The War on Journalism

[eagle1462010]

If only y'all had been as shook up about the dead AMERICANS in Benghazi.

Totally agree!

Or when Seth Rich was murdered in the heart of Washington D.C.


Talk about fake journalism!

Picking and choosing your crimes to suit your political agenda is NOT journalism.

Reporting on fake crimes is not good journalism.

Many believe Seth was murdered.........and for possible knowledge of dirty laundry for some folks.

 

[skye]

If only y'all had been as shook up about the dead AMERICANS in Benghazi.

Totally agree!

Or when Seth Rich was murdered in the heart of Washington D.C.


Talk about fake journalism!

Picking and choosing your crimes to suit your political agenda is NOT journalism.

Reporting on fake crimes is not good journalism.

Many believe Seth was murdered.........and for possible knowledge of dirty laundry for some folks.

He WAS murdered.

 

[eagle1462010]

If only y'all had been as shook up about the dead AMERICANS in Benghazi.

Totally agree!

Or when Seth Rich was murdered in the heart of Washington D.C.


Talk about fake journalism!

Picking and choosing your crimes to suit your political agenda is NOT journalism.

Reporting on fake crimes is not good journalism.

Many believe Seth was murdered.........and for possible knowledge of dirty laundry for some folks.

He WAS murdered.

He had dirt on the DNC so they will discount that.

 

[Coyote]

Belief is one thing, facts are another. Either way I don’t see how it has anything to do with the attacks on journalistic freedom.

 

[Aba Incieni]

Belief is one thing, facts are another. Either way I don’t see how it has anything to do with the attacks on journalistic freedom.

There is no such thing as journalistic freedom in KSA or Turkey.

 

[bodecea]

If only y'all had been as shook up about the dead AMERICANS in Benghazi.

Hey...a great idea...let's do the same thing...8 Congressional investigations on this. Sounds good.

What difference does it make?

to tiny trumpanzees, absolutely nothing.

 

[skye]

Belief is one thing, facts are another. Either way I don’t see how it has anything to do with the attacks on journalistic freedom.

It has everything to do!

Journalistic freedom means that everything has to be known!

Left and Right!

Sweeping under the carpet topics that don't agree with one's political agenda is wrong and IS NOT journalistic freedom.

 

[Aba Incieni]

If only y'all had been as shook up about the dead AMERICANS in Benghazi.

Hey...a great idea...let's do the same thing...8 Congressional investigations on this. Sounds good.

What difference does it make?

to tiny trumpanzees, absolutely nothing.

Bloated Obaboons don't care either.

 

[eagle1462010]

Belief is one thing, facts are another. Either way I don’t see how it has anything to do with the attacks on journalistic freedom.

Both are dead...........but only one was a Journalist............

 

[Coyote]

Belief is one thing, facts are another. Either way I don’t see how it has anything to do with the attacks on journalistic freedom.

It has everything to do!

Journalistic freedom means that everything has to be known!

Left and Right!

Sweeping under the carpet topics that don't agree with one's political agenda is wrong and IS NOT journalistic freedom.

True. And that is why alternate theories on Seth Rich have been reported on by certain media outlets. Journalistic freedom.

 

[eagle1462010]

Belief is one thing, facts are another. Either way I don’t see how it has anything to do with the attacks on journalistic freedom.

There is no such thing as journalistic freedom in KSA or Turkey.

In Theologies............Freedom is do as we say or we will kill you.............

Kurds understand that well.............Turkey gets their rocks off killing them and consider them second hand citizens.........

SA is another brutal gov't who rule with a iron fist.........pretty normal for the middle east.

 

[pismoe]

Trump has had several lame comments on this subject to be sure. On the other hand, ruining the economy over one person seems a pretty high price to pay. I find most journalists, are not. They are socialists with a mission. It would be great if we had journalists.

I think that the claim it would ruin the economy is a straw man. The Saudi’s by 99.9% of their weapons systems from us. These are complex proprietary systems. Russian systems don’t talk to Chinese systems don’t talk to American systems etc. The Saudi’s have invested billions into our systems, they are not going to start from scratch with another supplier.

The other question is...are you proposing we give Carter Blanche to them? They can do whatever they want in the territory of another ally, Turkey? When do we take a stand?

Does journalistic freedom mean anything to you? I don’t like all journalists and reporting, but where do you draw the line? Authoritarianism vs a free media. And a free media is the only check on governments.

I think it is up to Turkey to take care of problems in Turkey. The Saudis are under no pressure to buy anything this year or next. That is billions lost. Also there is this thing called oil....

So we don’t stand for anything?

---------------------------- TRUMP will decide what America stands for Coyote .

Fascinating......it's as if we no longer had any national pride....or a Constitution.

----------------------------------- National Pride got a big bump UP with the TRUMP . Constitution , i don't understand your point with Cryptic mention of Constitution Bode .

 

[Aba Incieni]

Belief is one thing, facts are another. Either way I don’t see how it has anything to do with the attacks on journalistic freedom.

There is no such thing as journalistic freedom in KSA or Turkey.

In Theologies............Freedom is do as we say or we will kill you.............

Kurds understand that well.............Turkey gets their rocks off killing them and consider them second hand citizens.........

SA is another brutal gov't who rule with a iron fist.........pretty normal for the middle east.

Oh, they're free to write what they will.

But if they do they'll be chopped up and boxed into tiny pieces.

 

[MisterBeale]

Hatred of Journalism threatens democracies.

RSF Index 2018: Hatred of journalism threatens democracies

The climate of hatred is steadily more visible in the Index, which evaluates the level of press freedom in 180 countries each year. Hostility towards the media from political leaders is no longer limited to authoritarian countries such as Turkey (down two at 157th) and Egypt (161st), where “media-phobia” is now so pronounced that journalists are routinely accused of terrorism and all those who don’t offer loyalty are arbitrarily imprisoned.

More and more democratically-elected leaders no longer see the media as part of democracy’s essential underpinning, but as an adversary to which they openly display their aversion. The United States, the country of the First Amendment, has fallen again in the Index under Donald Trump, this time two places to 45th. A media-bashing enthusiast, Trump has referred to reporters “enemies of the people,” the term once used by Joseph Stalin.

The line separating verbal violence from physical violence is dissolving. In the Philippines (down six at 133rd), President Rodrigo Duterte not only constantly insults reporters but has also warned them that they “are not exempted from assassination.” In India (down two at 138th), hate speech targeting journalists is shared and amplified on social networks, often by troll armies in Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s pay. In each of these countries, at least four journalists were gunned down in cold blood in the space of a year.


Verbal violence from politicians against the media is also on the rise in Europe, although it is the region that respects press freedom most. In the Czech Republic (down 11 at 34th), President Milos Zeman turned up at a press conference with a fake Kalashnikov inscribed with the words “for journalists.” In Slovakia, (down 10 at 27th), then Prime Minister Robert Fico called journalists “filthy anti-Slovak prostitutes” and “idiotic hyenas.” A Slovak reporter, Ján Kuciak, was shot dead in his home in February 2018, just four months after another European journalist, Daphne Caruana Galizia, was killed by a targeted car-bombing in Malta (down 18 at 65th).

The unleashing of hatred towards journalists is one of the worst threats to democracies,” RSF secretary-general Christophe Deloire said. “Political leaders who fuel loathing for reporters bear heavy responsibility because they undermine the concept of public debate based on facts instead of propaganda. To dispute the legitimacy of journalism today is to play with extremely dangerous political fire.”

Journalists supporting the attacks on political leaders isn't exactly helping democracy either.

Supporting or reporting?

As if, in your arrogance, you believe you would ever really know the difference. Intel agencies own the corporate media.




"Cui bono?

Those who had the most to gain from Khashoggi’s death include the following parties:

• Khashoggi was a self-avowed champion of the Palestinian cause. He strongly reiterated his deep commitment recently; hence, he would be considered an arch-enemy of Israel.

• Khashoggi was writing exposés on KSA and especially about the naked tyranny of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS); hence, he became a feared opponent of the regime in Riyadh.

• Khashoggi was a deep intel insider with direct ties to the CIA (a known contractor), the MOSSAD, MI6 and the Saudi GID (General Intelligence Directorate). As such, he was privy to all the state secrets and was increasingly perceived as a loose cannon by the International Intelligence Community. His articles published in the WashPo were becoming more revealing by the month.

• Khashoggi was closely associated with “Prince Turki who was the director of the Mukhabarat, the Saudi state intelligence apparatus”. It’s quite likely that whatever Prince Turki knew about the false flag terrorist attacks of 9/11 where it concerned the direct involvement of Saudi Arabia, so did Khashoggi. TPTB could simply no longer trust him with that highly radioactive 9/11 information.

Ten days before the 9/11 terror attacks on New York City, in which some 3,000 Americans died, Prince Turki retired from his post as head of Saudi intelligence. It was an abrupt departure, well before his tenure was due to expire.
(Source: Did Saudis, CIA Fear Khashoggi 9/11 Bombshell?)

• Khashoggi was becoming more and more unpredictable after the summary arrest and lengthy detentions of so many Saudi Arabian princes, generals and other VIPs by the Crown Prince. He was known as the one progressive journalist and covert intelligence operative who could be counted on to plead their case in the court of public opinion, which he did with great stealth and strategy.

• Khashoggi experienced the extreme rightward shift into Wahhabism that was being advocated by MBS under the propaganda cloak of liberalizing Saudi Arabia’s barbaric image. He knew well that MBS said one thing, but then acted in the opposite manner. The savage war on Yemen, the oppressive siege of Qatar, the unparalleled arrest of the Saudi heavyweights, the uptick in beheadings and the crackdown on all protest movements, especially female protesters, moved Khashoggi to criticize the Crown Prince from a very high MSM platform that has never been done before by a longtime KSA insider.

• Khashoggi was no friend of Israel and saw that the MBS slyly maneuvered the KSA into an intimately close partnership with the apartheid state of Israel (and against the Palestinians). He was all too aware that deals had been made at the highest levels in Riyadh and Tel Aviv to permit the advancement of the Great Israel project to the great disadvantage of Muslims throughout the Levant and beyond. This profound betrayal alone by MBS pushed Khashoggi over the edge and caused him to cross fault lines never crossed before by a high-ranking Saudi whistleblower."
Khashoggi Assassination Plot Solved

 

[MisterBeale]

Belief is one thing, facts are another. Either way I don’t see how it has anything to do with the attacks on journalistic freedom.

There is no such thing as journalistic freedom in KSA or Turkey.

In Theologies............Freedom is do as we say or we will kill you.............

Kurds understand that well.............Turkey gets their rocks off killing them and consider them second hand citizens.........

SA is another brutal gov't who rule with a iron fist.........pretty normal for the middle east.

Oh, they're free to write what they will.

But if they do they'll be chopped up and boxed into tiny pieces.

According to the Patriot Act, on the say so of the folks in charge here? It's the same here.

We only have the illusion that things are different.

Just b/c we don't hear about it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Black activist jailed for his Facebook posts speaks out about secret FBI surveillance

 

[Tehon]

 

[Tehon]

Ending the war on journalism begins at home.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The abduction and likely death of Kashoggi. A surprisingly sycophantic attitude from an American President known for cosying to autocrats. It must be “rogue assassins”...or something. Or something.

To abduct a person from a consulate on another nation’s territory...against that nation’s laws, represents a new and much more dangerous assault on journalistic freedom. In fact...I think it is unheard of. And it puts the US in a tricky position. Saudi Arabia is our ally. But a free media and the rights of journalists to report, and to hold their governments responsible has long been an underpinning of American Democracy. We have censored allies before for bad behavior...withheld sales for example.

We are witnessing a demise journalistic freedomof around the world journalists are being threatened, killed and jailed for trying to do their jobs. They depend on bigger more powerful countries to look out for their rights should authoritarian states come down on them.

If we kow tow to the Saudi’s over this, what does that tell other dictators and what does it say to our values?

Particularly in the United States where freedom of the press is recognized as a fundamental right.

 

[Tehon]

The whole "War on Journalism" is a farce. The Saudis had a beef with this particular writer, hardly an all out assault on all journalists.

15 Saudi Reporters Arrested In Past Year: Report

Wow Saudi Arabia has only 15 journalists, who knew?

So it's all or nothing?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Hatred of Journalism threatens democracies.

RSF Index 2018: Hatred of journalism threatens democracies

The climate of hatred is steadily more visible in the Index, which evaluates the level of press freedom in 180 countries each year. Hostility towards the media from political leaders is no longer limited to authoritarian countries such as Turkey (down two at 157th) and Egypt (161st), where “media-phobia” is now so pronounced that journalists are routinely accused of terrorism and all those who don’t offer loyalty are arbitrarily imprisoned.

More and more democratically-elected leaders no longer see the media as part of democracy’s essential underpinning, but as an adversary to which they openly display their aversion. The United States, the country of the First Amendment, has fallen again in the Index under Donald Trump, this time two places to 45th. A media-bashing enthusiast, Trump has referred to reporters “enemies of the people,” the term once used by Joseph Stalin.

The line separating verbal violence from physical violence is dissolving. In the Philippines (down six at 133rd), President Rodrigo Duterte not only constantly insults reporters but has also warned them that they “are not exempted from assassination.” In India (down two at 138th), hate speech targeting journalists is shared and amplified on social networks, often by troll armies in Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s pay. In each of these countries, at least four journalists were gunned down in cold blood in the space of a year.


Verbal violence from politicians against the media is also on the rise in Europe, although it is the region that respects press freedom most. In the Czech Republic (down 11 at 34th), President Milos Zeman turned up at a press conference with a fake Kalashnikov inscribed with the words “for journalists.” In Slovakia, (down 10 at 27th), then Prime Minister Robert Fico called journalists “filthy anti-Slovak prostitutes” and “idiotic hyenas.” A Slovak reporter, Ján Kuciak, was shot dead in his home in February 2018, just four months after another European journalist, Daphne Caruana Galizia, was killed by a targeted car-bombing in Malta (down 18 at 65th).

The unleashing of hatred towards journalists is one of the worst threats to democracies,” RSF secretary-general Christophe Deloire said. “Political leaders who fuel loathing for reporters bear heavy responsibility because they undermine the concept of public debate based on facts instead of propaganda. To dispute the legitimacy of journalism today is to play with extremely dangerous political fire.”

. When journalists push lies, half-truths, withhold truth and try to overthrow governments, perhaps they should fear for their lives until they start reporting responsibly. At minimum, they don't deserve FOTP protections anymore. Hear that CNN, MSNBC, SNL, Daily Show, etc.?