The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

[rightwinger]

Sorry, what fiction are you basing this on? When did Bush deny it was a recession? Do you recall what TARP was?
You have zero credibility, Nutsucker.

Douche Gargler (its fun when we get to call eachother names isn't it?)

Bushs attempt at TARP did not happen until a month before the 2008 election. Kind of late considering the recession had been going on for a year. As can be seen by the employment charts and the continued collapse of the stock market the Bush TARP was inneffective

Thankfully, President Obama came in and righted the ship

The recession was not going on for a year. Remember McCain suspending his campaign to return to DC? Yeah, that was in the summer of 2008. So getting a big package like TARP passed within a coupel of months is a real achievment. That's what leaders do, work with people who disagree with them.
The economy had stabilized by the time Obozo got into office. We did not see the large firm failures after that.
Obozo's policies made both recession last longer and the recovery weaker.

Don't even try to attempt to rewrite the history here. We all know the real story.

Listen Urinal Licker (it is so fun when we start to call eachother names isn't it?)

The economy had stabilized by the time President Obama took office? By what metric?

The Stock Market dropping 7000 points?
5 Quarters of negative GDP?
Losing 800,000 jobs a month?
The financial sector and auto companies on the verge of collapse?

That is what Republicans call handing over a "stable" economy?

 

[bedowin62]

Douche Gargler (its fun when we get to call eachother names isn't it?)

Bushs attempt at TARP did not happen until a month before the 2008 election. Kind of late considering the recession had been going on for a year. As can be seen by the employment charts and the continued collapse of the stock market the Bush TARP was inneffective

Thankfully, President Obama came in and righted the ship

The recession was not going on for a year. Remember McCain suspending his campaign to return to DC? Yeah, that was in the summer of 2008. So getting a big package like TARP passed within a coupel of months is a real achievment. That's what leaders do, work with people who disagree with them.
The economy had stabilized by the time Obozo got into office. We did not see the large firm failures after that.
Obozo's policies made both recession last longer and the recovery weaker.

Don't even try to attempt to rewrite the history here. We all know the real story.

Listen Urinal Licker (it is so fun when we start to call eachother names isn't it?)

The economy had stabilized by the time President Obama took office? By what metric?

The Stock Market dropping 700 points?
5 Quarters of negative GDP?
Losing 800,000 jobs a month?
The financial sector and auto companies on the verge of collapse?

That is what Republicans call handing over a "stable" economy?

economists; not that Fox News you loses fear; say the recession ended in the summer of obama's first year in office.

long before even a fraction of his Stimulus money was in effect

you lie to yourself

it's funny

 

[edthecynic]

Lets look at the impact that Obamas Stimulus had on employment shall we?

Stimulus passed on Feb 17 2009

Within six weeks of the passing of the Stimulus the number of jobs being lost each month went from losing 800,000 to losing 650,000 to losing 380,000 a month. We finally went to positive employment in March 2010.

Even a casual observation shows how dramatic the change in jobs being lost was.

LOL...wait a second! You just claimed that after the Obama Stimulus kicked in that unemployment started going down almost immediately. I just showed that it DIDN'T! That in fact after the stimulus unemployment continued to go up until it hit 10% and that it didn't come back down to the rate it was when the Obama Stimulus was passed until YEARS later!

Economies historically rebound from recessions. We've had dozens of them and they've all rebounded in much the same fashion. The Obama Stimulus was a nearly trillion dollar liberal "pork fest" that rewarded Democratic supporters and created so few jobs that the Obama Administration had to come up with a new labor statistic "jobs created or saved" to hide just how bad it was.

Perhaps instead of a "casual observation", you might want to take a GOOD LOOK?

The Stimulus was a scam. It was designed to establish a spending base. It's called baseline budgeting.

That's why Obama had a $1.4 trillion dollar deficit his first year. The year before, under Bush, the deficit was $400 billion. The year before that, before the Dems took back Congress it was $159 billion.

So Obama would have over a trillion dollars in deficit spending because of baseline budgeting, but he gets a gift from Boehner. A $600 tax increase, which would have put us into a surplus if we didn't establish this new base.

As it is, we're still at $600 billion in deficit spending and our taxes are ever higher, and Obama is still looking for more money to steal from us and more ways to spend it. But compared to Obama's first two years of trillion dollar deficits, $600 billion appears like an improvement. So, of course, the liberals crow about it constantly.

Bush's last fiscal year had a deficit of 1.47 trillion, the year before that the GOP National Debt increased 1 trillion and the year you say the deficit was 159 billion the GOP National Debt increased by half a trillion.

 

[The Rabbi]

The recession was not going on for a year. Remember McCain suspending his campaign to return to DC? Yeah, that was in the summer of 2008. So getting a big package like TARP passed within a coupel of months is a real achievment. That's what leaders do, work with people who disagree with them.
The economy had stabilized by the time Obozo got into office. We did not see the large firm failures after that.
Obozo's policies made both recession last longer and the recovery weaker.

Don't even try to attempt to rewrite the history here. We all know the real story.

Listen Urinal Licker (it is so fun when we start to call eachother names isn't it?)

The economy had stabilized by the time President Obama took office? By what metric?

The Stock Market dropping 700 points?
5 Quarters of negative GDP?
Losing 800,000 jobs a month?
The financial sector and auto companies on the verge of collapse?

That is what Republicans call handing over a "stable" economy?

economists; not that Fox News you loses fear; say the recession ended in the summer of obama's first year in office.

long before even a fraction of his Stimulus money was in effect

you lie to yourself

it's funny

It's no wonder leftists fail at everything they try. They work from incorrect facts.
Nutsucker is totally lacking credibility, much less integrity.

 

[mudwhistle]

LOL...wait a second! You just claimed that after the Obama Stimulus kicked in that unemployment started going down almost immediately. I just showed that it DIDN'T! That in fact after the stimulus unemployment continued to go up until it hit 10% and that it didn't come back down to the rate it was when the Obama Stimulus was passed until YEARS later!

Economies historically rebound from recessions. We've had dozens of them and they've all rebounded in much the same fashion. The Obama Stimulus was a nearly trillion dollar liberal "pork fest" that rewarded Democratic supporters and created so few jobs that the Obama Administration had to come up with a new labor statistic "jobs created or saved" to hide just how bad it was.

Perhaps instead of a "casual observation", you might want to take a GOOD LOOK?

The Stimulus was a scam. It was designed to establish a spending base. It's called baseline budgeting.

That's why Obama had a $1.4 trillion dollar deficit his first year. The year before, under Bush, the deficit was $400 billion. The year before that, before the Dems took back Congress it was $159 billion.

So Obama would have over a trillion dollars in deficit spending because of baseline budgeting, but he gets a gift from Boehner. A $600 tax increase, which would have put us into a surplus if we didn't establish this new base.

As it is, we're still at $600 billion in deficit spending and our taxes are ever higher, and Obama is still looking for more money to steal from us and more ways to spend it. But compared to Obama's first two years of trillion dollar deficits, $600 billion appears like an improvement. So, of course, the liberals crow about it constantly.

Bush's last fiscal year had a deficit of 1.47 trillion, the year before that the GOP National Debt increased 1 trillion and the year you say the deficit was 159 billion the GOP National Debt increased by half a trillion.

If Congress would stop stealing from the Social Security we wouldn't be close to $18 trillion in debt. Every year they took $500 billion from the intragovernmental fund and added it to the debt. It wasn't part of the official budget. Obama stole $700 bill from Medicare himself. The actual budget deficit in 08' at this time of the year was $284 billion. U.S. National Debt Clock 2008

I think you're confusing Bush's budget with Obama's budget. Course, he didn't have an official budget pass Congress till this year, so nobody can say exactly what it was or where it was spent.

 

[Oldstyle]

Lets look at the impact that Obamas Stimulus had on employment shall we?

Stimulus passed on Feb 17 2009

Within six weeks of the passing of the Stimulus the number of jobs being lost each month went from losing 800,000 to losing 650,000 to losing 380,000 a month. We finally went to positive employment in March 2010.

Even a casual observation shows how dramatic the change in jobs being lost was.

LOL...wait a second! You just claimed that after the Obama Stimulus kicked in that unemployment started going down almost immediately. I just showed that it DIDN'T! That in fact after the stimulus unemployment continued to go up until it hit 10% and that it didn't come back down to the rate it was when the Obama Stimulus was passed until YEARS later!

Economies historically rebound from recessions. We've had dozens of them and they've all rebounded in much the same fashion. The Obama Stimulus was a nearly trillion dollar liberal "pork fest" that rewarded Democratic supporters and created so few jobs that the Obama Administration had to come up with a new labor statistic "jobs created or saved" to hide just how bad it was.

Perhaps instead of a "casual observation", you might want to take a GOOD LOOK?

LoL

Yea...the old Republican standby
The economy would have reversed itself anyway

The biggest failure of Bush was not that we went into recession but that he denied the fact that we were in a recession and stood by doing nothing waiting for his recession to self correct. It took Government action to halt the Bush economic collapse and it was Obama who saved us from a depression

Fine, show me a recession that didn't reverse itself...

What progressives like you will never admit is that we had recessions before Keynesian economic theory existed and we ALWAYS came out of them. It doesn't take Government action to make that happen.

And it was Bush's TARP program that kept us from a depression...Obama simply continued what Bush started and then wasted nearly a trillion dollars on the liberal pork fest that the Obama Stimulus turned into.

 

[rightwinger]

LOL...wait a second! You just claimed that after the Obama Stimulus kicked in that unemployment started going down almost immediately. I just showed that it DIDN'T! That in fact after the stimulus unemployment continued to go up until it hit 10% and that it didn't come back down to the rate it was when the Obama Stimulus was passed until YEARS later!

Economies historically rebound from recessions. We've had dozens of them and they've all rebounded in much the same fashion. The Obama Stimulus was a nearly trillion dollar liberal "pork fest" that rewarded Democratic supporters and created so few jobs that the Obama Administration had to come up with a new labor statistic "jobs created or saved" to hide just how bad it was.

Perhaps instead of a "casual observation", you might want to take a GOOD LOOK?

LoL

Yea...the old Republican standby
The economy would have reversed itself anyway

The biggest failure of Bush was not that we went into recession but that he denied the fact that we were in a recession and stood by doing nothing waiting for his recession to self correct. It took Government action to halt the Bush economic collapse and it was Obama who saved us from a depression

Fine, show me a recession that didn't reverse itself...

What progressives like you will never admit is that we had recessions before Keynesian economic theory existed and we ALWAYS came out of them. It doesn't take Government action to make that happen.

And it was Bush's TARP program that kept us from a depression...Obama simply continued what Bush started and then wasted nearly a trillion dollars on the liberal pork fest that the Obama Stimulus turned into.

Easy

The Bush Recession. Bush sat for a year waiting for it to "reverse itself"

If the Bush TARP kept us from a depression, why did the number of jobs lost continue to skyrocket?, why did the stock market continue to collapse? Whaty did the banks and auto companies require further bailouts?

Better yet...why did Republicans vote FOR the Bush TARP but against the Obama TARP?

 

[mudwhistle]

LoL

Yea...the old Republican standby
The economy would have reversed itself anyway

The biggest failure of Bush was not that we went into recession but that he denied the fact that we were in a recession and stood by doing nothing waiting for his recession to self correct. It took Government action to halt the Bush economic collapse and it was Obama who saved us from a depression

Fine, show me a recession that didn't reverse itself...

What progressives like you will never admit is that we had recessions before Keynesian economic theory existed and we ALWAYS came out of them. It doesn't take Government action to make that happen.

And it was Bush's TARP program that kept us from a depression...Obama simply continued what Bush started and then wasted nearly a trillion dollars on the liberal pork fest that the Obama Stimulus turned into.

Easy

The Bush Recession. Bush sat for a year waiting for it to "reverse itself"

If the Bush TARP kept us from a depression, why did the number of jobs lost continue to skyrocket?, why did the stock market continue to collapse? Whaty did the banks and auto companies require further bailouts?

In a Capitalist system all you need to do is set up an economic environment that is conducive to growth and sit back and watch it grow. Obama, on the other hand, stifles growth at every turn, because he despises Capitalism.

 

[rightwinger]

Fine, show me a recession that didn't reverse itself...

What progressives like you will never admit is that we had recessions before Keynesian economic theory existed and we ALWAYS came out of them. It doesn't take Government action to make that happen.

And it was Bush's TARP program that kept us from a depression...Obama simply continued what Bush started and then wasted nearly a trillion dollars on the liberal pork fest that the Obama Stimulus turned into.

Easy

The Bush Recession. Bush sat for a year waiting for it to "reverse itself"

If the Bush TARP kept us from a depression, why did the number of jobs lost continue to skyrocket?, why did the stock market continue to collapse? Whaty did the banks and auto companies require further bailouts?

In a Capitalist system all you need to do is set up an economic environment that is conducive to growth and sit back and watch it grow. Obama, on the other hand, stifles growth at every turn, because he despises Capitalism.

Isn't that what led to the Bush Depression?

Let the banks and markets do what they want

 

[bedowin62]

left-wingnuts are like huge lollipops: all-day suckers for PROGRESSIVE FAILURE

 

[The Rabbi]

Easy

The Bush Recession. Bush sat for a year waiting for it to "reverse itself"

If the Bush TARP kept us from a depression, why did the number of jobs lost continue to skyrocket?, why did the stock market continue to collapse? Whaty did the banks and auto companies require further bailouts?

In a Capitalist system all you need to do is set up an economic environment that is conducive to growth and sit back and watch it grow. Obama, on the other hand, stifles growth at every turn, because he despises Capitalism.

Isn't that what led to the Bush Depression?

Let the banks and markets do what they want

No. Are you insane?

 

[U2Edge]

In reality, unemployment started to drop shortly after the stimulus passed and hasn't looked back since

In what "alternative universe" did that take place in, Winger? I know it didn't happen in THIS one! When the Obama Stimulus was approved unemployment stood at 7.8%. By the end of six months it had shot all the way up to 10%. It didn't come back to 7.8% until September of 2012 almost three YEARS after the stimulus was passed. Do you really not know this stuff? Damn, son...you gotta stop watching MSNBC!!!

Lets look at the impact that Obamas Stimulus had on employment shall we?

Stimulus passed on Feb 17 2009

Within six weeks of the passing of the Stimulus the number of jobs being lost each month went from losing 800,000 to losing 650,000 to losing 380,000 a month. We finally went to positive employment in March 2010.

Even a casual observation shows how dramatic the change in jobs being lost was.

Remember, the economy has to be adding about 200,000 jobs per month just to keep up with population growth and new people entering the work force. So simply having positive job growth is not enough.

 

[U2Edge]

Lets look at the impact that Obamas Stimulus had on employment shall we?

Stimulus passed on Feb 17 2009

Within six weeks of the passing of the Stimulus the number of jobs being lost each month went from losing 800,000 to losing 650,000 to losing 380,000 a month. We finally went to positive employment in March 2010.

Even a casual observation shows how dramatic the change in jobs being lost was.

LOL...wait a second! You just claimed that after the Obama Stimulus kicked in that unemployment started going down almost immediately. I just showed that it DIDN'T! That in fact after the stimulus unemployment continued to go up until it hit 10% and that it didn't come back down to the rate it was when the Obama Stimulus was passed until YEARS later!

Economies historically rebound from recessions. We've had dozens of them and they've all rebounded in much the same fashion. The Obama Stimulus was a nearly trillion dollar liberal "pork fest" that rewarded Democratic supporters and created so few jobs that the Obama Administration had to come up with a new labor statistic "jobs created or saved" to hide just how bad it was.

Perhaps instead of a "casual observation", you might want to take a GOOD LOOK?

LoL

Yea...the old Republican standby
The economy would have reversed itself anyway

The biggest failure of Bush was not that we went into recession but that he denied the fact that we were in a recession and stood by doing nothing waiting for his recession to self correct. It took Government action to halt the Bush economic collapse and it was Obama who saved us from a depression

Obama did not start the stimulus, Bush did. GDP growth became positive again just 6 months after Bush left office.

 

[Truthseeker420]

I thought Tea Party nuts didn't believe the unemployment numbers?

 

[rightwinger]

LOL...wait a second! You just claimed that after the Obama Stimulus kicked in that unemployment started going down almost immediately. I just showed that it DIDN'T! That in fact after the stimulus unemployment continued to go up until it hit 10% and that it didn't come back down to the rate it was when the Obama Stimulus was passed until YEARS later!

Economies historically rebound from recessions. We've had dozens of them and they've all rebounded in much the same fashion. The Obama Stimulus was a nearly trillion dollar liberal "pork fest" that rewarded Democratic supporters and created so few jobs that the Obama Administration had to come up with a new labor statistic "jobs created or saved" to hide just how bad it was.

Perhaps instead of a "casual observation", you might want to take a GOOD LOOK?

LoL

Yea...the old Republican standby
The economy would have reversed itself anyway

The biggest failure of Bush was not that we went into recession but that he denied the fact that we were in a recession and stood by doing nothing waiting for his recession to self correct. It took Government action to halt the Bush economic collapse and it was Obama who saved us from a depression

Obama did not start the stimulus, Bush did. GDP growth became positive again just 6 months after Bush left office.

Nuff said

 

[bedowin62]

LoL

Yea...the old Republican standby
The economy would have reversed itself anyway

The biggest failure of Bush was not that we went into recession but that he denied the fact that we were in a recession and stood by doing nothing waiting for his recession to self correct. It took Government action to halt the Bush economic collapse and it was Obama who saved us from a depression

Obama did not start the stimulus, Bush did. GDP growth became positive again just 6 months after Bush left office.

Nuff said

good one stupid. so you just admitted the bush Stimulus had a more positive effect on the economy?

thanks genius

and also you just admitted the reason for the RECORD welfare and food stamps in obama's sixth year has nothing to do with Bush or his policies

thanks again!

 

[rightwinger]

Obama did not start the stimulus, Bush did. GDP growth became positive again just 6 months after Bush left office.

Nuff said

good one stupid. so you just admitted the bush Stimulus had a more positive effect on the economy?

thanks genius

and also you just admitted the reason for the RECORD welfare and food stamps in obama's sixth year has nothing to do with Bush or his policies

thanks again!

"GDP growth became positive again just 6 months after Bush left office"

Nuff said

 

[bedowin62]

Nuff said

good one stupid. so you just admitted the bush Stimulus had a more positive effect on the economy?

thanks genius

and also you just admitted the reason for the RECORD welfare and food stamps in obama's sixth year has nothing to do with Bush or his policies

thanks again!

"GDP growth became positive again just 6 months after Bush left office"

Nuff said

exactly!! and you also said Bush did Stimulus before Obama did

thanx!

 

[mudwhistle]

Easy

The Bush Recession. Bush sat for a year waiting for it to "reverse itself"

If the Bush TARP kept us from a depression, why did the number of jobs lost continue to skyrocket?, why did the stock market continue to collapse? Whaty did the banks and auto companies require further bailouts?

In a Capitalist system all you need to do is set up an economic environment that is conducive to growth and sit back and watch it grow. Obama, on the other hand, stifles growth at every turn, because he despises Capitalism.

Isn't that what led to the Bush Depression?

Let the banks and markets do what they want

Nope. That was yet another media lie perpetrated by the left.

A lot of issues had to do with it. But but if you'll remember, Barney Fwank and Chris Dodd were in charge of oversight during the years when it went to shit. Fwank in the House and Dodd in the Senate. The libs greased the skids for a banking collapse by encouraging people to pull out their savings, get into loans they didn't qualify for before they started yelling that blacks need to be homeowners too. The Dems said that the system was racist and that whites were preventing blacks from being homeowners. Remember all of that talk about those evil lenders tricking the poor into buying their loan packages? Pure Marxist Bull Shit.

Unqualified borrowers started moving into mansions and then not pay a single mortgage payment for months. The banks foreclosed and booted them out. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac started backing risky non-conforming loans, using only stated income as a qualifier. No down payment, no loan history. I can't remember the name of the guy that somehow got put in charge of Fannie Mae (Frank Raines). Friend of Obama of course. Worked for Clinton. Highly questionable past.

Bush warned us about this way back in 2003 and the Dems said nothing was up. Barney Frank said the economy was strong. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Course we've been over this, and over this, again, and again, at nauseaum.

 

[mudwhistle]

Nuff said

good one stupid. so you just admitted the bush Stimulus had a more positive effect on the economy?

thanks genius

and also you just admitted the reason for the RECORD welfare and food stamps in obama's sixth year has nothing to do with Bush or his policies

thanks again!

"GDP growth became positive again just 6 months after Bush left office"

Nuff said

Congress had a Democrat president. Why would they want to fuck him?

All of the shit that was going on came to a screeching halt.

The banking collapse was what led to the takeover of banking by the federal government.

The collapse of health care is what will lead to the takeover of the health care insurance industry by the federal government eventually through single-payer.

The collapse of General Motors and Chrysler led to the takeover of 2/3rds of the American auto industry by the federal government and their union stooges.

The coming energy collapse and the complete takeover by the federal government was blurted out by Maxine Waters during a hearing. That's what is coming next.