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Let's begin with jobs (given that you bleated ignorantly about them).They use LINKS; phony ones at that which are mostly opinion pieces, to support their positions.Who did Hillary have running her campaign? How do you put people in charge of money, who have never handled massive amounts of money and understand its movement? The whole lefty narrative is phony, it really is. They use LINKS; phony ones at that which are mostly opinion pieces, to support their positions.
Not a one of them will debate their standing from LOGIC because their positions fail each and every time! You get these people like the BIG L who posts a position, and when you ask her/him something, they post another link. Nowhere is there ever a give and take, and when they do, the left gets their butts handed to them...which is why they won't, lol.
For the 1st time since I have been on this board, the right is standing up to the left with their own thoughts, instead of ridiculous links! The left can't handle that, because even they know they start from a losing position, and the only way they can wiggle off the hook from a discussion standpoint, is if they can make the debate about emotions..........which is why we are always called racists, and every other name in the book, lol. The left HAS NOTHING, and now in government, it has nothing too!
Sorry lefties, but unless you can debate from your mind and articulate a position being good because of X, and ours being bad because of Y; you are going to be on the outside looking in for a very, very, long time-) America has had enough of your phony outrage, and wants to see results, not they can't find a decent job while Obysmal touts a loooooow unemployment rate. You people are seriously screwed, you do know that; and we love it!
Whenever you are ready......
I am here, go ahead-) I have an hour or 2 before I have to go do something economically constructive-)
Obama's second term will be the third best for private sector job gains ever....
Do you know who has, according to the WSJ, the 'worst jobs record on record'?
And, what do we see as Trump promises to lower taxes and regulations-------> Company's with GOOD PAYING jobs offering to stay, or come back.
LET ME TRANSLATE THAT FOR YOU------------> Obama/Democratic/lefty policies is what helped cause them to leave. The stockmarket has signaled that conclusively. YOUR policies have screwed the blue collar worker, and it is obvious I am not the only one who thinks so, because many of them voted for Trump also!
I don't need any "translation"......I put up the facts and you dig yourself a deeper hole with more Bold Assertions....
The S&P ran up 1300 between Jan 20, 2009 and Nov 8, 2016...
Unemployment dropped precipitously in the "Rust Belt"...
Wanna see the actual numbers?
Specifically?And there's the final nail in the coffin, folks.
If she approves, then you know it's a bad thing.
I think she's right. He has picked on helluva cabinet.
People are saying trump was greatly disappointed to learn Freddie Krueger was not available for a cabinet position. Another pick, Jason, had to be eliminated because he would not remove his mask. Even with these unavailable or rejected candidates, there seems to be not shortage of ordinary run of the mill monsters to fill positions.
Snowflake trigger warning********** Trigglypuff's in da house
Apparently living off the public titty is all you know and can't comprehend what it takes in the private sector to rise to the top.
That is what is frustrating on one hand, and funny on the other over this whole thing Ice. !/2 of the crying does come from liberals who are afraid of what Trump might do because they have been misinformed, but the other 1/2 are a bunch of government workers who are going to actually have to go and find a J-O-B in the wonderful economy they have been lying about for 8 years, lol! What are the leftists WORRIED ABOUT, hehehehehehehe. Look at the UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, Obowelmovement has it down soooooo LOW, so jobs are easy, and plentiful!
Why don't you post the data, and we'll decide....
You could start with the percentage of net private sector payroll gains, since Feb 2001, realized since Feb 2009....
Need help with the math?
Ummm, because I do not know to many Washington insiders willing to take hamburger flipper jobs, do you?
Besides that, we don't have to! We see by the governments own statistics the growth of the economy over the past 8 years, and GUESS who has had as President the WORST economic growth in modern history!
That is correct, WORSE then even Carter, who do you think it is? I will give you 3 guesses and the 1st 2 do not count!
The worst record on GDP growth since the Great Depression?
George W. Bush.....
Roughly 1.6% per year...........this with Federal spending growing at an annual rate of more than 7.5%
Would you care to see the math?
Yep, you are correct. I mis stated, my bad----------->the only President to never, in any quarter, to hit 3%. Score one for you-)
Specifically?And there's the final nail in the coffin, folks.
If she approves, then you know it's a bad thing.
I think she's right. He has picked on helluva cabinet.
All of them. That specific enough??
That is what is frustrating on one hand, and funny on the other over this whole thing Ice. !/2 of the crying does come from liberals who are afraid of what Trump might do because they have been misinformed, but the other 1/2 are a bunch of government workers who are going to actually have to go and find a J-O-B in the wonderful economy they have been lying about for 8 years, lol! What are the leftists WORRIED ABOUT, hehehehehehehe. Look at the UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, Obowelmovement has it down soooooo LOW, so jobs are easy, and plentiful!
Why don't you post the data, and we'll decide....
You could start with the percentage of net private sector payroll gains, since Feb 2001, realized since Feb 2009....
Need help with the math?
Ummm, because I do not know to many Washington insiders willing to take hamburger flipper jobs, do you?
Besides that, we don't have to! We see by the governments own statistics the growth of the economy over the past 8 years, and GUESS who has had as President the WORST economic growth in modern history!
That is correct, WORSE then even Carter, who do you think it is? I will give you 3 guesses and the 1st 2 do not count!
The worst record on GDP growth since the Great Depression?
George W. Bush.....
Roughly 1.6% per year...........this with Federal spending growing at an annual rate of more than 7.5%
Would you care to see the math?
Yep, you are correct. I mis stated, my bad----------->the only President to never, in any quarter, to hit 3%. Score one for you-)
You're an idiot....
Just for example...
Real gross domestic product increased at an annual rate of 3.5 percent in the third quarter of 2016 (table 1), according to the "third" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.
News Release: Gross Domestic Product
So what leads you to say such stupid things?
In THIS particular instance, you recalled something you were told to think by some Breitbart scribbler........because you know nothing, you will believe anything....That's what makes you a Useful Idiot...
No shit? Humans use the term "firemen and cops" when discussing them, not government employees. No one owes you a legal disclaimer when talking to you, if you are too dishonest to carry a conversation it on you. But you do this sort of thing because you can't back up your positions.Yes they get a government check, you hack. Have you seen anyone simply quit the military? You go to jail for it. How dishonest!The Military is the Military. They are NOT considered Government employees by any stretch of the imagination.
Really? So how come they've historically been counted as part of "Total Government Employment"?
Historical Federal Workforce Tables Total Government Employment Since 1962
Government employees are covered by Civil Service Laws and Rules. The Military is not.
Active Duty Military members are subject to the UCMJ, goobermint employees are not
The US Military can NOT form a Union, at this time (Hopefully to change) goobermint employees can.
Active Duty Military can not be sued. Goobermint employees can.
Civil debt rules are totally different for Military.
Is the US Military part of the US Government??? Yes.
But they are NOT Government employees in the same sense as Civil Service employees. They are members of the United States Military.
A whole different ballgame
I never said they were the same, but they ARE government employees.
So are cops and firemen.
Let's begin with jobs (given that you bleated ignorantly about them).They use LINKS; phony ones at that which are mostly opinion pieces, to support their positions.
Whenever you are ready......
I am here, go ahead-) I have an hour or 2 before I have to go do something economically constructive-)
Obama's second term will be the third best for private sector job gains ever....
Do you know who has, according to the WSJ, the 'worst jobs record on record'?
And, what do we see as Trump promises to lower taxes and regulations-------> Company's with GOOD PAYING jobs offering to stay, or come back.
LET ME TRANSLATE THAT FOR YOU------------> Obama/Democratic/lefty policies is what helped cause them to leave. The stockmarket has signaled that conclusively. YOUR policies have screwed the blue collar worker, and it is obvious I am not the only one who thinks so, because many of them voted for Trump also!
I don't need any "translation"......I put up the facts and you dig yourself a deeper hole with more Bold Assertions....
The S&P ran up 1300 between Jan 20, 2009 and Nov 8, 2016...
Unemployment dropped precipitously in the "Rust Belt"...
Wanna see the actual numbers?
Sorry, I was checking your data, I can always learn a thing or 2 ya know. Guess what I found when I went to the BLS-)
Now then, from here forward you either post from the government, or nothing, because you are cherry picking, and any other site but a government site will NOT be responded to, and laughed at!
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/realer.pdf
No shit? Humans use the term "firemen and cops" when discussing them, not government employees. No one owes you a legal disclaimer when talking to you, if you are too dishonest to carry a conversation it on you. But you do this sort of thing because you can't back up your positions.Yes they get a government check, you hack. Have you seen anyone simply quit the military? You go to jail for it. How dishonest!The Military is the Military. They are NOT considered Government employees by any stretch of the imagination.
Really? So how come they've historically been counted as part of "Total Government Employment"?
Historical Federal Workforce Tables Total Government Employment Since 1962
Government employees are covered by Civil Service Laws and Rules. The Military is not.
Active Duty Military members are subject to the UCMJ, goobermint employees are not
The US Military can NOT form a Union, at this time (Hopefully to change) goobermint employees can.
Active Duty Military can not be sued. Goobermint employees can.
Civil debt rules are totally different for Military.
Is the US Military part of the US Government??? Yes.
But they are NOT Government employees in the same sense as Civil Service employees. They are members of the United States Military.
A whole different ballgame
I never said they were the same, but they ARE government employees.
So are cops and firemen.
The Leftist Party today hates Jews, hates American exceptionalism, Chooses illegals over Veterans, flies rainbow flags over the WH while burning the American flag every chance they get..
Oh, I know your personality just fine. I've known plenty of people like you. Dependant on big government, arrogant, hostile and no doubt abusive to any subordinates. Yes, I was in the military too, grew up in it in fact. I know the type.You continue to prove your dishonest nature. You would be outed quickly in a competitive environment.I understand you are full of shit and smearing shit is all you know how to do. You pretend I was talking about the military when I was talking about the public sector. Conservatives are far more supportive of military than you leftist hacks.Apparently living off the public titty is all you know and can't comprehend what it takes in the private sector to rise to the top.
Wow....that's really how ya'll feel about military retirees?
Have you ever done any public service? If you had, perhaps you'd understand my desire to work in the public sector. With the Top Secret security clearance I had in the military I retired from and training background, I could have gotten a fantastic job in the private sector. I chose something more personally rewarding. Do understand that kind of thing?
You are a dishonest piece of shit and I'm sorry the tax payers funded your worthless hide. No, I don't believe you could have done better in the private sector. You needed your fat bulldyke ass protected. God knows how much you cost us.
But military service is the public sector, oh aptly named one.
Yes, the Republicans are going to show us just how much they support the military and veterans...by doing what they don't want done by privatizing the VA.
I really don't care what you believe, that's entirely up to you. I know it it be a fact, but I'm doing what I love and serving my community to boot. Some people have the service gene...you obviously don't and can't even understand someone who does. I feel sorry for you.
No, people are talking about the military when we take about government employees. Military are not employees. The government owns you while you're in.
"Doing it for the community" is horseshit, I don't believe it for a second. Your personality is not the giving loving type.
Again, your belief doesn't change it from fact to fiction. Just as your belief in the lies Trump tells you does not turn fiction into fact. Facts exist whether you "believe" them or not.
You don't know the first thing about my personality and if you think you can determine someone's personality based on what they post on anonymous message boards, you're either young, stupid or have lived under a rock your entire life.
I love what I do and most of the reason for that is the sense of purpose it gives me. After I retired I tried a lot of different things, but what I do now gives me a similar feeling that serving in the military did...and if you've ever experienced that feeling, you'd understand it and would understand why I chose the public sector over the private.
I didn't say that either. You don't have an honest bone in your body.No shit? Humans use the term "firemen and cops" when discussing them, not government employees. No one owes you a legal disclaimer when talking to you, if you are too dishonest to carry a conversation it on you. But you do this sort of thing because you can't back up your positions.Yes they get a government check, you hack. Have you seen anyone simply quit the military? You go to jail for it. How dishonest!Really? So how come they've historically been counted as part of "Total Government Employment"?
Historical Federal Workforce Tables Total Government Employment Since 1962
Government employees are covered by Civil Service Laws and Rules. The Military is not.
Active Duty Military members are subject to the UCMJ, goobermint employees are not
The US Military can NOT form a Union, at this time (Hopefully to change) goobermint employees can.
Active Duty Military can not be sued. Goobermint employees can.
Civil debt rules are totally different for Military.
Is the US Military part of the US Government??? Yes.
But they are NOT Government employees in the same sense as Civil Service employees. They are members of the United States Military.
A whole different ballgame
I never said they were the same, but they ARE government employees.
So are cops and firemen.
Ah, so cops are cops, firemen are firemen...but anyone else who gets a taxpayer funded paycheck is just a sucking leech, is that it?
I haven't said a single thing that wasn't true. Your "belief" in the truth is irrelevant. Facts remain facts whether you believe them or not.
Whaaaat?The Leftist Party today hates Jews, hates American exceptionalism, Chooses illegals over Veterans, flies rainbow flags over the WH while burning the American flag every chance they get..
Most of the liberals are jews. ACLU.
Why don't you post the data, and we'll decide....
You could start with the percentage of net private sector payroll gains, since Feb 2001, realized since Feb 2009....
Need help with the math?
Ummm, because I do not know to many Washington insiders willing to take hamburger flipper jobs, do you?
Besides that, we don't have to! We see by the governments own statistics the growth of the economy over the past 8 years, and GUESS who has had as President the WORST economic growth in modern history!
That is correct, WORSE then even Carter, who do you think it is? I will give you 3 guesses and the 1st 2 do not count!
The worst record on GDP growth since the Great Depression?
George W. Bush.....
Roughly 1.6% per year...........this with Federal spending growing at an annual rate of more than 7.5%
Would you care to see the math?
Yep, you are correct. I mis stated, my bad----------->the only President to never, in any quarter, to hit 3%. Score one for you-)
You're an idiot....
Just for example...
Real gross domestic product increased at an annual rate of 3.5 percent in the third quarter of 2016 (table 1), according to the "third" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.
News Release: Gross Domestic Product
So what leads you to say such stupid things?
In THIS particular instance, you recalled something you were told to think by some Breitbart scribbler........because you know nothing, you will believe anything....That's what makes you a Useful Idiot...
LOL, it is because it wasn't revised, try again after the revision-)
Let's begin with jobs (given that you bleated ignorantly about them).I am here, go ahead-) I have an hour or 2 before I have to go do something economically constructive-)
Obama's second term will be the third best for private sector job gains ever....
Do you know who has, according to the WSJ, the 'worst jobs record on record'?
And, what do we see as Trump promises to lower taxes and regulations-------> Company's with GOOD PAYING jobs offering to stay, or come back.
LET ME TRANSLATE THAT FOR YOU------------> Obama/Democratic/lefty policies is what helped cause them to leave. The stockmarket has signaled that conclusively. YOUR policies have screwed the blue collar worker, and it is obvious I am not the only one who thinks so, because many of them voted for Trump also!
I don't need any "translation"......I put up the facts and you dig yourself a deeper hole with more Bold Assertions....
The S&P ran up 1300 between Jan 20, 2009 and Nov 8, 2016...
Unemployment dropped precipitously in the "Rust Belt"...
Wanna see the actual numbers?
Sorry, I was checking your data, I can always learn a thing or 2 ya know. Guess what I found when I went to the BLS-)
Now then, from here forward you either post from the government, or nothing, because you are cherry picking, and any other site but a government site will NOT be responded to, and laughed at!
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/realer.pdf
What does that data series cover (hint: it's in the title)
Is this the same thing as "Real Median Household Income"?
Take all the time you need....
Do you have any idea what CES is?
Why do you have this desperate need to be exposed as an ignoramus?
Attacking military vets again, I see.I didn't say that either. You don't have an honest bone in your body.No shit? Humans use the term "firemen and cops" when discussing them, not government employees. No one owes you a legal disclaimer when talking to you, if you are too dishonest to carry a conversation it on you. But you do this sort of thing because you can't back up your positions.Yes they get a government check, you hack. Have you seen anyone simply quit the military? You go to jail for it. How dishonest!
Government employees are covered by Civil Service Laws and Rules. The Military is not.
Active Duty Military members are subject to the UCMJ, goobermint employees are not
The US Military can NOT form a Union, at this time (Hopefully to change) goobermint employees can.
Active Duty Military can not be sued. Goobermint employees can.
Civil debt rules are totally different for Military.
Is the US Military part of the US Government??? Yes.
But they are NOT Government employees in the same sense as Civil Service employees. They are members of the United States Military.
A whole different ballgame
I never said they were the same, but they ARE government employees.
So are cops and firemen.
Ah, so cops are cops, firemen are firemen...but anyone else who gets a taxpayer funded paycheck is just a sucking leech, is that it?
I haven't said a single thing that wasn't true. Your "belief" in the truth is irrelevant. Facts remain facts whether you believe them or not.
And there's the final nail in the coffin, folks.
If she approves, then you know it's a bad thing.
I think she's right. He has picked on helluva cabinet.
Whaaaat?The Leftist Party today hates Jews, hates American exceptionalism, Chooses illegals over Veterans, flies rainbow flags over the WH while burning the American flag every chance they get..
Most of the liberals are jews. ACLU.
I've met a LOT of genuine idiotsOh, I know your personality just fine. I've known plenty of people like you. Dependant on big government, arrogant, hostile and no doubt abusive to any subordinates. Yes, I was in the military too, grew up in it in fact. I know the type.You continue to prove your dishonest nature. You would be outed quickly in a competitive environment.I understand you are full of shit and smearing shit is all you know how to do. You pretend I was talking about the military when I was talking about the public sector. Conservatives are far more supportive of military than you leftist hacks.Wow....that's really how ya'll feel about military retirees?
Have you ever done any public service? If you had, perhaps you'd understand my desire to work in the public sector. With the Top Secret security clearance I had in the military I retired from and training background, I could have gotten a fantastic job in the private sector. I chose something more personally rewarding. Do understand that kind of thing?
You are a dishonest piece of shit and I'm sorry the tax payers funded your worthless hide. No, I don't believe you could have done better in the private sector. You needed your fat bulldyke ass protected. God knows how much you cost us.
But military service is the public sector, oh aptly named one.
Yes, the Republicans are going to show us just how much they support the military and veterans...by doing what they don't want done by privatizing the VA.
I really don't care what you believe, that's entirely up to you. I know it it be a fact, but I'm doing what I love and serving my community to boot. Some people have the service gene...you obviously don't and can't even understand someone who does. I feel sorry for you.
No, people are talking about the military when we take about government employees. Military are not employees. The government owns you while you're in.
"Doing it for the community" is horseshit, I don't believe it for a second. Your personality is not the giving loving type.
Again, your belief doesn't change it from fact to fiction. Just as your belief in the lies Trump tells you does not turn fiction into fact. Facts exist whether you "believe" them or not.
You don't know the first thing about my personality and if you think you can determine someone's personality based on what they post on anonymous message boards, you're either young, stupid or have lived under a rock your entire life.
I love what I do and most of the reason for that is the sense of purpose it gives me. After I retired I tried a lot of different things, but what I do now gives me a similar feeling that serving in the military did...and if you've ever experienced that feeling, you'd understand it and would understand why I chose the public sector over the private.
The fact is government is bloated and I've met a LOT of genuine idiots (even principals of schools, responsible for educating our kids) and no amount of obfuscation on your part can change it.
Ummm, because I do not know to many Washington insiders willing to take hamburger flipper jobs, do you?
Besides that, we don't have to! We see by the governments own statistics the growth of the economy over the past 8 years, and GUESS who has had as President the WORST economic growth in modern history!
That is correct, WORSE then even Carter, who do you think it is? I will give you 3 guesses and the 1st 2 do not count!
The worst record on GDP growth since the Great Depression?
George W. Bush.....
Roughly 1.6% per year...........this with Federal spending growing at an annual rate of more than 7.5%
Would you care to see the math?
Yep, you are correct. I mis stated, my bad----------->the only President to never, in any quarter, to hit 3%. Score one for you-)
You're an idiot....
Just for example...
Real gross domestic product increased at an annual rate of 3.5 percent in the third quarter of 2016 (table 1), according to the "third" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.
News Release: Gross Domestic Product
So what leads you to say such stupid things?
In THIS particular instance, you recalled something you were told to think by some Breitbart scribbler........because you know nothing, you will believe anything....That's what makes you a Useful Idiot...
LOL, it is because it wasn't revised, try again after the revision-)
I have no idea what you are saying...I don't speak Idiot...
here's more...
Real gross domestic product -- the value of the production of goods and services in the United States, adjusted for price changes -- increased at an annual rate of 5.0 percent in the third quarter of 2014, according to the "third" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the second quarter, real GDP increased 4.6 percent.
http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USESAEI/2014/12/23/file_attachments/350985/Gross+Domestic+Product+Third+Quarter+2014+%28Third+Estimate%29.pdf
Most of the liberals are jews. ACLU.
Whaaaat?
Double what.Don't what me. Trump is one of the biggest liberals I have ever seen as well.
