The One Question No One So Far Can Answer

[Ame®icano]

Where is that evidence of collusion?

No evidence - Deputy AG said it, AG said it, Clapper said it, it only exist in butthurt leftist heads that can't get over the fact they lost the elections fair and square.

You want collusion of interfering with the elections? Here is one, collusion between Democrats and leftist media.

Do you think before you post, or only emote?

Q. What evidence is there of collusion?

A. Evidence is the product of an investigation, as most everyone but you seem to understand.

An allegation wherein a mob yells in unison, "Lock her Up" is not what anyone is now doing; the effort by the Senate Minority Leader is to put a flashlight on the question: Did Trump or his surrogates collude with the Russian Government to win his election?

If evidence of collusion is product of an investigation, how can you talk about collusion if there hasn't been an investigation?

LOL, are you tying to be funny?

It seems you got the point. Why don't you answer than?

When a crime is committed, what happens first? LE is called, and LE begins to investigate. That is what is on going, and that is what will lead to a conclusion.

What is a crime that's committed? Under what statute?

 

[Ame®icano]

What crime was committed, asshole?

Logan Act, Cyber Terrorism, Computer Intrusion, Intercepting Communications, and Conspiracy to aid and abet the previous four crimes.

What happened when you woke up?

 

[Ame®icano]

I'm talking about the election. You honestly believed at the time that the wikileaks revelations would do NO HARM WHATSOEVER to Hillary's chances of winning?

Most Americans had made up their minds, snowflakes were going to vote Democrat no matter what. There wasn't much revealed that people did not already know or did not surprise them about democrats.

Hillary was the worst candidate in US history...that's the real problem with Hillary, not what was released about her.

To begin with, her name should never have been allowed on the ballot on election day anyway for being under MULTIPLE FBI investigations for crimes to conclude ESPIONAGE just days before the election.

As has been since revealed, Trump was also under investigation.

Some were, I wasn't. That's where your assertion of unanimity reveals a fatal flaw in your "reasoning" process. I declared several times that she would never be indicted because she was too connected and knew where the bodies were buried. A less well connected person, however, would have been.

I'm talking about the election. You honestly believed at the time that the wikileaks revelations would do NO HARM WHATSOEVER to Hillary's chances of winning?

I knew she was a terrible candidate and I HOPED they would help keep her out of the White House. I did not, however, think they alone would cause enough problems to derail her attempt to stumble to the throne. Given what I saw from her partisans on this board, you would have thought the only issue was that someone broke into the DNC's computers, and the emails themselves were inconsequential. Apparently, they were very wrong.

Lesson learned, secure your data. Even better, don't keep stupidity around to be found.

1. Don't put classified information on an unclassified, unencrypted computer.

2. Don't use 'password' as your password

3. Don't give access to e-mails / information / usernames/passwords to the information to those who don't have clearances, need to know, etc...like maids and terrorist-connected Pakistani Spies under investigation for espionage.

So you think burglars are innocent if you left your front door unlocked?

Goddam that's funny.

And what's even worse, is the whole thing is a regurgitated LIE....Podesta never used the word Password, as his password...s

so THAT never happened in the first place I read yesterday on a fact checker

 

[Ame®icano]

Since the scenario you described is a 100% fabrication, what's the point?

Isn't that scenario what you folks are calling treason?

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P.S. I'm not calling it Treason....none of this reaches the level of Treason itself, imo....

it's more traitorous than treasonous imho, IF speculations are true.

Russia already had the material that was released, coordinating to effect the election is no more criminal than many of the dirty tricks used by people in the US. One thing you can say about Wikileaks is what they released was true. The same can't be said about US candidates and the news organizations that publicized their lies. Like what ever happened to the bimbo avalanche against Trump? They seem to have vanished as quickly as they appeared.

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No, testimony came out that said that..... you DO NOT KNOW THAT about wikileaks, and that most of what was released could have been true, but there were insertions in to the leaked emails that were not true.

How would you know that? Did Podesta ever produce any emails that demonstrated the Wikileaks version was wrong? No, of course, not. You're obviously full of shit.

AND the articles that were highlighted by wikileaks did not include all emails regarding the topics they highlighted and had Russian initiated stories spread to the right wing media within hours or minutes of their releases by wiki leaks.....

Wikileaks published what they had. How would you even know what emails were missing? What "Russia initiated stories" are you talking about? Admit that you are just making this crap up.

Like they highlighted the memo where Hillary asked about Parkinson disease, and the stories regurgitated in the right wing and social media was that Hillary HAD Parkinson's disease and was sick and was dying etc etc etc....

They did not included the emails of why she was asking about Parkinson's in the first place...so they could regurgitate their initial fake story....

they inserted an email that claimed Cain was picked as VP a year before he was picked, which was fake....

How do you know these emails exist? How do you know the email regarding Cain was fake? Do you expect anyone to believe this horseshit?

She said Russia... Reeee

There is evidence Seth Rich had contact with WikiLeaks prior to death

 

[Ame®icano]

 

[Care4all]

money laundering and not disclosing being agents of a foreign power are the 2 probable charges that could come out of the investigation...I'm not certain on the coordination thing yet....mainly because they could have some how been fooled by the Russian friendliness....like Carter Paige....he seems like he's just 'out there' and unaware...

though there seems to be the case of a quid pro quo with the Russians, changing the Republican platform to what the Russians wanted them to change it to, in exchange for going after hillary with the hacking and dissemination of the stolen goods?

I think what is taking so long is not the collusion, for the FBI to build or drop a case on that collusion should not take that long....

But it is to build a case and cracking a big Russian money laundering case....this takes time, and maybe some on the Trump team have merely lead them in to finding it?

 

[OKTexas]

money laundering and not disclosing being agents of a foreign power are the 2 probable charges that could come out of the investigation...I'm not certain on the coordination thing yet....mainly because they could have some how been fooled by the Russian friendliness....like Carter Paige....he seems like he's just 'out there' and unaware...

though there seems to be the case of a quid pro quo with the Russians, changing the Republican platform to what the Russians wanted them to change it to, in exchange for going after hillary with the hacking and dissemination of the stolen goods?

I think what is taking so long is not the collusion, for the FBI to build or drop a case on that collusion should not take that long....

But it is to build a case and cracking a big Russian money laundering case....this takes time, and maybe some on the Trump team have merely lead them in to finding it?

Wouldn't a money laundering case be separate form a counterintelligence case? Two totally different skill sets.

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[Care4all]

money laundering and not disclosing being agents of a foreign power are the 2 probable charges that could come out of the investigation...I'm not certain on the coordination thing yet....mainly because they could have some how been fooled by the Russian friendliness....like Carter Paige....he seems like he's just 'out there' and unaware...

though there seems to be the case of a quid pro quo with the Russians, changing the Republican platform to what the Russians wanted them to change it to, in exchange for going after hillary with the hacking and dissemination of the stolen goods?

I think what is taking so long is not the collusion, for the FBI to build or drop a case on that collusion should not take that long....

But it is to build a case and cracking a big Russian money laundering case....this takes time, and maybe some on the Trump team have merely lead them in to finding it?

Wouldn't a money laundering case be separate form a counterintelligence case? Two totally different skill sets.

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no, I don't think so....counter intelligence agents are the best of the best...can handle where ever the investigation leads...

our Treasury Dept investigators may also be involved.

 

[Blackrook]

I've posed this hypothetical question to a couple of members and so far no one seems up to the task of providing an answer. So now I'm posing it the whole board.

Ok, here's a hypothetical scenario. Let's say a Trump associate spoke to a Russian representative. The Russian told him we have some really bad shit on the hildabitch and the representative said wow, it would sure help us if you released it on Tuesday and they did exactly that.

Tell me, what specific law would have been broken? Don't give me an opinion, quote the law.

Any takers?

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The Foreign Agents Registration Act:

The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) is a United States law (22 U.S.C. § 611 et seq.) passed in 1938 requiring that agents representing the interests of foreign powers in a "political or quasi-political capacity" disclose their relationship with the foreign government and information about related activities and finances. The purpose is to facilitate "evaluation by the government and the American people of the statements and activities of such persons." The law is administered by the FARA Registration Unit of the Counterespionage Section (CES) in the National Security Division (NSD) of the United States Department of Justice.[1] As of 2007 the Justice Department reported there were approximately 1,700 lobbyists representing more than 100 countries before Congress, the White House and the federal government.[2]

Foreign Agents Registration Act - Wikipedia

It's a technicality, but that's about all they could convict on.

 

[OKTexas]

money laundering and not disclosing being agents of a foreign power are the 2 probable charges that could come out of the investigation...I'm not certain on the coordination thing yet....mainly because they could have some how been fooled by the Russian friendliness....like Carter Paige....he seems like he's just 'out there' and unaware...

though there seems to be the case of a quid pro quo with the Russians, changing the Republican platform to what the Russians wanted them to change it to, in exchange for going after hillary with the hacking and dissemination of the stolen goods?

I think what is taking so long is not the collusion, for the FBI to build or drop a case on that collusion should not take that long....

But it is to build a case and cracking a big Russian money laundering case....this takes time, and maybe some on the Trump team have merely lead them in to finding it?

Wouldn't a money laundering case be separate form a counterintelligence case? Two totally different skill sets.

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no, I don't think so....counter intelligence agents are the best of the best...can handle where ever the investigation leads...

our Treasury Dept investigators may also be involved.

The FBI has money laundering and bank fraud specialist it's not really a counterintelligence thing.

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[OKTexas]

I've posed this hypothetical question to a couple of members and so far no one seems up to the task of providing an answer. So now I'm posing it the whole board.

Ok, here's a hypothetical scenario. Let's say a Trump associate spoke to a Russian representative. The Russian told him we have some really bad shit on the hildabitch and the representative said wow, it would sure help us if you released it on Tuesday and they did exactly that.

Tell me, what specific law would have been broken? Don't give me an opinion, quote the law.

Any takers?

.

The Foreign Agents Registration Act:

The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) is a United States law (22 U.S.C. § 611 et seq.) passed in 1938 requiring that agents representing the interests of foreign powers in a "political or quasi-political capacity" disclose their relationship with the foreign government and information about related activities and finances. The purpose is to facilitate "evaluation by the government and the American people of the statements and activities of such persons." The law is administered by the FARA Registration Unit of the Counterespionage Section (CES) in the National Security Division (NSD) of the United States Department of Justice.[1] As of 2007 the Justice Department reported there were approximately 1,700 lobbyists representing more than 100 countries before Congress, the White House and the federal government.[2]

Foreign Agents Registration Act - Wikipedia

It's a technicality, but that's about all they could convict on.

But what you have to ask yourself, were they representing the interest of a foreign power, or their own? They damn sure wasn't lobbying congress or the WH. That's assuming there was coordination of course, which at this point hasn't been publicly proven.

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[Blackrook]

I've posed this hypothetical question to a couple of members and so far no one seems up to the task of providing an answer. So now I'm posing it the whole board.

Ok, here's a hypothetical scenario. Let's say a Trump associate spoke to a Russian representative. The Russian told him we have some really bad shit on the hildabitch and the representative said wow, it would sure help us if you released it on Tuesday and they did exactly that.

Tell me, what specific law would have been broken? Don't give me an opinion, quote the law.

Any takers?

.

The Foreign Agents Registration Act:

The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) is a United States law (22 U.S.C. § 611 et seq.) passed in 1938 requiring that agents representing the interests of foreign powers in a "political or quasi-political capacity" disclose their relationship with the foreign government and information about related activities and finances. The purpose is to facilitate "evaluation by the government and the American people of the statements and activities of such persons." The law is administered by the FARA Registration Unit of the Counterespionage Section (CES) in the National Security Division (NSD) of the United States Department of Justice.[1] As of 2007 the Justice Department reported there were approximately 1,700 lobbyists representing more than 100 countries before Congress, the White House and the federal government.[2]

Foreign Agents Registration Act - Wikipedia

It's a technicality, but that's about all they could convict on.

But what you have to ask yourself, were they representing the interest of a foreign power, or their own? They damn sure wasn't lobbying congress or the WH. That's assuming there was coordination of course, which at this point hasn't been publicly proven.

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It's something they could charge a person with, I didn't say it would stick.

 

[Care4all]

money laundering and not disclosing being agents of a foreign power are the 2 probable charges that could come out of the investigation...I'm not certain on the coordination thing yet....mainly because they could have some how been fooled by the Russian friendliness....like Carter Paige....he seems like he's just 'out there' and unaware...

though there seems to be the case of a quid pro quo with the Russians, changing the Republican platform to what the Russians wanted them to change it to, in exchange for going after hillary with the hacking and dissemination of the stolen goods?

I think what is taking so long is not the collusion, for the FBI to build or drop a case on that collusion should not take that long....

But it is to build a case and cracking a big Russian money laundering case....this takes time, and maybe some on the Trump team have merely lead them in to finding it?

Wouldn't a money laundering case be separate form a counterintelligence case? Two totally different skill sets.

.

no, I don't think so....counter intelligence agents are the best of the best...can handle where ever the investigation leads...

our Treasury Dept investigators may also be involved.

The FBI has money laundering and bank fraud specialist it's not really a counterintelligence thing.

.

how do you think the Russians financed their entire operation?

 

[OKTexas]

money laundering and not disclosing being agents of a foreign power are the 2 probable charges that could come out of the investigation...I'm not certain on the coordination thing yet....mainly because they could have some how been fooled by the Russian friendliness....like Carter Paige....he seems like he's just 'out there' and unaware...

though there seems to be the case of a quid pro quo with the Russians, changing the Republican platform to what the Russians wanted them to change it to, in exchange for going after hillary with the hacking and dissemination of the stolen goods?

I think what is taking so long is not the collusion, for the FBI to build or drop a case on that collusion should not take that long....

But it is to build a case and cracking a big Russian money laundering case....this takes time, and maybe some on the Trump team have merely lead them in to finding it?

Wouldn't a money laundering case be separate form a counterintelligence case? Two totally different skill sets.

.

no, I don't think so....counter intelligence agents are the best of the best...can handle where ever the investigation leads...

our Treasury Dept investigators may also be involved.

The FBI has money laundering and bank fraud specialist it's not really a counterintelligence thing.

.

how do you think the Russians financed their entire operation?

Spare change, I mean what do a few geeks and computers cost now days? Especially when they are targeting dumb asses like the DNC and Podesta. The FBI warned the DNC of cyber attacks against them and they did nothing about it. A bunch of the email released was dated after the initial FBI warning. Podesta fell for a simple phishing scam. Only the US would spend substantial amounts of money on such a simple operation.

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[Care4all]

money laundering and not disclosing being agents of a foreign power are the 2 probable charges that could come out of the investigation...I'm not certain on the coordination thing yet....mainly because they could have some how been fooled by the Russian friendliness....like Carter Paige....he seems like he's just 'out there' and unaware...

though there seems to be the case of a quid pro quo with the Russians, changing the Republican platform to what the Russians wanted them to change it to, in exchange for going after hillary with the hacking and dissemination of the stolen goods?

I think what is taking so long is not the collusion, for the FBI to build or drop a case on that collusion should not take that long....

But it is to build a case and cracking a big Russian money laundering case....this takes time, and maybe some on the Trump team have merely lead them in to finding it?

Wouldn't a money laundering case be separate form a counterintelligence case? Two totally different skill sets.

.

no, I don't think so....counter intelligence agents are the best of the best...can handle where ever the investigation leads...

our Treasury Dept investigators may also be involved.

The FBI has money laundering and bank fraud specialist it's not really a counterintelligence thing.

.

how do you think the Russians financed their entire operation?

Spare change, I mean what do a few geeks and computers cost now days? Especially when they are targeting dumb asses like the DNC and Podesta. The FBI warned the DNC of cyber attacks against them and they did nothing about it. A bunch of the email released was dated after the initial FBI warning. Podesta fell for a simple phishing scam. Only the US would spend substantial amounts of money on such a simple operation.

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all partisan tripe....

try informing yourself on their whole operation...start with watching the congressional house and senate hearings in FULL...

 

[Care4all]

Maybe this is why Comey was fired?




FBI plans to create special unit to co-ordinate Russia probe


FBI plans to create special unit to co-ordinate Russia probe
Move would allow the agency’s director to have greater insight into the case

The FBI is planning to create a special section based at its Washington headquarters to co-ordinate its investigation of Russian activities designed to influence the 2016 presidential election, according to a person familiar with the plan. Sample the FT’s top stories for a week You select the topic, we deliver the news. Select topic Enter email address Invalid email By signing up you confirm that you have read and agree to the terms and conditions, cookie policy and privacy policy. The move, a sign of how seriously the bureau is taking allegations of Russian meddling in American politics, is also aimed at giving FBI director James Comey greater visibility into the investigation’s granular details. “It’s meant to surge resources,” said one FBI agent. Creation of the temporary unit mirrors the bureau’s approach to other sensitive investigations, including the WikiLeaks disclosure of classified US government documents and Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while secretary of state. The FBI generally prefers to run investigations from one of its 56 field offices, but the high-profile nature of the sprawling Russia inquiry is seen as requiring a central manager, according to current and former officials. “It’s getting unwieldy,” said one person briefed on the plan. “It’s too big and it’s on the front page of the newspaper every day.” An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment. Related article FBI confirms probe of Trump links to Russian campaign meddling ‘No information’ supporting claims Obama ordered wiretap, director tells Congress The bureau is expected to recall from the field an FBI counter-intelligence specialist to oversee the squad, which is to begin work next month. If the new team — with about 20 dedicated agents drawn from across the country — operates as similar units have in the past, its chief would brief Mr Comey on a weekly basis while providing daily updates for deputy director Andrew McCabe. “We did it quite regularly,” said Robert Anderson of Navigant, a business consulting group, who was a former executive assistant director of the FBI. “Any time there’s a big case, a giant case, it becomes a huge resource drain across the organisation.” Russian activities under investigation include alleged hacking into Democratic computer networks and reported contacts between Russians and representatives of the Trump campaign. Michael Flynn, the president’s national security adviser, was fired in February after allegedly lying to vice-president Mike Pence about conversations he had last year with Sergei Kislyak, Russian ambassador to the US. “The FBI, as part of our counter-intelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any co-ordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts,” Mr Comey told the House Intelligence Committee earlier this month. FBI investigators also will evaluate the potential for criminal charges in the Russia matter. But some investigators are pessimistic about the likelihood of making a case, given the difficulty of obtaining evidence from Russia. It’s getting unwieldy. It’s too big and it’s on the front page of the newspaper every day A person briefed on the plan “Unlike the CIA, we have to bring things that go, potentially, in front of a jury,” said one agent. “We have to certify evidence. A place like Russia is such a black hole. It’s so hard to prove you’re bringing evidence that hasn’t been tampered with.” As the FBI probe proceeds, both the Senate and House intelligence committees are pursuing their own Russia-related investigations. Republican Senator Richard Burr, who chairs the Senate panel, said on Wednesday that the committee was “looking anywhere intelligence suggests that there might have been any type of relationship of effort to influence US elections”. In an appearance on Wednesday night before an industry group, Mr Comey declined to discuss the investigation. But he said the FBI would follow the facts without regard for potential political consequences. “We’re not on anybody’s side, ever,” he said. “We’re not considering whose ox will be gored. We just don’t care.”

 

[Wyatt earp]

Maybe this is why Comey was fired?

Federal Bureau of Investigation
FBI plans to create special unit to co-ordinate Russia probe
Move would allow the agency’s director to have greater insight into the case

The FBI is planning to create a special section based at its Washington headquarters to co-ordinate its investigation of Russian activities designed to influence the 2016 presidential election, according to a person familiar with the plan. Sample the FT’s top stories for a week You select the topic, we deliver the news. Select topic Enter email address Invalid email By signing up you confirm that you have read and agree to the terms and conditions, cookie policy and privacy policy. The move, a sign of how seriously the bureau is taking allegations of Russian meddling in American politics, is also aimed at giving FBI director James Comey greater visibility into the investigation’s granular details. “It’s meant to surge resources,” said one FBI agent. Creation of the temporary unit mirrors the bureau’s approach to other sensitive investigations, including the WikiLeaks disclosure of classified US government documents and Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while secretary of state. The FBI generally prefers to run investigations from one of its 56 field offices, but the high-profile nature of the sprawling Russia inquiry is seen as requiring a central manager, according to current and former officials. “It’s getting unwieldy,” said one person briefed on the plan. “It’s too big and it’s on the front page of the newspaper every day.” An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment. Related article FBI confirms probe of Trump links to Russian campaign meddling ‘No information’ supporting claims Obama ordered wiretap, director tells Congress The bureau is expected to recall from the field an FBI counter-intelligence specialist to oversee the squad, which is to begin work next month. If the new team — with about 20 dedicated agents drawn from across the country — operates as similar units have in the past, its chief would brief Mr Comey on a weekly basis while providing daily updates for deputy director Andrew McCabe. “We did it quite regularly,” said Robert Anderson of Navigant, a business consulting group, who was a former executive assistant director of the FBI. “Any time there’s a big case, a giant case, it becomes a huge resource drain across the organisation.” Russian activities under investigation include alleged hacking into Democratic computer networks and reported contacts between Russians and representatives of the Trump campaign. Michael Flynn, the president’s national security adviser, was fired in February after allegedly lying to vice-president Mike Pence about conversations he had last year with Sergei Kislyak, Russian ambassador to the US. “The FBI, as part of our counter-intelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any co-ordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts,” Mr Comey told the House Intelligence Committee earlier this month. FBI investigators also will evaluate the potential for criminal charges in the Russia matter. But some investigators are pessimistic about the likelihood of making a case, given the difficulty of obtaining evidence from Russia. It’s getting unwieldy. It’s too big and it’s on the front page of the newspaper every day A person briefed on the plan “Unlike the CIA, we have to bring things that go, potentially, in front of a jury,” said one agent. “We have to certify evidence. A place like Russia is such a black hole. It’s so hard to prove you’re bringing evidence that hasn’t been tampered with.” As the FBI probe proceeds, both the Senate and House intelligence committees are pursuing their own Russia-related investigations. Republican Senator Richard Burr, who chairs the Senate panel, said on Wednesday that the committee was “looking anywhere intelligence suggests that there might have been any type of relationship of effort to influence US elections”. In an appearance on Wednesday night before an industry group, Mr Comey declined to discuss the investigation. But he said the FBI would follow the facts without regard for potential political consequences. “We’re not on anybody’s side, ever,” he said. “We’re not considering whose ox will be gored. We just don’t care.”

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[Care4all]

Maybe this is why Comey was fired?

Federal Bureau of Investigation
FBI plans to create special unit to co-ordinate Russia probe
Move would allow the agency’s director to have greater insight into the case

The FBI is planning to create a special section based at its Washington headquarters to co-ordinate its investigation of Russian activities designed to influence the 2016 presidential election, according to a person familiar with the plan. Sample the FT’s top stories for a week You select the topic, we deliver the news. Select topic Enter email address Invalid email By signing up you confirm that you have read and agree to the terms and conditions, cookie policy and privacy policy. The move, a sign of how seriously the bureau is taking allegations of Russian meddling in American politics, is also aimed at giving FBI director James Comey greater visibility into the investigation’s granular details. “It’s meant to surge resources,” said one FBI agent. Creation of the temporary unit mirrors the bureau’s approach to other sensitive investigations, including the WikiLeaks disclosure of classified US government documents and Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while secretary of state. The FBI generally prefers to run investigations from one of its 56 field offices, but the high-profile nature of the sprawling Russia inquiry is seen as requiring a central manager, according to current and former officials. “It’s getting unwieldy,” said one person briefed on the plan. “It’s too big and it’s on the front page of the newspaper every day.” An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment. Related article FBI confirms probe of Trump links to Russian campaign meddling ‘No information’ supporting claims Obama ordered wiretap, director tells Congress The bureau is expected to recall from the field an FBI counter-intelligence specialist to oversee the squad, which is to begin work next month. If the new team — with about 20 dedicated agents drawn from across the country — operates as similar units have in the past, its chief would brief Mr Comey on a weekly basis while providing daily updates for deputy director Andrew McCabe. “We did it quite regularly,” said Robert Anderson of Navigant, a business consulting group, who was a former executive assistant director of the FBI. “Any time there’s a big case, a giant case, it becomes a huge resource drain across the organisation.” Russian activities under investigation include alleged hacking into Democratic computer networks and reported contacts between Russians and representatives of the Trump campaign. Michael Flynn, the president’s national security adviser, was fired in February after allegedly lying to vice-president Mike Pence about conversations he had last year with Sergei Kislyak, Russian ambassador to the US. “The FBI, as part of our counter-intelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any co-ordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts,” Mr Comey told the House Intelligence Committee earlier this month. FBI investigators also will evaluate the potential for criminal charges in the Russia matter. But some investigators are pessimistic about the likelihood of making a case, given the difficulty of obtaining evidence from Russia. It’s getting unwieldy. It’s too big and it’s on the front page of the newspaper every day A person briefed on the plan “Unlike the CIA, we have to bring things that go, potentially, in front of a jury,” said one agent. “We have to certify evidence. A place like Russia is such a black hole. It’s so hard to prove you’re bringing evidence that hasn’t been tampered with.” As the FBI probe proceeds, both the Senate and House intelligence committees are pursuing their own Russia-related investigations. Republican Senator Richard Burr, who chairs the Senate panel, said on Wednesday that the committee was “looking anywhere intelligence suggests that there might have been any type of relationship of effort to influence US elections”. In an appearance on Wednesday night before an industry group, Mr Comey declined to discuss the investigation. But he said the FBI would follow the facts without regard for potential political consequences. “We’re not on anybody’s side, ever,” he said. “We’re not considering whose ox will be gored. We just don’t care.”

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i'm sorry! try this one....

FBI plans to create special unit to co-ordinate Russia probe

 

[OKTexas]

Wouldn't a money laundering case be separate form a counterintelligence case? Two totally different skill sets.

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no, I don't think so....counter intelligence agents are the best of the best...can handle where ever the investigation leads...

our Treasury Dept investigators may also be involved.

The FBI has money laundering and bank fraud specialist it's not really a counterintelligence thing.

.

how do you think the Russians financed their entire operation?

Spare change, I mean what do a few geeks and computers cost now days? Especially when they are targeting dumb asses like the DNC and Podesta. The FBI warned the DNC of cyber attacks against them and they did nothing about it. A bunch of the email released was dated after the initial FBI warning. Podesta fell for a simple phishing scam. Only the US would spend substantial amounts of money on such a simple operation.

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all partisan tripe....

try informing yourself on their whole operation...start with watching the congressional house and senate hearings in FULL...

I've watched a few of the hearings, Dems trying to score cheap points and republicans asking questions that can't be answered in an open forum. Watched the one with Comey and Rogers, and the one with Calper and Yates, didn't know a damn thing after I didn't know going in. Well except Comey verifying what everyone pretty much knew anyways.

BTW it's not all partisan hype.

(CNN)Federal investigators tried to warn the Democratic National Committee about a potential intrusion in their computer network months before the party moved to try to fix the problem, U.S. officials briefed on the probe tell CNN.

The revelation raises questions about whether the DNC could have done more to limit the damage done by hackers suspected of working for Russian intelligence.
The DNC brought in consultants from the private security firm CrowdStrike in April. And by the time suspected Russian hackers were kicked out of the DNC network in June, the hackers had been inside for about a year.

Sources: US officials warned DNC of hack months before the party acted - CNNPolitics.com

That means the Russins, if indeed it was them, had gained access to the DNC servers as early as April 2015, that was two months before Trump announced he was running. And had access a year before they hired Crowdstrike and they didn't get them out of their system till June 2016.

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[OKTexas]

Maybe this is why Comey was fired?

Federal Bureau of Investigation
FBI plans to create special unit to co-ordinate Russia probe
Move would allow the agency’s director to have greater insight into the case

The FBI is planning to create a special section based at its Washington headquarters to co-ordinate its investigation of Russian activities designed to influence the 2016 presidential election, according to a person familiar with the plan. Sample the FT’s top stories for a week You select the topic, we deliver the news. Select topic Enter email address Invalid email By signing up you confirm that you have read and agree to the terms and conditions, cookie policy and privacy policy. The move, a sign of how seriously the bureau is taking allegations of Russian meddling in American politics, is also aimed at giving FBI director James Comey greater visibility into the investigation’s granular details. “It’s meant to surge resources,” said one FBI agent. Creation of the temporary unit mirrors the bureau’s approach to other sensitive investigations, including the WikiLeaks disclosure of classified US government documents and Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while secretary of state. The FBI generally prefers to run investigations from one of its 56 field offices, but the high-profile nature of the sprawling Russia inquiry is seen as requiring a central manager, according to current and former officials. “It’s getting unwieldy,” said one person briefed on the plan. “It’s too big and it’s on the front page of the newspaper every day.” An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment. Related article FBI confirms probe of Trump links to Russian campaign meddling ‘No information’ supporting claims Obama ordered wiretap, director tells Congress The bureau is expected to recall from the field an FBI counter-intelligence specialist to oversee the squad, which is to begin work next month. If the new team — with about 20 dedicated agents drawn from across the country — operates as similar units have in the past, its chief would brief Mr Comey on a weekly basis while providing daily updates for deputy director Andrew McCabe. “We did it quite regularly,” said Robert Anderson of Navigant, a business consulting group, who was a former executive assistant director of the FBI. “Any time there’s a big case, a giant case, it becomes a huge resource drain across the organisation.” Russian activities under investigation include alleged hacking into Democratic computer networks and reported contacts between Russians and representatives of the Trump campaign. Michael Flynn, the president’s national security adviser, was fired in February after allegedly lying to vice-president Mike Pence about conversations he had last year with Sergei Kislyak, Russian ambassador to the US. “The FBI, as part of our counter-intelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any co-ordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts,” Mr Comey told the House Intelligence Committee earlier this month. FBI investigators also will evaluate the potential for criminal charges in the Russia matter. But some investigators are pessimistic about the likelihood of making a case, given the difficulty of obtaining evidence from Russia. It’s getting unwieldy. It’s too big and it’s on the front page of the newspaper every day A person briefed on the plan “Unlike the CIA, we have to bring things that go, potentially, in front of a jury,” said one agent. “We have to certify evidence. A place like Russia is such a black hole. It’s so hard to prove you’re bringing evidence that hasn’t been tampered with.” As the FBI probe proceeds, both the Senate and House intelligence committees are pursuing their own Russia-related investigations. Republican Senator Richard Burr, who chairs the Senate panel, said on Wednesday that the committee was “looking anywhere intelligence suggests that there might have been any type of relationship of effort to influence US elections”. In an appearance on Wednesday night before an industry group, Mr Comey declined to discuss the investigation. But he said the FBI would follow the facts without regard for potential political consequences. “We’re not on anybody’s side, ever,” he said. “We’re not considering whose ox will be gored. We just don’t care.”

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