The value of slavery?

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I know Jews with a zero IQ who are literally billionaires and Jews who are geniuses and are poor.

This is true of every group.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

How Black Slaves Were Routinely Sold As ‘Specimens’ To Ambitious White Doctors

6 More Experiments on Slaves and Blacks You Just Might Not Know About

Thank you for posting these links, I was previously unaware of most of these instances.

 

[IM2]

Is That Right ??
I Live In A Major Metropolitan Area In The Heartland
Could You Give Me A Lead On How That Is ??
In Your Eyes...
Could You Be Specific
With Examples Of What You Say Is Identical
Oh, No
Our Pay-Checks Don't Grow On Trees Either
We Know When We Are Layed Off
Maybe We Just Buck-It-Up
And Move On To Seek Other Opportunities

Maybe It's Just How You View Things
What Is The First Thing You See In This:

opportunityisnowhere

It's called federal, State and local funding. I've mentioned specific things an I'm not going into more detail with a person who makes comments and doesn't do what I'm being asked now. Whites don't buck up. Whites like you and some others here are cowards who don't want to discuss the truth about how they have done things.

And that's not how I view things.

"And that's not how I view things"
We are well aware of how you view things.

I view things from a reality perspective. We have all seen how you view things from a perspective of all blacks are victims, all whites are bad.

You don't view anything from reality nor do I view anything from all blacks are victims and all whites are bad. W are in the fucking race and racism section talking about slavery. No matter how you try to paint the picture, whites were the bad guys as it pertains to slavery in America.

So were the blacks that sold them. Every past you make talks about all whites being bad. Own up to it, and I’m a racist” the 12steps will be much easier then.

Sorry but things are not that simple. The blacks who were slaves in Africa were prisoners of wars between the tribes. Not because Africans were going around capturing people to enslave. I mean the story is far more complex than you want to even try understanding. Whites used criminals given them help bridge the language and the prisoners were to be taught Christianity instead of being killed for their crimes. Some of them ended up as slaves. Some helped the whites by capturing slaves. Whites created confusion and conflict to increase violence and tribal wars so they could get slaves. So to just say what you guys do, to compare slavery in Africa to chattlel slavery here when African slaves were not property, nor were their descendants bound into slavery even while unborn is disingenuous at best.

Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery

 

[IM2]

/-----/ No. I'm not looking for a straw. I'm looking for a simple answer to a simple question: If Africans didn't sell their neighbors into slavery then why didn't the African Nations do battle against the slave traders? They certainly had them out numbered 10,000 to one.

Have you considered superior firepower?

/——-/ Population of African warriors against a hand full of slave grabbers? Not talking about taking the ships. 1,000 Spears and arrows vs a few muskets. You do the math.

You were shown that what you believe is wrong. Your question was answered.

 

[Coyote]

Yes, as have laws regarding Native Americans. Whether it is enslavement and all it's associated abuses or "genocide" (which is debatable that was an actual government policy) - it's all pretty horrible and neither is better or worse than the other. This isn't a zero sum equation.

It isn’t debatable. The army

Yes, as have laws regarding Native Americans. Whether it is enslavement and all it's associated abuses or "genocide" (which is debatable that was an actual government policy) - it's all pretty horrible and neither is better or worse than the other. This isn't a zero sum equation.

the genicide isn’t debatable. And she se the specific targeting and killing of human beings by a Government is more detestable than the slavery issue.

They are equally detestable - slavery and the subsequent daily degradations of racist law, is just another death. Many slaves were killed and died.

Slaves were not killed as a directive of the Government. There in lies the difference.

Was there a government directive to kill all Indians?

The Indian wars which was directed by Andrew Jackson.

Was the directive to kill all Indians though?

 

[Coyote]

Thread is now reopened after another massive cleaning. For the simple minded, here are the rules:

"Zone 2": Political Forum / Israel and Palestine Forum / Race Relations/Racism Forum / Religion & Ethics Forum / Environment Forum: Baiting and polarizing OP's (Opening Posts), and thread titles risk the thread either being moved or trashed. Keep it relevant, choose wisely. Each post must contain content relevant to the thread subject, in addition to any flame. No trolling. No hit and run flames. No hijacking or derailing threads.

This thread has a topic: Reparations.

The topic is not the members discussing it. Tone down the accusations of "racist" towards each other and discuss the topic. If you can't find another thread to participate in.

 

[Coyote]

Native Americans are the only race that should be given any money by the Government. They are the only race that the Government directly destroyed. Slaves were owned by individuals.

And who created and enforced the laws that made it legal for white individuals to enslave, abuse and violate the human rights of other human beings of African descent (but not white human beings), including the Fugitive Slave Act? That's government created, sanctioned and enforced abuse.

One of the primary concerns after the slaves were freed was compensation to the slave owners for the "loss" of their "property". Hopefully that should tell you something.

It wasn't the US government, that's for sure. Slavery existed for thousands of years before the US government existed, or the colonies for that matter.

The US government codified it into law and was complicit in continuing the practice after much of the civilized world banned it. Laws come from governments.

So what? You apparently missed the point. Everyone everywhere thought slavery was fine. Everyone.

Let's pretend for a moment that in 100 years, human being progress to the point that we accept that drugs we use today are destructive and dangerous.

From that perspective they would assume that our government is evil for allowing drug companies to sell all these drugs, and that we should pay reparations to all the people who have been harmed by the drugs we have today.

But here, now, today..... it's perfectly normal. How can you condemn something that everyone today believes is normal and acceptable? Can you really judge hundreds of millions of people, that are going based on their best information they have today?

Whether you like it or not, hundreds of years ago, no one thought there was anything wrong with slavery. Even the slaves themselves didn't think it was wrong. It was accepted throughout the world.

Now we have a Christian view of human beings, that all people are made by their creator equal. But to say that people 200 years ago, should have the same views we have today, is ridiculous.

Why are you not demanding the Mayans in south America, pay reparations for the millions of children they slaughtered to their 'gods'?

How many other groups throughout the world, would you expect reparations from?

And by the way.... contrary to Holywood films, white people did not go throughout Africa randomly kidnapping people, and making slaves out of them. White people purchased existing slaves, from black slave owners. Should those nations in Africa be forced to pay reparations to American slaves? After all, they codified it into law, just like everyone else.

Again.... slavery was a normal and accepted policy EVERYWHERE. It wasn't just America. Or just whites. Or just anyone. It was everyone.

Honestly, to me, this is the same as when I talk to Christians, and they expect pagans to follow Christian teaching, when they don't even know Christian teaching. I think those Christians are just as crazy.

Dude, you went off on a whole rant half cocked.

First off - I oppose reparations.

But that doesn't change the reality of history and attempting to white wash slavery is kind of disgusting...

American white people purchased slaves from other slave traders usually black or Arab, and then white people sold those slaves on the market to other white people. When the transatlantic trade stopped - slavery continued in the US. White people bred their own slaves. Unlike other forms of slavery, where people were captured in war or conflict - we based slavery on skin color alone. We continued with slavery long after the civilized world abolished it and abolished the Atlantic Slave Trade.

 

[MaryL]

I pay enough in taxes that end up god knows where, Highway taxes for instance. Highways aren't getting better. I think ex slaves owe non blacks for liberating them, perhaps 2 cents a pound. Aw shucks, just call it even Steven and we can call the whole deal off. This was like 150 years ago, so, well, get over it. I have. Since before we were born, even. Why haven't you?

 

[flacaltenn]

What would you estimate the value of slavery in the US to have been?
Specifically, if reparations were to be made for slavery, how much would you estimate the value of lost wages plus interest to be? Please be specific. What pay scale would you propose be used, and what amount of interest?
Who would you propose be paid reparations for slavery in the US?
And, who would you propose pay into the fund to be dispersed to those deemed recipients of said reparations?

Makes a diff between estimating "market value" and "personal suffering". You KNOW the big money in Civil suits isn't the "compensation" -- it's the DAMAGE award. So -- if that slave was your Great Great Grandmother/father -- and you can prove it -- maybe you get a HS scholarship for private school. BUT --- if you take this approach on WHOLE SOCIETY -- the number of qualifying persons who have a CERTIFIED geneological tie to a slave is probably less than 3% of the whole. So all interest in doing this would wane.

For ME -- I'd prefer to see MORE MODERN wrongs corrected. Like those affecting this generation. And have class action suits against boards of education that are FAILING urban black youth RIGHT NOW. And dooming them with this "lower expectations", minimal curriculum, fudge the statistics game playing that passes for urban poor education.

And folks band together and prioritize ENDING SLAVERY in the world tomorrow. THAT would be a legacy.

 

[IM2]

What would you estimate the value of slavery in the US to have been?
Specifically, if reparations were to be made for slavery, how much would you estimate the value of lost wages plus interest to be? Please be specific. What pay scale would you propose be used, and what amount of interest?
Who would you propose be paid reparations for slavery in the US?
And, who would you propose pay into the fund to be dispersed to those deemed recipients of said reparations?

Makes a diff between estimating "market value" and "personal suffering". You KNOW the big money in Civil suits isn't the "compensation" -- it's the DAMAGE award. So -- if that slave was your Great Great Grandmother/father -- and you can prove it -- maybe you get a HS scholarship for private school. BUT --- if you take this approach on WHOLE SOCIETY -- the number of qualifying persons who have a CERTIFIED geneological tie to a slave is probably less than 3% of the whole. So all interest in doing this would wane.

For ME -- I'd prefer to see MORE MODERN wrongs corrected. Like those affecting this generation. And have class action suits against boards of education that are FAILING urban black youth RIGHT NOW. And dooming them with this "lower expectations", minimal curriculum, fudge the statistics game playing that passes for urban poor education.

And folks band together and prioritize ENDING SLAVERY in the world tomorrow. THAT would be a legacy.

Some of us either lack the intellect or refuse to understand how several trillion dollars of lost wages could have built black communities, provided for the creation of black owned industries and everything else which would grow just like white communities did and would be equal to what whites have today. That is what was lost just during slavery alone. This does affect blacks today regardless of who did or didn't descend from slaves.

 

[flacaltenn]

What would you estimate the value of slavery in the US to have been?
Specifically, if reparations were to be made for slavery, how much would you estimate the value of lost wages plus interest to be? Please be specific. What pay scale would you propose be used, and what amount of interest?
Who would you propose be paid reparations for slavery in the US?
And, who would you propose pay into the fund to be dispersed to those deemed recipients of said reparations?

Makes a diff between estimating "market value" and "personal suffering". You KNOW the big money in Civil suits isn't the "compensation" -- it's the DAMAGE award. So -- if that slave was your Great Great Grandmother/father -- and you can prove it -- maybe you get a HS scholarship for private school. BUT --- if you take this approach on WHOLE SOCIETY -- the number of qualifying persons who have a CERTIFIED geneological tie to a slave is probably less than 3% of the whole. So all interest in doing this would wane.

For ME -- I'd prefer to see MORE MODERN wrongs corrected. Like those affecting this generation. And have class action suits against boards of education that are FAILING urban black youth RIGHT NOW. And dooming them with this "lower expectations", minimal curriculum, fudge the statistics game playing that passes for urban poor education.

And folks band together and prioritize ENDING SLAVERY in the world tomorrow. THAT would be a legacy.

Some of us either lack the intellect or refuse to understand how several trillion dollars of lost wages could have built black communities, provided for the creation of black owned industries and everything else which would grow just like white communities did and would be equal to what whites have today. That is what was lost just during slavery alone. This does affect blacks today regardless of who did or didn't descend from slaves.

Do you support the Death Tax? No -- that's NOT a diversion. It's very much ON TOPIC and responsive to your post. Do Venus/Serena Williams or LL Cool J OWE 50% or more their estates to the govt OR should they be able to BUILD WEALTH for their heirs and institutions they support? Maybe -- if you read the handbook on Capitalism, you KNOW HOW wealth is created and distributed and what policies actually INHIBIT the recouping of "lost wages" from blacks getting a rotten start. THEN we wouldn't be talking about such a LARGE claimant class..

I've pointed out to you MANY opportunities for you to SMASH those racist barriers and get wealthy. We had the "no black Greeting Cards is racist" discussion and SHOWED you the Black entrepreneurs who didn't WAIT for reparations and got REAL RICH FIXING a "perceived racist issue" by STARTING a Black Greeting Card business. I think if your group of "all whites are racists" would spend more time ORGANIZING and WORKING on solutions to industries and businesses that DONT design and market to blacks -- you'd be too wealthy and too busy to worry about reparations.

 

[IM2]

What would you estimate the value of slavery in the US to have been?
Specifically, if reparations were to be made for slavery, how much would you estimate the value of lost wages plus interest to be? Please be specific. What pay scale would you propose be used, and what amount of interest?
Who would you propose be paid reparations for slavery in the US?
And, who would you propose pay into the fund to be dispersed to those deemed recipients of said reparations?

Makes a diff between estimating "market value" and "personal suffering". You KNOW the big money in Civil suits isn't the "compensation" -- it's the DAMAGE award. So -- if that slave was your Great Great Grandmother/father -- and you can prove it -- maybe you get a HS scholarship for private school. BUT --- if you take this approach on WHOLE SOCIETY -- the number of qualifying persons who have a CERTIFIED geneological tie to a slave is probably less than 3% of the whole. So all interest in doing this would wane.

For ME -- I'd prefer to see MORE MODERN wrongs corrected. Like those affecting this generation. And have class action suits against boards of education that are FAILING urban black youth RIGHT NOW. And dooming them with this "lower expectations", minimal curriculum, fudge the statistics game playing that passes for urban poor education.

And folks band together and prioritize ENDING SLAVERY in the world tomorrow. THAT would be a legacy.

Some of us either lack the intellect or refuse to understand how several trillion dollars of lost wages could have built black communities, provided for the creation of black owned industries and everything else which would grow just like white communities did and would be equal to what whites have today. That is what was lost just during slavery alone. This does affect blacks today regardless of who did or didn't descend from slaves.

Do you support the Death Tax? No -- that's NOT a diversion. It's very much ON TOPIC and responsive to your post. Do Venus/Serena Williams or LL Cool J OWE 50% or more their estates to the govt OR should they be able to BUILD WEALTH for their heirs and institutions they support? Maybe -- if you read the handbook on Capitalism, you KNOW HOW wealth is created and distributed and what policies actually INHIBIT the recouping of "lost wages" from blacks getting a rotten start. THEN we wouldn't be talking about such a LARGE claimant class..

I've pointed out to you MANY opportunities for you to SMASH those racist barriers and get wealthy. We had the "no black Greeting Cards is racist" discussion and SHOWED you the Black entrepreneurs who didn't WAIT for reparations and got REAL RICH FIXING a "perceived racist issue" by STARTING a Black Greeting Card business. I think if your group of "all whites are racists" would spend more time ORGANIZING and WORKING on solutions to industries and businesses that DONT design and market to blacks -- you'd be too wealthy and too busy to worry about reparations.

You need to understand that you can't show me shit. Because my group doesn't think all whites are racists. I'm retired dipshit, don't need your advice on anything. I've already done what you have suggested. I already know the obstacles for black businesses and what needs to be done. I'm way ahead of you. So when I say what I do, it's because that's the way it is.

 

[TheParser]

I hope that NO (formal) reparation is granted.

It would only lead to one new demand after another.

 

[MizMolly]

Next time someone says, “But Africans sold themselves into slavery!”, send this article to them

EDITOR’S NOTE: The following except from pages 47-50 of Overturning the Culture of Violence, written by Penny Hess, Chairwoman of the African People’s Solidarity Committee and printed by Burning Spear Publications, debunks the cynical and anti-black argument that “Africans enslaved themselves.” This argument points to the presence of Africans who collaborated with the European slave masters and “sold” Africans to them in order to shift the responsibility for the slave trade off the shoulders of the European colonial slavemaster and onto the backs of the colonized and enslaved African.

Today, as the voice of the enslaved African community asserts itself in the world and lifts up the demand for reparations, the blame-shifting “African collaborator” argument can be seen gaining traction in universities and bourgeois historical publications, not as an historical argument but as a political defense against the legitimacy of the reparations demand. As an organization of white people working under the leadership of the African People’s Socialist Party to organize white people in solidarity with the African struggle for liberation and reparations, we in the Uhuru Solidarity Movement find it timely to publish this excerpt here:

HUMAN BONDAGE: Page 47-50, Overturning the Culture of Violence

The terrible impact that slavery has had on the continent of Africa cannot be calculated: the destruction of magnificent civilizations, the break-up of family and kinship circles, the massive depopulation, forced impoverishment, famine and starvation, the ravishing of an environment which had been so conducive to human civilization for millennia. From open, educated, prosperous and democratic societies, African people now lived in sheer terror, never knowing when their village or town would be raided for human loot by these white invaders.

Some North American people cynically place the blame for the enslavement of African people on the shoulders of African collaborators who participated in the kidnapping of their own people. Impacted by the social destruction wreaked by invading Europeans, a tiny minority of the conquered people did find their own survival by participating in this treachery.

The setting up of collaborators among the colonized population has been a successful tool of domination in every instance of European colonialism around the world. Africa is no exception. Europeans attack societies in Africa, Asia, or the Americas, destroying their traditional economies and long-standing social relationships. A unilateral colonial economy, which starves the people and creates the dependency on the colonial power, is militarily enforced.

The European invader gets richer and richer through his bloodsucking relationship, and offers resources, guns and special status to a minority sector of the oppressed population. The selected “elite” or the colony can themselves become enslaved or carry out the will of white power. If they take any stand independent of the colonizer as have, say, Panama’s Noriega or Iraq’s Saddam Hussein in today’s world, white power spares them none of its wrath.

This plan has worked well over the centuries. A few people in every colony have participated in the devious imperialist schemes of slavery, genocide, torture and exploitation of their own people, a collaboration which benefits no one more than the European or North American “mother” country.

The statement that “Africans enslaved their own people” separates out African people from other colonial subjects, all of whom have had their share of betrayal among their ranks. It is a statement of imperialism’s historic need to mobilize public opinion against African people.

Like the general white attitude toward the government-imposed drugs and dependent drug economy in today’s African communities, this statement lets the parasitic colonial economic system off the hook. It is an anti-black expression of unity with the oppression of African people, saying, “They did it to themselves.” Meanwhile all white people everywhere still benefit from the parasitic economic system which has as its foundation the enslavement and continued exploitation of African people.

Most Africans resisted enslavement with all of their energy. Rebellions on slave ships were common. According to one source, “Many deaths on slave journeys across the Atlantic derived from violence, brawls, and above all, rebellions. There was probably at least one insurrection every eight to ten journeys.”

For example, Africans successfully rebelled in 1532 aboard the Portueguese slave ship the Misericordia. The 109 Africans on board “rose and murdered all the crew except for the pilot and two seaman. Those survivors escaped in a longboat. But the Misericordia was never heard of again.”

Slave ship owners often three Africans off the ships just to collect the insurance money. One famous case was that of a ship owned by William Gregson and George Case (both former mayors of Liverpool, England). The captain threw 133 Africans into the sea because if Africans were to die naturally, the owners would lose money, but if the African people were “thrown alive into the sea,” supposedly for the safety of the crew, “it would be the loss of the underwriters.”

So many African people died en route that it has been said that sharks followed slave ships all the way from Africa to the Americas.

Africans who survived the notoriously brutal middle passage, as the Atlantic crossing was known, reached the Americas barely alive. If they were too ill, they were left to die on the shore. They were sold like animals on public auction blocks, naked or in rags, weakened and emaciated, having survived the months below deck with disease and malnutrition, not to mention the emotional ravage sof such an experience. Many Africans committed suicide to avoid enslavement, a practice otherwise unknown in African culture.

White buyers came to the market for slaves, “feeling the Africans’ limbs and bodies much as butchers handled calves. The slaves were often asked, as they had been told to do before leaving Africa, to show their tongues and teeth, or to stretch their arms.”

In the Americas, Africans were “broken in” by submitting them to inhuman terror in an attempt to crush out any resistance. The “breaking” process was psychological as well as physical, and included being forced to learn a version of a European language and to take a European name, something many Africans militantly resisted.

Under the domination of their white slave masters, African people of all ages were branded, women on the breasts. Africans were whipped until they were deeply scarred, and their ears or ear lobes were cut off. People were slashed in the face, and their hands and feet were cut off to prevent them from running away. Men were castrated; women were raped. Women’s babies were cut out of their bellies for “punishment” and any man, woman or child could be forced to wear iron collars on their necks for life.

Under such brutal conditions, normal human relationships between men and woman or parents and children were interrupted and nearly impossible. Mothers were forced to work the full nine months of pregnancy, often giving birth in the field. They were then forced to abandon their children, as they had to keep on working or nurse the children of the slave master.

Next time someone says, "But Africans sold themselves into slavery!", send this article to them

Tl/dr

If you hate it here so much, leave. Republicans fought to set you free, make the most of it

He always quotes obscure articles authored by racist like him that want to rewrite history. The fact of the matter is Natiins in Africa have been selling slaves for thousands of years. But in this guys world he thinks the pyramids were built by union masons.

That might be where you think the pyramids were built but the argument you present has nothing to do with what happened in America. This is no obscure article and the fact is things just didn't happen as you white racists want to claim.

So, YOU define who's a victim according to your arbitrary constraints? And you feel free to slander people in such a hateful manor, as well. Aren't you a piece of work.

He decides that he is the only one who knows everything there is to know about race, about racism, about whites, about what whites do not know (which is everything)

 

[MizMolly]

Some whites are real funny about declaring what's successful when the success their communities had have
is dependent upon government funding from every level.

Is That Right ??
I Live In A Major Metropolitan Area In The Heartland
Could You Give Me A Lead On How That Is ??
In Your Eyes...

Whites are real good at understanding why their communities have problems but when the same things happen in black communities then the problem turns to blacks/black culture

Could You Be Specific
With Examples Of What You Say Is Identical

and things like factory closings and economic downturns are ignored.

Oh, No
Our Pay-Checks Don't Grow On Trees Either
We Know When We Are Layed Off

This along with the ability for whites to just "forget" makes these discussions difficult.

Maybe We Just Buck-It-Up
And Move On To Seek Other Opportunities

Maybe It's Just How You View Things
What Is The First Thing You See In This:

opportunityisnowhere

It's called federal, State and local funding. I've mentioned specific things an I'm not going into more detail with a person who makes comments and doesn't do what I'm being asked now. Whites don't buck up. Whites like you and some others here are cowards who don't want to discuss the truth about how they have done things.

And that's not how I view things.

"And that's not how I view things"
We are well aware of how you view things.

I view things from a reality perspective. We have all seen how you view things from a perspective of all blacks are victims, all whites are bad.

You don't view anything from reality nor do I view anything from all blacks are victims and all whites are bad. W are in the fucking race and racism section talking about slavery. No matter how you try to paint the picture, whites were the bad guys as it pertains to slavery in America.

Yes they were, so were the blacks who sold them into slavery and the blacks who owned slaves

 

[MizMolly]

It's called federal, State and local funding. I've mentioned specific things an I'm not going into more detail with a person who makes comments and doesn't do what I'm being asked now. Whites don't buck up. Whites like you and some others here are cowards who don't want to discuss the truth about how they have done things.

And that's not how I view things.

Racist prick. You are a miserable excuse for a human . It is you who won’t admit what the real issues are. You think you are superior. You are the most ignorant human I have ever come across. You lie about who you are, what you’ve done and what each race is.

You are the racist. I don't think I am superior to anyone. But your little tantrum here shows your insecurity. I know the real issues and I know whites like you have a problem facing them. I say this because I know far more whites who don't have your problem.

Kiddo, lay off the unprovable pejorative nouns, please? The "r" word. 'Cause, I can call you a tax evader or Brony. Unprovable slanders, and it just makes you sound like a small minded control freak.

They are are probable. Try reading.

I don't care about your petty squabbles, I am not paying one thin penny as reparations for something I didn't do to people I never met, let alone an intellectual abstraction that borders on a greedy con job. So, carry on , kiddo.

He makes what appears to be threats if whites refuse to pay reparations.

 

[Coyote]

Racist prick. You are a miserable excuse for a human . It is you who won’t admit what the real issues are. You think you are superior. You are the most ignorant human I have ever come across. You lie about who you are, what you’ve done and what each race is.

You are the racist. I don't think I am superior to anyone. But your little tantrum here shows your insecurity. I know the real issues and I know whites like you have a problem facing them. I say this because I know far more whites who don't have your problem.

Kiddo, lay off the unprovable pejorative nouns, please? The "r" word. 'Cause, I can call you a tax evader or Brony. Unprovable slanders, and it just makes you sound like a small minded control freak.

They are are probable. Try reading.

I don't care about your petty squabbles, I am not paying one thin penny as reparations for something I didn't do to people I never met, let alone an intellectual abstraction that borders on a greedy con job. So, carry on , kiddo.

He makes what appears to be threats if whites refuse to pay reparations.

“He” is not the topic. Reparations are.

 

[Indeependent]

You are the racist. I don't think I am superior to anyone. But your little tantrum here shows your insecurity. I know the real issues and I know whites like you have a problem facing them. I say this because I know far more whites who don't have your problem.

Kiddo, lay off the unprovable pejorative nouns, please? The "r" word. 'Cause, I can call you a tax evader or Brony. Unprovable slanders, and it just makes you sound like a small minded control freak.

They are are probable. Try reading.

I don't care about your petty squabbles, I am not paying one thin penny as reparations for something I didn't do to people I never met, let alone an intellectual abstraction that borders on a greedy con job. So, carry on , kiddo.

He makes what appears to be threats if whites refuse to pay reparations.

“He” is not the topic. Reparations are.

Then why does he need to infer threats?

 

[MizMolly]

You are the racist. I don't think I am superior to anyone. But your little tantrum here shows your insecurity. I know the real issues and I know whites like you have a problem facing them. I say this because I know far more whites who don't have your problem.

Kiddo, lay off the unprovable pejorative nouns, please? The "r" word. 'Cause, I can call you a tax evader or Brony. Unprovable slanders, and it just makes you sound like a small minded control freak.

They are are probable. Try reading.

I don't care about your petty squabbles, I am not paying one thin penny as reparations for something I didn't do to people I never met, let alone an intellectual abstraction that borders on a greedy con job. So, carry on , kiddo.

He makes what appears to be threats if whites refuse to pay reparations.

“He” is not the topic. Reparations are.

My post was on topic

 

[IM2]

Kiddo, lay off the unprovable pejorative nouns, please? The "r" word. 'Cause, I can call you a tax evader or Brony. Unprovable slanders, and it just makes you sound like a small minded control freak.

They are are probable. Try reading.

I don't care about your petty squabbles, I am not paying one thin penny as reparations for something I didn't do to people I never met, let alone an intellectual abstraction that borders on a greedy con job. So, carry on , kiddo.

He makes what appears to be threats if whites refuse to pay reparations.

“He” is not the topic. Reparations are.

Then why does he need to infer threats?

"He" is not making threats. You don't get to make up everything in life. I'm saying that what was done is immoral and that there is a spiritual cost for immorality. The penalty for the refusal to pay slaves after their service what is owed is mentioned in the bible and the punishment for that was a destroyed nation. So I am saying that if America does not pay what we are owed, the master of humanity, or our creator, will level a punishment on this nation. God isn't concerned about who didn't do what today, he has punished generations for sins of prior generations many times. God does not have a statute of limitations for sin.

So all this blowhard talk about what you won't pay, what you don't believe should be pad or any of the excuses made here really don't concern me. "Vengeance is mine, saith the lord." I don't have to threaten anyone.