The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

[Quantum Windbag]

There's two parts to this.

First, the injuries to the back of Zimmerman's head weren't significant. As in, if someone were physically slamming the head into the concrete multiple times, the expectation would be that the trauma would be moderate to severe. That's not the case.

Second, that sort of action requires a person to grab the head. Martin had no hair, so in order to get a firm grip to do something like that, you'd need to claw the head. Bear in mind, it was raining that night, making his head slippery.

Zimmerman was very clear about this. He said Martin "grabbed" his head, and slammed it into the concrete.

The evidence simply does not support that.

you dont have to "grab" a head to make it hit the ground..... and when you grab someone you do not always scratch them with our nails..

lol.. looks like the head moves to me

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Zimmerman stated that Martin grabbed his head.

Was Zimmerman lying?

Yes or no?

Ever been in a fight? If yes, describe it in exact detail, and remember that getting one small detail wrong proves you are a lying sack of shit.

 

[Sallow]

Sallow, weren't you you one of jurors on the first OJ trial?

"If the glove don't fit you can't convict!"

Stick with the Zimmerman case, buddy.

Keep grasping at straws and ingore the greater picture.

No DNA on St. Trayvon's nails! No DNA on the gun!

Zimmerman must be guilty!

Zimmerman shot Martin.

He states that his life was in danger and that required deadly force.

So far?

The facts..as in the evidence..don't seem to back that up.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

None of Martin's dna on the gun either. Didn't Zimmerman claim that Martin grabbed his gun?

Believe it or not, touching something does not transfer DNA every single time. Then we have the fact that every single state's witness has testified that it was pouring that night, and that the gun got washed by the rain after the shooting, and you are left looking incredibly stupid for pointing out that there is no DNA on the gun.

 

[Sunshine]

Sorry. I just thought the statement SCOTUS law defines right & wrong was funny. I thought their job, primarily, was to determine the constitutionality of federal and state laws. Right and wrong... not so much.

You should not think. You are inept at thinking and your repeated failed attempts only bring embarrassment for you.

You are sooo hot in that new avatar.

You are never hot in anything.

 

[Edgetho]

DNA is circumstantial evidence.

Does that make you feel better about things?

No, it's reality. I'm sorry if that upsets you.

Most evidence is circumstantial.

You see a man walk into a house with a gun and hear a loud 'BANG' and a couple minutes later, the same man walks out with the gun still smoking.

The Cops later discover a victim dead of a gunshot wound.

What you saw was circumstantial evidence.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Court is in recess until 8:30 am Friday morning.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Does that make you feel better about things?

No, it's reality. I'm sorry if that upsets you.

Most evidence is circumstantial.

You see a man walk into a house with a gun and hear a loud 'BANG' and a couple minutes later, the same man walks out with the gun still smoking.

The Cops later discover a victim dead of a gunshot wound.

What you saw was circumstantial evidence.

I understand that. Too bad Sarah doesn't.

 

[Sallow]

That's almost the shootin' match.


There's little evidence now that Martin "grabbed" Zimmerman head and slammed it into the concrete.

Hence the dispelling of one of the major Zimmerman's lies.

Zimmerman claims that his dna was under Martin's nails?



Seek help.

No.

Zimmerman claims that Martin "grabbed" his head and "slammed" it into the ground with sufficient force as to justify using deadly force to stop the attack.

That has not been proven by the evidence.

You folks seem to think you can kill people with a gun out in the streets and claim self defense, on basically a whim.

That's not the standard. Even in a racist state like Florida.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

None of Martin's dna on the gun either. Didn't Zimmerman claim that Martin grabbed his gun?

Keep trying to convict----er I mean.. trying to make sure all the evidence is taken into consideration.

He's claiming self-defense therefore the burden is on him to prove it was self-defense.

The burden in a criminal case is always on the state, not the defendant. The state has to prove that what Zimmerman did was with malice and a depraved mind to prove murder, good luck with that when everything the state puts on actually corroborates Zimmerman.

 

[wharfrat]

The jurors will be drunk within fifteen minutes of leaving the courthouse. Not a one will remember specifics of the last few hours of testimony, other than that it made them want to drink to forget.

 

[Sunshine]

OK, the Zimmerman trial is now booooooooriiiiiiing. State ain't got nuttin' but defense witnesses. Defense don't need nuttin'. This debacle has to be the biggest waste of money since the Titanic.

Somebody's reality check is in the mail!

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

Recess until Friday, 8:30 ET.

 

[Sallow]

You mean besides this, right?

Both injuries are minor.

It doesn't matter if the injuries were minor or not, all that matters is whether Zimmerman acted under the legal definition of self defense, which does not require you to wait to get shot in order to shoot back anywhere in the world.

Martin wasn't armed.

 

[Sunshine]

The jurors will be drunk within fifteen minutes of leaving the courthouse. Not a one will remember specifics of the last few hours of testimony, other than that it made them want to drink to forget.

Are you insinuating it has done anything other than make people want to drink to forget? Seriously?

 

[Sallow]

you can also argue that martin found zimmerman and attacked.

Right. But again, with a self-defense defense, the burden is on Zimmerman to prove it was self-defense.

he has an eye witness to martin sitting on top of him beating him up.

That's correct.

And there are witnesses that testified that at some points in the struggle Zimmerman was on top.

It seems the fight was not as one sided as Zimmerman is leading everyone to believe.

 

[Edgetho]

No, it's reality. I'm sorry if that upsets you.

Most evidence is circumstantial.

You see a man walk into a house with a gun and hear a loud 'BANG' and a couple minutes later, the same man walks out with the gun still smoking.

The Cops later discover a victim dead of a gunshot wound.

What you saw was circumstantial evidence.

I understand that. Too bad Sarah doesn't.

Maybe you two should get a room?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

He's claiming self-defense therefore the burden is on him to prove it was self-defense.

zimmerman has injuries, regardless of now minor consistent with his version of events.

an eye witness puts martin on top beating up on the person under him.

But that doesn't mean that Martin started the fight, if true. It merely means that at one point in time Martin may have had the upper hand in defending himself.

It doesn't matter if the state brings in 10,000 witnesses that Zimmerman started the fight if Martin was trying to kill Zimmerman.

 

[wharfrat]

The jurors will be drunk within fifteen minutes of leaving the courthouse. Not a one will remember specifics of the last few hours of testimony, other than that it made them want to drink to forget.

Are you insinuating it has done anything other than make people want to drink to forget? Seriously?

Good point.

 

[Sallow]

call the state's attorneys and have them run with it.

No need.

They are..

Which actually proves they are dumber than you.

This is the first insult in the thread in this exchange.

It's from you to me.

Lets get that straight before moving on, okay?

 

[syrenn]

Right. But again, with a self-defense defense, the burden is on Zimmerman to prove it was self-defense.

he has an eye witness to martin sitting on top of him beating him up.

And again, no witness as to who started the fight.

and again... we have a witness of marting on top of zimmerman.


it all depends on who you want to believe and what versions of events you want to believe, ravi.