"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

[PredFan]

The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees:

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

When watching the videos of yesterday's protest and counter protest, a large number of the people at the protest were armed - many had helmets and shields as well as various weapons ranging from clubs to pepper spray to guns.

It's apparent that these people were at best anticipating violence, and may have intended to incite violence.
The Constitution does NOT have a right to violent protest. It does note cite a right to gather as an armed mob.

The violence at yesterdays protest would probably have been a whole lot less if no one on either side had weapons of any type, and if they did not any protective gear.

Even wearing protective gear shows that they are anticipating violence. Anyone who foes to a protest while anticipating violence has no right to go to that protest.

It seems that protest groups go far beyond their Constitutional right - if they intend to incite violence or even anticipate violence, they are no longer within their Constitutional rights.

In the future, if anyone shows up at a protest or counter protest with weapons or protective gear, they should immediately be arrested. If a sizable number have weapons or protective gear, the police should use whatever means necessary to end the protest!

Now point out how many people were shot yesterday. Mkay?

Apparently wherever there were weapons on display the Antifa assholes decided not to attack anyone.

Regardless of what weapon was used, a person was murdered yesterday. If no one had any weapons or protective gear, there would have been less violence and passions would not have risen to the level that hey did. Most likely no one would have been killed.

Wow! What utter nonsense. You think that this is the first time there's been violence at a protest?

 

[Hum Dinger]

On a personal note, since the 1960s I have never attended any political protests, simply because I fear that some jerk will turn the protest into a riot.
I also believe that peaceful protests are impotent. Only violent protests get the news coverage that makes them politically effective.

This is a failure of the news media.

Because of this there will always be some assholes that try to turn protests into riots.

This are usually 'professional' activists. Since they get paid for what they are doing they may not even give a shit about the political issue that they are protesting - just the level of impact the protest has,

 

[BluesLegend]

To peaceably assembly yes, to be a racist stupid shit no.

People have a right to peacefully assemble - no matter how repulsive their views.

Any counter protests must be peaceful.

They are entitled to their views, their actions on the other hand are restricted by Constitutional Law.

I am missing your point here, because I don't think you have one.

You assume the assembly was lawful, see "Unlawful Assembly".

 

[Auld Phart]

The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees:

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

When watching the videos of yesterday's protest and counter protest, a large number of the people at the protest were armed - many had helmets and shields as well as various weapons ranging from clubs to pepper spray to guns.

It's apparent that these people were at best anticipating violence, and may have intended to incite violence.
The Constitution does NOT have a right to violent protest. It does note cite a right to gather as an armed mob.

The violence at yesterdays protest would probably have been a whole lot less if no one on either side had weapons of any type, and if they did not any protective gear.

Even wearing protective gear shows that they are anticipating violence. Anyone who foes to a protest while anticipating violence has no right to go to that protest.

It seems that protest groups go far beyond their Constitutional right - if they intend to incite violence or even anticipate violence, they are no longer within their Constitutional rights.

In the future, if anyone shows up at a protest or counter protest with weapons or protective gear, they should immediately be arrested. If a sizable number have weapons or protective gear, the police should use whatever means necessary to end the protest!

Now point out how many people were shot yesterday. Mkay?

Apparently wherever there were weapons on display the Antifa assholes decided not to attack anyone.

Regardless of what weapon was used, a person was murdered yesterday. If no one had any weapons or protective gear, there would have been less violence and passions would not have risen to the level that hey did. Most likely no one would have been killed.

The person that died was hit by a car.

Are cars weapons?

Should everyone be forced to walk to protests?

 

[Hum Dinger]

You meet force with force. It has been that way since the dawn of time. The left bused paid counter protestors in. They came for one purpose. They wanted trouble, they got it. Simple as that.

You do not have the right to use force. It's the job of the police to meet force with force, not yours.

 

[Hum Dinger]

The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees:

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

When watching the videos of yesterday's protest and counter protest, a large number of the people at the protest were armed - many had helmets and shields as well as various weapons ranging from clubs to pepper spray to guns.

It's apparent that these people were at best anticipating violence, and may have intended to incite violence.
The Constitution does NOT have a right to violent protest. It does note cite a right to gather as an armed mob.

The violence at yesterdays protest would probably have been a whole lot less if no one on either side had weapons of any type, and if they did not any protective gear.

Even wearing protective gear shows that they are anticipating violence. Anyone who foes to a protest while anticipating violence has no right to go to that protest.

It seems that protest groups go far beyond their Constitutional right - if they intend to incite violence or even anticipate violence, they are no longer within their Constitutional rights.

In the future, if anyone shows up at a protest or counter protest with weapons or protective gear, they should immediately be arrested. If a sizable number have weapons or protective gear, the police should use whatever means necessary to end the protest!

Now point out how many people were shot yesterday. Mkay?

Apparently wherever there were weapons on display the Antifa assholes decided not to attack anyone.

Regardless of what weapon was used, a person was murdered yesterday. If no one had any weapons or protective gear, there would have been less violence and passions would not have risen to the level that hey did. Most likely no one would have been killed.

The person that died was hit by a car.

Are cars weapons?

Should everyone be forced to walk to protests?

If there were no weapons or protective gear the protest would probably have not gotten as violent as it did. This car attack was precipitated by previous violence.

 

[BluesLegend]

The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees:

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

When watching the videos of yesterday's protest and counter protest, a large number of the people at the protest were armed - many had helmets and shields as well as various weapons ranging from clubs to pepper spray to guns.

It's apparent that these people were at best anticipating violence, and may have intended to incite violence.
The Constitution does NOT have a right to violent protest. It does note cite a right to gather as an armed mob.

The violence at yesterdays protest would probably have been a whole lot less if no one on either side had weapons of any type, and if they did not any protective gear.

Even wearing protective gear shows that they are anticipating violence. Anyone who foes to a protest while anticipating violence has no right to go to that protest.

It seems that protest groups go far beyond their Constitutional right - if they intend to incite violence or even anticipate violence, they are no longer within their Constitutional rights.

In the future, if anyone shows up at a protest or counter protest with weapons or protective gear, they should immediately be arrested. If a sizable number have weapons or protective gear, the police should use whatever means necessary to end the protest!

Your premise is flawed in the basis that the protesters had every reason to believe that they would need to defend themselves. And they were right! Thread fail... NEXT!!!

If they believe that there will be a need to defend themselves, then they apparently believe that the protest will be violent.

They only have a right to peaceful protest. They do not have a right to violent protest.

Tell that to the antifa thugs throwing urine and starting fights.

As I've said the prohibition against violence applies to everyone equally.

Yet, when you have proof of how violent liberals are, it's only prudent to be armed. Cry and wail about it all you want, NOTHING will change that and we are NOT going to be disarmed.

Obama and Democrats fomented lawlessness and division, well here we are. Without division and lawlessness, bigotry and intolerance the Democratic party would not exist.

 

[2aguy]

The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees:

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

When watching the videos of yesterday's protest and counter protest, a large number of the people at the protest were armed - many had helmets and shields as well as various weapons ranging from clubs to pepper spray to guns.

It's apparent that these people were at best anticipating violence, and may have intended to incite violence.
The Constitution does NOT have a right to violent protest. It does note cite a right to gather as an armed mob.

The violence at yesterdays protest would probably have been a whole lot less if no one on either side had weapons of any type, and if they did not any protective gear.

Even wearing protective gear shows that they are anticipating violence. Anyone who foes to a protest while anticipating violence has no right to go to that protest.

It seems that protest groups go far beyond their Constitutional right - if they intend to incite violence or even anticipate violence, they are no longer within their Constitutional rights.

In the future, if anyone shows up at a protest or counter protest with weapons or protective gear, they should immediately be arrested. If a sizable number have weapons or protective gear, the police should use whatever means necessary to end the protest!

Now point out how many people were shot yesterday. Mkay?

Apparently wherever there were weapons on display the Antifa assholes decided not to attack anyone.

Regardless of what weapon was used, a person was murdered yesterday. If no one had any weapons or protective gear, there would have been less violence and passions would not have risen to the level that hey did. Most likely no one would have been killed.

No....it all goes to the first one to use physical violence....and that is on antifa fascists....the guy who ran people over is also to blame, and should get the death penalty.

Anyone who uses violence should be arrested.

Only if they are the aggressor. If you are attacked you have a right to defend yourself. Antifa has shown they have no problem attacking peaceful people who are doing nothing other than to appear in a public place to express their political views. Antifa has been the aggressor at all the events they have been at, including attacking unarmed, peaceful rally attendees and even the police.....

 

[2aguy]

The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees:

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

When watching the videos of yesterday's protest and counter protest, a large number of the people at the protest were armed - many had helmets and shields as well as various weapons ranging from clubs to pepper spray to guns.

It's apparent that these people were at best anticipating violence, and may have intended to incite violence.
The Constitution does NOT have a right to violent protest. It does note cite a right to gather as an armed mob.

The violence at yesterdays protest would probably have been a whole lot less if no one on either side had weapons of any type, and if they did not any protective gear.

Even wearing protective gear shows that they are anticipating violence. Anyone who foes to a protest while anticipating violence has no right to go to that protest.

It seems that protest groups go far beyond their Constitutional right - if they intend to incite violence or even anticipate violence, they are no longer within their Constitutional rights.

In the future, if anyone shows up at a protest or counter protest with weapons or protective gear, they should immediately be arrested. If a sizable number have weapons or protective gear, the police should use whatever means necessary to end the protest!

Now point out how many people were shot yesterday. Mkay?

Apparently wherever there were weapons on display the Antifa assholes decided not to attack anyone.

Regardless of what weapon was used, a person was murdered yesterday. If no one had any weapons or protective gear, there would have been less violence and passions would not have risen to the level that hey did. Most likely no one would have been killed.

The person that died was hit by a car.

Are cars weapons?

Should everyone be forced to walk to protests?

If there were no weapons or protective gear the protest would probably have not gotten as violent as it did. This car attack was precipitated by previous violence.

Yes....antifa members threw one or more objects at the car...that does not give him the right to drive over people, unless it was to escape from threat of imminent bodily harm or death, and that does not appear to be the case here.

 

[Hum Dinger]

The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees:

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

When watching the videos of yesterday's protest and counter protest, a large number of the people at the protest were armed - many had helmets and shields as well as various weapons ranging from clubs to pepper spray to guns.

It's apparent that these people were at best anticipating violence, and may have intended to incite violence.
The Constitution does NOT have a right to violent protest. It does note cite a right to gather as an armed mob.

The violence at yesterdays protest would probably have been a whole lot less if no one on either side had weapons of any type, and if they did not any protective gear.

Even wearing protective gear shows that they are anticipating violence. Anyone who foes to a protest while anticipating violence has no right to go to that protest.

It seems that protest groups go far beyond their Constitutional right - if they intend to incite violence or even anticipate violence, they are no longer within their Constitutional rights.

In the future, if anyone shows up at a protest or counter protest with weapons or protective gear, they should immediately be arrested. If a sizable number have weapons or protective gear, the police should use whatever means necessary to end the protest!

Now point out how many people were shot yesterday. Mkay?

Apparently wherever there were weapons on display the Antifa assholes decided not to attack anyone.

Regardless of what weapon was used, a person was murdered yesterday. If no one had any weapons or protective gear, there would have been less violence and passions would not have risen to the level that hey did. Most likely no one would have been killed.

Wow! What utter nonsense. You think that this is the first time there's been violence at a protest?

Obviously this was not the first time there has been violence at protests.

That is why the police should confiscate any weapons or protective gear. If needed tey should arrest people who are armed, and if neede they should disperse the protest entirely.

Any reasonable cause for the police believing that a protest will turn violent should justify action by the police - or National Guard if needed.

 

[postman]

The person that died was hit by a car.

Are cars weapons?

Should everyone be forced to walk to protests?

You should be able to park your car as close to a protest, as you do to an airport terminal.

 

[2aguy]

The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees:

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

When watching the videos of yesterday's protest and counter protest, a large number of the people at the protest were armed - many had helmets and shields as well as various weapons ranging from clubs to pepper spray to guns.

It's apparent that these people were at best anticipating violence, and may have intended to incite violence.
The Constitution does NOT have a right to violent protest. It does note cite a right to gather as an armed mob.

The violence at yesterdays protest would probably have been a whole lot less if no one on either side had weapons of any type, and if they did not any protective gear.

Even wearing protective gear shows that they are anticipating violence. Anyone who foes to a protest while anticipating violence has no right to go to that protest.

It seems that protest groups go far beyond their Constitutional right - if they intend to incite violence or even anticipate violence, they are no longer within their Constitutional rights.

In the future, if anyone shows up at a protest or counter protest with weapons or protective gear, they should immediately be arrested. If a sizable number have weapons or protective gear, the police should use whatever means necessary to end the protest!

Now point out how many people were shot yesterday. Mkay?

Apparently wherever there were weapons on display the Antifa assholes decided not to attack anyone.

Regardless of what weapon was used, a person was murdered yesterday. If no one had any weapons or protective gear, there would have been less violence and passions would not have risen to the level that hey did. Most likely no one would have been killed.

Wow! What utter nonsense. You think that this is the first time there's been violence at a protest?

Obviously this was not the first time there has been violence at protests.

That is why the police should confiscate any weapons or protective gear. If needed tey should arrest people who are armed, and if neede they should disperse the protest entirely.

Any reasonable cause for the police believing that a protest will turn violent should justify action by the police - or National Guard if needed.

No...if it is legal to carry a weapon in public...it is legal, and the police have no ability to disarm those people. They have complete ability to arrest violent attackers. And thank you for showing that you are more than willing to strip Rights away from people who have done nothing wrong. That is quintessential leftist thinking.

 

[Hum Dinger]

The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees:

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

When watching the videos of yesterday's protest and counter protest, a large number of the people at the protest were armed - many had helmets and shields as well as various weapons ranging from clubs to pepper spray to guns.

It's apparent that these people were at best anticipating violence, and may have intended to incite violence.
The Constitution does NOT have a right to violent protest. It does note cite a right to gather as an armed mob.

The violence at yesterdays protest would probably have been a whole lot less if no one on either side had weapons of any type, and if they did not any protective gear.

Even wearing protective gear shows that they are anticipating violence. Anyone who foes to a protest while anticipating violence has no right to go to that protest.

It seems that protest groups go far beyond their Constitutional right - if they intend to incite violence or even anticipate violence, they are no longer within their Constitutional rights.

In the future, if anyone shows up at a protest or counter protest with weapons or protective gear, they should immediately be arrested. If a sizable number have weapons or protective gear, the police should use whatever means necessary to end the protest!

Now point out how many people were shot yesterday. Mkay?

Apparently wherever there were weapons on display the Antifa assholes decided not to attack anyone.

Regardless of what weapon was used, a person was murdered yesterday. If no one had any weapons or protective gear, there would have been less violence and passions would not have risen to the level that hey did. Most likely no one would have been killed.

No....it all goes to the first one to use physical violence....and that is on antifa fascists....the guy who ran people over is also to blame, and should get the death penalty.

Anyone who uses violence should be arrested.

Only if they are the aggressor. If you are attacked you have a right to defend yourself. Antifa has shown they have no problem attacking peaceful people who are doing nothing other than to appear in a public place to express their political views. Antifa has been the aggressor at all the events they have been at, including attacking unarmed, peaceful rally attendees and even the police.....

If AntiFa or anyone else starts violence, it;s the job of the police to arrest them. It is not your right to be violent beyond the minimal to immediately defend yourself.

 

[PredFan]

The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees:

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

When watching the videos of yesterday's protest and counter protest, a large number of the people at the protest were armed - many had helmets and shields as well as various weapons ranging from clubs to pepper spray to guns.

It's apparent that these people were at best anticipating violence, and may have intended to incite violence.
The Constitution does NOT have a right to violent protest. It does note cite a right to gather as an armed mob.

The violence at yesterdays protest would probably have been a whole lot less if no one on either side had weapons of any type, and if they did not any protective gear.

Even wearing protective gear shows that they are anticipating violence. Anyone who foes to a protest while anticipating violence has no right to go to that protest.

It seems that protest groups go far beyond their Constitutional right - if they intend to incite violence or even anticipate violence, they are no longer within their Constitutional rights.

In the future, if anyone shows up at a protest or counter protest with weapons or protective gear, they should immediately be arrested. If a sizable number have weapons or protective gear, the police should use whatever means necessary to end the protest!

Now point out how many people were shot yesterday. Mkay?

Apparently wherever there were weapons on display the Antifa assholes decided not to attack anyone.

Regardless of what weapon was used, a person was murdered yesterday. If no one had any weapons or protective gear, there would have been less violence and passions would not have risen to the level that hey did. Most likely no one would have been killed.

Wow! What utter nonsense. You think that this is the first time there's been violence at a protest?

Obviously this was not the first time there has been violence at protests.

That is why the police should confiscate any weapons or protective gear. If needed tey should arrest people who are armed, and if neede they should disperse the protest entirely.

Any reasonable cause for the police believing that a protest will turn violent should justify action by the police - or National Guard if needed.

2nd Amendment. the have a right to be armed. A protest doesn't become violent simply because someone is carrying.

 

[postman]

Obama and Democrats fomented lawlessness and division, well here we are. Without division and lawlessness, bigotry and intolerance the Democratic party would not exist.

Yet under Trump protests have turned DEADLY. With Mr. alt-right facing 2nd degree murder. What's his excuse for running down a crowd of people like ISIS started doing? Black Cars matter?

 

[PredFan]

Now point out how many people were shot yesterday. Mkay?

Apparently wherever there were weapons on display the Antifa assholes decided not to attack anyone.

Regardless of what weapon was used, a person was murdered yesterday. If no one had any weapons or protective gear, there would have been less violence and passions would not have risen to the level that hey did. Most likely no one would have been killed.

No....it all goes to the first one to use physical violence....and that is on antifa fascists....the guy who ran people over is also to blame, and should get the death penalty.

Anyone who uses violence should be arrested.

Only if they are the aggressor. If you are attacked you have a right to defend yourself. Antifa has shown they have no problem attacking peaceful people who are doing nothing other than to appear in a public place to express their political views. Antifa has been the aggressor at all the events they have been at, including attacking unarmed, peaceful rally attendees and even the police.....

If AntiFa or anyone else starts violence, it;s the job of the police to arrest them. It is not your right to be violent beyond the minimal to immediately defend yourself.

And who is saying other wise?

 

[2aguy]

Now point out how many people were shot yesterday. Mkay?

Apparently wherever there were weapons on display the Antifa assholes decided not to attack anyone.

Regardless of what weapon was used, a person was murdered yesterday. If no one had any weapons or protective gear, there would have been less violence and passions would not have risen to the level that hey did. Most likely no one would have been killed.

No....it all goes to the first one to use physical violence....and that is on antifa fascists....the guy who ran people over is also to blame, and should get the death penalty.

Anyone who uses violence should be arrested.

Only if they are the aggressor. If you are attacked you have a right to defend yourself. Antifa has shown they have no problem attacking peaceful people who are doing nothing other than to appear in a public place to express their political views. Antifa has been the aggressor at all the events they have been at, including attacking unarmed, peaceful rally attendees and even the police.....

If AntiFa or anyone else starts violence, it;s the job of the police to arrest them. It is not your right to be violent beyond the minimal to immediately defend yourself.

Yes.....exactly.

 

[RealDave]

The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees:

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

When watching the videos of yesterday's protest and counter protest, a large number of the people at the protest were armed - many had helmets and shields as well as various weapons ranging from clubs to pepper spray to guns.

It's apparent that these people were at best anticipating violence, and may have intended to incite violence.
The Constitution does NOT have a right to violent protest. It does note cite a right to gather as an armed mob.

The violence at yesterdays protest would probably have been a whole lot less if no one on either side had weapons of any type, and if they did not any protective gear.

Even wearing protective gear shows that they are anticipating violence. Anyone who foes to a protest while anticipating violence has no right to go to that protest.

It seems that protest groups go far beyond their Constitutional right - if they intend to incite violence or even anticipate violence, they are no longer within their Constitutional rights. Why is that?

In the future, if anyone shows up at a protest or counter protest with weapons or protective gear, they should immediately be arrested. If a sizable number have weapons or protective gear, the police should use whatever means necessary to end the protest!

Now point out how many people were shot yesterday. Mkay?

Apparently wherever there were weapons on display the Antifa assholes decided not to attack anyone.

Funny chit. The assholes were your white supremacist assholes who I saw using their Nazi torches as weapons.

Fuck you & your white supremacist friends.

 

[postman]

2nd Amendment. the have a right to be armed. A protest doesn't become violent simply because someone is carrying.

No, but if it becomes violent, it becomes DEADLY simply because someone is carrying.

 

[PredFan]

Obama and Democrats fomented lawlessness and division, well here we are. Without division and lawlessness, bigotry and intolerance the Democratic party would not exist.

Yet under Trump protests have turned DEADLY. With Mr. alt-right facing 2nd degree murder. What's his excuse for running down a crowd of people like ISIS started doing? Black Cars matter?

Really? Who died in the Berkeley protests? Who died in the hundreds of other pro-Trump rallies? You are talking nonsense.