The Supreme Court nomination mess

[eagle1462010]

 

[Slade3200]

Ok, but that’s not what’s happening here. She described the situation and named 4 people. She accused Kav and his friend of being in the room and said two other teens were at the party. She has spoken about the incident in the past and taken a polygraph. So there is standing and substance behind her story. There are also a few avenues to go down for investigators to to question and explore to see what can be uncovered.

‘Described the situation’ is nothing more than making an unsubstantiated allegation. She also keeps changing her story - 4 people/2 people.
A lie detector test has no credence whatsoever.

She did not speak about the incident for decades after it allegedly happened. One of the 2-4 other people allegedly present has said he has no recollection whatsoever of the ‘event’.

So, what we have here is a he said/she said situation, an expired SOL, and an almost 40 year gap between when the alleged thing happened and when she decided to make an issue of it.

Tell me exaclty how you’d investigate this further?

(Oh, and she can’t be sure when it happened, nor exaclty where it happened)
Laughable.

How would I investigate? I’d interview Ford, Kavanaugh and Judge... I’dask for the names of the other two teens who were at the party and interview them. Id try and get as many details from talking to those 5 individuals and see where it goes. It might go nowhere or it might go somewhere. Never know till you try.

She’s already named the two teens. And She’s already said the claim of 4 teens is wrong - an error. She doesn’t know exaclty when or where it (allegedly) happened - nearly 40 years ago FFS!

There were 5 teens at the party. Ford, Kav, Judge and two others. There were only 3 in the room during the incident, Ford, Kav and Judge. The therapy notes incorrectly said the other two teens were in the room during the incident and she clarified. Get it?

Yes I get it, but you don’t seem to.
She has stated that she told NOBODY about what happened, so the only people who can offer any insight are the 2 who were allegedly in the room with her. They’ve both ALREADY denied any knowledge of what she alleges happened. Get it yet?

Yeah I get the he said he said she said part of it. But there were two other teens at the party. Perhaps they can verify whether the party took place. Maybe they remember the date and location. And these statements by Ford, Judge, and Kavanaugh, have any of them been while underoath or been questioned by investigators? Don’t you think that might be useful?

Perhaps if 4 people have no recollection of the party then Kavanaughs story would be more accepted. Perhaps if 3 people remember and the two accused deny then Ford story holds more weight. There is plenty out there to dig up that Can swing this either way, you seem to want to ignore it all

 

[Pop23]

Maybe when people making such accusations are totally aware of the fact that they have NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to substantiate their claim, and that it will be IMPOSSIBLE for the accused to prove a negative 38yrs later, they should just STFU? Otherwise it looks a lot like trying to DESTROY someone’s life, and that of their families too. Just a thought.

Ok, but that’s not what’s happening here. She described the situation and named 4 people. She accused Kav and his friend of being in the room and said two other teens were at the party. She has spoken about the incident in the past and taken a polygraph. So there is standing and substance behind her story. There are also a few avenues to go down for investigators to to question and explore to see what can be uncovered.

‘Described the situation’ is nothing more than making an unsubstantiated allegation. She also keeps changing her story - 4 people/2 people.
A lie detector test has no credence whatsoever.

She did not speak about the incident for decades after it allegedly happened. One of the 2-4 other people allegedly present has said he has no recollection whatsoever of the ‘event’.

So, what we have here is a he said/she said situation, an expired SOL, and an almost 40 year gap between when the alleged thing happened and when she decided to make an issue of it.

Tell me exaclty how you’d investigate this further?

(Oh, and she can’t be sure when it happened, nor exaclty where it happened)
Laughable.

How would I investigate? I’d interview Ford, Kavanaugh and Judge... I’dask for the names of the other two teens who were at the party and interview them. Id try and get as many details from talking to those 5 individuals and see where it goes. It might go nowhere or it might go somewhere. Never know till you try.

She’s already named the two teens. And She’s already said the claim of 4 teens is wrong - an error. She doesn’t know exaclty when or where it (allegedly) happened - nearly 40 years ago FFS!

There were 5 teens at the party. Ford, Kav, Judge and two others. There were only 3 in the room during the incident, Ford, Kav and Judge. The therapy notes incorrectly said the other two teens were in the room during the incident and she clarified. Get it?

Then the therapy notes are of no use as even the “victims” dispute them.

So, what else you got?

 

[Slade3200]

You’re not making a convincing argument. The two witnesses you’re talking about are the accused and they haven’t been questioned under oath. Also, if she was making up this story why would she name two boys who are friends. Why wouldn’t she just name Kavanaugh? Why would she even take a polygraph? And why would she be asking the FBI to investigate? Give an honest and direct answer please.

I already have . Her star witness, not the accused said it didn’t happen. Do you understand the false readings of polygraphs. It sounds great but means nothing. Why wouldn’t she name Kavanaugh? She isn’t asking the FBI to investigate. The lawyer said any investigation would be fine. They know it won’t be conclusive and won’t be damming. That way they can carry on their narrative.

You are dodging around answering my questions. Let’s start simple. If she was fabricating a story why would she name two boys and not just the one she is targeting?

Why even take a polygraph? Why even ask for an FBI investigation like her lawyer has requested.

None of those add up to actions that a false accuser would take

Wow! Anyone would think you’ve never ever heard that sometimes people make false accusations against others!

See when I ask specific questions and you avoid answering them to make generalized statements like that it feels like you are giving up on the debate.

Nope. You simply accuse people who aren’t into speculating about her motives as ‘dodging’, and that’s probably because you are making a bit of an ass of yourself by referring to her completely vague and unsubstantiated 40 year old accusations as ‘credible’ and having ‘substance’.
She can’t even say exaclty when and where it happened - hardly substantive!

Her statement is credible and with substance. That’s different from being convincingly true or Fact. I’ve said more needs to be uncovered for a credible conclusion to be drawn. And all we have to go off right now is analyzing motives and actions which you all seem to want to gloss right over so you can point out what she doesn’t remember.

 

[Pop23]

‘Described the situation’ is nothing more than making an unsubstantiated allegation. She also keeps changing her story - 4 people/2 people.
A lie detector test has no credence whatsoever.

She did not speak about the incident for decades after it allegedly happened. One of the 2-4 other people allegedly present has said he has no recollection whatsoever of the ‘event’.

So, what we have here is a he said/she said situation, an expired SOL, and an almost 40 year gap between when the alleged thing happened and when she decided to make an issue of it.

Tell me exaclty how you’d investigate this further?

(Oh, and she can’t be sure when it happened, nor exaclty where it happened)
Laughable.

How would I investigate? I’d interview Ford, Kavanaugh and Judge... I’dask for the names of the other two teens who were at the party and interview them. Id try and get as many details from talking to those 5 individuals and see where it goes. It might go nowhere or it might go somewhere. Never know till you try.

She’s already named the two teens. And She’s already said the claim of 4 teens is wrong - an error. She doesn’t know exaclty when or where it (allegedly) happened - nearly 40 years ago FFS!

There were 5 teens at the party. Ford, Kav, Judge and two others. There were only 3 in the room during the incident, Ford, Kav and Judge. The therapy notes incorrectly said the other two teens were in the room during the incident and she clarified. Get it?

Yes I get it, but you don’t seem to.
She has stated that she told NOBODY about what happened, so the only people who can offer any insight are the 2 who were allegedly in the room with her. They’ve both ALREADY denied any knowledge of what she alleges happened. Get it yet?

Yeah I get the he said he said she said part of it. But there were two other teens at the party. Perhaps they can verify whether the party took place. Maybe they remember the date and location. And these statements by Ford, Judge, and Kavanaugh, have any of them been while underoath or been questioned by investigators? Don’t you think that might be useful?

Perhaps if 4 people have no recollection of the party then Kavanaughs story would be more accepted. Perhaps if 3 people remember and the two accused deny then Ford story holds more weight. There is plenty out there to dig up that Can swing this either way, you seem to want to ignore it all

2 have been identified. Both say it never happened.

What else you got?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

When it was pointed out to Miranda on Twitter that Ford said she never told a soul about the incident until 2012, Miranda deleted the tweet

Then deleted her Twitter account and got the hell outa Dodge LOL. Freaking liar

Woman Who Claims She Knew About Ford’s Assault Deletes Twitter Account and Goes Into Hiding

 

[Pop23]

I already have . Her star witness, not the accused said it didn’t happen. Do you understand the false readings of polygraphs. It sounds great but means nothing. Why wouldn’t she name Kavanaugh? She isn’t asking the FBI to investigate. The lawyer said any investigation would be fine. They know it won’t be conclusive and won’t be damming. That way they can carry on their narrative.

You are dodging around answering my questions. Let’s start simple. If she was fabricating a story why would she name two boys and not just the one she is targeting?

Why even take a polygraph? Why even ask for an FBI investigation like her lawyer has requested.

None of those add up to actions that a false accuser would take

Wow! Anyone would think you’ve never ever heard that sometimes people make false accusations against others!

See when I ask specific questions and you avoid answering them to make generalized statements like that it feels like you are giving up on the debate.

Nope. You simply accuse people who aren’t into speculating about her motives as ‘dodging’, and that’s probably because you are making a bit of an ass of yourself by referring to her completely vague and unsubstantiated 40 year old accusations as ‘credible’ and having ‘substance’.
She can’t even say exaclty when and where it happened - hardly substantive!

Her statement is credible and with substance. That’s different from being convincingly true or Fact. I’ve said more needs to be uncovered for a credible conclusion to be drawn. And all we have to go off right now is analyzing motives and actions which you all seem to want to gloss right over so you can point out what she doesn’t remember.

It is the alleged victims duty to uncover more, and nobody else’s. What part of that do you not understand

 

[Slade3200]

I already have . Her star witness, not the accused said it didn’t happen. Do you understand the false readings of polygraphs. It sounds great but means nothing. Why wouldn’t she name Kavanaugh? She isn’t asking the FBI to investigate. The lawyer said any investigation would be fine. They know it won’t be conclusive and won’t be damming. That way they can carry on their narrative.

You are dodging around answering my questions. Let’s start simple. If she was fabricating a story why would she name two boys and not just the one she is targeting?

Why even take a polygraph? Why even ask for an FBI investigation like her lawyer has requested.

None of those add up to actions that a false accuser would take

I dodged nothing. After reading all there is about this. I have concluded that she is lying. You may have a different view, that is your right. I don’t have to explain any further why I feel this way. I have answered. You didn’t like the answeres. That fine. I don’t accept yours. That’s fine too.

You have every right to have a different opinion. For the record I’m not saying she is telling the truth. I need to hear more to make a solid conclusion. But when I ask why she would name two boys when fabricating a story, you didn’t answer. When I asked why should would take a polygraph, you say that polygraphs are not conclusive, that doesn’t answer my question about why she would take one. When I ask why she would call for the FBI to investigate, something that could expose her lie (if she was lying) you say she isn’t asking for that... but she is through her attorney!

So yeah, you are dodging my questions

I answered you didn’t like them.

When Slade doesn’t like the answers and can’t refute them, his go to response is you’re ‘dodging’.

I say somebody is dodging when they dodge. I pointed out exactly how he dodged for all three questions. He actually Did answer the last question but What he said didn’t happen. She did call for an FBI investigation, he said she didn’t

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Hey, nothing like she recalls hearing, BUT has no first hand info or even KNEW BALSY to speak to her....Desperation is an awesome thing to watch!

A former schoolmate of Brett Kavanaugh’s accuser wrote a Facebook post saying she recalls hearing about the alleged assault involving Kavanaugh, though she says she has no first-hand information to corroborate the accuser’s claims.

"Christine Blasey Ford was a year or so behind me," wrote the woman, Cristina Miranda King, who now works as a performing arts curator in Mexico City. "I did not know her personally but I remember her. This incident did happen."

She added, "Many of us heard a buzz about it indirectly with few specific details. However Christine's vivid recollection should be more than enough for us to truly, deeply know that the accusation is true."

The assertion that other people heard about and discussed an incident between Ford and Kavanaugh at the time it is alleged to have happened could loom as an important factor in any investigation of the claim.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...

Some salient thoughts....

She already pulled the post down.

Seem she said it was all the buzz at school when the supposed incident happened during the summertime.


Oh gosh, all of the sudden out of the clear blue - another “corroborating” story. I just knew that someone out there (a leftist bimbo) would suddenly “remember” what Christine Ford said years ago.


So predictable. And it was predicted. More will be coming.
Somebody is looking for a Soros payday

How much does he pay?


Disqualifying assertion: “However Christine’s vivid recollection should be more than enough for us to truly, deeply know that the accusation is true.”

Cristina King Miranda.....where is her PINK PUSSY HAT???

WYEHO?

 

[Slade3200]

Ok, but that’s not what’s happening here. She described the situation and named 4 people. She accused Kav and his friend of being in the room and said two other teens were at the party. She has spoken about the incident in the past and taken a polygraph. So there is standing and substance behind her story. There are also a few avenues to go down for investigators to to question and explore to see what can be uncovered.

‘Described the situation’ is nothing more than making an unsubstantiated allegation. She also keeps changing her story - 4 people/2 people.
A lie detector test has no credence whatsoever.

She did not speak about the incident for decades after it allegedly happened. One of the 2-4 other people allegedly present has said he has no recollection whatsoever of the ‘event’.

So, what we have here is a he said/she said situation, an expired SOL, and an almost 40 year gap between when the alleged thing happened and when she decided to make an issue of it.

Tell me exaclty how you’d investigate this further?

(Oh, and she can’t be sure when it happened, nor exaclty where it happened)
Laughable.

How would I investigate? I’d interview Ford, Kavanaugh and Judge... I’dask for the names of the other two teens who were at the party and interview them. Id try and get as many details from talking to those 5 individuals and see where it goes. It might go nowhere or it might go somewhere. Never know till you try.

She’s already named the two teens. And She’s already said the claim of 4 teens is wrong - an error. She doesn’t know exaclty when or where it (allegedly) happened - nearly 40 years ago FFS!

There were 5 teens at the party. Ford, Kav, Judge and two others. There were only 3 in the room during the incident, Ford, Kav and Judge. The therapy notes incorrectly said the other two teens were in the room during the incident and she clarified. Get it?

But can't remember where this supposedly took place, the date, and even not sure of the year....let alone ANY EVIDENCE that this isn't made up in her mixed up mind or perhaps a dream. As she wanted Kav!!...We will NEVER know!...Oh, I forgot the most likely thing...a LIE!

Of course she knows the year. She was 15 and it was in the summer, July. I think that makes it 1982z What kind of news source are you using?

 

[Geaux4it]

She looks like the late Tom Petty

-Geaux

 

[Slade3200]

You’re not making a convincing argument. The two witnesses you’re talking about are the accused and they haven’t been questioned under oath. Also, if she was making up this story why would she name two boys who are friends. Why wouldn’t she just name Kavanaugh? Why would she even take a polygraph? And why would she be asking the FBI to investigate? Give an honest and direct answer please.

I already have . Her star witness, not the accused said it didn’t happen. Do you understand the false readings of polygraphs. It sounds great but means nothing. Why wouldn’t she name Kavanaugh? She isn’t asking the FBI to investigate. The lawyer said any investigation would be fine. They know it won’t be conclusive and won’t be damming. That way they can carry on their narrative.

You are dodging around answering my questions. Let’s start simple. If she was fabricating a story why would she name two boys and not just the one she is targeting?

Why even take a polygraph? Why even ask for an FBI investigation like her lawyer has requested.

None of those add up to actions that a false accuser would take

I dodged nothing. After reading all there is about this. I have concluded that she is lying. You may have a different view, that is your right. I don’t have to explain any further why I feel this way. I have answered. You didn’t like the answeres. That fine. I don’t accept yours. That’s fine too.

You have every right to have a different opinion. For the record I’m not saying she is telling the truth. I need to hear more to make a solid conclusion. But when I ask why she would name two boys when fabricating a story, you didn’t answer. When I asked why should would take a polygraph, you say that polygraphs are not conclusive, that doesn’t answer my question about why she would take one. When I ask why she would call for the FBI to investigate, something that could expose her lie (if she was lying) you say she isn’t asking for that... but she is through her attorney!

So yeah, you are dodging my questions

She originally told a therapist that there were four boys in the room others were in the house and more were outside. Since the letter came out she bows claims that the notes taken by the therapist are wrong.

She claims she does not know who was responsible for the party.
She claims she does not know how she got there.
She claims she does not know where the party was.
She claims she does not know on what date it happened.
She claims she does not know how she got home.
She claims she told no one until 2012 when she told a therapist.

Both of the boys say they have never seen anything or done anything even similar.
She has a reason to hate Kavanaugh in that his mother was involved as the judge in her parents foreclosure. Considering the foreclosure one can assume that the Kavanaugh's had more money.
She hates Trump and wrote a letter against his policies.

Suddenly another woman who was not in her circle of friends says that she heard about it but does not know any particulars. How did she hear about it if the accussor did not tell anyone?

The FBI did six background checks on the guy and found nothing. Now suddenly all the people that claimed they should be believed are saying that they missed things.

There are so many holes in her story that you could fly a 747 through it and not hurt the paint.

You got some serious fluff in there. First off the foreclosure story is unsubstantiated right wing propaganda being used to support a motive of her lying. Show me one credible network reporting that story. I don’t think you can. I can show you Fox refuting it if you don’t believe me.

Also all the holes you pointed out aren’t evidence that she is lying. She either didn’t remember those details or she didn’t want to disclose them to a reporter. Perhaps if she was interviewed under oath by an FBI agent there would be more details.

 

[Slade3200]

Ok, but that’s not what’s happening here. She described the situation and named 4 people. She accused Kav and his friend of being in the room and said two other teens were at the party. She has spoken about the incident in the past and taken a polygraph. So there is standing and substance behind her story. There are also a few avenues to go down for investigators to to question and explore to see what can be uncovered.

‘Described the situation’ is nothing more than making an unsubstantiated allegation. She also keeps changing her story - 4 people/2 people.
A lie detector test has no credence whatsoever.

She did not speak about the incident for decades after it allegedly happened. One of the 2-4 other people allegedly present has said he has no recollection whatsoever of the ‘event’.

So, what we have here is a he said/she said situation, an expired SOL, and an almost 40 year gap between when the alleged thing happened and when she decided to make an issue of it.

Tell me exaclty how you’d investigate this further?

(Oh, and she can’t be sure when it happened, nor exaclty where it happened)
Laughable.

How would I investigate? I’d interview Ford, Kavanaugh and Judge... I’dask for the names of the other two teens who were at the party and interview them. Id try and get as many details from talking to those 5 individuals and see where it goes. It might go nowhere or it might go somewhere. Never know till you try.

She’s already named the two teens. And She’s already said the claim of 4 teens is wrong - an error. She doesn’t know exaclty when or where it (allegedly) happened - nearly 40 years ago FFS!

There were 5 teens at the party. Ford, Kav, Judge and two others. There were only 3 in the room during the incident, Ford, Kav and Judge. The therapy notes incorrectly said the other two teens were in the room during the incident and she clarified. Get it?

Then the therapy notes are of no use as even the “victims” dispute them.

So, what else you got?

The therapy notes simply show that this incident was being talked about before Kavanaugh was ever nominated for SCOTUS. Simple as that

 

[dave p]

You are dodging around answering my questions. Let’s start simple. If she was fabricating a story why would she name two boys and not just the one she is targeting?

Why even take a polygraph? Why even ask for an FBI investigation like her lawyer has requested.

None of those add up to actions that a false accuser would take

I dodged nothing. After reading all there is about this. I have concluded that she is lying. You may have a different view, that is your right. I don’t have to explain any further why I feel this way. I have answered. You didn’t like the answeres. That fine. I don’t accept yours. That’s fine too.

You have every right to have a different opinion. For the record I’m not saying she is telling the truth. I need to hear more to make a solid conclusion. But when I ask why she would name two boys when fabricating a story, you didn’t answer. When I asked why should would take a polygraph, you say that polygraphs are not conclusive, that doesn’t answer my question about why she would take one. When I ask why she would call for the FBI to investigate, something that could expose her lie (if she was lying) you say she isn’t asking for that... but she is through her attorney!

So yeah, you are dodging my questions

I answered you didn’t like them.

When Slade doesn’t like the answers and can’t refute them, his go to response is you’re ‘dodging’.

I say somebody is dodging when they dodge. I pointed out exactly how he dodged for all three questions. He actually Did answer the last question but What he said didn’t happen. She did call for an FBI investigation, he said she didn’t

Try reading. Her lawyer said it doesn’t need to be the FBI. Like I said you don’t like the answers. I never dodged. I owe you nothing more than you got. I didn’t even owe you that.

 

[dave p]

She looks like the late Tom Petty

-Geaux

Tom Petty still looks better, even today!

 

[Slade3200]

How would I investigate? I’d interview Ford, Kavanaugh and Judge... I’dask for the names of the other two teens who were at the party and interview them. Id try and get as many details from talking to those 5 individuals and see where it goes. It might go nowhere or it might go somewhere. Never know till you try.

She’s already named the two teens. And She’s already said the claim of 4 teens is wrong - an error. She doesn’t know exaclty when or where it (allegedly) happened - nearly 40 years ago FFS!

There were 5 teens at the party. Ford, Kav, Judge and two others. There were only 3 in the room during the incident, Ford, Kav and Judge. The therapy notes incorrectly said the other two teens were in the room during the incident and she clarified. Get it?

Yes I get it, but you don’t seem to.
She has stated that she told NOBODY about what happened, so the only people who can offer any insight are the 2 who were allegedly in the room with her. They’ve both ALREADY denied any knowledge of what she alleges happened. Get it yet?

Yeah I get the he said he said she said part of it. But there were two other teens at the party. Perhaps they can verify whether the party took place. Maybe they remember the date and location. And these statements by Ford, Judge, and Kavanaugh, have any of them been while underoath or been questioned by investigators? Don’t you think that might be useful?

Perhaps if 4 people have no recollection of the party then Kavanaughs story would be more accepted. Perhaps if 3 people remember and the two accused deny then Ford story holds more weight. There is plenty out there to dig up that Can swing this either way, you seem to want to ignore it all

2 have been identified. Both say it never happened.

What else you got?

The two who were accused deny it, wow, shocking... note they have not denied it under oath. Ford has not made the accusation under oath either. And what about the two other teens who were at the party? Don’t you think a few FBI interviews could uncover a lot? Why don’t you want to dig any more?

 

[eagle1462010]

I already have . Her star witness, not the accused said it didn’t happen. Do you understand the false readings of polygraphs. It sounds great but means nothing. Why wouldn’t she name Kavanaugh? She isn’t asking the FBI to investigate. The lawyer said any investigation would be fine. They know it won’t be conclusive and won’t be damming. That way they can carry on their narrative.

You are dodging around answering my questions. Let’s start simple. If she was fabricating a story why would she name two boys and not just the one she is targeting?

Why even take a polygraph? Why even ask for an FBI investigation like her lawyer has requested.

None of those add up to actions that a false accuser would take

I dodged nothing. After reading all there is about this. I have concluded that she is lying. You may have a different view, that is your right. I don’t have to explain any further why I feel this way. I have answered. You didn’t like the answeres. That fine. I don’t accept yours. That’s fine too.

You have every right to have a different opinion. For the record I’m not saying she is telling the truth. I need to hear more to make a solid conclusion. But when I ask why she would name two boys when fabricating a story, you didn’t answer. When I asked why should would take a polygraph, you say that polygraphs are not conclusive, that doesn’t answer my question about why she would take one. When I ask why she would call for the FBI to investigate, something that could expose her lie (if she was lying) you say she isn’t asking for that... but she is through her attorney!

So yeah, you are dodging my questions

She originally told a therapist that there were four boys in the room others were in the house and more were outside. Since the letter came out she bows claims that the notes taken by the therapist are wrong.

She claims she does not know who was responsible for the party.
She claims she does not know how she got there.
She claims she does not know where the party was.
She claims she does not know on what date it happened.
She claims she does not know how she got home.
She claims she told no one until 2012 when she told a therapist.

Both of the boys say they have never seen anything or done anything even similar.
She has a reason to hate Kavanaugh in that his mother was involved as the judge in her parents foreclosure. Considering the foreclosure one can assume that the Kavanaugh's had more money.
She hates Trump and wrote a letter against his policies.

Suddenly another woman who was not in her circle of friends says that she heard about it but does not know any particulars. How did she hear about it if the accussor did not tell anyone?

The FBI did six background checks on the guy and found nothing. Now suddenly all the people that claimed they should be believed are saying that they missed things.

There are so many holes in her story that you could fly a 747 through it and not hurt the paint.

You got some serious fluff in there. First off the foreclosure story is unsubstantiated right wing propaganda being used to support a motive of her lying. Show me one credible network reporting that story. I don’t think you can. I can show you Fox refuting it if you don’t believe me.

Also all the holes you pointed out aren’t evidence that she is lying. She either didn’t remember those details or she didn’t want to disclose them to a reporter. Perhaps if she was interviewed under oath by an FBI agent there would be more details.

FBI will not take the case...........there is no federal crime.
Locals will not take the case..........Statue of Limitations.
The Senate will here her out........in public.....in private.......they will go to her if needed........still no dice.......

Nothing............If she didn't want to come forward she should have never sent the letter..........

Funny thing......for someone not wanting to pursue it...........she gets a lie detector test and a lawyer in August..........hmmmm.....then they leak it at the last moment............

Ridiculous.

 

[Slade3200]

You are dodging around answering my questions. Let’s start simple. If she was fabricating a story why would she name two boys and not just the one she is targeting?

Why even take a polygraph? Why even ask for an FBI investigation like her lawyer has requested.

None of those add up to actions that a false accuser would take

Wow! Anyone would think you’ve never ever heard that sometimes people make false accusations against others!

See when I ask specific questions and you avoid answering them to make generalized statements like that it feels like you are giving up on the debate.

Nope. You simply accuse people who aren’t into speculating about her motives as ‘dodging’, and that’s probably because you are making a bit of an ass of yourself by referring to her completely vague and unsubstantiated 40 year old accusations as ‘credible’ and having ‘substance’.
She can’t even say exaclty when and where it happened - hardly substantive!

Her statement is credible and with substance. That’s different from being convincingly true or Fact. I’ve said more needs to be uncovered for a credible conclusion to be drawn. And all we have to go off right now is analyzing motives and actions which you all seem to want to gloss right over so you can point out what she doesn’t remember.

It is the alleged victims duty to uncover more, and nobody else’s. What part of that do you not understand

I never said anything of the sort. How about you don’t put words in my mouth

 

[Pop23]

‘Described the situation’ is nothing more than making an unsubstantiated allegation. She also keeps changing her story - 4 people/2 people.
A lie detector test has no credence whatsoever.

She did not speak about the incident for decades after it allegedly happened. One of the 2-4 other people allegedly present has said he has no recollection whatsoever of the ‘event’.

So, what we have here is a he said/she said situation, an expired SOL, and an almost 40 year gap between when the alleged thing happened and when she decided to make an issue of it.

Tell me exaclty how you’d investigate this further?

(Oh, and she can’t be sure when it happened, nor exaclty where it happened)
Laughable.

How would I investigate? I’d interview Ford, Kavanaugh and Judge... I’dask for the names of the other two teens who were at the party and interview them. Id try and get as many details from talking to those 5 individuals and see where it goes. It might go nowhere or it might go somewhere. Never know till you try.

She’s already named the two teens. And She’s already said the claim of 4 teens is wrong - an error. She doesn’t know exaclty when or where it (allegedly) happened - nearly 40 years ago FFS!

There were 5 teens at the party. Ford, Kav, Judge and two others. There were only 3 in the room during the incident, Ford, Kav and Judge. The therapy notes incorrectly said the other two teens were in the room during the incident and she clarified. Get it?

Then the therapy notes are of no use as even the “victims” dispute them.

So, what else you got?

The therapy notes simply show that this incident was being talked about before Kavanaugh was ever nominated for SCOTUS. Simple as that

They do no such thing. Her letter states two boys were in the room when the assault happened. The therapist note states four. It’s obvious she is describing a completely different time.

Now try getting THAT placed into evidence.

 

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Wow! Anyone would think you’ve never ever heard that sometimes people make false accusations against others!

See when I ask specific questions and you avoid answering them to make generalized statements like that it feels like you are giving up on the debate.

Nope. You simply accuse people who aren’t into speculating about her motives as ‘dodging’, and that’s probably because you are making a bit of an ass of yourself by referring to her completely vague and unsubstantiated 40 year old accusations as ‘credible’ and having ‘substance’.
She can’t even say exaclty when and where it happened - hardly substantive!

Her statement is credible and with substance. That’s different from being convincingly true or Fact. I’ve said more needs to be uncovered for a credible conclusion to be drawn. And all we have to go off right now is analyzing motives and actions which you all seem to want to gloss right over so you can point out what she doesn’t remember.

It is the alleged victims duty to uncover more, and nobody else’s. What part of that do you not understand

I never said anything of the sort. How about you don’t put words in my mouth

You’ve been harping on the FBI to do her work for her.