"The Palestinians will not recognize Israel's right to exist"

[toastman]

And you took it seriously ? He's obviously joking. Read it again. There's no threat of genocide there

 

[Hyrcanus]

And you took it seriously ? He's obviously joking. Read it again. There's no threat of genocide there

so when the Arabs said they were going to push the Jews into the Sea, they were also joking?

great to hear

 

[toastman]

And you took it seriously ? He's obviously joking. Read it again. There's no threat of genocide there

so when the Arabs said they were going to push the Jews into the Sea, they were also joking?

great to hear

SO you're comparing what a poster on a message forum said as a joke to what the Arab leaders of three countries said AND attempted to do ??? Yikes

 

[Hyrcanus]

SO you're comparing what a poster on a message forum said as a joke to what the Arab leaders of three countries said AND attempted to do ??? Yikes

he wasn't joking.

 

[toastman]

Oh Geez, I didn't know you could read his mind ! That's incredible !

 

[Lipush]

Some people here cannot recognize sarcasm even when it bits them in their tuches.

Gee!

 

[toastman]

Hey Lipush, so how's it going in southern Israel ? How's the weather this summer so far?I've been to Eilat twice

 

[georgephillip]

Al Aqsa was built over the ruins of the holiest place of Judaism.

On the ruins of the Temple.

If anything is a "foreign root", it's not our places of prayers.

Would you say there is more or less religious violence between Arab and Jew in Palestine today than there was exactly 100 years ago, before the "foreign root" of Zionism arrived?

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"'The bride is beautiful, but she is married to another man' is a phrase of uncertain origin that has been cited by scholars and in publications as the text of a cable sent by a Jewish fact-finding mission to Palestine in the 1890s.[1]

"It is generally portrayed as an early but ignored implication that a Jewish homeland would not be reestablished in Palestine without interfering with the existing population."

The bolded phrase is controversial as far as primary sources are concerned:

"(Shai) Afsai argued that 'post-1996 English-language uses of the 'married to another man' story can be traced back to Mohamed Heikal’s Secret Channels, often by way of Avi Shlaim’s The Iron Wall (2000); that all those who tell the story never provide a primary source for it and often provide no source at all; and that there has been no basis for recounting the story as a historical event that occurred during the early years of the Zionist movement.

"In short, the story is unsubstantiated and writers should not treat it as historical fact.'"

However, many early Zionists arriving in Palestine between 1918 and 1948 found themselves among a small minority of Native Jews, and the European newcomers made no attempt to conceal their plans for dominating all the land between the River and the sea; The indigenous majority responded accordingly.

The bride is beautiful but she is married to another man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hyrcanus]

The OP is funny, because many right-wing Zionists refuse to recognize the right of a Palestinian state to exist west of the Jordan river.

 

[MHunterB]

"However, many early Zionists arriving in Palestine between 1918 and 1948 found themselves among a small minority of Native Jews, and the European newcomers made no attempt to conceal their plans for dominating all the land between the River and the sea; The indigenous majority responded accordingly."

I had no idea Georgie was that old - or that he'd ever been to Eretz Yisroel........ Otherwise, how could he possibly have known this happened?

 

[georgephillip]

The OP is funny, because many right-wing Zionists refuse to recognize the right of a Palestinian state to exist west of the Jordan river.

Many pro-Occupation posters on this board are reluctant to name the eastern border of... "The Land of Israel (Hebrew: אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל ʼÉreṣ Yiśrāʼēl, Eretz Yisrael) is a name for the territory roughly corresponding to the area encompassed by the Southern Levant (also known in English as Land of Canaan, Palestine, the Promised Land, or simply the Holy Land).

"The definition of the limits of this territory varies between biblical passages, specifically Genesis 15, Exodus 23, Numbers 34 and Ezekiel 47. Elsewhere in the Bible, this land is often referred as 'from Dan to Beersheba'".

Maybe they're waiting for Moses?

 

[toastman]

Would you say there is more or less religious violence between Arab and Jew in Palestine today than there was exactly 100 years ago, before the "foreign root" of Zionism arrived?

More

"'The bride is beautiful, but she is married to another man' is a phrase of uncertain origin that has been cited by scholars and in publications as the text of a cable sent by a Jewish fact-finding mission to Palestine in the 1890s.[1]

"It is generally portrayed as an early but ignored implication that a Jewish homeland would not be reestablished in Palestine without interfering with the existing population."

The bolded phrase is controversial as far as primary sources are concerned:

"(Shai) Afsai argued that 'post-1996 English-language uses of the 'married to another man' story can be traced back to Mohamed Heikal’s Secret Channels, often by way of Avi Shlaim’s The Iron Wall (2000); that all those who tell the story never provide a primary source for it and often provide no source at all; and that there has been no basis for recounting the story as a historical event that occurred during the early years of the Zionist movement.

"In short, the story is unsubstantiated and writers should not treat it as historical fact.'"

However, many early Zionists arriving in Palestine between 1918 and 1948 found themselves among a small minority of Native Jews, and the European newcomers made no attempt to conceal their plans for dominating all the land between the River and the sea; The indigenous majority responded accordingly.

The bride is beautiful but she is married to another man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When you say the indigenous majority acted accordingly, can you elaborate ??

 

[Hyrcanus]

I had no idea Georgie was that old - or that he'd ever been to Eretz Yisroel........ Otherwise, how could he possibly have known this happened?

he's quoting from an article.

 

[toastman]

The OP is funny, because many right-wing Zionists refuse to recognize the right of a Palestinian state to exist west of the Jordan river.

Many pro-Occupation posters on this board are reluctant to name the eastern border of... "The Land of Israel (Hebrew: אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל ʼÉreṣ Yiśrāʼēl, Eretz Yisrael) is a name for the territory roughly corresponding to the area encompassed by the Southern Levant (also known in English as Land of Canaan, Palestine, the Promised Land, or simply the Holy Land).

"The definition of the limits of this territory varies between biblical passages, specifically Genesis 15, Exodus 23, Numbers 34 and Ezekiel 47. Elsewhere in the Bible, this land is often referred as 'from Dan to Beersheba'".

Maybe they're waiting for Moses?

Georgie Boy, what is Jordan's Western Border?

 

[Lipush]

The OP is funny, because many right-wing Zionists refuse to recognize the right of a Palestinian state to exist west of the Jordan river.

Yes, but those didn't get anyone representing them in the Knesset because people are tired of far-right extremism.

Something that I have said 10 times already

 

[Lipush]

"However, many early Zionists arriving in Palestine between 1918 and 1948 found themselves among a small minority of Native Jews, and the European newcomers made no attempt to conceal their plans for dominating all the land between the River and the sea; The indigenous majority responded accordingly."

I had no idea Georgie was that old - or that he'd ever been to Eretz Yisroel........ Otherwise, how could he possibly have known this happened?

"Anti Zionists know best"!

 

[MHunterB]

I had no idea Georgie was that old - or that he'd ever been to Eretz Yisroel........ Otherwise, how could he possibly have known this happened?

he's quoting from an article.

The words I was commenting on were not inside quotes: they were the poster's own *opinion*, which he anointed as 'fact'.

 

[MHunterB]

The OP is funny, because many right-wing Zionists refuse to recognize the right of a Palestinian state to exist west of the Jordan river.

Many pro-Occupation posters on this board are reluctant to name the eastern border of... "The Land of Israel (Hebrew: אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל ʼÉreṣ Yiśrāʼēl, Eretz Yisrael) is a name for the territory roughly corresponding to the area encompassed by the Southern Levant (also known in English as Land of Canaan, Palestine, the Promised Land, or simply the Holy Land).

"The definition of the limits of this territory varies between biblical passages, specifically Genesis 15, Exodus 23, Numbers 34 and Ezekiel 47. Elsewhere in the Bible, this land is often referred as 'from Dan to Beersheba'".

Maybe they're waiting for Moses?

Since I have no idea who you might be referring to, that 'observation' has zero value to me. The snide reference to Moses is not funny but offensive. The whole tone is demeaning and disruptive.

 

[Hyrcanus]

you are obviously arguing with paid zionist shills here that have been paid to troll the boards.

please keep the baseless conspiracy theories to yourself.

 

[georgephillip]

"However, many early Zionists arriving in Palestine between 1918 and 1948 found themselves among a small minority of Native Jews, and the European newcomers made no attempt to conceal their plans for dominating all the land between the River and the sea; The indigenous majority responded accordingly."

I had no idea Georgie was that old - or that he'd ever been to Eretz Yisroel........ Otherwise, how could he possibly have known this happened?

I wasn't schlepping along the Trail of Tears:

Neither was Chomsky:

"Chomsky: Undermining Gaza
"Noam Chomsky interviewed by Sameer Dossani
"Foreign Policy in Focus , January 16, 2009

"DOSSANI: The Israeli government and many Israeli and U.S. officials claim that the current assault on Gaza is to put an end to the flow of Qassam rockets from Gaza into Israel.

"But many observers claim that if that were really the case, Israel would have made much more of an effort to renew the ceasefire agreement that expired in December, which had all but stopped the rocket fire. In your opinion, what are the real motivations behind the current Israeli action?

CHOMSKY: There's a theme that goes way back to the origins of Zionism.

"And it's a very rational theme: 'Let's delay negotiations and diplomacy as long as possible, and meanwhile we'll "build facts on the ground."

" So Israel will create the basis for what some eventual agreement will ratify, but the more they create, the more they construct, the better the agreement will be for their purposes. Those purposes are essentially to take over everything of value in the former Palestine and to undermine what's left of the indigenous population.

"I think one of the reasons for popular support for this in the United States is that it resonates very well with American history. How did the United States get established? The themes are similar."

Chomsky: Undermining Gaza, Noam Chomsky interviewed by Sameer Dossani

I don't need to personally experience ethnic cleansing to know it when I see it, Marg.
What's your excuse?