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If in fact that happened, everyone in the room said it didn't,
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Their statement was that Trump didn't reveal 'sources and methods', not that Trump didn't give the Russians classified intelligence. The Russians have a long history of being able to reverse engineer things they acquire. Including classified information.
Classified documents garnered under a FISA warrant can't be released legally unless they are declassified. So there is no legal explanation for the conversations being released.
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Intelligence information we get from our allies under intelligence sharing can't be released legally unless they are declassified first. So there is no legal explanation for Trump telling the Russians the ISIS covert operative information.
Declassification is a formal process where the originating agency is informed about the change in status, so they can take measures to protect their assets. Not just blurted out like Trump did to the Russians.
He is the president you fucking moron...it's already been established he can declassify any Intel
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Classified documents garnered under a FISA warrant can't be released legally unless they are declassified. So there is no legal explanation for the conversations being released.
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Intelligence information we get from our allies under intelligence sharing can't be released legally unless they are declassified first. So there is no legal explanation for Trump telling the Russians the ISIS covert operative information.
Declassification is a formal process where the originating agency is informed about the change in status, so they can take measures to protect their assets. Not just blurted out like Trump did to the Russians.
He is the president you fucking moron...it's already been established he can declassify any Intel
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Yeah he can do that as President--but let's face it--WHAT A DUMBASS to do it.
You don't invite Russians into the Oval office, block out American media, let the Russian media in and start declassifing information at your whim so you can BRAG about what you know. That's exactly what he was doing bragging. He leaked information that our allies didn't even know about.
What makes Trump's intel breach so serious
The next issue who is who leaked it. There were only 3 other Americans in that room with Trump. HR McMaster National Security adviser, Dina Powell Deputy National Security adviser, and Rex Tillerson, Secretary of State. So who leaked it?
These 3 people have sworn an oath to this country to defend against foreign and domestic enemies--is it possible that one of them consider Trump to be the ENEMY? You might want to consider that.
I've posed this hypothetical question to a couple of members and so far no one seems up to the task of providing an answer. So now I'm posing it the whole board.
Ok, here's a hypothetical scenario. Let's say a Trump associate spoke to a Russian representative. The Russian told him we have some really bad shit on the hildabitch and the representative said wow, it would sure help us if you released it on Tuesday and they did exactly that.
Tell me, what specific law would have been broken? Don't give me an opinion, quote the law.
Any takers?
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Classified documents garnered under a FISA warrant can't be released legally unless they are declassified. So there is no legal explanation for the conversations being released.
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Intelligence information we get from our allies under intelligence sharing can't be released legally unless they are declassified first. So there is no legal explanation for Trump telling the Russians the ISIS covert operative information.
Declassification is a formal process where the originating agency is informed about the change in status, so they can take measures to protect their assets. Not just blurted out like Trump did to the Russians.
He is the president you fucking moron...it's already been established he can declassify any Intel
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Yeah he can do that as President--but let's face it--WHAT A DUMBASS to do it.
You don't invite Russians into the Oval office, block out American media, let the Russian media in and start declassifing information at your whim so you can BRAG about what you know. That's exactly what he was doing bragging. He leaked information that our allies didn't even know about.
What makes Trump's intel breach so serious
The next issue who is who leaked it. There were only 3 other Americans in that room with Trump. HR McMaster National Security adviser, Dina Powell Deputy National Security adviser, and Rex Tillerson, Secretary of State. So who leaked it?
Who was in Trump's meeting with the Russians? - CNNPolitics.com
These 3 people have sworn an oath to this country to defend against foreign and domestic enemies. Is it possible that one, or maybe all of them consider Trump to be the ENEMY? You might want to consider that.
I've posed this hypothetical question to a couple of members and so far no one seems up to the task of providing an answer. So now I'm posing it the whole board.
Ok, here's a hypothetical scenario. Let's say a Trump associate spoke to a Russian representative. The Russian told him we have some really bad shit on the hildabitch and the representative said wow, it would sure help us if you released it on Tuesday and they did exactly that.
Tell me, what specific law would have been broken? Don't give me an opinion, quote the law.
Any takers?
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There is NO LAW prohibiting Trump officials , or anyone else for that matters to talk to the Russians.
The Russia connection was a scam concocted by Podesta and HRC to explain her election loss.
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He is the president you fucking moron...it's already been established he can declassify any IntelDeclassification is a formal process where the originating agency is informed about the change in status, so they can take measures to protect their assets. Not just blurted out like Trump did to the Russians.
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Except Trump never declassified the information. Trump just blurted it out to his russian pals.
He is the president you fucking moron...it's already been established he can declassify any IntelDeclassification is a formal process where the originating agency is informed about the change in status, so they can take measures to protect their assets. Not just blurted out like Trump did to the Russians.
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Except Trump never declassified the information. Trump just blurted it out to his russian pals.
Exactly. Classified has to be declassified-- and then it's proper etiquette to call the country or intelligence you received it from, in this case I believe it was Israel and ask them if it is O.K. to give it out. This so it doesn't put their agents lives at risk. I don't think that Israel would have approved of Russia knowing about this.
Apparently Trump in his typical BRAG mode let out the name of the city where they got this information--and Russians being the great spies they are--can backtrack to that town find out who the agent was--who is probably in a very dangerous situation--surrounded by terrorists--and it puts his or "their" lives in danger.
Furthermore with the Ass Clown's mouth & tweety fingers wildly releasing information like that to whomever in the hell he wants to--who is going to be stupid enough to TRUST giving this nation any more top secret information?
Shit if Hillary Clinton had done this, the Reich wing would be out in the streets right now burning cross's and demanding a public hanging--but they let this Jack Ass get away with everything.
He is the president you fucking moron...it's already been established he can declassify any IntelDeclassification is a formal process where the originating agency is informed about the change in status, so they can take measures to protect their assets. Not just blurted out like Trump did to the Russians.
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Except Trump never declassified the information. Trump just blurted it out to his russian pals.
Exactly. Classified has to be declassified-- and then it's proper etiquette to call the country or intelligence you received it from, in this case I believe it was Israel and ask them if it is O.K. to give it out. This so it doesn't put their agents lives at risk. I don't think that Israel would have approved of Russia knowing about this.
Apparently Trump in his typical BRAG mode let out the name of the city where they got this information--and Russians being the great spies they are--can backtrack to that town find out who the agent was--who is probably in a very dangerous situation--surrounded by terrorists--and it puts his or "their" lives in danger.
Furthermore with the Ass Clown's mouth & tweety fingers wildly releasing information like that to whomever in the hell he wants to--who is going to be stupid enough to TRUST giving this nation any more top secret information?
Shit if Hillary Clinton had done this, the Reich wing would be out in the streets right now burning cross's and demanding a public hanging--but they let this Jack Ass get away with everything.
It's Israel what are they going to do boycott us giving them money?
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He is the president you fucking moron...it's already been established he can declassify any IntelDeclassification is a formal process where the originating agency is informed about the change in status, so they can take measures to protect their assets. Not just blurted out like Trump did to the Russians.
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Except Trump never declassified the information. Trump just blurted it out to his russian pals.
Exactly. Classified has to be declassified-- and then it's proper etiquette to call the country or intelligence you received it from, in this case I believe it was Israel and ask them if it is O.K. to give it out. This so it doesn't put their agents lives at risk. I don't think that Israel would have approved of Russia knowing about this.
Apparently Trump in his typical BRAG mode let out the name of the city where they got this information--and Russians being the great spies they are--can backtrack to that town find out who the agent was--who is probably in a very dangerous situation--surrounded by terrorists--and it puts his or "their" lives in danger.
Furthermore with the Ass Clown's mouth & tweety fingers wildly releasing information like that to whomever in the hell he wants to--who is going to be stupid enough to TRUST giving this nation any more top secret information?
Shit if Hillary Clinton had done this, the Reich wing would be out in the streets right now burning cross's and demanding a public hanging--but they let this Jack Ass get away with everything.
It's Israel what are they going to do boycott us giving them money?
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You liberals never think shit through and always set yourself up for a burn ...
Why is that?
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I've posed this hypothetical question to a couple of members and so far no one seems up to the task of providing an answer. So now I'm posing it the whole board.
Ok, here's a hypothetical scenario. Let's say a Trump associate spoke to a Russian representative. The Russian told him we have some really bad shit on the hildabitch and the representative said wow, it would sure help us if you released it on Tuesday and they did exactly that.
Tell me, what specific law would have been broken? Don't give me an opinion, quote the law.
Any takers?
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The Information was obtained by breaking the law by hacking the DNC servers...
To then use that to gain advantage is collusion with that crime.
I think he meant, very simply, that everything is politicized during a campaign, so it isn't the most appropriate time to be engaging with an actor as controversial as Russia. You really don't understand that? Common sense man.
Every president is more "flexible" when he no longer faces re-election.
Right, except he had news paper accounts of conversations that occurred there. That's called evidence of a crime, not a feeling like you regressives have.
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Trump claimed somebody at the IRS illegally released his 1995 federal tax records. Again, an accusation of a crime that didn't happen, with perfectly legal explanations of how both the recorded conversations and released tax records occurred.
Yet that's exactly what happened when Trump claimed Obama wiretapped the phones in Trump Tower.
Right, except he had news paper accounts of conversations that occurred there. That's called evidence of a crime, not a feeling like you regressives have.
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That's what you get when you call up criminals, terrorists, or others subject to FISA and criminal wiretaps. Hint - if you dial 911, your phone is being recorded. Obama isn't wiretaping your house.
Yes, of course, he meant that he would have to do something unpopular after he wins and election, absolutely he politicize the situation. To that there is no doubt, but what exactly was he promising? To do Russia's will or ours? If ours why would he need to wait?I think he meant, very simply, that everything is politicized during a campaign, so it isn't the most appropriate time to be engaging with an actor as controversial as Russia. You really don't understand that? Common sense man.Really, promising the new dreaded enemy of the US with being able to be more flexible is nothing? Really? What the hell do you think he meant? What he obviously meant in my opinion is that after he is elected he doesn't have to worry about doing the will of the people he will be more flexible to do whatever the RUSSIANS want. THAT IS NOT NOTHING. What I can't believe that he got away with such a treasonous statement meanwhile the MSM is running with the Trump BS.Saying that he will be more flexible to negotiate after an election is absolutely nothing. Don't know why you'd even bring it up. Talk about stretching an arguement. Weakest straw man ever!Yeah, Obama as president was much much worse, not even close.No, that isn't even close. Nice try thoughDo you mean for example when a president told the Russians that he would be more "flexible" after won the election? that sort of treason?
I've posed this hypothetical question to a couple of members and so far no one seems up to the task of providing an answer. So now I'm posing it the whole board.
Ok, here's a hypothetical scenario. Let's say a Trump associate spoke to a Russian representative. The Russian told him we have some really bad shit on the hildabitch and the representative said wow, it would sure help us if you released it on Tuesday and they did exactly that.
Tell me, what specific law would have been broken? Don't give me an opinion, quote the law.
Any takers?
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The Information was obtained by breaking the law by hacking the DNC servers...
To then use that to gain advantage is collusion with that crime.
But what someone inside Hillary's campaign gave the Russians the information? The Russians have broken no laws.
You tell me... it's all in the past, he said it, he won the election, he served out his term. Please tell us what he did with this post election flexibility that defied the will of the voters for the will of RussiaYes, of course, he meant that he would have to do something unpopular after he wins and election, absolutely he politicize the situation. To that there is no doubt, but what exactly was he promising? To do Russia's will or ours? If ours why would he need to wait?I think he meant, very simply, that everything is politicized during a campaign, so it isn't the most appropriate time to be engaging with an actor as controversial as Russia. You really don't understand that? Common sense man.Really, promising the new dreaded enemy of the US with being able to be more flexible is nothing? Really? What the hell do you think he meant? What he obviously meant in my opinion is that after he is elected he doesn't have to worry about doing the will of the people he will be more flexible to do whatever the RUSSIANS want. THAT IS NOT NOTHING. What I can't believe that he got away with such a treasonous statement meanwhile the MSM is running with the Trump BS.Saying that he will be more flexible to negotiate after an election is absolutely nothing. Don't know why you'd even bring it up. Talk about stretching an arguement. Weakest straw man ever!Yeah, Obama as president was much much worse, not even close.No, that isn't even close. Nice try though
You tell me... it's all in the past, he said it, he won the election, he served out his term. Please tell us what he did with this post election flexibility that defied the will of the voters for the will of RussiaYes, of course, he meant that he would have to do something unpopular after he wins and election, absolutely he politicize the situation. To that there is no doubt, but what exactly was he promising? To do Russia's will or ours? If ours why would he need to wait?I think he meant, very simply, that everything is politicized during a campaign, so it isn't the most appropriate time to be engaging with an actor as controversial as Russia. You really don't understand that? Common sense man.Really, promising the new dreaded enemy of the US with being able to be more flexible is nothing? Really? What the hell do you think he meant? What he obviously meant in my opinion is that after he is elected he doesn't have to worry about doing the will of the people he will be more flexible to do whatever the RUSSIANS want. THAT IS NOT NOTHING. What I can't believe that he got away with such a treasonous statement meanwhile the MSM is running with the Trump BS.Saying that he will be more flexible to negotiate after an election is absolutely nothing. Don't know why you'd even bring it up. Talk about stretching an arguement. Weakest straw man ever!Yeah, Obama as president was much much worse, not even close.
You tell me... it's all in the past, he said it, he won the election, he served out his term. Please tell us what he did with this post election flexibility that defied the will of the voters for the will of RussiaYes, of course, he meant that he would have to do something unpopular after he wins and election, absolutely he politicize the situation. To that there is no doubt, but what exactly was he promising? To do Russia's will or ours? If ours why would he need to wait?I think he meant, very simply, that everything is politicized during a campaign, so it isn't the most appropriate time to be engaging with an actor as controversial as Russia. You really don't understand that? Common sense man.Really, promising the new dreaded enemy of the US with being able to be more flexible is nothing? Really? What the hell do you think he meant? What he obviously meant in my opinion is that after he is elected he doesn't have to worry about doing the will of the people he will be more flexible to do whatever the RUSSIANS want. THAT IS NOT NOTHING. What I can't believe that he got away with such a treasonous statement meanwhile the MSM is running with the Trump BS.Saying that he will be more flexible to negotiate after an election is absolutely nothing. Don't know why you'd even bring it up. Talk about stretching an arguement. Weakest straw man ever!
And the Chickens have come home to roost.
"Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham on Thursday said it’s clear that after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein briefed the Senate on the investigation into Russian involvement in the presidential election that it has become a criminal probe.
“The shock to the body is that this is now a criminal investigation,” Graham (R-SC) told reporters moments after he exited the Senate chamber.
He said now that it has become a criminal investigation instead of an counterintelligence probe Congress may be impeded in carrying out its own examinations.
“You’ve got a special counsel who has prosecutorial powers now, and I think we in Congress have to be very careful not to interfere,” Graham said. “Public access to this is probably going to be very limited now. It’s going to really limit what the public will know about this.”
http://nypost.com/2017/05/18/lindsey-graham-russia-probe-now-a-criminal-investigation/
Let's see if you have the attention span to listen to this entire 8 minute video:
Collusion with a Foreign Adversary to interfere into an American election is TREASON. This country is not going to tolerate a Traitor sitting in the oval office.
You tell me... it's all in the past, he said it, he won the election, he served out his term. Please tell us what he did with this post election flexibility that defied the will of the voters for the will of RussiaYes, of course, he meant that he would have to do something unpopular after he wins and election, absolutely he politicize the situation. To that there is no doubt, but what exactly was he promising? To do Russia's will or ours? If ours why would he need to wait?I think he meant, very simply, that everything is politicized during a campaign, so it isn't the most appropriate time to be engaging with an actor as controversial as Russia. You really don't understand that? Common sense man.Really, promising the new dreaded enemy of the US with being able to be more flexible is nothing? Really? What the hell do you think he meant? What he obviously meant in my opinion is that after he is elected he doesn't have to worry about doing the will of the people he will be more flexible to do whatever the RUSSIANS want. THAT IS NOT NOTHING. What I can't believe that he got away with such a treasonous statement meanwhile the MSM is running with the Trump BS.Saying that he will be more flexible to negotiate after an election is absolutely nothing. Don't know why you'd even bring it up. Talk about stretching an arguement. Weakest straw man ever!
And the Chickens have come home to roost.
"Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham on Thursday said it’s clear that after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein briefed the Senate on the investigation into Russian involvement in the presidential election that it has become a criminal probe.
“The shock to the body is that this is now a criminal investigation,” Graham (R-SC) told reporters moments after he exited the Senate chamber.
He said now that it has become a criminal investigation instead of an counterintelligence probe Congress may be impeded in carrying out its own examinations.
“You’ve got a special counsel who has prosecutorial powers now, and I think we in Congress have to be very careful not to interfere,” Graham said. “Public access to this is probably going to be very limited now. It’s going to really limit what the public will know about this.”
http://nypost.com/2017/05/18/lindsey-graham-russia-probe-now-a-criminal-investigation/
Let's see if you have the attention span to listen to this entire 8 minute video:
Collusion with a Foreign Adversary to interfere into an American election is TREASON. This country is not going to tolerate a Traitor sitting in the oval office.
