The repub party is testing our country's democracy

[BackAgain]

Anything that serves to help elect Republicans is wonderful to you.

Another false statement from the always ignorant Mare. Indeed, if you had the ability to think, you’d notice that (as you pointed out regarding the electoral college) it might help my Presidential preference to win of California enacted a law allowing electoral votes to be split proportionally.

The electoral college gives political power to arbitrary lines drawn on a map.

No. It prevents some of the more populous states from controlling the outcomes of Presidential elections.

I don’t think the government should be based on arbitrary decisions.

Ra you do. It’s just as arbitrary to go with a pure democratic majority. It basically gives total control to the states with big populous Democrat cities. That’s what you want.

The electoral college was designed to prevent assholes like Trump from winning office. It no longer serves its purpose.

It prevented the assholes, Gore and Shrillary, from winning. It serves its purpose very well indeed.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump lost the popular vote by 7 million. People voted by mail because were in a pandemic. And trump didn't win in person voting in all 50 states.

Tell it to fivethirthyeight, Trump won the in person IN ALL 50 States

 

[Marener]

No. It prevents some of the more populous states from controlling the outcomes of Presidential elections.

In a national popular vote, states don’t control anything. No one wins states. No one loses stares. States no longer matter.

As opposed to what happens now where elections are controlled by some random states because they’re swing states. The problem you are claiming to want to avoid, it already exists.

Ra you do. It’s just as arbitrary to go with a pure democratic majority. It basically gives total control to the states with big populous Democrat cities. That’s what you want.

There’s nothing arbitrary about winning a majority of people’s votes.

It prevented the assholes, Gore and Shrillary, from winning. It serves its purpose very well indeed.

So you’re saying it’s purpose is to prefect Democratic candidates from winning. Sounds like I was right about why you support it.

 

[BackAgain]

In a national popular vote, states don’t control anything. No one wins states. No one loses stares. States no longer matter.

Not just false, but massively and demonstrably false. And I just cited two of the more recent examples.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It's only dysfunctional when democrats lose, huh.

The right’s contempt for democracy is predicated on conservatives’ contempt for the will of the people – indeed, the right’s fear of the will of the people – the ‘mob rule’ lie Republicans resort to is proof of that.

The fact is that Republicans know that the majority of Americans oppose the Republican agenda – and in response Republicans seek to undermine democracy and hobble our democratic institutions.

 

[BlindBoo]

In a national popular vote, states don’t control anything. No one wins states. No one loses stares. States no longer matter.

The states would still count the votes.

There’s nothing arbitrary about winning a majority of people’s votes.

That's true, and I support a national popular vote for president but I don't support the interstate compact. The reason is because a change like that is dependent on future state representatives in the states of the compact and their continued support. It would be better done by an Amendment to the Constitution.

 

[Marener]

Not just false, but massively and demonstrably false. And I just cited two of the more recent examples.

Not at all. The only thing that matters in a national popular vote is people. States have no power. People do.

In your examples, the election was determined by a handful of random swing states. What you’re complaining about, a small number of states having exaggerated power, is happening now. Under a national popular vote, that can’t happen.

 

[BackAgain]

Not at all. The only thing that matters in a national popular vote is people. States have no power. People do.

You’re a tard.

Shrillary got more popular votes yet lost because of the Electoral College.

Gore got more popular votes yet lost because of the Electoral College.

Anything beyond those two historical facts is just you bloviating — futilely.

 

[kaz]

Republicans are pushing American democracy to its breaking point

They are working within the boundaries of the democratic system in order to tear it down.

www.aljazeera.com

-Book Bans
-Attacks on jurist and judges
-Attacks on election workers
-Denial of Fair Elections

The repub party is testing the very fabric of our democracy. It seems that the judiciary is the only remaining safe guard standing in the way of repubs turning the US into another autocracy. Their quest for one party rule is dangerous to not only our country, but democracies world wide. You want to see an example of a country's leader who is putting his self interest over the laws of their land? Just look at what the far right sector of the Knesset in Isrrael is doing on the orders of Netanyahu. He is trying to get out from under crimes he has committed by usurping the legal system. If trump is re-elected, he will use this as a model to do the same in the US.

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/24/1189720508/israel-politics-netanyahu-judiciary

Democracy is over, you ended it. You can relax now

 

[kaz]

And there are many Republicans who are against this attempt. They can see what's happening, and they are also comparing what is happening here to Europe of 90 years ago.

Much of the base really doesn't understand what it's asking for. The rest of the base actually wants it. They want to be ruled by a strongman and authoritarianism.

This from a Bidenista, classic. You live in a fantasy land that you think Democrats aren't a risk and Republicans are. Up is down, left is right, it's just a self delusion

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Republicans are pushing American democracy to its breaking point

They are working within the boundaries of the democratic system in order to tear it down.

www.aljazeera.com

-Book Bans
-Attacks on jurist and judges
-Attacks on election workers
-Denial of Fair Elections

The repub party is testing the very fabric of our democracy. It seems that the judiciary is the only remaining safe guard standing in the way of repubs turning the US into another autocracy. Their quest for one party rule is dangerous to not only our country, but democracies world wide. You want to see an example of a country's leader who is putting his self interest over the laws of their land? Just look at what the far right sector of the Knesset in Isrrael [sic] is doing on the orders of Netanyahu. He is trying to get out from under crimes he has committed by usurping the legal system. If trump is re-elected, he will use this as a model to do the same in the US.

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/24/1189720508/israel-politics-netanyahu-judiciary

How are Republicans responsible for the attacks that Democraps have been making on the very foundations of our REPUBLIC (not a “democracy”)?

 

[Votar Roja]

-Book Bans

Only a filthy degenerate Democrat would call removing pornography from elementary schools a "book ban".

Democrats are sick groomers sexualizing children in America's schools.

 

[Marener]

You’re a tard.

Shrillary got more popular votes yet lost because of the Electoral College.

Gore got more popular votes yet lost because of the Electoral College.

Anything beyond those two historical facts is just you bloviating — futilely.

Yeah, I know. You support the electoral college because it helps Republicans win.

It doesn’t change the fact that if we get rid of the electoral college, the election will finally be determined by the people. Not states.

 

[playtime]

And there are many Republicans who are against this attempt. They can see what's happening, and they are also comparing what is happening here to Europe of 90 years ago.

Much of the base really doesn't understand what it's asking for. The rest of the base actually wants it. They want to be ruled by a strongman and authoritarianism.

you reminded me of this

 

[BackAgain]

Yeah, I know. You support the electoral college because it helps Republicans win.

Already refuted. Try something original and accurate.

It doesn’t change the fact that if we get rid of the electoral college, the election will finally be determined by the people. Not states.

Which is why we have an electoral college.

It will continue to be one of our nation’s more clever inventions.

 

[JimH52]

Republicans: Fix what's broken.
Democrats: Tear the whole thing down and start over, with no plan or goalsRepubs: If we lose, the election was rigged. If we win, the election was

Only a filthy degenerate Democrat would call removing pornography from elementary schools a "book ban".

Democrats are sick groomers sexualizing children in America's schools.

To Kill Mockingbird is porn? You fascist repubs thinks you know what is moral....all the while supporting one of the most immoral humans alive.

 

[themirrorthief]

Your Democratic Party has blown up our border and the US justice system. Wake up, you are supporting the demise of your country.

the democrats have been great for communism

 

[Nostra]

It is my actual objection. The Electoral College may have served a purpose long ago, but it's not even coming close to doing that anymore.

Do you know which state has the most Trump voters?

California. I think their votes should count. You don’t. Sad.

So should we get rid of it?

 

[Marener]

Already refutes. Try something original and accurate.

Which is why we have an electoral college.

It will continue to be one of our nation’s more clever inventions.

The electoral college was intended to prevent people from voting for president so that demagogue populists like Trump couldn’t get elected.

It no longer serves that purpose. It’s now just a dysfunctional arbitrary crap shoot for who can win a couple of swing states.

 

[Marener]

So should we get rid of it?

I just said.

So that way everyone’s vote counts.