The Temple Mount Myth Revealed

[Phoenall]

Why don't you tell us who lived in Iraq before the Muslims invaded, who lived in Egypt before the Muslims invaded, who lived in Iran before the Muslims invaded, etc. etc. And the big question is who lived on the Saudi Peninsula before the Arabs got there? Did the Arabs just pop out of thin air? Try as you might to take away the Jews' connection to Jerusalem, you are just another Muslim who can't stand to see the Jews have any piece of land. Muslims like you want to see the entire Middle East as one big Muslim entity regardless of the history of other people. Imagine if your brethren weren't eventually stopped in Europe, you would be claiming that the European continent is Muslim land.

There is no invasion, those people mostly converted to islam.

The argument that Hebrews lived some 4000 years ago in the region so they have the right to invade the cities 4000 years after is more than stupid!

do you have other people that were reminded everywhere that they were strangers, even when assimilated because of their Jewish blood and heritage?
After 2000 years of this, upon our arrival home ... frankly who cares what you think anymore,look at the mess in you garden and try to keep up WITH us as many muslim countries begin to do.

Hebrews lived in Egypt more than in Jerusalem!

No. The Bible says the Hebrews lived in Egypt 400 years, but Jewish legend cuts that figure down to 210 years. The First Temple lasted for 410 years, and the Second for 420 years. That equals 830 years.

The bible says a lot of untruths.

As does the koran as well, so what is your point. When the Bible is supported by scientific and other written evidence then it is not untruthful

 

[Phoenall]

I agree, the bible is not historical, but that doesn't not stop them from creating history from the bible, which they are doing.

The "bible" is not historical. (From the Jewish faith perspective, the Tanakh is not intended to be historical.) That said, there is evidence that at least some of the characters, places and events are historically true and clearly connected to the Jewish people.

Trying to disconnect the Jewish people from that history is not sourced in objective "truths", but a subjective, biased, largely intentional discrimination against the Jewish people.

Pove it, any one it. When one talks about jewish, please let us know who your talking about.

Can you prove that the arab muslims calling themselves palestinians are actually ethnic palestinians and have roots to the land. The islamic buildings erected 50 years after mo,mads death when the muslims first entered Jerusalem do not prove they were ethnic palestinians , they prove they were invaders and colonisers.


Jewish people are those that lived in the area of palestine so named by the Romans who practised Judaism and worshipped a God call Yahweh. They were the people of Jesus Christ as proven by the Bible when it says that his mother and father had to travel to their birthplace to register in the Roman census of the Jewish people. The Catholics and muslims tried to steal the identity from the Jews and failed because they were spread all around the known world by this time and they were starting to become the best of the best in their chosen proffesions.

You don't know about the Maccabee forcing conversion then hey? How about so many sons of Jacobs marrying and having children with Canaanite women, REad Ezra again!!!

Did that happen in the last 100 years or so, when it was illegal under international law to do so. It is still happening today in islamic nations. How about many thousands of Englishmen marrying women from other nations and having children withn them. Does the US still insist on having a rabbit produced when a couple apply for a marriage licence ?

 

[RoccoR]

Freeman, et al,

You are absolutely correct. Who have sovereignty and independence (title and rights) over "what" territory --- and "when," may be interesting.--- but is not relevant. It is enough to say that (realistically) both the Arabs and the Hebrews (Jews) have an established historic connection to the territories in question. But then, so do the people whose ancestral linage goes back to the time of the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Egyptians, Ottomans and Romans. Oddly enough, the Ptolemaic dynasty (Macedonian) over Egypt was a Hellenistic in character, which last for three centuries; ending around 30 BC.

I believe that even the Mongol Empire decimated the population of Jerusalem and sacked the City a couple of times. And of course, everyone has heard the story of how the Kurd's (An-Nasir Salah ad-Din ) recaptured Jerusalem. And even the Great Napolian had captured Jerusalem in 1799

1799 French Napoleon conquers Palestine, with the final battle being the defeat of Acre.

The argument that Hebrews lived some 4000 years ago in the region so they have the right to invade the cities 4000 years after is more than stupid!

(COMMENT)

In contemporary times (19th Century Forward), the we see the Ottoman Empire having Sovereignty (Title and Rights) being past on to the Allied Powers and the creation of additional states through the right of self-determination.

However, even into the current day, the Treaty of Westphalia (1648) still has some meaning; as it clarified and defined the principles of sovereignty and equality. In part, the Westphalia Treaty said:

—what has from the beginning of the unrest, no matter how or where, from one side or the other, happened in terms of hostility—so that neither because of that, nor for any other reason or pretext, should anyone commit, or allow to happen, any hostility, unfriendliness, difficulty, or obstacle in respect to persons, their status, goods, or security itself, or through others, secretly or openly, directly or indirectly, under the pretense of the authority of the law, or by way of violence within the Kingdom, or anywhere outside of it, and any earlier contradictory treaties should not stand against this.
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Most Respectfully,
R

 

[jillian]

There is a lot of contradictions about the supposed Mount Temple, when Maimonide visited Jerusalem he proposed that a temple in the city will unite the prayer of jews and this temple shouldn't built by humans but will come from heaven.

Concerning the place, some rabbis says that it's below the actual Alaqsa Mosque, others says it's above but other rabbis confirm that it's not in that place but near Jerusalem or in Nablus mount.

Professor in Tel Aviv university and Archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and his colleagues confirm that many biblical stories never happened, but were written by what he calls `a creative copywriter' to advance an ideological agenda.
Israel Finkelstein states:

"There is no archaeological evidence for it," he says. "This is something unexampled in history. I don't think there is any other place in the world where there was a city with such a wretched material infrastructure but which succeeded in creating such a sweeping movement in its favor as Jerusalem, which even in its time of greatness was a joke in comparison to the cities of Assyria, Babylon or Egypt. It was a typical mountain village. There is no magnificent finding, no gates of Nebuchadnezzar, no Assyrian reliefs, no Egyptian temples - nothing. Even the temple couldn't compete with the temples of Egypt and their splendor."

Archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and his colleagues are stirring controversy with contentions that many biblical stories never

how cute, some more garbage from the jew-hating propagandist.

go burn a cross

 

[Phoenall]

But none of that is even worth discussing because it makes no difference.

It only makes a difference because Team Palestine uses it to argue against Jewish rights to sovereignty over any of the land and to usurp Jewish holy places and Jewish history.

While, I might agree with you that it ultimately makes no difference in terms of who has actual control over territory and actual sovereignty there, still I will not stand by and permit Jewish history to be denied or erased. Its a matter of principle.

Very well and the younger generation is following with the same intent and passion. However the Jewish way isn't to argue for survival with the enemy but to 'go in' and get a deeper sense of our heritage, multiply and fight when necessary.

And ironically all these people attacking our identity today only strengthen our motivation to keep drinking from the roots. Our collective identity transforms and gets stronger than that of the last 5 generations or so.

Yes which is why the holocaust story is still alive and strong, even thought most of it was greatly exaggerated.

According to the nazi's and islamic propagandists, the photographic evidence tells the true story

 

[Freeman]

There is a lot of contradictions about the supposed Mount Temple, when Maimonide visited Jerusalem he proposed that a temple in the city will unite the prayer of jews and this temple shouldn't built by humans but will come from heaven.

Concerning the place, some rabbis says that it's below the actual Alaqsa Mosque, others says it's above but other rabbis confirm that it's not in that place but near Jerusalem or in Nablus mount.

Professor in Tel Aviv university and Archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and his colleagues confirm that many biblical stories never happened, but were written by what he calls `a creative copywriter' to advance an ideological agenda.
Israel Finkelstein states:

"There is no archaeological evidence for it," he says. "This is something unexampled in history. I don't think there is any other place in the world where there was a city with such a wretched material infrastructure but which succeeded in creating such a sweeping movement in its favor as Jerusalem, which even in its time of greatness was a joke in comparison to the cities of Assyria, Babylon or Egypt. It was a typical mountain village. There is no magnificent finding, no gates of Nebuchadnezzar, no Assyrian reliefs, no Egyptian temples - nothing. Even the temple couldn't compete with the temples of Egypt and their splendor."

Archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and his colleagues are stirring controversy with contentions that many biblical stories never

how cute, some more garbage from the jew-hating propagandist.

go burn a cross

It's confirmation from "israelis" archaeologists!

 

[Hossfly]

There is a lot of contradictions about the supposed Mount Temple, when Maimonide visited Jerusalem he proposed that a temple in the city will unite the prayer of jews and this temple shouldn't built by humans but will come from heaven.

Concerning the place, some rabbis says that it's below the actual Alaqsa Mosque, others says it's above but other rabbis confirm that it's not in that place but near Jerusalem or in Nablus mount.

Professor in Tel Aviv university and Archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and his colleagues confirm that many biblical stories never happened, but were written by what he calls `a creative copywriter' to advance an ideological agenda.
Israel Finkelstein states:

"There is no archaeological evidence for it," he says. "This is something unexampled in history. I don't think there is any other place in the world where there was a city with such a wretched material infrastructure but which succeeded in creating such a sweeping movement in its favor as Jerusalem, which even in its time of greatness was a joke in comparison to the cities of Assyria, Babylon or Egypt. It was a typical mountain village. There is no magnificent finding, no gates of Nebuchadnezzar, no Assyrian reliefs, no Egyptian temples - nothing. Even the temple couldn't compete with the temples of Egypt and their splendor."

Archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and his colleagues are stirring controversy with contentions that many biblical stories never

how cute, some more garbage from the jew-hating propagandist.

go burn a cross

It's confirmation from "israelis" archaeologists!

Have you gone to the Temple Mount to make verification? I didn't think so. BTW, it's kinda funny to see you dismiss everything about Judaism but you believe every little tidbit about what Jewish archaeologists question. Typical Arab mentality.

 

[Phoenall]

There is a lot of contradictions about the supposed Mount Temple, when Maimonide visited Jerusalem he proposed that a temple in the city will unite the prayer of jews and this temple shouldn't built by humans but will come from heaven.

Concerning the place, some rabbis says that it's below the actual Alaqsa Mosque, others says it's above but other rabbis confirm that it's not in that place but near Jerusalem or in Nablus mount.

Professor in Tel Aviv university and Archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and his colleagues confirm that many biblical stories never happened, but were written by what he calls `a creative copywriter' to advance an ideological agenda.
Israel Finkelstein states:

"There is no archaeological evidence for it," he says. "This is something unexampled in history. I don't think there is any other place in the world where there was a city with such a wretched material infrastructure but which succeeded in creating such a sweeping movement in its favor as Jerusalem, which even in its time of greatness was a joke in comparison to the cities of Assyria, Babylon or Egypt. It was a typical mountain village. There is no magnificent finding, no gates of Nebuchadnezzar, no Assyrian reliefs, no Egyptian temples - nothing. Even the temple couldn't compete with the temples of Egypt and their splendor."

Archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and his colleagues are stirring controversy with contentions that many biblical stories never

how cute, some more garbage from the jew-hating propagandist.

go burn a cross

It's confirmation from "israelis" archaeologists!

No it is just islamonazi propaganda that was produced by pallywood production's for morons like you to peddle.

She could not give an explanation for the artifacts found and was stumped as to how they got their. Being a mormon she would never aspire to being an Israeli archeologist.

 

[rylah]

But none of that is even worth discussing because it makes no difference.

It only makes a difference because Team Palestine uses it to argue against Jewish rights to sovereignty over any of the land and to usurp Jewish holy places and Jewish history.

While, I might agree with you that it ultimately makes no difference in terms of who has actual control over territory and actual sovereignty there, still I will not stand by and permit Jewish history to be denied or erased. Its a matter of principle.

Very well and the younger generation is following with the same intent and passion. However the Jewish way isn't to argue for survival with the enemy but to 'go in' and get a deeper sense of our heritage, multiply and fight when necessary.

And ironically all these people attacking our identity today only strengthen our motivation to keep drinking from the roots. Our collective identity transforms and gets stronger than that of the last 5 generations or so.

Yes which is why the holocaust story is still alive and strong, even thought most of it was greatly exaggerated.

It was a horrific catastrophe and will be remembered as part of our collective heritage, especially because people like you keep on pushing that wound. The only reason you say things like that is because you think you can "finish what Hitler started".

 

[rylah]

Shusha, et al,

Your stated objective (to delegitimize the Jewish people) is to align the facts to support a preconceived notion (truth immaterial). It is not about evaluating the evidence to logically come to the truth.

What it is NOT is an “Objective Judgment or Belief” based on objectively strong supporting evidence, the sort of evidence that would be compelling for any rational system.

(COMMENT)

In this case, the notion of "delegitimize the Jewish People" is missing the relationship. What particular claim or fact are you trying to delegitimize?

What is the OP working towards?

Most Respectfully,
R

Israelites lived just about two centuries in Jerusalem, who lived there before that date?

Why don't you tell us who lived in Iraq before the Muslims invaded, who lived in Egypt before the Muslims invaded, who lived in Iran before the Muslims invaded, etc. etc. And the big question is who lived on the Saudi Peninsula before the Arabs got there? Did the Arabs just pop out of thin air? Try as you might to take away the Jews' connection to Jerusalem, you are just another Muslim who can't stand to see the Jews have any piece of land. Muslims like you want to see the entire Middle East as one big Muslim entity regardless of the history of other people. Imagine if your brethren weren't eventually stopped in Europe, you would be claiming that the European continent is Muslim land.

There is no invasion, those people mostly converted to islam.

The argument that Hebrews lived some 4000 years ago in the region so they have the right to invade the cities 4000 years after is more than stupid!

do you have other people that were reminded everywhere that they were strangers, even when assimilated because of their Jewish blood and heritage?
After 2000 years of this, upon our arrival home ... frankly who cares what you think anymore,look at the mess in you garden and try to keep up WITH us as many muslim countries begin to do.

Hebrews lived in Egypt more than in Jerusalem!

Hebrews lived in Israel for 4000 years, the connection and the physical presence never stopped.
But even if you were right, much more powerful men have already officially recognized our connection to this land. All this while Muslims turn their asses 5 times a day towards Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem

 

[Shusha]

There is no invasion, those people mostly converted to islam.

The argument that Hebrews lived some 4000 years ago in the region so they have the right to invade the cities 4000 years after is more than stupid!

Same old tired hypocritical arguments, where the Jewish people are always wrong.

There was no invasion of the land when the Muslims came. The people there just mostly converted to Islam. It was an empty place and the Arabs just settled it and converted everyone. There was an empty mountain and the Arab Muslims just built a structure on it. No harm, no foul, right?

So let's play that game, then. There was no invasion of the land when the Jewish people returned to the land of their ancestors. A land with no people for a people with no land, right? The Jewish people just bought property and settled there. And the people there converted back to Judaism. No harm, no foul, right?


Ya can't have it both ways, Freeman.

 

[Penelope]

Please learn some history, the reason the Zionist got permission to storm in on the Palestinians was to guard the Suez Canal. Nothing to do with Judaism, except for some who didn't know the real reason, some did go there because they believed the stories in the OT, but the early leaders did not nor do they today. They put on a good show.

 

[Freeman]

There is no invasion, those people mostly converted to islam.

The argument that Hebrews lived some 4000 years ago in the region so they have the right to invade the cities 4000 years after is more than stupid!

Same old tired hypocritical arguments, where the Jewish people are always wrong.

There was no invasion of the land when the Muslims came. The people there just mostly converted to Islam. It was an empty place and the Arabs just settled it and converted everyone. There was an empty mountain and the Arab Muslims just built a structure on it. No harm, no foul, right?

So let's play that game, then. There was no invasion of the land when the Jewish people returned to the land of their ancestors. A land with no people for a people with no land, right? The Jewish people just bought property and settled there. And the people there converted back to Judaism. No harm, no foul, right?


Ya can't have it both ways, Freeman.

You said "Land without people"!

 

[Hossfly]

There is no invasion, those people mostly converted to islam.

The argument that Hebrews lived some 4000 years ago in the region so they have the right to invade the cities 4000 years after is more than stupid!

Same old tired hypocritical arguments, where the Jewish people are always wrong.

There was no invasion of the land when the Muslims came. The people there just mostly converted to Islam. It was an empty place and the Arabs just settled it and converted everyone. There was an empty mountain and the Arab Muslims just built a structure on it. No harm, no foul, right?

So let's play that game, then. There was no invasion of the land when the Jewish people returned to the land of their ancestors. A land with no people for a people with no land, right? The Jewish people just bought property and settled there. And the people there converted back to Judaism. No harm, no foul, right?


Ya can't have it both ways, Freeman.

You said "Land without people"!

It's too bad that Freeman couldn't have journeyed with Mark Twain. As a journalist, he took in everything he saw so that he could write about it. Can Freeman tell us what would have happened to the Arabs if the Zionists didn't come to the area and give his brethren jobs? Would they have stayed in their original poverty-stricken countries and let themselves and their families go hungry? Is that the reason you emigrated to the West, Freeman?

 

[theliq]

People from from almost any country on earth immigrating to another country will assimilate into that country's fabric within a couple of generations. The Jews are the exception. Jews around the world are the same as the ones who left Egypt. You're premises are 100% false, Agnes.[/QUO

Rubbish Hoss,how can Jews of today be the same as the Israelites of Egypt,non were Zionists for a start.....the Jews after 1948 are completely different people to those of a bygone era and most are not even Jews in the original sense because they are merely CONVERTS TO JUDAISM and are Turkic,Tartar and other Central Asian.......You are talking to me here Hoss one of the most enlightened on here.......Your pro-Judaism is ill founded completely.

steve

People from from almost any country on earth immigrating to another country will assimilate into that country's fabric within a couple of generations. The Jews are the exception. Jews around the world are the same as the ones who left Egypt. You're premises are 100% false, Agnes.[/QUO

Rubbish Hoss,how can Jews of today be the same as the Israelites of Egypt,non were Zionists for a start.....the Jews after 1948 are completely different people to those of a bygone era and most are not even Jews in the original sense because they are merely CONVERTS TO JUDAISM and are Turkic,Tartar and other Central Asian.......You are talking to me here Hoss one of the most enlightened on here.......Your pro-Judaism is ill founded completely.

steve

Why are you stuttering, Steve?

W,Wh,Wha,What Hoss,W,Wh,Wha,What are you say,say,saying Hoss,Hoss?me sssssstttttuuuuttteeeeerrrrrrrrrrriiiiinnnnnggggggggggggggggg.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!stevvvveee

 

[theliq]

But none of that is even worth discussing because it makes no difference.

It only makes a difference because Team Palestine uses it to argue against Jewish rights to sovereignty over any of the land and to usurp Jewish holy places and Jewish history.

While, I might agree with you that it ultimately makes no difference in terms of who has actual control over territory and actual sovereignty there, still I will not stand by and permit Jewish history to be denied or erased. Its a matter of principle.

Very well and the younger generation is following with the same intent and passion. However the Jewish way isn't to argue for survival with the enemy but to 'go in' and get a deeper sense of our heritage, multiply and fight when necessary.

And ironically all these people attacking our identity today only strengthen our motivation to keep drinking from the roots. Our collective identity transforms and gets stronger than that of the last 5 generations or so.

Yes but what REAL IDENTITY,Jews in Israel after 1948 are a manufactured nation,the kibbutz system saw to that.....that they have little or NO semblance of Jews of the bible........the overseas Jews came to Palestine as a majority of Jewish converts to Judasium sic and are Tartars,Turkic and Central Asians not Jews at all,no direct link to Abraham........."Fight was the operative word in you post,considering the huge amount of Palestinian Men, WOMEN AND CHILDREN YOU HAVE SLAUGHTERED AND MAIMED"You are completely disgusting and shameful.....deeper sense of your heritage>>>>MY ASS

 

[Hossfly]

But none of that is even worth discussing because it makes no difference.

It only makes a difference because Team Palestine uses it to argue against Jewish rights to sovereignty over any of the land and to usurp Jewish holy places and Jewish history.

While, I might agree with you that it ultimately makes no difference in terms of who has actual control over territory and actual sovereignty there, still I will not stand by and permit Jewish history to be denied or erased. Its a matter of principle.

Very well and the younger generation is following with the same intent and passion. However the Jewish way isn't to argue for survival with the enemy but to 'go in' and get a deeper sense of our heritage, multiply and fight when necessary.

And ironically all these people attacking our identity today only strengthen our motivation to keep drinking from the roots. Our collective identity transforms and gets stronger than that of the last 5 generations or so.

Yes but what REAL IDENTITY,Jews in Israel after 1948 are a manufactured nation,the kibbutz system saw to that.....that they have little or NO semblance of Jews of the bible........the overseas Jews came to Palestine as a majority of Jewish converts to Judasium sic and are Tartars,Turkic and Central Asians not Jews at all,no direct link to Abraham........."Fight was the operative word in you post,considering the huge amount of Palestinian Men, WOMEN AND CHILDREN YOU HAVE SLAUGHTERED AND MAIMED"You are completely disgusting and shameful.....deeper sense of your heritage>>>>MY ASS

Tut tut.

Your ass is telling you not to read those hate sites about the Jews being Khazars. Most of the Jews living in Israel are Mizrahi Jews straight from the Middle East who have the same DNA as the Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews.. Can you get back to us after we see your book on the best selling list regarding the DNA of the Jews? Naturally the book after this will be about the Muslims invading all those countries in the Middle East, such as Egypt and Iraq, and killing the people who refused to convert to Islam. You certainly don't want readers to think you are not evenhanded so you have to cover all bases even though it might be hard for you to do. As for shameful and disgusting, look in your mirror.

 

[theliq]

But none of that is even worth discussing because it makes no difference.

It only makes a difference because Team Palestine uses it to argue against Jewish rights to sovereignty over any of the land and to usurp Jewish holy places and Jewish history.

While, I might agree with you that it ultimately makes no difference in terms of who has actual control over territory and actual sovereignty there, still I will not stand by and permit Jewish history to be denied or erased. Its a matter of principle.

Very well and the younger generation is following with the same intent and passion. However the Jewish way isn't to argue for survival with the enemy but to 'go in' and get a deeper sense of our heritage, multiply and fight when necessary.

And ironically all these people attacking our identity today only strengthen our motivation to keep drinking from the roots. Our collective identity transforms and gets stronger than that of the last 5 generations or so.

Yes but what REAL IDENTITY,Jews in Israel after 1948 are a manufactured nation,the kibbutz system saw to that.....that they have little or NO semblance of Jews of the bible........the overseas Jews came to Palestine as a majority of Jewish converts to Judasium sic and are Tartars,Turkic and Central Asians not Jews at all,no direct link to Abraham........."Fight was the operative word in you post,considering the huge amount of Palestinian Men, WOMEN AND CHILDREN YOU HAVE SLAUGHTERED AND MAIMED"You are completely disgusting and shameful.....deeper sense of your heritage>>>>MY ASS

Tut tut.

Your ass is telling you not to read those hate sites about the Jews being Khazars. Most of the Jews living in Israel are Mizrahi Jews straight from the Middle East who have the same DNA as the Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews.. Can you get back to us after we see your book on the best selling list regarding the DNA of the Jews? Naturally the book after this will be about the Muslims invading all those countries in the Middle East, such as Egypt and Iraq, and killing the people who refused to convert to Islam. You certainly don't want readers to think you are not evenhanded so you have to cover all bases even though it might be hard for you to do. As for shameful and disgusting, look in your mirror.

Hoss,I can be very cutting with my comments.........with good reason,I don't subscribe to the Zionist DNA propaganda like you,to say that Ashken nazi Jews have the same DNA as Sephardic Jews is completely erroneous,the nearest peoples to the Shephardic DNA is the Palestinians......as you full well know....even you and I would have more Jewish blood in us than the Ashkenazi's ......... Stop all this Mirror on the wall semantics you create to forward your inaccurate posts regarding this matter.....brother......steve Tut,Tut Indeed

 

[Phoenall]

Please learn some history, the reason the Zionist got permission to storm in on the Palestinians was to guard the Suez Canal. Nothing to do with Judaism, except for some who didn't know the real reason, some did go there because they believed the stories in the OT, but the early leaders did not nor do they today. They put on a good show.

So the Ottomans that owned the Suez canal in the first place invited the Jews to migrate to a nation 200 miles away so they could protect the suez canal. That is a fantastic quantum leap of stupidity even for you. And the palestinians were Jews dont forget, the arab muslims called themselves syrians and were very nomadic moving around constantly because they soon depleted the resources of the area they stopped in.

 

[theliq]

There is no invasion, those people mostly converted to islam.

The argument that Hebrews lived some 4000 years ago in the region so they have the right to invade the cities 4000 years after is more than stupid!

Same old tired hypocritical arguments, where the Jewish people are always wrong.

There was no invasion of the land when the Muslims came. The people there just mostly converted to Islam. It was an empty place and the Arabs just settled it and converted everyone. There was an empty mountain and the Arab Muslims just built a structure on it. No harm, no foul, right?

So let's play that game, then. There was no invasion of the land when the Jewish people returned to the land of their ancestors. A land with no people for a people with no land, right? The Jewish people just bought property and settled there. And the people there converted back to Judaism. No harm, no foul, right?


Ya can't have it both ways, Freeman.

You said "Land without people"!

It's too bad that Freeman couldn't have journeyed with Mark Twain. As a journalist, he took in everything he saw so that he could write about it. Can Freeman tell us what would have happened to the Arabs if the Zionists didn't come to the area and give his brethren jobs? Would they have stayed in their original poverty-stricken countries and let themselves and their families go hungry? Is that the reason you emigrated to the West, Freeman?

O Hoss,That's a really poor post from you.....take a deep breath friend,count to 20,that will clear all the Zionist SHIT out of your mind..steve