological liar up on the stand to brag about what he did.

Do you have anything like pertinent facts to bring to the discussion?

The pertinent facts are.. GZ killed the teen. Admitted it. The actions appear to be in self defense based on GZ apparently refusing to put up ANY OTHER DEFENSE. Apparently killing the kid was the only type of defense GZ could muster. Nothing else. He put himself in that position, wrecklessly. Admitted it. Got out of the truck to follow, armed, admitted it. GZ did not drag him out to the T. GZ went there ARMED in the middle of the night.

Open and shut.

 

[RKMBrown]

You made that stupid shit up. You must be on crack!

Zimmerman was not menacing or Trayvon would have said so to DeeDee. There is no law against following, reporting or asking questions & it does not make him the aggressor or the one who started the fight. The aggressor & fight starter is the one who makes the first strike or attempt to injure someone. There is no evidence, witness or marks on TM's body to indicate GZ was ever the aggressor of fight starter.

You mean other than the bullet in his chest and mud in his face as the wannabe mounted the dying boy from behind shoving the boy into the mud making sure he never breathed again, sucking the air out of him cursing him as the boy took his last breath in the grass with the guy who had chased him triumphantly bragging about his good deeds?

Sorry, but I can't shake the picture of GZ straddling him as the teen gasped for his last breath. No CPR Mounted from behind pressing his arms apart and the boys face in the mud. Suffocating him. No remorse. Bragged about it on TV. Said it was gods plan.

GZ is a pathological liar, coward, freak, ....

More crackpot bullshit. GZ never bragged about fighting or killing TM. He was trying to diffuse riots, attacks & revenge killings started by lies told about him by NBC. He was shocked TM was dead.

Shocked? He shot him in the chest. What did he think was gonna happen?

Here, no regrets, NONE:



Give him a gun and he'll go kill some more. God's plan. His words not mine.

 

[Ernie S.]

Judge, Jury, and Executioner? George was wreck-less. The teen died due to George' wreck-less actions. Open and shut case for the lesser charge of invol. manslaughter. Self defense does not excuse George' wreck-less actions.

The kid died because he attacked a man with a gun. simple as that.

Accused of attacking the man with the gun. Accused by his killer.

Got any PROOF that it went down differently, or only another emotional demand for justice for another black thug?

Shit! I forgot, you aren't worried about dead black kids unless they were killed by a white dude.

I don't even need to respond to your posts anymore. You are making my case for me.

 

[TheOldSchool]

I don't believe he shouldn't.

I assume that should read 'I don't believe he should, and don't believe he will.'

That's my vote. I don't think it would be in his best interests.

I'm glad someone caught that. That's what I would've voted too.

 

[Gracie]

You call it smoke and mirrors...I call it a logical response from someone being followed. Why is it so clear and acceptable to you that MR Z be suspicsious of Trayvon, but on the other hand you cant understand how someone might be creeped out and irritated that someone is following him in the dark and rain?

For the life of me I cant see why so many cant empathize with that.

I don't understand someone claiming to be afraid and creeped out confronting the person he or she is afraid of.

I don't empathize for one reason. Before, I felt a bit bad about the whole thing. Wanna know who turned me off? My daddy always said birds of a feather flock together. RACHEL is the one that made me see Trayvon in a different light. I was already a bit surprised at the REAL pics of him flashing the gang signs and flipping the bird and acting all ghetto. But RACHEL was his friend and they hung out A LOT. And look at Rachel and her attitude. What makes you think Trayvon did not have the SAME ATTITUDE when he confronted Zimmerman?

So explain that in laymans terms. You may sway me back to thinking poor little pony riding Trayvon was not acting like an idiot along with Zimmerman. But don't hold your breath.

Actually, I believe he may very well have had that attitude...I would be willing to bet that he did. But that doesnt excuse the fact that he is being followed in the dark and rain...in a truck the entire complex and then on foot.

Im just trying to get people to see what could have been going through his mind. If he is a thug...okay great...then GZ is following the wrong person in the dark. What gets me is that GZ got the same impression, yet he gets out of his truck and initially runs after him...and then according to his own words with Sean Hannity was continuing after him to "keep an eye on him" to give a better location to police.

When GZ saw that the kid was irritated or wondering why he was being followed it was incumbent upon GZ to use his brain and understand why that would irritate the kid and at least try and defuse the situation. The problem was he had made up his mind that this kid was up to no good and that the kid was in the wrong. I beg to differ...so far it is GZ in the wrong to that point...the kid did no crime...he was creepily following someone. His intentions were in the right place, but the person he is following doesnt know what his intentions are...do you see my point, gracie? Please tell me you do...please just one person is all I ask...lol.

I see your point but cannot get past my own point. See the red above that you stated. I, too, would have already came to the conclusion that zimmerman did if I lived in that neighborhood and the majority of the crimes being committed was by blacks and I didn't recognize this guy who probably had a major attitude to boot. People make mistakes. Including both that "kid" and wannabe cop Zimmerman. People like RACHEL make me want to barf and Martin was best buds with her. For all we know, she urged him to go get the cracker. It wouldn't surprise me if she did. But she damn sure isn't going to admit it, now is she?

All conjecture. And prosecution has to prove their case. So far, all they have proven is there are a shitload of teen blacks who want to kill crackers and have fellow teens wanting to do the same now. Kill a cracker. Problem is, the idiots now know Z is not a cracker. He is hispanic. Does that stop them from their stupid ass threats? Nope. Which shows their mentality. And THAT, 25caliber, is what got Zimmerman to do what he did in following someone he was suspicious of.

 

[Missourian]

You call it smoke and mirrors...I call it a logical response from someone being followed. Why is it so clear and acceptable to you that MR Z be suspicsious of Trayvon, but on the other hand you cant understand how someone might be creeped out and irritated that someone is following him in the dark and rain?

For the life of me I cant see why so many cant empathize with that.

I don't understand someone claiming to be afraid and creeped out confronting the person he or she is afraid of.

I don't empathize for one reason. Before, I felt a bit bad about the whole thing. Wanna know who turned me off? My daddy always said birds of a feather flock together. RACHEL is the one that made me see Trayvon in a different light. I was already a bit surprised at the REAL pics of him flashing the gang signs and flipping the bird and acting all ghetto. But RACHEL was his friend and they hung out A LOT. And look at Rachel and her attitude. What makes you think Trayvon did not have the SAME ATTITUDE when he confronted Zimmerman?

So explain that in laymans terms. You may sway me back to thinking poor little pony riding Trayvon was not acting like an idiot along with Zimmerman. But don't hold your breath.

Actually, I believe he may very well have had that attitude...I would be willing to bet that he did. But that doesnt excuse the fact that he is being followed in the dark and rain...in a truck the entire complex and then on foot.

Im just trying to get people to see what could have been going through his mind. If he is a thug...okay great...then GZ is following the wrong person in the dark. What gets me is that GZ got the same impression, yet he gets out of his truck and initially runs after him...and then according to his own words with Sean Hannity was continuing after him to "keep an eye on him" to give a better location to police.

When GZ saw that the kid was irritated or wondering why he was being followed it was incumbent upon GZ to use his brain and understand why that would irritate the kid. The problem was he had made up his mind that this kid was up to know good and that the kid was in the wrong. I beg to differ...so far it is GZ in the wrong to that point...the kid did no crime...he was creepily following someone.

And in Zimmerman's mind he suspected he understood exactly what was irritating Martin...that Zimmerman was keeping an eye on him.

So he came over to grit on Zimmerman...tryng to intimidate him, to keep Zimmerman from following him...suspicious character Martin...the guy who was scoping out houses in the dark...in the rain...

That didn't work...he saw the dude get out of his car to see what Martin was up to...so Martin ran around the corner, making sure the white dude could see which path he took, and hid, hoping to ambush Zimmerman and teach him a lesson.

But Zimmerman didn't go up the path...and when Martin sees Zimmerman was going to leave without following that path at all he called out to him.

"Hey, you got a problem?!?"

This gave Martin time to close the distance...he was going to get this crazy ass cracker, make an example out of him.

"No, no problem." Says Zimmerman.

BAM! Martin sucker punches Zimmerman!

Then leaps on top of him.

Zimmerman struggles to get away.

This is better than Martin could possibly imagine!

He was getting his payback and this little bitch was screaming for help like a pussy.

Martin gets on top of Zimmerman...how dare this cracka not give him respect.

Now he was going to get a beat down, the kind of beat down whitey deserved for diss'n him.

Wholey fucking shit...whiteys got a gun!

The End.

How's that for imagination and rampant speculation.

 

[RKMBrown]

Seriously this GZ guy is a young Charles Manson. No regrets, would not do anything different, gods plan... He's talking like he took out the trash.

 

[Gracie]

I don't understand someone claiming to be afraid and creeped out confronting the person he or she is afraid of.

I don't empathize for one reason. Before, I felt a bit bad about the whole thing. Wanna know who turned me off? My daddy always said birds of a feather flock together. RACHEL is the one that made me see Trayvon in a different light. I was already a bit surprised at the REAL pics of him flashing the gang signs and flipping the bird and acting all ghetto. But RACHEL was his friend and they hung out A LOT. And look at Rachel and her attitude. What makes you think Trayvon did not have the SAME ATTITUDE when he confronted Zimmerman?

So explain that in laymans terms. You may sway me back to thinking poor little pony riding Trayvon was not acting like an idiot along with Zimmerman. But don't hold your breath.

Actually, I believe he may very well have had that attitude...I would be willing to bet that he did. But that doesnt excuse the fact that he is being followed in the dark and rain...in a truck the entire complex and then on foot.

Im just trying to get people to see what could have been going through his mind. If he is a thug...okay great...then GZ is following the wrong person in the dark. What gets me is that GZ got the same impression, yet he gets out of his truck and initially runs after him...and then according to his own words with Sean Hannity was continuing after him to "keep an eye on him" to give a better location to police.

When GZ saw that the kid was irritated or wondering why he was being followed it was incumbent upon GZ to use his brain and understand why that would irritate the kid. The problem was he had made up his mind that this kid was up to know good and that the kid was in the wrong. I beg to differ...so far it is GZ in the wrong to that point...the kid did no crime...he was creepily following someone.

And in Zimmerman's mind he suspected he understood exactly was irritating Martin...that Zimmerman was keeping an eye on him.

So he came over to grit on Zimmerman...tryng to intimidate him, to keep Zimmerman from following him...leaving suspicious character Martin...thew guy who was scoping out houses in the dark...in the rain.

And so he ran around the corner where Zimmerman could see which path he took, and hid, hoping to ambush Zimmerman and teach him a lesson.

But Zimmerman didn't go up the path...and when Martin sees Zimmerman was going to leave without following that path at all he called out to him.

"Hey, you got a problem?!?"

This gave Martin time to close the distance...he was going to get this crazy ass cracker, make an example out of him.

"No, no problem." Says Zimmerman.

BAM! Martin sucker punches Zimmerman!

Then leaps on top of him.

Zimmerman struggles to get away.

This is better than Martin could possibly imagine!

He was getting his payback and this little bitch was screaming for help like a pussy.

Martin gets on top of Zimmerman...how dare this cracka not give him respect.

Now he was going to get a beat down, the kind of beat down whitey deserved for diss'n him.

Wholey fucking shit...whiteys got a gun!

The End.

How's that for imagination and rampant speculation.

Well hells bells. Now I owe TWO big fat reps. I still have to spread some around so I'll do it as soon as I can.

 

[Ernie S.]

Judge, Jury, and Executioner? George was wreck-less. The teen died due to George' wreck-less actions. Open and shut case for the lesser charge of invol. manslaughter. Self defense does not excuse George' wreck-less actions.

The kid died because he attacked a man with a gun. simple as that.

But why did the man with a gun get attacked...did Trayvon follow GZ all the way thru the complex? No....GZ followed him...lol. Low and behold by the time he got to the end of his walk, he finally said something because he was clearly irritated and with good freaking reason. How about you walk down the street at night and I slowly follow behind you in my truck...Then when you speed your walk up and I can no longer follow in my truck...I get out of my truck and follow you on foot...and all your doing is returning from the store?

conjecture

 

[RKMBrown]

The kid died because he attacked a man with a gun. simple as that.

Accused of attacking the man with the gun. Accused by his killer.

Got any PROOF that it went down differently, or only another emotional demand for justice for another black thug?

Shit! I forgot, you aren't worried about dead black kids unless they were killed by a white dude.

I don't even need to respond to your posts anymore. You are making my case for me.

I don't need any proof GZ provided it for the jury to listen too. Bragged about it to the cops. Bragged about it to the press. Wreck-less endangerment, resulting in death. Open and shut.