The WEIRD political hypocrisy of this board.

[Richard-H]

Under Obama everyone on the right loved Bush and the left hated him. Now Bush is hated by the right and admired by the left.
When McCain/Romney ran against Obama they were supported by the right and despised by the left. Now those roles too have reversed.

I think it is a flawed personal trait when you don't have the courage to stick to your so called principles regardless of someone elses health condition. It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

No liberals thought that the right wing in the U.S. would turn as extreme as it has. The idea of a Trump presidency existed only in a comedy show named 'The Simpsons'. It is an utter absurdity.

The left hasn't changed much, true Republicans like the Bushs, McCain and Romney seem a whole lot more reasonable than the wack job that's our current President.

The fact that all the Trumpbots now despise the Bushs, McCain and Romney shows how far off the deep end they've gone. There is something seriously wrong with these people!

The left hasn't changed much, huh?


Both parties have changed....much. Good grief!

Nope, the 'left' is still mostly middle-of-the -road people who only lean a bit to the left. There has always been a minority of socialists and semi-socialists, but the only real difference is that they are no longer persecuted for speaking their mind.

Any change on the left is miniscule as compared to what's going on on the right. Holy Shit - Ronald Reagan would be considered a RINO nowadays!

Oh baloney, both sides have their extremes but the left is rapidly drifting to "democratic socialism".

Considering Medicare, Social Security and government assistance programs have been around for many, many years, it's apparent that therer have been democratic-socialist running this country for quite a long time.

It's only recently - due to the success of democratic-socialism throughout the world - that they've been open about their views.

 

[bendog]

Under Obama everyone on the right loved Bush and the left hated him. Now Bush is hated by the right and admired by the left.
When McCain/Romney ran against Obama they were supported by the right and despised by the left. Now those roles too have reversed.

I think it is a flawed personal trait when you don't have the courage to stick to your so called principles regardless of someone elses health condition. It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

No liberals thought that the right wing in the U.S. would turn as extreme as it has. The idea of a Trump presidency existed only in a comedy show named 'The Simpsons'. It is an utter absurdity.

The left hasn't changed much, true Republicans like the Bushs, McCain and Romney seem a whole lot more reasonable than the wack job that's our current President.

The fact that all the Trumpbots now despise the Bushs, McCain and Romney shows how far off the deep end they've gone. There is something seriously wrong with these people!

The wild card that Trump has brought into the arena are the people who are angry and bitter at our government and politicians from both parties. Trump is a big messy Fuck You to all those people and his base loves it. It actually makes sense if you think about it. The unfortunate part is it seems these people care more about the “Fuck You” than promoting a healthy and productive state of affairs.

I agree somewhat, except for the fact that the vast majority of Trump supporters have been doing very well under the political system that they hate so much.

The U.S has an extremely high standard of living and is the most powerful nation economically, culturally, militarily etc...that there has ever been. They'v enjoyed a standard of living that people throughout the world and throughout history could only dream about.

It seems that the real problem is millions of very well off spoiled brats who have nothing better to do than bitch about imaginary boogey men in the government.

While Trump offers no real solutions to it, there is growing income inequality. Affirmative action in college admissions is more a bogeyman than the actual numbers affected. But race preferences are offensive imo. But then the gop took away tax protection of college endowments. And that directly cuts tuition aid. And admitting non-citizen students who pay Big Time tuition also allows colleges to offer aid to citizens. As usual what the Alt-r, "anti-deep state" champions is more about overblown grievance and political agenda giving people no actual benefit.

 

[Richard-H]

You clearly didn't listen to the video, or my argument. I pointed out that the Constitution holds no power over the government, nor does it give the government any legitimacy if it did.

You also completely ignored that the electoral college exists, they're never under any obligation to listen to the people, they can easily just decide on any other choice. Even if they are bound by your decision, here are the chances of your vote being decisive by state:

Even ignoring all of the aforementioned, you completely neglected to explain what gives the government legitimacy, and how anyone consented to being ruled by these robbers, murderers, and kidnappers. Furthermore, there's evidence that presidents are promoted from within the government, regardless of anything claimed to be the political process: Five Star Trust Origins - FBI Redacted Report

Even ignoring all of the above, how do we know how many votes were placed on which thing? the government counts the votes they can fudge the numbers as much as they like.

I don’t watch RW propaganda videos

What gives our government legitimacy is something We the People call the Constitution
It created a more perfect union

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

She's probably near 50 years younger than you and making you look like a chump.

Cease trying to be condescending ya old ass

In spite of her flowery rhetoric she still comes off as a spoiled rich kid

Only spoiled rich kids are stupid enough to be anarchists!

 

[rightwinger]

I don’t watch RW propaganda videos

What gives our government legitimacy is something We the People call the Constitution
It created a more perfect union

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

She's probably near 50 years younger than you and making you look like a chump.

Cease trying to be condescending ya old ass

In spite of her flowery rhetoric she still comes off as a spoiled rich kid

Only spoiled rich kids are stupid enough to be anarchists!

I can understand a kid who grew up in poverty and neglect being tempted by anarchy

But the spoiled rich kid playing keyboard commando condemning the society that their parents have done so well in....just comes off as phony

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Under Obama everyone on the right loved Bush and the left hated him. Now Bush is hated by the right and admired by the left.
When McCain/Romney ran against Obama they were supported by the right and despised by the left. Now those roles too have reversed.

I think it is a flawed personal trait when you don't have the courage to stick to your so called principles regardless of someone elses health condition. It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

No liberals thought that the right wing in the U.S. would turn as extreme as it has. The idea of a Trump presidency existed only in a comedy show named 'The Simpsons'. It is an utter absurdity.

The left hasn't changed much, true Republicans like the Bushs, McCain and Romney seem a whole lot more reasonable than the wack job that's our current President.

The fact that all the Trumpbots now despise the Bushs, McCain and Romney shows how far off the deep end they've gone. There is something seriously wrong with these people!

The left hasn't changed much, huh?


Both parties have changed....much. Good grief!

Nope, the 'left' is still mostly middle-of-the -road people who only lean a bit to the left. There has always been a minority of socialists and semi-socialists, but the only real difference is that they are no longer persecuted for speaking their mind.

Any change on the left is miniscule as compared to what's going on on the right. Holy Shit - Ronald Reagan would be considered a RINO nowadays!

Oh baloney, both sides have their extremes but the left is rapidly drifting to "democratic socialism".

Considering Medicare, Social Security and government assistance programs have been around for many, many years, it's apparent that therer have been democratic-socialist running this country for quite a long time.

It's only recently - due to the success of democratic-socialism throughout the world - that they've been open about their views.

Except in time you loons would drop the democratic part....we see you

 

[rightwinger]

No liberals thought that the right wing in the U.S. would turn as extreme as it has. The idea of a Trump presidency existed only in a comedy show named 'The Simpsons'. It is an utter absurdity.

The left hasn't changed much, true Republicans like the Bushs, McCain and Romney seem a whole lot more reasonable than the wack job that's our current President.

The fact that all the Trumpbots now despise the Bushs, McCain and Romney shows how far off the deep end they've gone. There is something seriously wrong with these people!

The left hasn't changed much, huh?


Both parties have changed....much. Good grief!

Nope, the 'left' is still mostly middle-of-the -road people who only lean a bit to the left. There has always been a minority of socialists and semi-socialists, but the only real difference is that they are no longer persecuted for speaking their mind.

Any change on the left is miniscule as compared to what's going on on the right. Holy Shit - Ronald Reagan would be considered a RINO nowadays!

Oh baloney, both sides have their extremes but the left is rapidly drifting to "democratic socialism".

Considering Medicare, Social Security and government assistance programs have been around for many, many years, it's apparent that therer have been democratic-socialist running this country for quite a long time.

It's only recently - due to the success of democratic-socialism throughout the world - that they've been open about their views.

Except in time you loons would drop the democratic part....we see you

Democratic is the key

You vote for what social programs you want

 

[Natural Citizen]

It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

It's mostly political football, blue helmets vs red helmets kind of deal. That's programming. Not principle. I think more ignorance than hypocrisy.Most people are cdlueless, face it, it's true.

I agree with what you're saying, though. Those who are capable of critical thought, to the extent that they are able to base them on something by themselves, should stick to their principles.

 

[ErikViking]

Under Obama everyone on the right loved Bush and the left hated him. Now Bush is hated by the right and admired by the left.
When McCain/Romney ran against Obama they were supported by the right and despised by the left. Now those roles too have reversed.

I think it is a flawed personal trait when you don't have the courage to stick to your so called principles regardless of someone elses health condition. It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

It’s not weird at all. For quite a while the message has been subordinated the sender. It matters no more what is said. Only by whom it’s said.
This is a grave problem and it hollows out sound political debate as core values shifts with the speaker, not the word.

 

[g5000]

Bush 41 was fine then and now in my book. I changed my mind on McCain when he and Fiengold introduced CFR, that was it for me, McCain was nothing but a career politician that made it almost impossible for anyone but the incumbent to win, his stupid bill helped launched the Citizens United lawsuit. Just a bad politician. Romney was okay, Trump, I have never liked as a person, I do agree with some of his policies, his spending and tax cuts are very concerning.

Clinton would be the guy to hang with if you wanted a lot of fun. Bush 43 would be the guy to hang out with, have a beer and watch a baseball game. Obama would be the guy to hang out with if you wanted to learn liberal views. Trump, if you wanted to learn to make money, Of the group Bush 43 would be the only guy I'd believe when they told me anything.

The problem is that Bush 43 doesn't know anything.

Bush 43 was the one who finally woke me up to the fact the GOP was dead. It's because of Bush 43 I stopped voting on the federal level after 2004.

It's been downhill for the party ever since. Every time the fake conservatives hit a new low, I would tell myself, "This has to be the bottom."

And then they would do something even more craven. They would sacrifice yet one more conservative principle on the altar of power.

And then they'd do it again. And again. And again.

I have resolved myself to the fear I may never see the conservative movement recover in my lifetime.

1976 was a little disheartening too, but Carter at least ran on a unicorn of a balanced budget.

Part of the problem was not just W, but Norquist. BushI was horrible because he opted to raise taxes to pay for the savings and loan bailout ... but like other bailouts, that eventually paid for itself when the govt sold off the distressed loans it bought up. But then .... eventually the budget was theoretically balanced six years or so later.

Norquist didn't call out W for being a "liberal" when he cut taxes and expanded medicare (not to mention starting a war with no end)

The Norquist tax pledge was a hoax.

It demanded no new taxes, but it did NOT demand no new spending.

The rubes never caught onto that. And the GOP Congress, with the help of Bush, doubled the federal debt.

Just like the GOP Congress, with the help of Trump, has already doubled the federal deficit and is on track to bust Obama's debt record wide open.

 

[g5000]

Under Obama everyone on the right loved Bush and the left hated him. Now Bush is hated by the right and admired by the left.
When McCain/Romney ran against Obama they were supported by the right and despised by the left. Now those roles too have reversed.

I think it is a flawed personal trait when you don't have the courage to stick to your so called principles regardless of someone elses health condition. It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

No liberals thought that the right wing in the U.S. would turn as extreme as it has. The idea of a Trump presidency existed only in a comedy show named 'The Simpsons'. It is an utter absurdity.

The left hasn't changed much, true Republicans like the Bushs, McCain and Romney seem a whole lot more reasonable than the wack job that's our current President.

The fact that all the Trumpbots now despise the Bushs, McCain and Romney shows how far off the deep end they've gone. There is something seriously wrong with these people!

The left hasn't changed much, huh?


Both parties have changed....much. Good grief!

Nope, the 'left' is still mostly middle-of-the -road people who only lean a bit to the left. There has always been a minority of socialists and semi-socialists, but the only real difference is that they are no longer persecuted for speaking their mind.

Any change on the left is miniscule as compared to what's going on on the right. Holy Shit - Ronald Reagan would be considered a RINO nowadays!

Oh baloney, both sides have their extremes but the left is rapidly drifting to "democratic socialism".

Considering Medicare, Social Security and government assistance programs have been around for many, many years, it's apparent that therer have been democratic-socialist running this country for quite a long time.

It's only recently - due to the success of democratic-socialism throughout the world - that they've been open about their views.

It has been about 70 posts since I asked you people to point to a topic started by someone claiming to be a conservative attacking Trump for his RECORD SPENDING and for DOUBLING THE FEDERAL DEFICIT.

Well?!?

 

[BlueGin]

Under Obama everyone on the right loved Bush and the left hated him. Now Bush is hated by the right and admired by the left.
When McCain/Romney ran against Obama they were supported by the right and despised by the left. Now those roles too have reversed.

I think it is a flawed personal trait when you don't have the courage to stick to your so called principles regardless of someone elses health condition. It's hard to take a lot of you serious.

I never liked John McCain politically and I still like GWB and Bush Senior. But then I’m not a right winger so...

 

[Pumpkin Row]

You clearly didn't listen to the video, or my argument. I pointed out that the Constitution holds no power over the government, nor does it give the government any legitimacy if it did.

You also completely ignored that the electoral college exists, they're never under any obligation to listen to the people, they can easily just decide on any other choice. Even if they are bound by your decision, here are the chances of your vote being decisive by state:

Even ignoring all of the aforementioned, you completely neglected to explain what gives the government legitimacy, and how anyone consented to being ruled by these robbers, murderers, and kidnappers. Furthermore, there's evidence that presidents are promoted from within the government, regardless of anything claimed to be the political process: Five Star Trust Origins - FBI Redacted Report

Even ignoring all of the above, how do we know how many votes were placed on which thing? the government counts the votes they can fudge the numbers as much as they like.

I don’t watch RW propaganda videos

What gives our government legitimacy is something We the People call the Constitution
It created a more perfect union

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

And what gives the government legitimacy to own this land, and rule everything within it? Again, this point is already refuted in the video that you refuse to watch. Your fear of knowledge is exactly what will keep you licking the Government's jackboots until the day you die.

Afraid you don’t have a dog in the fight Lil Miss Anarchist

Yet you refuse to look at my evidence, and instead make 1-2 sentence responses which have already been debunked by my evidence. You actually probably already know you're wrong, which is why you won't go through any of my citations.

What gives our government legitimacy is We the People have elected them to represent us. We formed a more perfect union through a Constitution and until that Constitution is repealed, we will abide by it

An NO.......I do not watch propaganda videos from any side.
You are a big girl, if you have a point to make....make it

As I have already pointed out to you in previous posts, NONE of us signed that document, and even if that generation signed that document, it would only apply to that generation, which means they do not have the the legitimacy to rule us. If it's by voting that they are legitimized, then every agorist in the 'nation' would no longer be ruled by them, however if they choose not to pay taxes, they would still be kidnapped and held against their will. So, no, you have yet to provide an argument as to how they are legitimite rulers. This was also already covered in my citations, which you refused to read because you fear knowledge. Get out of your box and educate yourself, you ignorant, condescending fool.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

I don’t watch RW propaganda videos

What gives our government legitimacy is something We the People call the Constitution
It created a more perfect union

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

She's probably near 50 years younger than you and making you look like a chump.

Cease trying to be condescending ya old ass

In spite of her flowery rhetoric she still comes off as a spoiled rich kid

Only spoiled rich kids are stupid enough to be anarchists!

I see we have yet another person who is preferring to throw around adhominems instead of attacking the argument. The best you can come up with is calling me names for questioning the official narrative. How about addressing any single one of my citations or refuting any part of my argument instead?

 

[rightwinger]

I don’t watch RW propaganda videos

What gives our government legitimacy is something We the People call the Constitution
It created a more perfect union

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

And what gives the government legitimacy to own this land, and rule everything within it? Again, this point is already refuted in the video that you refuse to watch. Your fear of knowledge is exactly what will keep you licking the Government's jackboots until the day you die.

Afraid you don’t have a dog in the fight Lil Miss Anarchist

Yet you refuse to look at my evidence, and instead make 1-2 sentence responses which have already been debunked by my evidence. You actually probably already know you're wrong, which is why you won't go through any of my citations.

What gives our government legitimacy is We the People have elected them to represent us. We formed a more perfect union through a Constitution and until that Constitution is repealed, we will abide by it

An NO.......I do not watch propaganda videos from any side.
You are a big girl, if you have a point to make....make it

As I have already pointed out to you in previous posts, NONE of us signed that document, and even if that generation signed that document, it would only apply to that generation, which means they do not have the the legitimacy to rule us. If it's by voting that they are legitimized, then every agorist in the 'nation' would no longer be ruled by them, however if they choose not to pay taxes, they would still be kidnapped and held against their will. So, no, you have yet to provide an argument as to how they are legitimite rulers. This was also already covered in my citations, which you refused to read because you fear knowledge. Get out of your box and educate yourself, you ignorant, condescending fool.

As a child anarchist, you are free to disavow everything in the Constitution. That leaves you two options
You can gather your anarchist friends and overthrow our government and replace it with your own twisted version

You can leave the US and find yourself an anarchist haven. May I suggest Somalia?

 

[rightwinger]

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

She's probably near 50 years younger than you and making you look like a chump.

Cease trying to be condescending ya old ass

In spite of her flowery rhetoric she still comes off as a spoiled rich kid

Only spoiled rich kids are stupid enough to be anarchists!

I see we have yet another person who is preferring to throw around adhominems instead of attacking the argument. The best you can come up with is calling me names for questioning the official narrative. How about addressing any single one of my citations or refuting any part of my argument instead?

So fill us in on how you developed your anarchist leaning?


Let me guess..........Homeschool!

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I read about half of the thread. I made it on a lunch break but didnt have time to keep up. If you quoted me and I didn't respond that is why. Long day and little interest in reading the rest. Interesting responses in the first few pages however

 

[Pumpkin Row]

"RW propaganda" pfffthahaha. I'm an Anarchist, the Rightwingers support the state, just like you do. It's not propaganda, it explains why the state is illigitimate by explaining objective facts. If you're not going to look through my evidence, you can't refute my point, so you're essentially just here to parrot your false narrative.

Did you sign the Constitution to consent being ruled? No, you didn't, and neither did anyone else besides the people who declared that they have the right to rule us. So, no, we the people did not give them legitimacy, and that's something explained in that video which you refuse to watch.

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

And what gives the government legitimacy to own this land, and rule everything within it? Again, this point is already refuted in the video that you refuse to watch. Your fear of knowledge is exactly what will keep you licking the Government's jackboots until the day you die.

Afraid you don’t have a dog in the fight Lil Miss Anarchist

Yet you refuse to look at my evidence, and instead make 1-2 sentence responses which have already been debunked by my evidence. You actually probably already know you're wrong, which is why you won't go through any of my citations.

What gives our government legitimacy is We the People have elected them to represent us. We formed a more perfect union through a Constitution and until that Constitution is repealed, we will abide by it

An NO.......I do not watch propaganda videos from any side.
You are a big girl, if you have a point to make....make it

As I have already pointed out to you in previous posts, NONE of us signed that document, and even if that generation signed that document, it would only apply to that generation, which means they do not have the the legitimacy to rule us. If it's by voting that they are legitimized, then every agorist in the 'nation' would no longer be ruled by them, however if they choose not to pay taxes, they would still be kidnapped and held against their will. So, no, you have yet to provide an argument as to how they are legitimite rulers. This was also already covered in my citations, which you refused to read because you fear knowledge. Get out of your box and educate yourself, you ignorant, condescending fool.

As a child anarchist, you are free to disavow everything in the Constitution. That leaves you two options
You can gather your anarchist friends and overthrow our government and replace it with your own twisted version

You can leave the US and find yourself an anarchist haven. May I suggest Somalia?

Telling me to leave is only proof that despite your arguments being thoroughly debunked, you still have learned nothing, and still can't come up with any arguments for the legitimacy of the state. Not only this, but only very specific kinds of Anarchists, and people who consider themselves Anarchists despite just advocating for a different state, advocate for violent revolution. The government will be innovated out of existence or will be driven out of the economy through counter-economics whether you like it or not. All states are bound to collapse:

Somalia is ruled by multiple warring states, you only consider them Anarchist for the following reasons:

1: You're incapable of saying anything that the official narrative has not signaled to you.
2: You're unfathomably ignorant and refuse to educate yourself.

 

[rightwinger]

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

And what gives the government legitimacy to own this land, and rule everything within it? Again, this point is already refuted in the video that you refuse to watch. Your fear of knowledge is exactly what will keep you licking the Government's jackboots until the day you die.

Afraid you don’t have a dog in the fight Lil Miss Anarchist

Yet you refuse to look at my evidence, and instead make 1-2 sentence responses which have already been debunked by my evidence. You actually probably already know you're wrong, which is why you won't go through any of my citations.

What gives our government legitimacy is We the People have elected them to represent us. We formed a more perfect union through a Constitution and until that Constitution is repealed, we will abide by it

An NO.......I do not watch propaganda videos from any side.
You are a big girl, if you have a point to make....make it

As I have already pointed out to you in previous posts, NONE of us signed that document, and even if that generation signed that document, it would only apply to that generation, which means they do not have the the legitimacy to rule us. If it's by voting that they are legitimized, then every agorist in the 'nation' would no longer be ruled by them, however if they choose not to pay taxes, they would still be kidnapped and held against their will. So, no, you have yet to provide an argument as to how they are legitimite rulers. This was also already covered in my citations, which you refused to read because you fear knowledge. Get out of your box and educate yourself, you ignorant, condescending fool.

As a child anarchist, you are free to disavow everything in the Constitution. That leaves you two options
You can gather your anarchist friends and overthrow our government and replace it with your own twisted version

You can leave the US and find yourself an anarchist haven. May I suggest Somalia?

Telling me to leave is only proof that despite your arguments being thoroughly debunked, you still have learned nothing, and still can't come up with any arguments for the legitimacy of the state. Not only this, but only very specific kinds of Anarchists, and people who consider themselves Anarchists despite just advocating for a different state, advocate for violent revolution. The government will be innovated out of existence or will be driven out of the economy through counter-economics whether you like it or not. All states are bound to collapse:

Somalia is ruled by multiple warring states, you only consider them Anarchist for the following reasons:

1: You're incapable of saying anything that the official narrative has not signaled to you.
2: You're unfathomably ignorant and refuse to educate yourself.

Face it Punk’n..... You are an anchor baby entitled to all the rights and privileges of citizenship. Signing the constitution is not required
But I got good news for you anarchy girl. As a citizen, you have the right to petition government, elect fellow anarchists and change that constitution you hate so much

 

[Pumpkin Row]

You consent to being ruled by the Constitution with your feet

You don’t like our system of government, get mommy and daddy to give you money and move to the anarchist country if your choice

Better yet, get a job

She's probably near 50 years younger than you and making you look like a chump.

Cease trying to be condescending ya old ass

In spite of her flowery rhetoric she still comes off as a spoiled rich kid

Only spoiled rich kids are stupid enough to be anarchists!

I see we have yet another person who is preferring to throw around adhominems instead of attacking the argument. The best you can come up with is calling me names for questioning the official narrative. How about addressing any single one of my citations or refuting any part of my argument instead?

So fill us in on how you developed your anarchist leaning?


Let me guess..........Homeschool!

By realizing that Rightists and Leftists both tend towards the same results and only disagree when it's the other party advocating for a specific idea. I also discovered that Conservative support of Trump was a result of hatred of the Establishment, and that the Establishment is a natural part of any State, due to the State beig just as subject to corruption as any other office or organization.

I further discovered that I could no longer identify with any position due to those positions being subject to what ruler was in government. I tried to identify with Conservatives, however their support for further Regulation simply because Donald Trump was the one doing it drove me away. Further, it was the fact that Tom Horn attacked me for questioning Trump, as I would any other individual. I refuse to believe that any one individual person or idea is infallible.

I was also shown that there is not, and has never been, any opposition to the Establishment in politics, and there never will be. Project Mockingbird has never been mentioned by any politician, and Regulation has been constant and unending since they first began(Check the Federal Registry, business as usual).

During this time, when I could not decide what ideology fit me best, I discovered a group of individual Youtubers, who explained their stances consistently, and remained consistent through all discussions, unlike the political parties we are accustomed to. This group as critical of the State, as I have always been, and showed me the works of Lysander Spooner and Rothbard, and everything suddenly made sense. There IS no small government, there HAS NEVER BEEN small government. The growth cannot be controlled, because the state has no obligation to us, it only seeks to further the existence of government.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

And what gives the government legitimacy to own this land, and rule everything within it? Again, this point is already refuted in the video that you refuse to watch. Your fear of knowledge is exactly what will keep you licking the Government's jackboots until the day you die.

Yet you refuse to look at my evidence, and instead make 1-2 sentence responses which have already been debunked by my evidence. You actually probably already know you're wrong, which is why you won't go through any of my citations.

What gives our government legitimacy is We the People have elected them to represent us. We formed a more perfect union through a Constitution and until that Constitution is repealed, we will abide by it

An NO.......I do not watch propaganda videos from any side.
You are a big girl, if you have a point to make....make it

As I have already pointed out to you in previous posts, NONE of us signed that document, and even if that generation signed that document, it would only apply to that generation, which means they do not have the the legitimacy to rule us. If it's by voting that they are legitimized, then every agorist in the 'nation' would no longer be ruled by them, however if they choose not to pay taxes, they would still be kidnapped and held against their will. So, no, you have yet to provide an argument as to how they are legitimite rulers. This was also already covered in my citations, which you refused to read because you fear knowledge. Get out of your box and educate yourself, you ignorant, condescending fool.

As a child anarchist, you are free to disavow everything in the Constitution. That leaves you two options
You can gather your anarchist friends and overthrow our government and replace it with your own twisted version

You can leave the US and find yourself an anarchist haven. May I suggest Somalia?

Telling me to leave is only proof that despite your arguments being thoroughly debunked, you still have learned nothing, and still can't come up with any arguments for the legitimacy of the state. Not only this, but only very specific kinds of Anarchists, and people who consider themselves Anarchists despite just advocating for a different state, advocate for violent revolution. The government will be innovated out of existence or will be driven out of the economy through counter-economics whether you like it or not. All states are bound to collapse:

Somalia is ruled by multiple warring states, you only consider them Anarchist for the following reasons:

1: You're incapable of saying anything that the official narrative has not signaled to you.
2: You're unfathomably ignorant and refuse to educate yourself.

Face it Punk’n..... You are an anchor baby entitled to all the rights and privileges of citizenship. Signing the constitution is not required
But I got good news for you anarchy girl. As a citizen, you have the right to petition government, elect fellow anarchists and change that constitution you hate so much

The way that anyone is brought into any binding agreement is through signature or personal mark. Requiring no mark simply means that anyone can wave any piece of paper at you and claim that you agreed to it. This is, of course, also not an argument for legitimacy of the state.

I'd also like to point out that the "rights and privileges" here are violated just as often as any other State. Since the Supreme Court, headed by John Marshall, decided that "commerce clause" existed despite not actually existing, and that everything was commerce, all rights were subject to regulation, and the Constitution may as well have no longer existed. The Constitution is not only NOT a binding document due to lack of signature, mark, and consent of the people which the State claims to rule, but the government does not uphold it even if it was.

By your logic, I can declare myself "Government" and you'd be forced to do anything I say, for fear of one of my hired thugs putting a bullet in your head, in which case the Mob and the Mafia are both Governments. I'd also like to point out that such practice is coercion.

As I pointed out earlier, even if this were a true democracy, the chance of your vote mattering s below 10% in most state, AND since that's not the case, what we want does not matter, since the Electoral college ultimately decides who wins elections. On top of that, the document which I cited earlier(That you chose not to read, because it doesn't support your narrative) mentions that government arbitrators are chosen, not elected. Your response to my previous posts goes to show that you're ignoring my points because you can't refute them.