The Right To Bear Arms

[P@triot]

Sorry progressives...firearms are here to stay.

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[P@triot]

Guns should be banned from society not just schools.

Cause that worked soooooooo well in all of these schools. And Chicago. And Washington D.C.

Criminals don’t obey the law, stupid.

 

[jasonnfree]

I think you're a hypocrite who only believes in sympathy for crime victims when they say what you want to hear.

But hey, if you think it's more "feminine" to be raped and killed than to defend yourself, you just go on with your bad self. I'll be over here, not giving a rat's ass about the opinion of the likes of you.

You live in fear and paranoia, I've known thousands of females who don't. Sucks to be you I am sorry. If you can afford traveling overseas go see it for yourself. You don't have to have a gun to be safe.

Because I'm a much better human being than you are, I hope you're never put in a position to realize what a delusion that "safety" of yours is. You're too busy worrying about being "gentle and ladylike" to be able to fight for your life successfully, the way I did.

I don' have to be paranoid and on guard at all times. You can, live your life as you wish.

No, you have to be, you just aren't, because you're unforgivably stupid and naive, in addition to being a nasty specimen of particularly vile garbage.

Why am I a vile garbage?

Because you don't march to the beat set by the very extreme right on this board. They tolerate no opinions other than what they believe. They have no clue what America and patriotism is all about. Luckily, most republicans aren't that way.

 

[P@triot]

Guns should be banned from society not just schools.

The U.S. Constitution says otherwise. The U.S. Constitution trumps your uninformed opinion.

 

[P@triot]

They have no clue what America and patriotism is all about.

It is certainly not about mocking women who were the victims of terrible assaults, snowflake.

 

[Rigby5]

You can, live your life as you wish.

We are Americans. We will whether you like it or not. Now go home, son.

One day guns will be banned and kids can be safer in schools, like in other countries.

Obviously it would be illegal to ban firearms from private individuals, and still keep armed police and the miliary.
So they will never be banned, and there is not a country in the world that has banned firearms.
Police and the military everywhere have firearms.
What you have to decide is whether a country more free is only the police and military have firearms, or everyone honest can have them?

 

[Rigby5]

I think you're a hypocrite who only believes in sympathy for crime victims when they say what you want to hear.

But hey, if you think it's more "feminine" to be raped and killed than to defend yourself, you just go on with your bad self. I'll be over here, not giving a rat's ass about the opinion of the likes of you.

You live in fear and paranoia, I've known thousands of females who don't. Sucks to be you I am sorry. If you can afford traveling overseas go see it for yourself. You don't have to have a gun to be safe.

Because I'm a much better human being than you are, I hope you're never put in a position to realize what a delusion that "safety" of yours is. You're too busy worrying about being "gentle and ladylike" to be able to fight for your life successfully, the way I did.

I don' have to be paranoid and on guard at all times. You can, live your life as you wish.

No, you have to be, you just aren't, because you're unforgivably stupid and naive, in addition to being a nasty specimen of particularly vile garbage.

Why am I a vile garbage?

The reason why would be not only because federal gun control is inherently illegal under the constitution, but because it would violate the whole principle of a democratic republic, where equality means the police and military can't have more authority than any individuals have.

 

[Rigby5]

One day guns will be banned and kids can be safer in schools, like in other countries.

Uh...the guns were banned in the school. That’s why those children died.

Idiotic reasoning.

No, the reasoning is correct, that you have to use firearms in order to actually defend against any of the current dangers.
The problem with the Florida school is that they only had one guard, and he chickened out.
But if the gun control people had their way, the guard would be disarmed anyway, and useless.
But anyone who then made, stole, smuggled or other obtained a firearm, could kill however many he pleased.
Firearms are the only means of defense anyone knows about currently.
Attempting to ban firearms is just stupid.
Those intend on murder will not be stopped by a ban.

 

[Papageorgio]

You are a pure example of the ignorant dumb american....have you ever left your county?

And you are the epitome of the immature, idealist, subservient foreigner. Cecilie1200 provides link after link after link proving you are dead-wrong and your only idiotic response is to call her “ignorant”.

So let me get this straight - she’s “ignorant” for knowing the facts and sharing them with you? Every time the left loses an argument they get all pissed off and scream “you are ignorant”. So juvenile.

I'm no left or right. I'm a human who don't like to see other humans killed in a barbaric way here in the US. I want them to be as safe as I was overseas. Too much to ask for ?

You are left, that makes you non-human.

 

[Papageorgio]

Open your mind, get rid of your paranoia and go enjoy life.

Says the paranoid freak who is scared stupid of inanimate objects such as firearms...

One of the reasons I have a gun is so that I CAN go and enjoy life, without having to worry about rapists, muggers, car-jackers . . .

Or is Miss "America so scary and violent" NOW telling us that that was a lie?

I hate to be you. Walking around paranoid. With the attitude shown in your responses...Is men that have to worry about being sexually assaulted. You lost your femininity lady.

Her view is shaped by her life experience, how dare you demean women because of their personal experience. Women have a right to blow the head off anyone that tries to assualt them. You claim to be peaceful but will allow women to be raped with no defense. How many women have been involved in mass shootings?

 

[Papageorgio]

So in Britain they removed the guns and the murder rate went up, how does that make us safer? The same happened in Australia, it went down the first year but then trended up, people found other ways to kill.

A graph is better than a thousand word.

And facts are better than a billion graphs. Now stop being a left-wing coward and address @Papageorgio’s questions head on. How does removing firearms make us safer when the murder rates went up in England and in Australia after they did that?

It was debunked many times. Why is only the US that has mass shootings and leads the way in deaths from violent crimes and guns per capita?

No it hasn’t you just won’t address it or any other issue because you only want one answer.

 

[Rigby5]

You are a pure example of the ignorant dumb american....have you ever left your county?

And you are the epitome of the immature, idealist, subservient foreigner. Cecilie1200 provides link after link after link proving you are dead-wrong and your only idiotic response is to call her “ignorant”.

So let me get this straight - she’s “ignorant” for knowing the facts and sharing them with you? Every time the left loses an argument they get all pissed off and scream “you are ignorant”. So juvenile.

I'm no left or right. I'm a human who don't like to see other humans killed in a barbaric way here in the US. I want them to be as safe as I was overseas. Too much to ask for ?

You are left, that makes you non-human.

You are getting carried away. I am extreme left, and also extremely against any gun control because that would break the democratic republic. Equality under the laws means that police and the military can have these weapons because all individuals can.

 

[Rigby5]

You live in fear and paranoia, I've known thousands of females who don't. Sucks to be you I am sorry. If you can afford traveling overseas go see it for yourself. You don't have to have a gun to be safe.

Because I'm a much better human being than you are, I hope you're never put in a position to realize what a delusion that "safety" of yours is. You're too busy worrying about being "gentle and ladylike" to be able to fight for your life successfully, the way I did.

I don' have to be paranoid and on guard at all times. You can, live your life as you wish.

No, you have to be, you just aren't, because you're unforgivably stupid and naive, in addition to being a nasty specimen of particularly vile garbage.

Why am I a vile garbage?

Because you don't march to the beat set by the very extreme right on this board. They tolerate no opinions other than what they believe. They have no clue what America and patriotism is all about. Luckily, most republicans aren't that way.

The constitution is very clear. It says between the 2nd and 10 amendments, that there can ONLY be state and local weapons laws. Any federal weapons laws are strictly prohibited by the Constitution.

 

[Papageorgio]

You are a pure example of the ignorant dumb american....have you ever left your county?

And you are the epitome of the immature, idealist, subservient foreigner. Cecilie1200 provides link after link after link proving you are dead-wrong and your only idiotic response is to call her “ignorant”.

So let me get this straight - she’s “ignorant” for knowing the facts and sharing them with you? Every time the left loses an argument they get all pissed off and scream “you are ignorant”. So juvenile.

I'm no left or right. I'm a human who don't like to see other humans killed in a barbaric way here in the US. I want them to be as safe as I was overseas. Too much to ask for ?

You are left, that makes you non-human.

You are getting carried away. I am extreme left, and also extremely against any gun control because that would break the democratic republic. Equality under the laws means that police and the military can have these weapons because all individuals can.

You sound like a liberal not an extreme left.

 

[P@triot]

The constitution is very clear. It says between the 2nd and 10 amendments, that there can ONLY be state and local weapons laws. Any federal weapons laws are strictly prohibited by the Constitution.

That’s not accurate Rigby5. A state cannot create firearm laws any more than the federal government can. It is a constitutional right and states cannot impede on rights.

But I love where your head is at regarding the 10th Amendment. You’re the type of constitutional abiding liberal that I could absolutely work with. Wish everyone on the left was like you.

 

[Rigby5]

Maybe not obsolete but antiquated, out of date...

... it needs to be updated to reflect the times...

... and the threat of overkill firepower...

... for the average citizen.

Nonsense.
In revolutionary times, someone with a blunderbuss could kill a dozen people with a single shot.
Grapeshot canisters could kill hundreds of people in a single shot.
An AR is from the 1960s, has been around for over 50 years, it is about the most popular firearm made or owned, there are over 10 million owned in the US, and they are almost never used in any crime at all.
Nor does it have a rate of fire any greater than any other firearm.
You have to pull the trigger once for each bullet.
Shotguns and pistols are many times faster because they either shoot multiple shots be trigger pull, or they have so much less recoil.

 

[Rigby5]

The constitution is very clear. It says between the 2nd and 10 amendments, that there can ONLY be state and local weapons laws. Any federal weapons laws are strictly prohibited by the Constitution.

That’s not accurate Rigby5. A state cannot create firearm laws any more than the federal government can. It is a constitutional right and states cannot impede on rights.

But I love where your head is at regarding the 10th Amendment. You’re the type of constitutional abiding liberal that I could absolutely work with. Wish everyone on the left was like you.

That is a technicality based on whether or not the SCOTUS has declared the Amendment right "incorporated".
And while I may agree with you, that is more questionable and less clear cut.
I would take firearms as a personal right more clearly from the 4th and 5th amendments.
Those amendments don't just deny the federal government, but states and municipalities as well.

 

[Rigby5]

You are a pure example of the ignorant dumb american....have you ever left your county?

And you are the epitome of the immature, idealist, subservient foreigner. Cecilie1200 provides link after link after link proving you are dead-wrong and your only idiotic response is to call her “ignorant”.

So let me get this straight - she’s “ignorant” for knowing the facts and sharing them with you? Every time the left loses an argument they get all pissed off and scream “you are ignorant”. So juvenile.

I'm no left or right. I'm a human who don't like to see other humans killed in a barbaric way here in the US. I want them to be as safe as I was overseas. Too much to ask for ?

You are left, that makes you non-human.

You are getting carried away. I am extreme left, and also extremely against any gun control because that would break the democratic republic. Equality under the laws means that police and the military can have these weapons because all individuals can.

You sound like a liberal not an extreme left.

I am far left, liberal, progressive, socialist, etc.
But the way to be safe is to have personal arms.
Relying on a government to protect you is like asking the Mafia for protection.
They may do it, but it will cost you dearly and is not real freedom.

 

[P@triot]

Damn it! If only Sweden had banned hand grenades, then obviously none of this ever would have happened.

In January, a man at a train station on the outskirts of Stockholm died after picking up a discarded grenade, which he mistook for a toy. In August 2016, an 8-year-old British boy was killed in a grenade attack on an apartment in the city of Gothenburg while visiting family members.

Grenade attacks are perhaps the most striking example of increasing crime in Sweden. The number of grenade attacks in Sweden has risen dramatically, jumping from eight in 2014 to a staggering 52 in 2016.

Of course, my comment above was satirical. Explosives are absolutely banned in Sweden (as is carrying any kind of firearm - though you may own them and hunt with them). So how is that whole “banned hand grenade” thing working out in Sweden, progressives?

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[Issa]

Guns should be banned from society not just schools.

The U.S. Constitution says otherwise. The U.S. Constitution trumps your uninformed opinion.

For now, but it will.