The Unprecedented Law Giving Gun Makers And Dealers Immunity

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They do not have an official policy that outlawed the language of one of Japan's native ethnic groups?



A lot of Americans support making English the officlal national language. Is that racist?

Making English the official language is not the same thing as making Spanish illegal. One is simply saying that, if you do business with the government, you have to do it in English, the other is making it illegal to speak a language at all.



And now we return to "If you go back in time far enough..."


Remember Native American children being placed in bording schools where they were forbidden from using their native languages?

Remember the Chinese Exclusion Act?

Hell, remember when some people were only 'counted' as 3/5 of a human being?
 
I don't doubt that you do. Lots and lots of people who live in America would level the same charge against the US. That doesn't mean it is true.

Lots of people living in the US think that we walk out of a room simply because they are not Americans?

You think that (and more) never happens to people in America? You'd be wrong.

People walk out of places all the time when I walk in. Strangely enough, I don't think it has anything to do with race.
 
A lot of Americans support making English the officlal national language. Is that racist?

Making English the official language is not the same thing as making Spanish illegal. One is simply saying that, if you do business with the government, you have to do it in English, the other is making it illegal to speak a language at all.



And now we return to "If you go back in time far enough..."


Remember Native American children being placed in bording schools where they were forbidden from using their native languages?

Remember the Chinese Exclusion Act?

Hell, remember when some people were only 'counted' as 3/5 of a human being?

Are you saying that wasn't racist?
 
The culture is extremely insular.



Ok, how? All the multinational corporations? The thousands and thousands of Japanese managers and engineers working and living abroad? The English-language newspapers and magazines for sale at every major train station? The street maps, road signs, and just about all other public information provided in English? The many, many thousands of people from other countries who live and work in Japan? The popular sports stars and celebrities who are not Japanese? The teaching of English to children from a very early age in all school systems? The TV shows teaching even younger children English? The popularity in the country with people who are half-Japanese? The goods you can purchase from all over the world? The great popularity of movies, dramas, TV shows, and musical acts from other countries? The French, Italian, German, American, Mexican, Chinese, Korean, and other restaurants to be found in great numbers in any moderately large city? What?
 
Making English the official language is not the same thing as making Spanish illegal. One is simply saying that, if you do business with the government, you have to do it in English, the other is making it illegal to speak a language at all.



And now we return to "If you go back in time far enough..."


Remember Native American children being placed in bording schools where they were forbidden from using their native languages?

Remember the Chinese Exclusion Act?

Hell, remember when some people were only 'counted' as 3/5 of a human being?

Are you saying that wasn't racist?


I'm saying it was, and now we don't do that.
 
Lots of people living in the US think that we walk out of a room simply because they are not Americans?

You think that (and more) never happens to people in America? You'd be wrong.

People walk out of places all the time when I walk in. Strangely enough, I don't think it has anything to do with race.


You might consider showering more often, but it's up to you. My point remains. People get walked out on and much worse at times in the US because of race or ethnicity. It happens. Not all the time, but once is too much. That does not, however, define American culture.
 
The culture is extremely insular.



Ok, how? All the multinational corporations? The thousands and thousands of Japanese managers and engineers working and living abroad? The English-language newspapers and magazines for sale at every major train station? The street maps, road signs, and just about all other public information provided in English? The many, many thousands of people from other countries who live and work in Japan? The popular sports stars and celebrities who are not Japanese? The teaching of English to children from a very early age in all school systems? The TV shows teaching even younger children English? The popularity in the country with people who are half-Japanese? The goods you can purchase from all over the world? The great popularity of movies, dramas, TV shows, and musical acts from other countries? The French, Italian, German, American, Mexican, Chinese, Korean, and other restaurants to be found in great numbers in any moderately large city? What?

Does the fact that during the days of the British Empire lots of Englishmen used to live in foreign countries, and even use wogs as servants, somehow prove that it wasn't based on racism?
 
The culture is extremely insular.



Ok, how? All the multinational corporations? The thousands and thousands of Japanese managers and engineers working and living abroad? The English-language newspapers and magazines for sale at every major train station? The street maps, road signs, and just about all other public information provided in English? The many, many thousands of people from other countries who live and work in Japan? The popular sports stars and celebrities who are not Japanese? The teaching of English to children from a very early age in all school systems? The TV shows teaching even younger children English? The popularity in the country with people who are half-Japanese? The goods you can purchase from all over the world? The great popularity of movies, dramas, TV shows, and musical acts from other countries? The French, Italian, German, American, Mexican, Chinese, Korean, and other restaurants to be found in great numbers in any moderately large city? What?

Does the fact that during the days of the British Empire lots of Englishmen used to live in foreign countries, and even use wogs as servants, somehow prove that it wasn't based on racism?

Does this mean you concede the point and want to change topics to the British Empire now? Or were you just hoping to use some misdirection to avoid what I actually posted?
 
Ok, how? All the multinational corporations? The thousands and thousands of Japanese managers and engineers working and living abroad? The English-language newspapers and magazines for sale at every major train station? The street maps, road signs, and just about all other public information provided in English? The many, many thousands of people from other countries who live and work in Japan? The popular sports stars and celebrities who are not Japanese? The teaching of English to children from a very early age in all school systems? The TV shows teaching even younger children English? The popularity in the country with people who are half-Japanese? The goods you can purchase from all over the world? The great popularity of movies, dramas, TV shows, and musical acts from other countries? The French, Italian, German, American, Mexican, Chinese, Korean, and other restaurants to be found in great numbers in any moderately large city? What?

Does the fact that during the days of the British Empire lots of Englishmen used to live in foreign countries, and even use wogs as servants, somehow prove that it wasn't based on racism?

Does this mean you concede the point and want to change topics to the British Empire now? Or were you just hoping to use some misdirection to avoid what I actually posted?

The culture is insular, the fact that they are forced to deal with a world that isn't does not mean anything unless the culture changes.
 
Does the fact that during the days of the British Empire lots of Englishmen used to live in foreign countries, and even use wogs as servants, somehow prove that it wasn't based on racism?

Does this mean you concede the point and want to change topics to the British Empire now? Or were you just hoping to use some misdirection to avoid what I actually posted?

The culture is insular, the fact that they are forced to deal with a world that isn't does not mean anything unless the culture changes.


Remember this?

Ok, how? All the multinational corporations? The thousands and thousands of Japanese managers and engineers working and living abroad? The English-language newspapers and magazines for sale at every major train station? The street maps, road signs, and just about all other public information provided in English? The many, many thousands of people from other countries who live and work in Japan? The popular sports stars and celebrities who are not Japanese? The teaching of English to children from a very early age in all school systems? The TV shows teaching even younger children English? The popularity in the country with people who are half-Japanese? The goods you can purchase from all over the world? The great popularity of movies, dramas, TV shows, and musical acts from other countries? The French, Italian, German, American, Mexican, Chinese, Korean, and other restaurants to be found in great numbers in any moderately large city? What?

Care to address that/answer the question?
 
I believe the point he was making idiot, is that GUNS ARE OUTLAWED IN THE UK AND STILL THIS SHIT HAPPENS!

Wake the fuck up you moron!

But it doesn't happen as often.

Yeah, we will may still have a mass shooting once every 14 years instead of three or four a year like we have now... But I can't see that as anything but an improvement, eh?

It didn't happen as often before guns were outlawed, Blow Job. The Americans have always been far more violent than the British. The violent streak was bread out of the British long ago because prior to the Victorian age the penalty for almost every offense was hanging. All the people with violence in their genes were killed off.
 
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Actually, pretending you are sane is your real problem.

You do realize that that a 14 year gap between mass shootings, is actually pretty fucking good, right? We can't go a year without a couple of them.I mean you really can't be that stupid, can you?

The U.S. is 5 times the size of the UK, so it's not that great.

Actually, we've had four or five mass shooting incidents THIS YEAR.

The Brits have one every 14 years.

They had one 2 years ago, so who do you think you're kidding?
 
By Sergio Munoz

As major media outlets report on gun violence prevention strategies in the wake of the Newtown tragedy, they have ignored a controversial law that shields the firearms industry from being held accountable.

In 2005, former President George W. Bush signed into law the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act - the "No. 1 legislative priority of the National Rifle Association" - which immunized gun makers and dealers from civil lawsuits for the crimes committed with the products they sell, a significant barrier to a comprehensive gun violence prevention strategy. Despite its recent reporting on proposed efforts to prevent another tragedy like the one in Newtown, major newspapers and evening television news have not explained this significant legal immunity, according to a Media Matters search of Nexis.

Faced with an increasing number of successful lawsuits over reckless business practices that funneled guns into the hands of criminals, the 2005 immunity law was a victory for the NRA, which "lobbied lawmakers intensely" to shield gun makers and dealers from personal injury law. As described by Erwin Chemerinsky, a leading constitutional scholar and the Dean of the University of California-Irvine School of Law, by eliminating this route for victims to hold the gun industry accountable in court, the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act was a complete deviation from basic "principles of products liability":

The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act is also commonly referred to as the "Gun Protection Act." The law dismissed all current claims against gun manufacturers in both federal and state courts and pre-empted future claims. The law could not be clearer in stating its purpose: "To prohibit causes of action against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and importers of firearms or ammunition products, and their trade associations, for the harm caused solely by the criminal or unlawful misuse of firearm products or ammunition products by others when the product functioned as designed and intended." There are some narrow exceptions for which liability is allowed, such as actions against transferors of firearms who knew the firearm would be used in drug trafficking or a violent crime by a party directly harmed by that conduct.

It is outrageous that a product that exists for no purpose other than to kill has an exemption from state tort liability. Allowing tort liability would force gun manufacturers to pay some of the costs imposed by their products, increase the prices for assault weapons and maybe even cause some manufacturers to stop making them.​

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Yep..What's next suing florists because some people are allergic to pollen?
Or suing peanut farmers because some people can die from allergic reactions to a jar of Skippy?
Do you people ever look upon work as a means of income?
 
Why is there no longer expectation of individual responsibility? Individual accountability?

Blame the gun. Blame the car. Blame the ping pong ball. Blame the Jart. Blame the booze. Blame the bar that served the booze. Blame the friend that let the friend drive the car after drinking the booze.

Blame the enablers and the enabling devices. The individual perpetrator is just an innocent bystander.

Look at the way newspaper news items describing traffic crashes..
"Two people killed on interstate as SUV crashes through guard rail"...
Yes, the SUV crashed ITSELF....
 
The Japanese play the same violent videogames we do.

And they had 11 gun murders last year.

Oh, but they don't have guns available to the public, that's the difference.

Unless you accompany that with a demand for stricter immigration laws and a culture of racism I suggest you stop pointing to Japan as an example to emulate.

Why, the two points are completely unrelated..

Lanza, Loughner, Holmes, these were all whiter than white bread white boys who went around shooting people.

They were also insane men who sympathetic liberals wanted to keep on the street.
 
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