The Right To Destroy Jewish History




Sherri Hawn
From University of California

Fact: all Israelis, including Jews, were forcibly relocated OUT of Gaza by Israel in 2005. It was To meet the Oslo Accords requirement the Israelis return Gaza to the Palestinians in order to achieve peace.

That worked well, didn’t it?
 
There was no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian people

Arafat invented them.

You are just ignorant. Arafat didn't show up on the scene until the 1960s. Some Palestinians went to my Church in the 1950s and one of our houseboys was Palestinian.

I don’t care.

I know.. Theft and murder is acceptable to you as long as the European refugees get more land.
And the middle eastern refugees that comprise most of Israel's current population who were stripped of their belongings and told to "go back to where you came from" by the Arabs?

In true IslamoNazi form, apparently think there aren't enough Arab / Muslim countries and they don't have enough land they invaded and cinquered compared to the less than 1% of land that Israel sits on, which happens to be the religious, cultural and ancestral homeland of the Jews to begin with.

Of course.. There have always been more Arabs..

What sort of immigrants do you want to take over YOUR ancestral home at the point of a gun?
So let's give the one land that is Jewish and make it Arab / Muslim failed terrorist state number 40 just because you hate the Jews and infidels as much as they do. Ain't gonna happen.

People of the Book are not infidels. People who worship the God of Abraham are not infidels. Your problem is ignorance and a desire to justify erasing the Palestinians.
Islam considers all non Muslims to be infidels. That is a fact.

No one is trying to erase the Palestinians. All that we are saying is that these Arabs, who have only called themselves Palestinians since 1963-64, would never have called themselves this identity if it had not been for the Mandate for Palestine to re create the Jewish Nation on the Jewish Homeland.

The Palestinian Museum in Ramallah, which you did not say anything about, clearly only has Palestinian History going back to 1920, denoting that they are a new identity, nationality, a people who would have continued to be called Arab, or the clan each came from, to this day.

The Balfour Declaration happened. The Mandate for Palestine happened. The defeat of the Arab armies in 1948, 1967 and 1973 happened.


Do note, again, that today's Palestinians and their Palestinian Museum cannot connect at all......today's Arabs to the Arabs from 10,000 years ago, or from the time of Abraham, or even the time of the Romans.

No.. islam doesn't consider Jews, Christians infidels. They are people of the book.

They were called Palestinians in 1950.. The refugee camps in Lebanon were Palestinian. I know. I visted them as a little girl.

Both articles contradict your belief:



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They were called Palestinians only after the Mandate for Palestine.
ALL inhabitants in the Mandate for Palestine from 1920 on, were called Palestinians. Jews, Arabs, Bedouin, Druze, Greeks, etc

See the Ottoman Census of 1870.. or you can read the Palestinian documents at the Avalon Project, Yale. Its just the documents not commentary. Jews were a tiny minority compared to Muslims and Christians.

Or, you can go back further and read Ibn Battuta and Rabbi Benjamin of Tudela.

By the time of Christ most Jews lived outside of Palestine. There were large Jewish communities in Baghdad, Damascus, Allepo, Alexandria, Rome, Elephantine Island and all around the Med Sea. Palestine was pretty harsh, stony, arid and hardscrabble.
 
Mitch Cohen
Freelance Translator German->English, English Edit (1987-present)

If the people in Gaza were Jews, they wouldn’t vote into office Hamas, whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel and cites the Koran’s call for the destruction of all Jews.
If the people in Gaza were Jews, they wouldn’t be wasting their money on terror tunnels and rockets to fire on other Jews. They would be building schools and infrastructure and trading with the world.
 
There was no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian people

Arafat invented them.

You are just ignorant. Arafat didn't show up on the scene until the 1960s. Some Palestinians went to my Church in the 1950s and one of our houseboys was Palestinian.

I don’t care.

I know.. Theft and murder is acceptable to you as long as the European refugees get more land.
And the middle eastern refugees that comprise most of Israel's current population who were stripped of their belongings and told to "go back to where you came from" by the Arabs?

In true IslamoNazi form, apparently think there aren't enough Arab / Muslim countries and they don't have enough land they invaded and cinquered compared to the less than 1% of land that Israel sits on, which happens to be the religious, cultural and ancestral homeland of the Jews to begin with.

Of course.. There have always been more Arabs..

What sort of immigrants do you want to take over YOUR ancestral home at the point of a gun?
So let's give the one land that is Jewish and make it Arab / Muslim failed terrorist state number 40 just because you hate the Jews and infidels as much as they do. Ain't gonna happen.

People of the Book are not infidels. People who worship the God of Abraham are not infidels. Your problem is ignorance and a desire to justify erasing the Palestinians.
Islam considers all non Muslims to be infidels. That is a fact.

No one is trying to erase the Palestinians. All that we are saying is that these Arabs, who have only called themselves Palestinians since 1963-64, would never have called themselves this identity if it had not been for the Mandate for Palestine to re create the Jewish Nation on the Jewish Homeland.

The Palestinian Museum in Ramallah, which you did not say anything about, clearly only has Palestinian History going back to 1920, denoting that they are a new identity, nationality, a people who would have continued to be called Arab, or the clan each came from, to this day.

The Balfour Declaration happened. The Mandate for Palestine happened. The defeat of the Arab armies in 1948, 1967 and 1973 happened.


Do note, again, that today's Palestinians and their Palestinian Museum cannot connect at all......today's Arabs to the Arabs from 10,000 years ago, or from the time of Abraham, or even the time of the Romans.

No.. islam doesn't consider Jews, Christians infidels. They are people of the book.

They were called Palestinians in 1950.. The refugee camps in Lebanon were Palestinian. I know. I visted them as a little girl.

Both articles contradict your belief:



--------------------
They were called Palestinians only after the Mandate for Palestine.
ALL inhabitants in the Mandate for Palestine from 1920 on, were called Palestinians. Jews, Arabs, Bedouin, Druze, Greeks, etc

See the Ottoman Census of 1870.. or you can read the Palestinian documents at the Avalon Project, Yale. Its just the documents not commentary. Jews were a tiny minority compared to Muslims and Christians.

Or, you can go back further and read Ibn Battuta and Rabbi Benjamin of Tudela.

By the time of Christ most Jews lived outside of Palestine. There were large Jewish communities in Baghdad, Damascus, Allepo, Alexandria, Rome, Elephantine Island and all around the Med Sea. Palestine was pretty harsh, stony, arid and hardscrabble.
You are in the wrong thread, Surada. Start your own and we will meet you there.
 



Sherri Hawn
From University of California

Fact: all Israelis, including Jews, were forcibly relocated OUT of Gaza by Israel in 2005. It was To meet the Oslo Accords requirement the Israelis return Gaza to the Palestinians in order to achieve peace.

That worked well, didn’t it?

The Israeli parents insisted. There were 20,000 young Israeli soldiers protecting 8,000 Jewish settlers to Gaza.. and it cost the US a damned boatload of money to pay them to leave.
 
Mitch Cohen
Freelance Translator German->English, English Edit (1987-present)

If the people in Gaza were Jews, they wouldn’t vote into office Hamas, whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel and cites the Koran’s call for the destruction of all Jews.
If the people in Gaza were Jews, they wouldn’t be wasting their money on terror tunnels and rockets to fire on other Jews. They would be building schools and infrastructure and trading with the world.

The Israelis helped found HAMAS as a foil against the PLO.. They have admitted it repeatedly.
 
Mitch Cohen
Freelance Translator German->English, English Edit (1987-present)

If the people in Gaza were Jews, they wouldn’t vote into office Hamas, whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel and cites the Koran’s call for the destruction of all Jews.
If the people in Gaza were Jews, they wouldn’t be wasting their money on terror tunnels and rockets to fire on other Jews. They would be building schools and infrastructure and trading with the world.

The Israelis helped found HAMAS as a foil against the PLO.. They have admitted it repeatedly.
Stop !!!! Start your own thread on the subject.
 
Mitch Cohen
Freelance Translator German->English, English Edit (1987-present)

If the people in Gaza were Jews, they wouldn’t vote into office Hamas, whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel and cites the Koran’s call for the destruction of all Jews.
If the people in Gaza were Jews, they wouldn’t be wasting their money on terror tunnels and rockets to fire on other Jews. They would be building schools and infrastructure and trading with the world.

The Israelis helped found HAMAS as a foil against the PLO.. They have admitted it repeatedly.
Stop !!!! Start your own thread on the subject.

Stop yourself.. Its time you found your integrity and humanity.

How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas - WSJ
Jan 24, 2009 · Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas.
 
There was no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian people

Arafat invented them.

You are just ignorant. Arafat didn't show up on the scene until the 1960s. Some Palestinians went to my Church in the 1950s and one of our houseboys was Palestinian.

I don’t care.

I know.. Theft and murder is acceptable to you as long as the European refugees get more land.
And the middle eastern refugees that comprise most of Israel's current population who were stripped of their belongings and told to "go back to where you came from" by the Arabs?

In true IslamoNazi form, apparently think there aren't enough Arab / Muslim countries and they don't have enough land they invaded and cinquered compared to the less than 1% of land that Israel sits on, which happens to be the religious, cultural and ancestral homeland of the Jews to begin with.

Of course.. There have always been more Arabs..

What sort of immigrants do you want to take over YOUR ancestral home at the point of a gun?
So let's give the one land that is Jewish and make it Arab / Muslim failed terrorist state number 40 just because you hate the Jews and infidels as much as they do. Ain't gonna happen.

People of the Book are not infidels. People who worship the God of Abraham are not infidels. Your problem is ignorance and a desire to justify erasing the Palestinians.
Got news for you Surada. In 1947 there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians residing in Israel. And now there are only just under 6 million of them left. Yep, Israel is "erasing" the Palestinians. Get it yet?

 
There was no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian people

Arafat invented them.

You are just ignorant. Arafat didn't show up on the scene until the 1960s. Some Palestinians went to my Church in the 1950s and one of our houseboys was Palestinian.

I don’t care.

I know.. Theft and murder is acceptable to you as long as the European refugees get more land.
And the middle eastern refugees that comprise most of Israel's current population who were stripped of their belongings and told to "go back to where you came from" by the Arabs?

In true IslamoNazi form, apparently think there aren't enough Arab / Muslim countries and they don't have enough land they invaded and cinquered compared to the less than 1% of land that Israel sits on, which happens to be the religious, cultural and ancestral homeland of the Jews to begin with.

Of course.. There have always been more Arabs..

What sort of immigrants do you want to take over YOUR ancestral home at the point of a gun?
So let's give the one land that is Jewish and make it Arab / Muslim failed terrorist state number 40 just because you hate the Jews and infidels as much as they do. Ain't gonna happen.

People of the Book are not infidels. People who worship the God of Abraham are not infidels. Your problem is ignorance and a desire to justify erasing the Palestinians.
Got news for you Surada. In 1947 there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians residing in Israel. And now there are only just under 6 million of them left. Yep, Israel is "erasing" the Palestinians. Get it yet?


They have a lot of children. Even so the Israelis have expelled nearly a million of them since 1947... and their 1967 land grab. They completely changed the demographics of Lebanon overnight and they still control Shaaba Farms and the GolanHeights.

Shameful.
 
There was no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian people

Arafat invented them.

You are just ignorant. Arafat didn't show up on the scene until the 1960s. Some Palestinians went to my Church in the 1950s and one of our houseboys was Palestinian.

I don’t care.

I know.. Theft and murder is acceptable to you as long as the European refugees get more land.
And the middle eastern refugees that comprise most of Israel's current population who were stripped of their belongings and told to "go back to where you came from" by the Arabs?

In true IslamoNazi form, apparently think there aren't enough Arab / Muslim countries and they don't have enough land they invaded and cinquered compared to the less than 1% of land that Israel sits on, which happens to be the religious, cultural and ancestral homeland of the Jews to begin with.

Of course.. There have always been more Arabs..

What sort of immigrants do you want to take over YOUR ancestral home at the point of a gun?
So let's give the one land that is Jewish and make it Arab / Muslim failed terrorist state number 40 just because you hate the Jews and infidels as much as they do. Ain't gonna happen.

People of the Book are not infidels. People who worship the God of Abraham are not infidels. Your problem is ignorance and a desire to justify erasing the Palestinians.
Got news for you Surada. In 1947 there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians residing in Israel. And now there are only just under 6 million of them left. Yep, Israel is "erasing" the Palestinians. Get it yet?

Please discuss this on my newer thread. Let us not destroy this one by derailing from its subject. Thanks
 
There was no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian people

Arafat invented them.

You are just ignorant. Arafat didn't show up on the scene until the 1960s. Some Palestinians went to my Church in the 1950s and one of our houseboys was Palestinian.

I don’t care.

I know.. Theft and murder is acceptable to you as long as the European refugees get more land.
And the middle eastern refugees that comprise most of Israel's current population who were stripped of their belongings and told to "go back to where you came from" by the Arabs?

In true IslamoNazi form, apparently think there aren't enough Arab / Muslim countries and they don't have enough land they invaded and cinquered compared to the less than 1% of land that Israel sits on, which happens to be the religious, cultural and ancestral homeland of the Jews to begin with.

Of course.. There have always been more Arabs..

What sort of immigrants do you want to take over YOUR ancestral home at the point of a gun?
So let's give the one land that is Jewish and make it Arab / Muslim failed terrorist state number 40 just because you hate the Jews and infidels as much as they do. Ain't gonna happen.

People of the Book are not infidels. People who worship the God of Abraham are not infidels. Your problem is ignorance and a desire to justify erasing the Palestinians.
Got news for you Surada. In 1947 there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians residing in Israel. And now there are only just under 6 million of them left. Yep, Israel is "erasing" the Palestinians. Get it yet?


They have a lot of children. Even so the Israelis have expelled nearly a million of them since 1947... and their 1967 land grab. They completely changed the demographics of Lebanon overnight and they still control Shaaba Farms and the GolanHeights.

Shameful.
Wrong thread. For the last time, go to the correct threads.
 
When academics call Israel a "settler colonial" state, it is meant to isolate the Jewish state from the legitimate family of nations. Yet historically, colonies have related to a mother country. The Puritans saw themselves as English, Afrikaaners as Dutch, Muslim conquerors as Arabs. They spoke the mother country's language and attempted to transfer its culture to their new land.

The early, pre-state Zionists, however, sought to escape Europe, not to replicate it. They rejected Yiddish and adopted an old Middle East language - Hebrew - which they updated for modern purposes, while changing their German or Russian-sounding names.

Central to the Zionist enterprise was the conviction that they were returning home. No other transplanted society made such a claim. Jews had lived in the area continuously for thousands of years. The Hebrew language is Semitic, not Indo-European. Ancient Jewish artifacts could be found everywhere.

It is therefore more accurate to see Zionism as a form of nationalism - and Zionists as fulfilling a people's aspiration for self-determination in what they regard as their own land.

(full article online)

 
When academics call Israel a "settler colonial" state, it is meant to isolate the Jewish state from the legitimate family of nations. Yet historically, colonies have related to a mother country. The Puritans saw themselves as English, Afrikaaners as Dutch, Muslim conquerors as Arabs. They spoke the mother country's language and attempted to transfer its culture to their new land.

The early, pre-state Zionists, however, sought to escape Europe, not to replicate it. They rejected Yiddish and adopted an old Middle East language - Hebrew - which they updated for modern purposes, while changing their German or Russian-sounding names.

Central to the Zionist enterprise was the conviction that they were returning home. No other transplanted society made such a claim. Jews had lived in the area continuously for thousands of years. The Hebrew language is Semitic, not Indo-European. Ancient Jewish artifacts could be found everywhere.

It is therefore more accurate to see Zionism as a form of nationalism - and Zionists as fulfilling a people's aspiration for self-determination in what they regard as their own land.

(full article online)


Of course its nationalism. Colonial settlers? Well, they don't allow Palestinians to return to their ancestral homes.
 
When academics call Israel a "settler colonial" state, it is meant to isolate the Jewish state from the legitimate family of nations. Yet historically, colonies have related to a mother country. The Puritans saw themselves as English, Afrikaaners as Dutch, Muslim conquerors as Arabs. They spoke the mother country's language and attempted to transfer its culture to their new land.

The early, pre-state Zionists, however, sought to escape Europe, not to replicate it. They rejected Yiddish and adopted an old Middle East language - Hebrew - which they updated for modern purposes, while changing their German or Russian-sounding names.

Central to the Zionist enterprise was the conviction that they were returning home. No other transplanted society made such a claim. Jews had lived in the area continuously for thousands of years. The Hebrew language is Semitic, not Indo-European. Ancient Jewish artifacts could be found everywhere.

It is therefore more accurate to see Zionism as a form of nationalism - and Zionists as fulfilling a people's aspiration for self-determination in what they regard as their own land.

(full article online)


Of course its nationalism. Colonial settlers? Well, they don't allow Palestinians to return to their ancestral homes.
The Arab Muslims have 80% of the Mandate for Palestine, all of which is the Jewish Homeland.

What part of the ancient Jewish Homeland is the Palestinian ancient homeland, or homes?
 
When academics call Israel a "settler colonial" state, it is meant to isolate the Jewish state from the legitimate family of nations. Yet historically, colonies have related to a mother country. The Puritans saw themselves as English, Afrikaaners as Dutch, Muslim conquerors as Arabs. They spoke the mother country's language and attempted to transfer its culture to their new land.

The early, pre-state Zionists, however, sought to escape Europe, not to replicate it. They rejected Yiddish and adopted an old Middle East language - Hebrew - which they updated for modern purposes, while changing their German or Russian-sounding names.

Central to the Zionist enterprise was the conviction that they were returning home. No other transplanted society made such a claim. Jews had lived in the area continuously for thousands of years. The Hebrew language is Semitic, not Indo-European. Ancient Jewish artifacts could be found everywhere.

It is therefore more accurate to see Zionism as a form of nationalism - and Zionists as fulfilling a people's aspiration for self-determination in what they regard as their own land.

(full article online)


Of course its nationalism. Colonial settlers? Well, they don't allow Palestinians to return to their ancestral homes.
The Arab Muslims have 80% of the Mandate for Palestine, all of which is the Jewish Homeland.

What part of the ancient Jewish Homeland is the Palestinian ancient homeland, or homes?

They Arab Muslims and Christians were the majority in Jerusalem and Palestine for 2000 years. What do you want to do with them?
 
When academics call Israel a "settler colonial" state, it is meant to isolate the Jewish state from the legitimate family of nations. Yet historically, colonies have related to a mother country. The Puritans saw themselves as English, Afrikaaners as Dutch, Muslim conquerors as Arabs. They spoke the mother country's language and attempted to transfer its culture to their new land.

The early, pre-state Zionists, however, sought to escape Europe, not to replicate it. They rejected Yiddish and adopted an old Middle East language - Hebrew - which they updated for modern purposes, while changing their German or Russian-sounding names.

Central to the Zionist enterprise was the conviction that they were returning home. No other transplanted society made such a claim. Jews had lived in the area continuously for thousands of years. The Hebrew language is Semitic, not Indo-European. Ancient Jewish artifacts could be found everywhere.

It is therefore more accurate to see Zionism as a form of nationalism - and Zionists as fulfilling a people's aspiration for self-determination in what they regard as their own land.

(full article online)


Of course its nationalism. Colonial settlers? Well, they don't allow Palestinians to return to their ancestral homes.
The Arab Muslims have 80% of the Mandate for Palestine, all of which is the Jewish Homeland.

What part of the ancient Jewish Homeland is the Palestinian ancient homeland, or homes?

They Arab Muslims and Christians were the majority in Jerusalem and Palestine for 2000 years. What do you want to do with them?
Live with them. In Peace.
Being the majority by conquest does not give those Christian and Muslim invaders sovereignty over the Jewish ancient homeland, or any other indigenous land in the world.

I did not see a response to my question.

Let us agree that some Canaanite Tribes had Arab origin.

Did they still identify themselves as their tribal name when the Romans conquered the land, or had they melted into the rest of the population?

Did they convert to Christianity or Islam?

When the Muslims invaded, did they meet with this ancient Arab tribes which had been there for centuries?

Are they referred to by the Romans, the Byzantine, the Muslims?

Are there any descendants of those tribes which continue to identify themselves by those tribal names?

If so, those descendants, and only those descendants , would have a right to their ancient ancestral land in Canaan, be it in Gaza, Israel, Judea, Samaria or TransJordan.


Instead, we have the Palestinian leaders saying that :

1) Arabs had a mass migration to Canaan 10,000 years ago

2) The Arabs were in Canaan since Abrham's time, not before. (3800 years ag

3) their ancestors were in Ancient Canaan, and belonged to those few tribes made of Arabs.

4) They are descendants from the Philistines where the word Palestine comes from

5) The Hebrews were Arabs

6) There is no Jewish History on the Temple Mount, only Christian and Muslim

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So, I ask......did the invading Kurdish Muslim meet with the ancient tribes that already lived on the land?

Did the 2nd Muslim wave of Arabs meet with the descendants of those ancient Arabs when they reached Jerusalem?

Can any Arab tribes today retrace their history to those tribes, which in those days fought with Israel, King David and dealt with the Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks and Romans, and therefore were part of the history of the area before the Muslim invasion?


What is the archeological and historical proof which is lacking in the Palestinian Museum?
 
There was no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian people

Arafat invented them.

You are just ignorant. Arafat didn't show up on the scene until the 1960s. Some Palestinians went to my Church in the 1950s and one of our houseboys was Palestinian.

I don’t care.

I know.. Theft and murder is acceptable to you as long as the European refugees get more land.
And the middle eastern refugees that comprise most of Israel's current population who were stripped of their belongings and told to "go back to where you came from" by the Arabs?

In true IslamoNazi form, apparently think there aren't enough Arab / Muslim countries and they don't have enough land they invaded and cinquered compared to the less than 1% of land that Israel sits on, which happens to be the religious, cultural and ancestral homeland of the Jews to begin with.

Of course.. There have always been more Arabs..

What sort of immigrants do you want to take over YOUR ancestral home at the point of a gun?
So let's give the one land that is Jewish and make it Arab / Muslim failed terrorist state number 40 just because you hate the Jews and infidels as much as they do. Ain't gonna happen.

People of the Book are not infidels. People who worship the God of Abraham are not infidels. Your problem is ignorance and a desire to justify erasing the Palestinians.
There is nothing to erase, Palestine never was a country and neither were the Palestinians ever a people. You're just upset that non Muslims are refusing to be second class citizens and Dhimmi's and are fighting to keep their ancestral, religious and cultural homeland.
 
There was no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian people

Arafat invented them.

You are just ignorant. Arafat didn't show up on the scene until the 1960s. Some Palestinians went to my Church in the 1950s and one of our houseboys was Palestinian.

I don’t care.

I know.. Theft and murder is acceptable to you as long as the European refugees get more land.
And the middle eastern refugees that comprise most of Israel's current population who were stripped of their belongings and told to "go back to where you came from" by the Arabs?

In true IslamoNazi form, apparently think there aren't enough Arab / Muslim countries and they don't have enough land they invaded and cinquered compared to the less than 1% of land that Israel sits on, which happens to be the religious, cultural and ancestral homeland of the Jews to begin with.

Of course.. There have always been more Arabs..

What sort of immigrants do you want to take over YOUR ancestral home at the point of a gun?
So let's give the one land that is Jewish and make it Arab / Muslim failed terrorist state number 40 just because you hate the Jews and infidels as much as they do. Ain't gonna happen.

People of the Book are not infidels. People who worship the God of Abraham are not infidels. Your problem is ignorance and a desire to justify erasing the Palestinians.
Islam considers all non Muslims to be infidels. That is a fact.

No one is trying to erase the Palestinians. All that we are saying is that these Arabs, who have only called themselves Palestinians since 1963-64, would never have called themselves this identity if it had not been for the Mandate for Palestine to re create the Jewish Nation on the Jewish Homeland.

The Palestinian Museum in Ramallah, which you did not say anything about, clearly only has Palestinian History going back to 1920, denoting that they are a new identity, nationality, a people who would have continued to be called Arab, or the clan each came from, to this day.

The Balfour Declaration happened. The Mandate for Palestine happened. The defeat of the Arab armies in 1948, 1967 and 1973 happened.


Do note, again, that today's Palestinians and their Palestinian Museum cannot connect at all......today's Arabs to the Arabs from 10,000 years ago, or from the time of Abraham, or even the time of the Romans.

No.. islam doesn't consider Jews, Christians infidels. They are people of the book.

They were called Palestinians in 1950.. The refugee camps in Lebanon were Palestinian. I know. I visted them as a little girl.

Both articles contradict your belief:



--------------------
They were called Palestinians only after the Mandate for Palestine.
ALL inhabitants in the Mandate for Palestine from 1920 on, were called Palestinians. Jews, Arabs, Bedouin, Druze, Greeks, etc

See the Ottoman Census of 1870.. or you can read the Palestinian documents at the Avalon Project, Yale. Its just the documents not commentary. Jews were a tiny minority compared to Muslims and Christians.

Or, you can go back further and read Ibn Battuta and Rabbi Benjamin of Tudela.

By the time of Christ most Jews lived outside of Palestine. There were large Jewish communities in Baghdad, Damascus, Allepo, Alexandria, Rome, Elephantine Island and all around the Med Sea. Palestine was pretty harsh, stony, arid and hardscrabble.
Ottoman's had the Jews as a majority in Jerusalem during the same time period. Duh
 
When academics call Israel a "settler colonial" state, it is meant to isolate the Jewish state from the legitimate family of nations. Yet historically, colonies have related to a mother country. The Puritans saw themselves as English, Afrikaaners as Dutch, Muslim conquerors as Arabs. They spoke the mother country's language and attempted to transfer its culture to their new land.

The early, pre-state Zionists, however, sought to escape Europe, not to replicate it. They rejected Yiddish and adopted an old Middle East language - Hebrew - which they updated for modern purposes, while changing their German or Russian-sounding names.

Central to the Zionist enterprise was the conviction that they were returning home. No other transplanted society made such a claim. Jews had lived in the area continuously for thousands of years. The Hebrew language is Semitic, not Indo-European. Ancient Jewish artifacts could be found everywhere.

It is therefore more accurate to see Zionism as a form of nationalism - and Zionists as fulfilling a people's aspiration for self-determination in what they regard as their own land.

(full article online)


Of course its nationalism. Colonial settlers? Well, they don't allow Palestinians to return to their ancestral homes.
Palestinians can't go back to their ancestral homelands of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia etc. because even the Arabs scoffed at the existence of a Palestinian when the idea came up. In fact calling an Arab Muslim was an insult pre 1948 before Arafat hijacked the name, because it referred to the Jews of the region. Your whole cause is a hoax.
 

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