The reality of Trump's condolences phone call

[Coyote]

As the recent episode with the widow of the soldier killed in Niger shows, the media jackals will take anything he says and twist it to serve their narrative.

According to Wilson, Trump said "he knew what he signed up for"
According to Kelly, Trump said "he knew what he signed up for"

According to Trump, "I didn't say what Wilson claimed"

Wilson, Johnsons mother in law, and even Kelly confirmed what Trump said.

Yet Trump denied he said it.

Obama Told Police: Risking Your Lives Is Part Of 'Job You Signed Up For'

Obama said it as a thank you to rookie officers just starting their service. Not to the widow of a slain officer mourning her husband's death. Context is everything.

I really think Trump does not realize who is audience is. He has no experience or inclination to console a grieving widow

I don't think he does either and it was a conversation that should have been respected as private.

 

[Dragonlady]

As the recent episode with the widow of the soldier killed in Niger shows, the media jackals will take anything he says and twist it to serve their narrative.

According to Wilson, Trump said "he knew what he signed up for"
According to Kelly, Trump said "he knew what he signed up for"

According to Trump, "I didn't say what Wilson claimed"

Wilson, Johnsons mother in law, and even Kelly confirmed what Trump said.

Yet Trump denied he said it.

Obama Told Police: Risking Your Lives Is Part Of 'Job You Signed Up For'

Obama said it as a thank you to rookie officers just starting their service. Not to the widow of a slain officer mourning her husband's death. Context is everything.

It seems to mean nothing according to you in this topic.

Even the General said that yes, the brave people that join our military are aware of the possible outcomes, but Trump said it in a honorary way whereas Aunt Esther used Trumps words out of context to make it sound like he meant it in a uncaring way.

The FAMILY of the serviceman said they felt his comments were disrespectful, not just the Congresswoman.

And just to be clear, you referring to a black female Member of Congress as "Aunt Esther", is both racist and sexist. This is a typical right wing tactic to tear down a very valid criticism of Trump who had both lied about past Presidents and lied about his own actions in dealing with gold star families.

Why don't you try dealing with the facts instead of lowering yourself to Trump's level of divisive discussion of the issue?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

One or two stories about the great accomplishments in Raqqa, 50 stories on some Democrat hat queen and how she lied about Trump's call the widow of a fallen solder. This has become the norm of our media since Trump took office.

You're finally getting it. The press covers what the president says (or tweets), and Trump said nothing about Raqqa, but tweeted a storm about congresswoman Wilson. So it's TRUMP who pushed 50 stories on Wilson, and none on Raqqa.

If Trump would stop the twitter storms over minor things the story would have died.

That's a fantasy. Hey! Aunt Esther attacks a Gold Star father, and what was the medias response?

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When Trump did the same, it was a month long event.

You mean when Trump made that unprecedented attack on a gold star father and when called out for it went into a monthlong twitter rage attacking the man's character? That one?

I know exactly what your sides response will be - that he attacked first. But that makes no difference, whether candidate or president, that man's son died for his country. Bush and Obama both had the mothers of fallen soldiers verbally attack them. How did they handle it?

No matter how horribly Trump behaves you are incapable of taking him to task for it or assigning him any blame. That is part of the problem. It isn't just the media it is a two way relationship.

No, it is the media, that was my only point.

Anybody can go on Twitter if Trump defends himself or attacks. Twitter only has so many people, and only a fraction of them will ever dig up what Trump is talking about. MSM is different because people believe what they say. They use MSM as the fact check of all fact checks. In their viewers minds, everything they say is Gospel.

Also my point is that when a Democrat does something close to a Republican, they are both treated way differently by the MSM. But the MSM is the extension of the Democrat party, so they make the rules whether the rules are fair or not.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

As the recent episode with the widow of the soldier killed in Niger shows, the media jackals will take anything he says and twist it to serve their narrative.

According to Wilson, Trump said "he knew what he signed up for"
According to Kelly, Trump said "he knew what he signed up for"

According to Trump, "I didn't say what Wilson claimed"

Wilson, Johnsons mother in law, and even Kelly confirmed what Trump said.

Yet Trump denied he said it.

Obama Told Police: Risking Your Lives Is Part Of 'Job You Signed Up For'

Obama said it as a thank you to rookie officers just starting their service. Not to the widow of a slain officer mourning her husband's death. Context is everything.

It seems to mean nothing according to you in this topic.

Even the General said that yes, the brave people that join our military are aware of the possible outcomes, but Trump said it in a honorary way whereas Aunt Esther used Trumps words out of context to make it sound like he meant it in a uncaring way.

The FAMILY of the serviceman said they felt his comments were disrespectful, not just the Congresswoman.

And just to be clear, you referring to a black female Member of Congress as "Aunt Esther", is both racist and sexist. This is a typical right wing tactic to tear down a very valid criticism of Trump who had both lied about past Presidents and lied about his own actions in dealing with gold star families.

Why don't you try dealing with the facts instead of lowering yourself to Trump's level of divisive discussion of the issue?

The woman reminds me of Aunt Esther. What's racist about that? Do you even know who Aunt Esther was? She was a character on a successful black sitcom that ran for a number of years.

If this pig was not with the family during that call, chances are the family would have taken the call the way it was intended just like the three other families. I believe they were coerced by a typical leftist politician that wanted to take this sad event and use it for her benefit just like the Wellman funeral or Gifford's shooting. It's just what Democrat politicians do. You know......never let a good tragedy go to waste.

 

[radical right]

And just to be clear, you referring to a black female Member of Congress as "Aunt Esther", is both racist and sexist. This is a typical right wing tactic to tear down a very valid criticism of Trump who had both lied about past Presidents and lied about his own actions in dealing with gold star families.

Mr. Haney (given name Eustace Charleston Haney) is a fictional local farmer turned salesman and con man in the rural Hooterville community who was a supporting antagonist character on the 1960s CBS television series Green Acres. He first appeared in the episode Lisa's First Day on the Farm (September 22, 1965).


You should refer to Trump as Mr. Haney.

 

[radical right]

The woman reminds me of Aunt Esther. What's racist about that? Do you even know who Aunt Esther was? She was a character on a successful black sitcom that ran for a number of years.

How do you feel about president Haney?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And just to be clear, you referring to a black female Member of Congress as "Aunt Esther", is both racist and sexist. This is a typical right wing tactic to tear down a very valid criticism of Trump who had both lied about past Presidents and lied about his own actions in dealing with gold star families.

Mr. Haney (given name Eustace Charleston Haney) is a fictional local farmer turned salesman and con man in the rural Hooterville community who was a supporting antagonist character on the 1960s CBS television series Green Acres. He first appeared in the episode Lisa's First Day on the Farm (September 22, 1965).


You should refer to Trump as Mr. Haney.

You can't do that. That would be racist!!!!!!

 

[radical right]

You should refer to Trump as Mr. Haney.

You can't do that. That would be racist!!!!!!

 

[bripat9643]

Trump has a habit of speaking before thinking. What he said may have seemed a bit off for the conversation but the only ones with cruel motives in this situation are the filthy leftists.

" Trump has a habit of speaking before thinking" an honest assessment . but have you thought out the ramification of that quality in a president? other presidents have made the same mistake from time to time, the blow back has always been fast & fury filled. we will see some of that in posts today about former presidents. when its daily it effects the efficient running of government.

You have a habit of lying, smearing and making things up. When did Obama get any "blowback" from the MSM fake news douche bags?

 

[radical right]

Someone can be a "bad dude" or someone can be "Baaad doooood"

This has nothing to do with inflection. It has to do with a big Congressthing lying about
what happened.

She wasn't lying. The mother confirmed it, as did Kelly when he repeated the same phrase as what he told Trump to say.

You're digging a hole.

 

[radical right]

Kelly described his eloquent version as what "Trump TRIED to say"

 

[Dragonlady]

According to Wilson, Trump said "he knew what he signed up for"
According to Kelly, Trump said "he knew what he signed up for"

According to Trump, "I didn't say what Wilson claimed"

Wilson, Johnsons mother in law, and even Kelly confirmed what Trump said.

Yet Trump denied he said it.

Obama Told Police: Risking Your Lives Is Part Of 'Job You Signed Up For'

Obama said it as a thank you to rookie officers just starting their service. Not to the widow of a slain officer mourning her husband's death. Context is everything.

It seems to mean nothing according to you in this topic.

Even the General said that yes, the brave people that join our military are aware of the possible outcomes, but Trump said it in a honorary way whereas Aunt Esther used Trumps words out of context to make it sound like he meant it in a uncaring way.

The FAMILY of the serviceman said they felt his comments were disrespectful, not just the Congresswoman.

And just to be clear, you referring to a black female Member of Congress as "Aunt Esther", is both racist and sexist. This is a typical right wing tactic to tear down a very valid criticism of Trump who had both lied about past Presidents and lied about his own actions in dealing with gold star families.

Why don't you try dealing with the facts instead of lowering yourself to Trump's level of divisive discussion of the issue?

The woman reminds me of Aunt Esther. What's racist about that? Do you even know who Aunt Esther was? She was a character on a successful black sitcom that ran for a number of years.

If this pig was not with the family during that call, chances are the family would have taken the call the way it was intended just like the three other families. I believe they were coerced by a typical leftist politician that wanted to take this sad event and use it for her benefit just like the Wellman funeral or Gifford's shooting. It's just what Democrat politicians do. You know......never let a good tragedy go to waste.

I'm well aware of where your reference came from which is why I called it racist and sexist.

Now you call her a pig. The only "pig" I see is the one who is disrespecting a sitting member of Congress, who happens to be a close friend of the servicenan's family.

It was Trump who started this whole mess by claiming that he wasn't trying to cover up and hide from the deaths of these four servicemen.

And as for needlessly politicizing military deaths, just let me say Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! 7 pointless investigations to discredit and defame the Obama administration. Democrats could spend the next 7 years politicizing these deaths and not come close to what Republicans did over the bodies of those four brace men.

 

[bripat9643]

The wiodow confirmed that General Kelly's description of the event was accurate. You, on the other hand, are a known lying douche bag.

Then why did Trump deny he said what Kelly (aka wilsons version) said?

He didn't, moron.

 

[bripat9643]

Kelly described his eloquent version as what "Trump TRIED to say"

The widow agreed with Kelly's characterization of Trump's remarks, you lying piece of shit.

 

[radical right]

If this pig was not with the family during that call, chances are the family would have taken the call the way it was intended just like the three other families. I believe they were coerced by a typical leftist politician that wanted to take this sad event and use it for her benefit just like the Wellman funeral or Gifford's shooting.

So you expected Trump to say something stupid?

Most people would be proud to share the presidents words of condolence with everybody who lost a loved one.

 

[radical right]

Then why did Trump deny he said what Kelly (aka wilsons version) said?

He didn't, moron.

Trump said he didn't say "he knew what he signed up for"

Even though wilson and johnson confirmed it, and Kelly repeated it.

 

[bripat9643]

Call us in Nov 2020 then you can bitch and moan if Trump has not delivered on his campaign promises. Until then you are sore losers venting.

Trump promised the the day after his inauguration, the ACA would be repealed and replaced. That the first 100 days of his administration would see the greatest changes in the history of the country. The swamp would be drained. He had a plan for infrastructure, for tax cuts, for law enforcement, for immigration, for health care, and to defeat ISIS.

Where are all these plans? Where is the legislation? Other than signing more executive orders than any President in history, what exactly has he accomplished?

Its Trump's fault the GOP establishment are not holding up their end? You are aware there are 3 separate but equal branches of government right, that Trump's not a dictator with the power to do whatever he pleases? Don't come to me with weak, intentionally dishonest BS.

Nothing is ever Trump's fault. Haven't you noticed that? His bankruptcies aren't his fault. His business failures are somebody else's fault. The Trump University fraud wasn't his fault. It was the people he hired to run it.

Even with the obstruction of the Republican Congress and Senate, Obama was able to get things done, but not Trump. But it's not his fault.

Harry Truman famously said "The buck stops here". For Trump, there's always somebody else to blame.

Again with the half truth spun narrative. Trump has done hundreds of business deals in his career, 3 or so filed for bankruptcy, pretty common in business. Trump's track record is far more successful than most business people. You also ignore government's role in the bankruptcies, take the Atlantic City casinos, are you even remotely aware of NJ's fucked up tax situation and the impact on ALL casino's in Atlantic City? Are you aware of neighboring states legalizing gambling and how Native American run casino's impacted the casino business in Atlantic City? No you are not, instead you spin a dishonest narrative about how Trump is somehow a poor business man because his casino in Atlantic City went bust.

He's declared bankruptcy 7 times and not just in Atlantic City. And no that's not common in business. No other American billionaire has gone bankrupt more than once. But points to you for parroting Donnie's lie about bankruptcy.

His hotel in Puerto Rico went bankrupt but that's the fault of the Puerto Rican government. His hotel in Toronto went bankrupt last year. Except for Mar-a-Lagos, Bedminster and his golf club in Virginia which Trump visits regularly, none of his American golf clubs are doing well and both of his golf resorts in Scotland are losing money.

His mortgage company, Trump vodka, Trump Water, Trump Steaks, Trump University, Trump Airlines - all money losing businesses. The only success Trump has had is in selling overpriced real estate to Russian Oligarchs. And his TV show. Everything else has been a bust.

That's no surprise. When the media launches a major investigation over every single word Trump says, it's smart to make sure you have all the facts at your disposal. All that shows is what a gang of petty, shallow, mean little weasals the media jackals and their snowflake allies are.

If the media was responsible and objective, this entire spat would have lasted about 10 minutes. It has now been dragging on for over 4 days simply because of the inability of the "destroy Trump at any cost" media to behave like adults and let it go.

 

[radical right]

Kelly described his eloquent version as what "Trump TRIED to say"

The widow agreed with Kelly's characterization of Trump's remarks, you lying piece of shit.

No she confirmed the words, not the tone. Kelly said it much better. Trump couldn't help himself saying the same thing, but meaning that it wasn't his fault.

That's the issue.

 

[bripat9643]

Then why did Trump deny he said what Kelly (aka wilsons version) said?

He didn't, moron.

Trump said he didn't say "he knew what he signed up for"

Even though wilson and johnson confirmed it, and Kelly repeated it.

He didn't say what the clown pig Frederica claimed. End of story.

 

[bripat9643]

Kelly described his eloquent version as what "Trump TRIED to say"

The widow agreed with Kelly's characterization of Trump's remarks, you lying piece of shit.

No she confirmed the words, not the tone. Kelly said it much better. Trump couldn't help himself saying the same thing, but meaning that it wasn't his fault.

That's the issue.

You're are an utterly shameless douche bag. That's all you are proving. How would you even know what Trump's tone was like? Kelly and the widow both confirmed that Trump's tone was respectful. You, on the other hand, are just a junkyard dog who won't let go of an old bone.